Sweden is socialist with far better living standards than 99% of Europe let alone the world, and no African country has been communist or truly capitalist.
"The strongest argument for socialism is that it sounds good. The strongest argument against socialism is that it doesn't work. But those who live by words will always have a soft spot in their hearts for socialism because it sounds so good." - Thomas Sowell
Socialism is where a single political party takes over a society and socializes it, confiscating personal property and enslaving everyone under the rule of a political party that in turn is under the thumb of an elite few elites that rule the country. Socialism is an entirely top-down system and requires repression of the disarmed and often brainwashed populace in order to stay in power.
No Sowell just defines Socialism like he always has when government does things. He was the one who was thinking and believing the US Republican Senator Joe McCarthy lies that the US Government was coming under Communist Control. This is why Sowell the Marxist wanted a job at the US Labor Dept and discovered that his professors had played him like a fiddle.
I was talking to a gentleman from Sudan, and he asked where the American Blacks would be now living if their ancestors hadn't been sold into slavery. He further iterated that they should be grateful for the sacrifices their ancestors made in order for them to have the great life they are now living. I thanked him for his wisdom.
@@robfromvan What do you know? How do you know what the people wanted and how they lived? It is the height of arrogance to believe what we know nothing about.
@@curtisbryce5096slavery is generally regarded as horrible, but you’re right, I wasn’t there and wasn’t enslaved and so don’t have first-hand experience.
There's a running Joke at least Rhodesia could keep the lights on had a vibrant tourist economy. And Rhodesia had the best military in Africa at the time. Well South Africa was pretty good too.
North American and Western liberals like to compare other cultures to themselves and assume everybody on Earth thinks like them. Racists in America and Europe do not take into consideration that African tribal affiliations have been competing against each other and in various states of conflict for thousands of years since the beginning of humanity since humanity originated in Africa. African ethnic groups unless they are related tend to be some of the most genetically different on Earth. These cultures did not mix for thousands of years. This is part of why African tribes are still fighting to this day. South Africa is a good example of a place where the old tribes are still fighting against each other for political power while their national infrastructure crumbles under socialism.
To further add to this, look at Botswana and Namibia, their neighbors. Both have less land and resources but better economically and politically because their leadership refused to abandon the good socioeconomic, political and cultural frameworks left by the Europeans after colonialism ended.
As a Nigerian, I absolutely agree with this video. In Africa, during the decolonization of the 50s, 60s and 70s, many of our countries began to abandon the socioeconomic and political frameworks (like capitalism, liberalism,and democracy) the Europeans left us. This was partly due to many African leaders being Marxist educated and some underlying resentment for colonialism. Unfortunately, it had the adverse effect of destroying economic growth and development in many countries for decades and created instability and loss of life via wars etc. This trend only started reversing when democracy and liberalism began to return to Africa. An example is my country, where after decades of military rule and economic mismanagement via control-economy, we returned to democracy in 99 and our President, Obasanjo, liberalized our economy and we experienced much of our best growth and development from 2000 to 2015. Very few countries were exceptions like Botswana where Seretse Khama wisely embraced and maintained and continued the policies the British left him and today, Botswana is one of the few economically and politically stable countries here.
Tanzania isn't Nigeria. Sowell is talking nonsense on this particular topic. Tanzania in the past and right now is one of the best African countries to live. As an East African with relatives all over East Africa I know this first hand.
@@mrt445 Tanzania is doing great now but that is largely because they wisely abandoned the Ujamaa socialism and authoritarianism of Julius Nyerere once it failed miserably. Julius Nyerere had good intentions but was sadly misguided by western Marxism and tried to use socialism and later authoritarianism to " improve" Tanzania and it failed. He could have followed the example of Seretse Khama of Botswana who didn't abandon democracy and capitalism and liberalism for his country after colonialism. That helped Botswana develop and stabilize and improve compared to many African countries post-colonialism 😕
@@orboakin8074 Bro, Tanzania has always been stable, and many aspects of "socialism" still remain that's why tribalism and religious intolerance has never been an issue in Tanzania. Secondly when countries adopt socialism it's not the same as other socialist countries. Sweden is socialist as well and has one of the best living standards on earth. The issue with Africa is corruption mainly, not socialism or capitalism. Sorrell doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Tanzania. Tanzania is not as f'd up as Nigeria, you're getting both countries confused.
@@mrt445 Friend, socialism a d social welfare are not the same thing. Sweden is not socialist. Even their head of state had to tell Americans to stop calling his country socialist. If your country has private property ownership and laws to protect said ownership, then you are not socialist. Also, I agree. Corruption is a big problem for many of our countries in Africa but socialism helped make it worse by enabling more government embezzlement compared to capitalism that at least encourages private ownership, individual rights, and wealth creation for more people. There is still corruption in capitalism but it is reduced and improves Africa. Compare Kenya and Tanzania today to Zimbabwe.
My black neighbor recently reminded me that if it weren’t for slavery bringing his ancestors to America he would be stuck in the chaos socialism and starvation of Africa today
Most People incorrectly thinks "Nazis" were right wing, but Nazis were Leftwing. their name says so "National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party" Just because Nazis fought against the Communist, don't make them right wing. Communist were "International Socialist"
@@FerdarPleaseSubscribe Communism is Democracy, didn't you know? Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam etc are all democracies. you think Democracy is some how special?
Left vs right are convenient socio-economic labels, and mean different things when applied to social or economic characterization. Liberal / Conservative Communist / Capitalist
Some people are easily fooled by what a person or political party calls itself. The NAZIs were a right wing political party, it worked in the interests of capitalists and capitalism. Did the Nazis remove capitalism? No. Did the Nazis empower the working class? No. Did the Nazis smash workers organisations and political parties? Yes Socialists stand for workers of the world unite. Did the Nazis stand for workers of the world unite? No, they were supremacists violently opposed to workers of other countries. Socialists are internationalists, Nazis are nationalist. Objectively all the actions of the Nazis are right wing, to judge them by their name is, sorry to be blunt, is absolutely ridiculous. To call the Nazis left wing is a tired old right wing argument that ignores all the actions of the Nazis. Every new political/economic system is built on the highest gains of the previous system, capitalisms highest achievements was to build a global economic system, therefore Socialism can only be built as an international system. Hope this gives you a better understanding of why the Nazis are right wing. Try reading the WSWS site for a clear political analysis and program for the working class.
When regional banks dispense small pockets of credit to mom and pop farmers and manufacturers, regional supply and demand determines the price of credit, goods and services. This brand of decentralization proves to build a robust working class private sector that enjoys surplus.
Theories always sound good on paper, but when the extraneous details are factored into the mix, the erosion begins. The longer that the policies are in place, the plan eventually becomes tainted and the system falls apart!
Africa is an interesting continent to study. They have clans, tribes, ethnicities, religon s, governments and races. And the different countries don’t seem to work together. The Chinese seem to build all the infrastructure , and there are constant conflicts. Africa seems in constant chaos.
The irony is Tanzania has always been more stable and Democratic than any African country. Adopting socialist ideals is the reason why Tanzania is less tribalistic than any other East African country, United under 1 officially African language as their main language.... So it's funny that you brought up tribalism in other countries when it's Tanzania being discussed. The Chinese build the infrastructure pretty much everywhere these days, even in Europe, all over Asia and South America. Sowell talks nonsense half the time but people try to blindly believe everything he says.
Your assessment is as prejudiced as your stupidity. You speak about the entire continent as if every one of the 54 countries has experienced civil war, political instability, economic crises
Socialism would still exist and many of the ideas associated with Karl Marx would still exist, but the Soviet Union did much to organize socialism and outcompete other versions of socialism. What Karl Marx did was travelled to country to country and studied how to tear them down to create his idea of communist utopia. The Soviet Union might never have existed without Karl Marx. Communist factions across Europe backed by the Soviet Union, which was having their industrial revolution and economic rise during the 1930's Great Depression, would never have been as organized as they were. The Spanish Civil War might not have happened and the Nazi's might never have risen to power. The Cold War might never have happened. European decolonization might not have resulted in so many wars between nations and civil wars because the Soviet Union was destabilizing countries and backing various pro-Marxist guerilla groups and any country that would buy Soviet weaponry. China would have transitioned into a republic under democratic rule rather than under the rule of a single socialist party after WWII without the Soviet Union.
Thomas Sowell has an understanding of the English language.. .......unlike the character who constructed the thumbnail. "How socialism failed them so badly". Adverb,....not adjective. ffs
Don't tell me Africa's problems all goes back to colonialism. Poland was occupied by foreign powers for centuries. It got turned into market economy less than 50 years ago,and it's one of the strongest economies in Europe, now. It doesn't even have anywhere near the reserves of natural resources that most African countries have.
Having actually lived and attained adulthood in Africa, there is virtually no African country that is socialist or communist in practice. Just wearing a revolutionary uniform and spouting Marxist slogans a socialist or communist does not make.
A nation can be richly endowed with an abundance of natural resources, yet that country will stay poor because of unwise and greedy leadership. How many African nations are self sustaining (without foreign aid)? How many African can sustain a working infrastructure (water, power, highways, etc..) without western aid. How many nations on the African continent can export products, manufacturing technology, or marketable goods without foreign influence? How many are still slave to non African imports?
It is just about "Socialism" any country can drop that model and chart a new course. The issue I think (for Africans) is to evolve from their tribal mindset to a national mindset and Nkrumah and Nyerere did remarkably well in that aspect. On the other hand, the UK, Mr Sowell loves, did quite the opposite in Nigeria. The politics of tribalism and religion (which has destroyed Nigeria) as well as the genocide named the "Biafran war" (which was covered up by the Soviets and British) are a hangover of colonial policies. In fact, armed Fulani militancy and terrorism; ISWAP, Boko Haram and the perpetual fragility of Nigeria (which is one reason it may never evolve truly as a nation) are reflections of British colonial heritage in Nigeria. In many respects, what Nkrumah and Nyerere did was to work on that first. This is one reason both Ghana and Tanzania are relatively stable.
I hope everyone was paying attention to the part about Ghana's debt canceling out their gdp...because America is coming ever so close to that breaking point.
Socialism has proven historically to be a terrible wealth generator. For example collective farmers who also have a plot of their own land, only want to work their own plot. It has happened every time throughout history. If there is already wealth, socialism will distribute that wealth a lot more equitably, but there will be a significant drop off in production as a result. Human nature. The best system to grow economies is: Foreign capital investment Capitalism A government that is not corrupt and will honestly and equitably distribute the wealth generated by capital to the general population. It's a big ask to get an honest government as pretty much every government on the planet is steeped in corruption - ergo, the state of the planet at the moment. Lee Kuan Yew, former prime minister of Singapore, is the best example of an honest government that raised foreign capital and distributed it equitably to the people. He took Singapore from the poorest nation on earth to the richest. It can be done and Singapore is the road map.
Under Nyerere, Tanzania was constantly in decline. I regularly travel to Tz from Kenya and the difference in freedom, especially in speech is staggering. Property rights in Tz are severely restricted and starting businesses is difficult. Unfortunately, Kenya is headed to an anti-business environment under Ruto as well.
@@davedimitrov It wasn't in decline under Nyerere and Tanzania has always been more stable and Democratic than Kenya and Uganda. Socialism is the reason why Tanzania is less tribalistic than any other East African country, United under 1 officially African language as their main language.
You People were to greedy. You'll adopted Socialism than Capitalism. Look at India, Nehru did to India 🇮🇳 and Nkrumah to Ghana 🇬🇭 and Castro to Cuba 🇨🇺
Say what you will but Africans did so MUCH better under colonial rule! Look what happening in S. Africa! They used to be rich then Mandela took over and its been downhill ever since!
Keep natives illiterate for generations then suddenly expect them to formalize a system is just peak disney style dreams of westerners 😂 then on top of that mock them if they fail or demonize them if they suceed ( China)😂😂
No they didn't. They were packed like sardines in those native villages while all the farms and wealth was acquired by the settlers. Had they not fought for independence Africa would just be another Australia where whites have taken over and natives have no say
Your title generalised Socialism in Africa, but this is not true. You gave the case of Tanzania but no other as Ghana was never socialist. Perhaps there were one or two other cases of experiment in quasi socilist practices like in Benin Republic for a brief period. They failed particularly when those copied in China fared no better. Other African countries which are more than ninety percent of all Afrcan countries were Capitalist. What made most African countries flounder was that past Colonial masters and new foreign powers disoriented the new inexperienced leaders, while tribal issues created disunity making it difficult to confront these foreign destabilising forces. They corrupted the leaders and make them to loose focus by setting them against each other. These problems are still there today and they are the reason Africa would never develop.
Were it not for Socialism Africans wouldn't have been able to mobilise themselves to fight for independence. Socialism was also necessary in the establishment of fundamental infrastructure. After that the countries should have then liberalised their economies
Socialism is when the working class takes power, not one country in Africa was socialist. Petty capitalist/nationalist leadership took power, implemented some forms of nationalisation or social programs, they picked this or that bits and pieces. All these countries were (and still are) capitalist economies. The capitalists /nationalist of Africa in their hurry to fill their pockets with cash, wreaked whole economies in Africa. For a real analysis of what socialism is try reading the WSWS site.
The reason why socialism never seems to work out is because it can't work out. Socialism gives people no incentive to work hard. People will do this when they work for themselves. If they have to work in situations where the results are all going to be equal and communal, they won't work hard. Socialism also concentrates power in the hands of a few people, or maybe just one person. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely. People get drunk on power and money. Socialism basically doesn't work because people are not saints.
It doesn’t matter what it is, only what it’s outcome is, which is always the same. Critics of socialism don’t care what The Communist Manifesto says, only what the outcome of those ideas produce when put into practice. In other words they are only interest in the empirical evidence of the outcome of those ideas in practice, not the ideology and theories as written on paper.
what? what difference would it have made? More people would have died, yes. But what economic difference would it have made, if workers had seized power instead of marxist intellectualls? @@ppazpppaz8618
You/we have to really stop using socialism and communism interchangeably. China and Northern European have been doing fine, as long as they didn't do mass immigration. And communism is something completely different, very intellectually lazy or dishonest to use the two interchangeably.
Oh wow... There were a lot of African nations or wannabe nations or nations that broke up that dabbled in socialism or went to war with socialist factions. I simply went down the list and tried not to be redundant. Namibia, National Revolutionary Council of Gambia, Liberia, People's Republic of Zanzibar, People's Republic of Zanzibar and Pemba, Zambia, Tunisia, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Senegal, Seychelles, Mauritania, Mali, Egypt, Chad, Djibouti, Mozambique, Madagascar, Ethiopia, Congo, Benin, Eritrea, Guyana, Algeria, Libya, Ghana, Guinea, Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Tanzania, Somalia, Angola, Rwanda, South Africa, and Rhodesia.
@@vaughnreedjr6592 Yes they were. And only Seychelles succeeded at being socialist in the face of US meddling. Interesting how they voluntarily abandoned it once 1991 rolled in.
In b4 ThAt wAsnT ReAl SOCIALISM!
Sweden is socialist with far better living standards than 99% of Europe let alone the world, and no African country has been communist or truly capitalist.
@@mrt445 communism is a system where there isnt a state, class, or currency. Capitalism is a system where the capitalists own the means of production
@@FerdarPleaseSubscribe no one said anything about "communism".
Just more of the Sowell theory that Socialism is when government does stuff. Same as when he though the US Labor dept was under Communist control.
@@mrt445Except... it's not.
"The strongest argument for socialism is that it sounds good. The strongest argument against socialism is that it doesn't work. But those who live by words will always have a soft spot in their hearts for socialism because it sounds so good."
- Thomas Sowell
if the leaders dont know what they're doing or see their role as one of interference for no reason will result in failure and corruption
Couldn’t have said it better. Cheers
Do you know the mean of socialism?
Socialism is where a single political party takes over a society and socializes it, confiscating personal property and enslaving everyone under the rule of a political party that in turn is under the thumb of an elite few elites that rule the country. Socialism is an entirely top-down system and requires repression of the disarmed and often brainwashed populace in order to stay in power.
No Sowell just defines Socialism like he always has when government does things. He was the one who was thinking and believing the US Republican Senator Joe McCarthy lies that the US Government was coming under Communist Control. This is why Sowell the Marxist wanted a job at the US Labor Dept and discovered that his professors had played him like a fiddle.
I was talking to a gentleman from Sudan, and he asked where the American Blacks would be now living if their ancestors hadn't been sold into slavery. He further iterated that they should be grateful for the sacrifices their ancestors made in order for them to have the great life they are now living. I thanked him for his wisdom.
Black american still in bad shape in America.
Unfortunately it was an extremely big sacrifice 😢
@@robfromvan What do you know? How do you know what the people wanted and how they lived? It is the height of arrogance to believe what we know nothing about.
@@curtisbryce5096slavery is generally regarded as horrible, but you’re right, I wasn’t there and wasn’t enslaved and so don’t have first-hand experience.
I rather be dead then to Life as a Slave
I grew up in Rhodesia. We left Rhodesia 1980 when mugabe became president. We had no unemployment until Mr mugabe. The rest is history
There's a running Joke at least Rhodesia could keep the lights on had a vibrant tourist economy. And Rhodesia had the best military in Africa at the time. Well South Africa was pretty good too.
And how about the segregation?
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 It was on track to be ended and eventually happened.
North American and Western liberals like to compare other cultures to themselves and assume everybody on Earth thinks like them. Racists in America and Europe do not take into consideration that African tribal affiliations have been competing against each other and in various states of conflict for thousands of years since the beginning of humanity since humanity originated in Africa. African ethnic groups unless they are related tend to be some of the most genetically different on Earth. These cultures did not mix for thousands of years. This is part of why African tribes are still fighting to this day. South Africa is a good example of a place where the old tribes are still fighting against each other for political power while their national infrastructure crumbles under socialism.
No such country called Rhodesia and Zimbabwe has never been socialist
You want a prime example of how bad Socialism failed in Africa. Look at how well Rhodesia was ran then look at Zimbabwe.
In 1995 he South Africa economy was stronger than China
And the same shit is happening in South África right now.
@jazztheglass6139 South Africa was better when it was a British Colony!
To further add to this, look at Botswana and Namibia, their neighbors. Both have less land and resources but better economically and politically because their leadership refused to abandon the good socioeconomic, political and cultural frameworks left by the Europeans after colonialism ended.
Their neighbor Botswana is also a wonderful success story thanks to a constitution, free market competition and private property rights
As a Nigerian, I absolutely agree with this video. In Africa, during the decolonization of the 50s, 60s and 70s, many of our countries began to abandon the socioeconomic and political frameworks (like capitalism, liberalism,and democracy) the Europeans left us. This was partly due to many African leaders being Marxist educated and some underlying resentment for colonialism. Unfortunately, it had the adverse effect of destroying economic growth and development in many countries for decades and created instability and loss of life via wars etc. This trend only started reversing when democracy and liberalism began to return to Africa. An example is my country, where after decades of military rule and economic mismanagement via control-economy, we returned to democracy in 99 and our President, Obasanjo, liberalized our economy and we experienced much of our best growth and development from 2000 to 2015.
Very few countries were exceptions like Botswana where Seretse Khama wisely embraced and maintained and continued the policies the British left him and today, Botswana is one of the few economically and politically stable countries here.
Thanks for the truth.
Tanzania isn't Nigeria. Sowell is talking nonsense on this particular topic. Tanzania in the past and right now is one of the best African countries to live. As an East African with relatives all over East Africa I know this first hand.
@@mrt445 Tanzania is doing great now but that is largely because they wisely abandoned the Ujamaa socialism and authoritarianism of Julius Nyerere once it failed miserably. Julius Nyerere had good intentions but was sadly misguided by western Marxism and tried to use socialism and later authoritarianism to " improve" Tanzania and it failed. He could have followed the example of Seretse Khama of Botswana who didn't abandon democracy and capitalism and liberalism for his country after colonialism. That helped Botswana develop and stabilize and improve compared to many African countries post-colonialism 😕
@@orboakin8074 Bro, Tanzania has always been stable, and many aspects of "socialism" still remain that's why tribalism and religious intolerance has never been an issue in Tanzania. Secondly when countries adopt socialism it's not the same as other socialist countries. Sweden is socialist as well and has one of the best living standards on earth. The issue with Africa is corruption mainly, not socialism or capitalism. Sorrell doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Tanzania.
Tanzania is not as f'd up as Nigeria, you're getting both countries confused.
@@mrt445 Friend, socialism a d social welfare are not the same thing. Sweden is not socialist. Even their head of state had to tell Americans to stop calling his country socialist. If your country has private property ownership and laws to protect said ownership, then you are not socialist. Also, I agree. Corruption is a big problem for many of our countries in Africa but socialism helped make it worse by enabling more government embezzlement compared to capitalism that at least encourages private ownership, individual rights, and wealth creation for more people. There is still corruption in capitalism but it is reduced and improves Africa. Compare Kenya and Tanzania today to Zimbabwe.
wherever there's poverty, socialism isn't too far away
and wherever there's money, capitalists are sitting on it
I see homeless in my american neighborhood .
@@vaughnreedjr6592 in your socialist democrat states
@@vaughnreedjr6592there will always be poverty. But socialism completely destroys the economy of any country where it is attempted
@@vaughnreedjr6592 Most of the homeless in the US are in "progressive" California and New York.
Dr.Thomas Sowell is an American treasure.
And a genius.
He is a world treasure.
My black neighbor recently reminded me that if it weren’t for slavery bringing his ancestors to America he would be stuck in the chaos socialism and starvation of Africa today
Very interesting video. Please make more of these.
Brilliant Mr Sowell
Most People incorrectly thinks "Nazis" were right wing, but Nazis were Leftwing.
their name says so "National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party"
Just because Nazis fought against the Communist, don't make them right wing.
Communist were "International Socialist"
North koreas full name is the democratic peoples republic of korea. So are they democratic now because they say they are?
@@FerdarPleaseSubscribe Communism is Democracy, didn't you know?
Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam etc are all democracies. you think Democracy is some how special?
They were basically to the right of socialism but to the extreme left of free market capitalism.
Left vs right are convenient socio-economic labels, and mean different things when applied to social or economic characterization.
Liberal / Conservative
Communist / Capitalist
Some people are easily fooled by what a person or political party calls itself.
The NAZIs were a right wing political party, it worked in the interests of capitalists and capitalism.
Did the Nazis remove capitalism? No.
Did the Nazis empower the working class? No.
Did the Nazis smash workers organisations and political parties? Yes
Socialists stand for workers of the world unite. Did the Nazis stand for workers of the world unite? No, they were supremacists violently opposed to workers of other countries.
Socialists are internationalists, Nazis are nationalist.
Objectively all the actions of the Nazis are right wing, to judge them by their name is, sorry to be blunt, is absolutely ridiculous.
To call the Nazis left wing is a tired old right wing argument that ignores all the actions of the Nazis.
Every new political/economic system is built on the highest gains of the previous system, capitalisms highest achievements was to build a global economic system, therefore Socialism can only be built as an international system.
Hope this gives you a better understanding of why the Nazis are right wing.
Try reading the WSWS site for a clear political analysis and program for the working class.
Thomas Sowell is one of the greatest economic historians and educators
When regional banks dispense small pockets of credit to mom and pop farmers and manufacturers, regional supply and demand determines the price of credit, goods and services. This brand of decentralization proves to build a robust working class private sector that enjoys surplus.
Jerry Rawlings sounds like a real hero of the nation who does not afraid to admit his mistake.
Theories always sound good on paper, but when the extraneous details are factored into the mix, the erosion begins. The longer that the policies are in place, the plan eventually becomes tainted and the system falls apart!
Socialism is about sharing the wealth and the gains from productive people.... in Africa...? That is the first problem.
Thanks!
Nicole Hannah Jones would not talk about Socialism African Nations;But she wants Socialism in the USA.
Africa is an interesting continent to study. They have clans, tribes, ethnicities, religon s, governments and races. And the different countries don’t seem to work together. The Chinese seem to build all the infrastructure , and there are constant conflicts. Africa seems in constant chaos.
The irony is Tanzania has always been more stable and Democratic than any African country. Adopting socialist ideals is the reason why Tanzania is less tribalistic than any other East African country, United under 1 officially African language as their main language.... So it's funny that you brought up tribalism in other countries when it's Tanzania being discussed.
The Chinese build the infrastructure pretty much everywhere these days, even in Europe, all over Asia and South America.
Sowell talks nonsense half the time but people try to blindly believe everything he says.
"But black and brown people! Don't they all think the same!?"
@@neilwinslow8374 what are brown people?... Of course they think alike that's why they all think like Sowell because he's also black.
Your assessment is as prejudiced as your stupidity. You speak about the entire continent as if every one of the 54 countries has experienced civil war, political instability, economic crises
There are more diffrent languages spoken on the African continent than in the entire rest of the world combined
if carl marx was never born...?
Socialism would still exist and many of the ideas associated with Karl Marx would still exist, but the Soviet Union did much to organize socialism and outcompete other versions of socialism. What Karl Marx did was travelled to country to country and studied how to tear them down to create his idea of communist utopia. The Soviet Union might never have existed without Karl Marx. Communist factions across Europe backed by the Soviet Union, which was having their industrial revolution and economic rise during the 1930's Great Depression, would never have been as organized as they were. The Spanish Civil War might not have happened and the Nazi's might never have risen to power. The Cold War might never have happened. European decolonization might not have resulted in so many wars between nations and civil wars because the Soviet Union was destabilizing countries and backing various pro-Marxist guerilla groups and any country that would buy Soviet weaponry. China would have transitioned into a republic under democratic rule rather than under the rule of a single socialist party after WWII without the Soviet Union.
I'm surprised TH-cam doesn't have a context note directing you to Socialist Party USA.
Never Say Die, I guess.
Thomas Sowell has an understanding of the English language.. .......unlike the character who constructed the thumbnail.
"How socialism failed them so badly".
Adverb,....not adjective.
ffs
Since were complaining about not understanding English.
Periods go inside the quotes. And wtf is ",...." supposed to be?
ffs.
Don't tell me Africa's problems all goes back to colonialism. Poland was occupied by foreign powers for centuries. It got turned into market economy less than 50 years ago,and it's one of the strongest economies in Europe, now. It doesn't even have anywhere near the reserves of natural resources that most African countries have.
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Having actually lived and attained adulthood in Africa, there is virtually no African country that is socialist or communist in practice. Just wearing a revolutionary uniform and spouting Marxist slogans a socialist or communist does not make.
A nation can be richly endowed with an abundance of natural resources, yet that country will stay poor because of unwise and greedy leadership. How many African nations are self sustaining (without foreign aid)? How many African can sustain a working infrastructure (water, power, highways, etc..) without western aid. How many nations on the African continent can export products, manufacturing technology, or marketable goods without foreign influence? How many are still slave to non African imports?
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It is just about "Socialism" any country can drop that model and chart a new course. The issue I think (for Africans) is to evolve from their tribal mindset to a national mindset and Nkrumah and Nyerere did remarkably well in that aspect. On the other hand, the UK, Mr Sowell loves, did quite the opposite in Nigeria.
The politics of tribalism and religion (which has destroyed Nigeria) as well as the genocide named the "Biafran war" (which was covered up by the Soviets and British) are a hangover of colonial policies. In fact, armed Fulani militancy and terrorism; ISWAP, Boko Haram and the perpetual fragility of Nigeria (which is one reason it may never evolve truly as a nation) are reflections of British colonial heritage in Nigeria.
In many respects, what Nkrumah and Nyerere did was to work on that first. This is one reason both Ghana and Tanzania are relatively stable.
It could be argued that Many of these African nations were far better off under European control.
I hope everyone was paying attention to the part about Ghana's debt canceling out their gdp...because America is coming ever so close to that breaking point.
Totally depends on what's socialized
AFRICA KEEP BUILDING THOSE CONCRET GULAGS!!
Beat me to it 😂
"young" and "semi-educated" - one and the same
@Ivory Coast reversal of fortune: Intellectuals eager to prove they can produce real things, using other people's money.
It's in America but everyone saids no it not look and see
Nkrumah set a bad precedent for post-colonial Africa.
haha US is barring Trump from running as well. African and US not so different after all. 😂😂😂
Socialism has proven historically to be a terrible wealth generator.
For example collective farmers who also have a plot of their own land, only want to work their own plot. It has happened every time throughout history.
If there is already wealth, socialism will distribute that wealth a lot more equitably, but there will be a significant drop off in production as a result. Human nature.
The best system to grow economies is:
Foreign capital investment
Capitalism
A government that is not corrupt and will honestly and equitably distribute the wealth generated by capital to the general population.
It's a big ask to get an honest government as pretty much every government on the planet is steeped in corruption - ergo, the state of the planet at the moment.
Lee Kuan Yew, former prime minister of Singapore, is the best example of an honest government that raised foreign capital and distributed it equitably to the people. He took Singapore from the poorest nation on earth to the richest.
It can be done and Singapore is the road map.
TO ARABS THEY ARE ABIDS! SO BE IT !!
And you say that as if you are superior to either.
So Ivory Coast and Ghana both failed ?
Tanzania is one of the safest and most democratic countries in Africa. I live in East Africa so I have no idea what Sorrell is talking about.
Tanzania only changed after Julius Nyere died, and the phasing out of his socialist ideology
Under Nyerere, Tanzania was constantly in decline. I regularly travel to Tz from Kenya and the difference in freedom, especially in speech is staggering. Property rights in Tz are severely restricted and starting businesses is difficult. Unfortunately, Kenya is headed to an anti-business environment under Ruto as well.
Ujamaa was an undeniable failure as well, with consequences still felt today.
Disinformation. Your comment, not Sowells video.
@@davedimitrov It wasn't in decline under Nyerere and Tanzania has always been more stable and Democratic than Kenya and Uganda. Socialism is the reason why Tanzania is less tribalistic than any other East African country, United under 1 officially African language as their main language.
15th, 4 December 2023
You People were to greedy. You'll adopted Socialism than Capitalism. Look at India, Nehru did to India 🇮🇳 and Nkrumah to Ghana 🇬🇭 and Castro to Cuba 🇨🇺
Do a show on how wall st and the military industrial complex and wall st vampires have bankrupted this empire in ruins
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Say what you will but Africans did so MUCH better under colonial rule! Look what happening in S. Africa! They used to be rich then Mandela took over and its been downhill ever since!
Keep natives illiterate for generations then suddenly expect them to formalize a system is just peak disney style dreams of westerners 😂 then on top of that mock them if they fail or demonize them if they suceed ( China)😂😂
No they didn't. They were packed like sardines in those native villages while all the farms and wealth was acquired by the settlers. Had they not fought for independence Africa would just be another Australia where whites have taken over and natives have no say
Your title generalised Socialism in Africa, but this is not true. You gave the case of Tanzania but no other as Ghana was never socialist. Perhaps there were one or two other cases of experiment in quasi socilist practices like in Benin Republic for a brief period. They failed particularly when those copied in China fared no better. Other African countries which are more than ninety percent of all Afrcan countries were Capitalist.
What made most African countries flounder was that past Colonial masters and new foreign powers disoriented the new inexperienced leaders, while tribal issues created disunity making it difficult to confront these foreign destabilising forces. They corrupted the leaders and make them to loose focus by setting them against each other.
These problems are still there today and they are the reason Africa would never develop.
Were it not for Socialism Africans wouldn't have been able to mobilise themselves to fight for independence. Socialism was also necessary in the establishment of fundamental infrastructure. After that the countries should have then liberalised their economies
NO MORE IMMIGRANTS FROM AFRICA EVER AGAIN, WE HAVE EHOUGH OF THEM IN USA !! AND THEY ARE A WEE BIT MORE CIVILIZED ! LOL
You are not making sense .
You still need people to work the farms, construction, build your roads and teach your kids because you are busy doing meth and trading stonks😅
Socialism is when the working class takes power, not one country in Africa was socialist.
Petty capitalist/nationalist leadership took power, implemented some forms of nationalisation or social programs, they picked this or that bits and pieces. All these countries were (and still are) capitalist economies.
The capitalists /nationalist of Africa in their hurry to fill their pockets with cash, wreaked whole economies in Africa. For a real analysis of what socialism is try reading the WSWS site.
The reason why socialism never seems to work out is because it can't work out.
Socialism gives people no incentive to work hard. People will do this when they work for themselves. If they have to work in situations where the results are all going to be equal and communal, they won't work hard.
Socialism also concentrates power in the hands of a few people, or maybe just one person. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely. People get drunk on power and money.
Socialism basically doesn't work because people are not saints.
It doesn’t matter what it is, only what it’s outcome is, which is always the same. Critics of socialism don’t care what The Communist Manifesto says, only what the outcome of those ideas produce when put into practice. In other words they are only interest in the empirical evidence of the outcome of those ideas in practice, not the ideology and theories as written on paper.
@@robfromvan
My main point is that none of the countries had a workers seizure of power and therefore were not ( on the path to) socialist.
what? what difference would it have made? More people would have died, yes. But what economic difference would it have made, if workers had seized power instead of marxist intellectualls? @@ppazpppaz8618
@@robfromvan
Exactly.
It succeeded in China and to a certain extent, the Soviet Union
Only after toning it down in favor of capitalism.
So why is kenya and uganda not a developed nations then? they were calpitalist😅
Uganda was never really capitalist. And Milton Obote, the man responsible for Idi Amin, was a socialist.
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Don't eat it all at once.
You/we have to really stop using socialism and communism interchangeably.
China and Northern European have been doing fine, as long as they didn't do mass immigration.
And communism is something completely different, very intellectually lazy or dishonest to use the two interchangeably.
Only after they toned down the socialism in favor of capitalism.
Not really as all communists are socialist.
No Africa country was socialist.
Name a country that was?
Oh wow... There were a lot of African nations or wannabe nations or nations that broke up that dabbled in socialism or went to war with socialist factions. I simply went down the list and tried not to be redundant.
Namibia, National Revolutionary Council of Gambia, Liberia, People's Republic of Zanzibar, People's Republic of Zanzibar and Pemba, Zambia, Tunisia, Sierra Leone, Sudan, Senegal, Seychelles, Mauritania, Mali, Egypt, Chad, Djibouti, Mozambique, Madagascar, Ethiopia, Congo, Benin, Eritrea, Guyana, Algeria, Libya, Ghana, Guinea, Equatorial Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Tanzania, Somalia, Angola, Rwanda, South Africa, and Rhodesia.
So why is it not developed 😂
You just making shit up now. None of this africa country ever being socialist. @@purplespeckledappleeater8738
@@vaughnreedjr6592
Yes they were. And only Seychelles succeeded at being socialist in the face of US meddling. Interesting how they voluntarily abandoned it once 1991 rolled in.
If we still lived in feudal times Sowell's official title would The Privy Counselor for the Kissing of White Backside.
HOW DID CAPITALISM HELP AFRICA ?
Africa barely ever had capitalism due to the bureaucracy socialism established.