UK Election 2019 - The Results Are In And...
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WHY DOES THE MOST UNBIASED AND OBJECTIVE COVERAGE OF THE UK ELECTIONS COME FROM A CAT WHO PLAYS MINECRAFT?!
Josh Wentzell honestly bro
true
Cats don't care about politics
Dominic Thompson lol
i guess Im asking the wrong place but does someone know a way to log back into an instagram account..?
I somehow forgot the password. I would love any help you can give me.
“The north has kind of rejected the policies of the red.” You think? 😂
🤣🤣
Sounds a lot like what happened in the US in 2016. Places around the Great Lakes (Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin) had a huge unexpected flip to more conservative voting.
@@theeasternspy266 bolševik?
@@turkoositerapsidi nah. Norwegian. I live in America now though.
@@theeasternspy266 Åk, lycka till dig 🙂 fron SUOMI (🇫🇮).
Petition to rename all the political parties after colours
The Green party has already started
Gives a whole new dimension to colorblindness ^^
2:35 Never seen the UK look like Maggie SImpson before the election...lol
Good idea. Everyone will think Labour's the communist party. Not like it isn't already
No. It would ignore all the history and context.
Despite a lot of city youth touting their working class status, their ideas of working class are drastically different than that of a middle-aged industrial town worker. I think Labour appealed too much to cities so much so that they lost what was considered "working class policies" in favour of metropolitan social activism policies. All in all this election was a mess.
This is exactly it... The "real" workers of the country couldn't care less about nationalised broadband or water, but many of the "real" working class DID vote brexit, and the majority of them are itching for it to be done. It's been a combination of successful smearing of the left, as well as the left being more and more out of touch with who their party was originally supposed to represent.
Kieran Piles Hey man! Totally agree with you. Im a Leftist from America and we have similar issues here. The Democrats have been moving away from traditional labor policies and towards SJW issues that do not appeal to industrial workers or folks who were in manufacturing. The 80s / 90s saw the collapse of the traditional industrial economies and The Left has yet to address the problems facing the working poor outside of cities.
If you have the time could you comment and elaborate on the failures of the Labour Party?
I think the rise of Conservatism in the West as more of a failure of The Left rather then a genuine shift towards the right. For example in the US 2016 election the vote for Trump was more of a protest vote rather than an ideological vote; mostly because Hillary was appalling to most small town working class people.
@@matyashale6768
So what do the "real" workers of the country want? What labor policies do they want?
Astoris now obviously i do not represent the entirety of the “real” workers, however I’m from a working class suburbain constituency myself. I did vote labour because my main tactic was to not have Johnson in power, and likewise many people who typically vote labour did the reverse to what I did; tactically voting conservative to not have Corbyn in power (there’s a stigma with voting for smaller parties like Brexit, green and LibDem as it’s seen as a wasted vote).
There’s so many ways that someone could unpack your question, but the easiest analysis comes from the main reason northern labour seats turned blue. Corbyn was smeared for not having a clear stance on Brexit, and indeed his stance conflicts his “respect the referendum result” view back in the 2017 snap election. Boris took this to his full advantage and constantly accused him of having no clear agenda, and the people began to believe him. Meanwhile, Boris’ impatient “get Brexit done” slogan (or words to that extent) really resonated with the “real” workers (as I’ve said, who largely voted Brexit particularly in the north). They want the process to be done, and some are becoming so impatient that Boris’ snappy Brexit process may seem like a breath of fresh air that these workers wanted, not Corbyn’s drawn out (yet democratic) process involving negotiations followed by a second referendum as to whether we agree with the negotiation (if not, we cease Brexit as a whole, which would have been illegal as the legal Brexit documents have been signed). In short, the workers want Brexit done, and a lot of workers believe that they can prosper and thrive again without the EU. (As I say I’m not a representative hah!)
Another reason could be how some have seen Corbyn’s promises as rather patronising. I think it was the leader of the Scottish Labour Party who said this, that offering free stuff like the internet can come across as a way of buying voters. Personally, I think nationalisation of rail should happen, but it would indeed take more than 5 years to de-privatise. I know this doesn’t answer your question as to what the workers want, but it certainly answers what they found unappealing... thus didn’t want.
Overall your question is the golden question that could have saved labour around 50 seats, but nobody knows, all we can get are people to speak up, and parties to deliver in an integral, and not playful, manner.
Astoris a load of things they want that is unsure about whether the Conservative party can deliver on are:
NHS to survive and not be privatised
More money put into the NHS
More money put into schools, and reduce the average class size
Minority rights (lgbt and racial as well as economic) to NOT be threatened
Secure state pensions
To stop the increasing age of retirement
There’s countless things... these are just what is off the top of my head. People wonder where they’d get the funding from, but I also wonder how the Tory’s got the funding when they flashed millions of pounds to the DUP during the hung parliament result of 2017, there’s clearly possibilities to reach these goals but evidently, these issues are now over 50% conservative responsibility
Spent too long fighting a referendum and eventually the people get so sick of it they just vote for it to end. What's it been, like 4 years now?
Well, more people voted for the 2nd referendum block...
@@anon3567 except that means nothing in our current system. Lib dems were too busy being the remain party that they split the vote with labour, greens, snp.
The deal would've ruined the country
@@spmiles98 That's not what I'm saying though. I'm just saying what you are saying is not reflected in the election result. The conservatives won because of fpp, not because the people supports their platform on brexit. Saying that that is the reason is disingenuous, since most people voted for remain parties and polling data shows that most people think voting "out" was a mistake and most people would vote "remain" if there was a referendum.
3 and a half it’s pissing me off now as it was in 2017 and 2018 and will be in 2020 and probably 2021 and 2022. Jk 2020 would’ve been 2024 at least if Corbyn got in
I guess the UK is a pregnant woman
Because it's got labour pains.
I'll see myself out.
Pining for the fjords 😆😆😆😆
Amazing.
Nah, look at a map it's a witch riding a pig
Or cos its going to birth an independent scotland
That won't happen
Labor lost when they forgot their target demographic wanted Brexit...
It's really sad because Corbyn in himself is actually anti EU, but his party demonstrably isn't, though they should be due to their supposed ideology. I'm a JC supporter, and he isn't perfect, but there was literally nothing he could do to appeal to the leave voters, which his opinion agrees with without his party turning against him. Its a really annoying situation, and all the blame goes on Jeremy. Perhaps rightly so, perhaps he should have stepped down, but whatever the case, Labour needs to get its shit together quickly.
Corbyn was forced to drive a swerving car, with broken brakes, i have no real grudge against Corbyn myself (mind you im not a Brit, but still part of you commonwealth of nations) my real problem with Brexit is the shear amount of dishonesty around it, and the fact it draws us from the real questions and problems, like Global Warming, China (Political Intervention in Hong Kong), or the problems that come from an increasingly Federalizing European Union. Im glad this saga that has overstayed it's welcome may soon have a conclusion...
Henrik Wallin and that part of how they lost their demographic as well.
@@captain-chair I agree. Besides, Boris practically won this election because of brexit and Labour's lack of conviction about it. Perhaps they will make a comeback once brexit is over. God I hope.
Seems to be a trend amongst the Left in The West to be out of touch with their base of supporters. Its really sad that the SJW / liberal / yuppy / city elites have hijacked traditional Left parties.
how did a minecraft channel turn into a politics channel
hexagonal maps are a natural progression from cubes i guess?
@@oxenford539 lol
Coal mining has been a contentious subject in British politics since the 70s.
@@oxenford539 @Tedted Fourteen, His style is uniquely suited for information-dense election results.
This is his 2nd channel lol
11:00 if the British empire was still a major power during the space race
Well, they do have sir Bronson and his Virgin intergalactic. At least they are already in the race, unlike most other nations.
My cousin in the UK told me the red party has truly become the red party if you know what I mean.
Many view them as anti-british.
Many of their mps are constantly on twitter ranting about white people/white culture. You can imagine what these people are like.
@Jamie Brennan you must be the only one
It was flat out brexit. A few other things might’ve hurt labour a bit, but labour lost its labour heartlands because the labour heartlands largely voted leave
Because far too many people are uneducated on the issues they vote for. I am from a very working-class area and have seen it all my life.
What do you mean uneducated?
@@brianbks02 General fact of life, more deprived areas like the north have much lower quality of education, and thus the people often aren't as well educated. Additionally, the lack of high skill jobs in many of those areas mean that a lot of them move to the cities where those jobs exist, which as you can see labour dominated.
@@brianbks02 I mean both uneducated on the issues they are voting on (ask the average voter about the EU and how it works with the UK, they don't have a clue) and in general.
I grew up in a poor working class place, a Labour heartland. The people I grew up with either did not care at school or were actually *proud* to fail. They didn't see the point in working hard at school as there were no jobs to get, or very low-skilled ones. They were just planning for a life on the dole.
Then those remaining jobs largely disappeared and all of a sudden those same people are competing with a global working population - many low-skilled jobs are not geographically bound. Having worked in SE Asia and seen how hard pretty much ALL students work compared to what I grew up with is night and day.
Then look at how both major parties have totally abandoned certain areas - the NE of England, parts of Wales, the SW of England, etc. Labour don't need to work for these regions as their vote was substantial and "guaranteed". The Tories didn't care about them as they were no-win seats.
Then came Brexit.
Add an abandoned, low skilled, non-educated population to the chance to rebel, added to the ongoing lies and xenophobia towards the EU for decades from the national media and here we are. People voted for Brexit thinking it was the root of all the evils against them, when in reality most of those evils were from Westminster and their own actions. Places like the NE of England and Wales get far more in funding from the EU than Westminster, but they don't see that. Nissan is the biggest employer in the NE and they don't see how they are risking that by voting leave. They see immigrants taking their jobs when in reality most of those immigrants they see are non-EU and the jobs have left anyway.
It was a perfect storm many years in the making and its going to have a devastating effect on the country for a very long time to come. There won't be a a UK in 5-10 years.
@@MichaelGGarry I'm university educated Geological Scientist, I voted Brexit. Calling People Unskilled and Uneducated is gross generalisation. I'm from Yorkshire and I couldn't be more happier about the result. We have been in Stagnancy for so long under labour finally something fresh has happened. The EU Should have stayed as the Economic Trade agreement and not evolved into the mess it has become-an extremely alienated and closed of circle that doesn't connect with the public at all. Brexit has to happen, it was democracy. If Brexit is not pursuit, then we might as well not have a democracy. Saying to people "we don't know why we voted" is extremely rude and causes only more division, especially doing generalizations. Xenophobia? Really? That's not just a Brexit voter thing you know? Labour also had absolutely ridiculous proposals this election that just came across as a Joke and honestly things that aren't important. Please don't bunch Brexit people as this idea of uneducated racists.
Literally just finished watching the other election video from 2 days ago... and this was uploaded seconds before I went back to the home screen :D
I think they are pronounced like Isles of Silly btw.
They Are Defiantly called that :)
How silly of them.
@@robinthebobin6537 I haven't the slightest of clues.
@@robinthebobin6537 It's because the Isles of Scilly are part of the St Ives constituency, all of the constituencies votes are counted in St Ives
@@robinthebobin6537 As far as I understand it, it's to do with population. In order to make it as fair as possible, there are population limits on constituencies, which is why the Scottish Highlands' constituencies are so big and London's are so small. The Isles of Scilly and the rest of the St Ives constituency obviously don't meet these population requirements and so are grouped together
All of Stoke is now blue which is honestly just banter Toycat
“Scottish Nationalist Party” - SNP stands for Scottish National Party.
Scotlands version of the NSDAP
Mark Johnson How can planning to rejoin the European Union be Nazi Ideology?
@@ewanlewis3919 they will use the eu to take over england;)
jochem van rens Loving your use of sarcasm
Common mistake! 'National' means it's the party of the country, the party of Scotland in the current UK political context. That's all
0:57 The Con-Uh Blue Party
"don't mention parties toy cat"
The big reason Labour does poorly in Scotland is tactical voting. People choose SNP because they are more likely to take Tory seats up here than Labour are these days.
On one hand, yes, on the other, independence.
Can you elaborate?? Ignorant American here. I figured the SNP was gaining support in reaction to Brexit and an overall desire for independence.
This is not true. Sure there are conservative-SNP marginals in northern and southern Scotland. In the rest of Scotland the conservatives had no chance of winning and people still preferred them to Labour.
@@hollin220 Basically traditionally (not sure with Jeremy Corbyn running the gaff) many folk in Scotland were Labour supporters. Some were conservative, and nationalists too. Since the SNP & Torys have the larger shares, Scottish labour supporters vote SNP to guarantee that they don't lo
se seats to the conservative party
James Hogg That same mentality / reasoning is why most Left Americans vote Democrat. We dont like the Dems most the time but we hate the Republicans ALL the time. My situation is frustrating and can sometimes feel undemocratic.
I wanna say that talking politics is a favorite of mine. Its been very enjoyable talking about it without the ugliness or name calling. Its been rough here in America the past 4 years. Thanks man
Scilly is actually pronounced "silly"
How scilly is that?!
Get outta here.
The Isles of the Blessed
Scilly beats out Sicily's Scilly pronunciation by a margin I would only describe as "Sicily"
@@Bulley Both Sicily and Scilly are pronounced exactly how they look imo. You could make an argument for Scilly being pronounced Skilly I suppose. But how else could one pronounce Sicily?
@@PiousMoltar idk I was just using it is a homonym for "sissily" in that since it's a similar name.
I've heard people somehow pronounce Sicily as "sickly" before if that matters at all.
It made sense to my just-got-home-from-a-long-shift brain. Not so much now.
Conservatives have no excuse to not deliver Brexit now. May and her cabinet was remainer, then the rump parliament delayed Brexit exposing the Parliament and the Establishment as Remainer in a Brexiteer Majority country. Now, that the majority of the country has been better represented, there's every reason to expect Brexit to be delivered before December 2020.
Krass Grass Honestly man its inevitable some sort of Brexit is going to happen. Between the referendum and this election its hard to argue that the majority of English voters are for Brexit.
And I say English on purpose as its pretty obvious Scotland wants to remain and N. Ireland and Wales are on the fence.
"Now, that the majority of the country has been better represented"
That's not true. Conservatives lost popular vote against parties that are against Johnsons Brexit politics.
The majority is not represented in a proper way.
British vote system is anti democratic as hell.
May they call it tradition. I call a repeated failure dumb.
Same with the referendum. You cant do such things without a quorum.
Otherwise you have the b**ls**t you had, especially in combination with the broken vote system.
All together you do things against majorities. And thats why there will be no "great" in Great Britain soon.
You ran against a wall by tradition with the slogan "its a mistake, but its our mistake and we are proud of".
@@teenriot-de "unless what I want wins it isn't fair"
@@sosogo4real "Conservatives lost popular vote"
That's a fact, no oppinion.
Unfair is when the loser wins.
sosogo
Popular vote is more democratic because you actually need a representation of the majority of the people to rule.
The other side of the spectrum might be my country The Netherlands, in which we have a small majority of 4 parties because of a shattered system.
But the Brittish aren’t able to do such a thing, too arrogant of their own ideas to even consider to work together. It’s why Brexit takes fucking 4 years.
Best thing is to blow it off and pretend like it never happend...but hey, you want it this badly, the EU has been prepared for like two years now. It’s the UK that will most likely crash and burn after Johnson’s deal.
love how you call it blue vs red
TYPHOONX10 probably do he doesn’t get demonitized.
Big Bird you can get demonetised by saying conservative or labour? Fuck off lmao
@@dry0campa155 wouldn't be surprising, this is youtube
This is better commentary than what I've watched in tv.
TV is trash, the whole lot of it
Thank you for explaining it in a way someone who's not from the UK can understand! I was curious about what's going on but being from the US I don't have a lot of knowledge about the background of everything. :)
Just to clarify Boris is not Trump and Boris doesnt even like trump
@@elliotsodergren2270 Thats why hes selling our NHS to him
@@sudthskap yeah alright mate we’ve heard it for decades now, it’s getting tiring
@@jamiengo2343 damn it's almost like I said it a year ago, when it was topical
@@sudthskap and the opinion which you voiced is a common one voiced even now across the Internet.
Another perfect example of why we should have a system of proportional representation for Westminister elections. Preferably PR-STV
Hmmm I've just had an interesting idea: Keep MP elections FPTP but replace the House of Lords with proportionally elected representatives.
@@stumbling Not a bad idea, to be fair. I would personally oppose on the grounds that I like having an unelected, weaker, supplemental chamber - and because the name wouldn't work anymore. But still, an idea worth discussing, and a new one, as far as I can tell.
[sic] then the House of Lords will no longer be subservient to the House of Commons and we could end up with gridlock like what is extremely common in America.
I’d argue for STV, as it is proportional (which is good), keeps local representation (which is very popular), eliminates the spoiler effect, allows people to rank candidates by preference and simple.
It’s what we use in the North of Ireland/ Northern Ireland for council, assembly and European elections, and if it’s seen as acceptable and fair in one of the most tense and polarised societies in the world, then it would work well in the UK.
The reason that will never happen is because of Churchillist influence on British politics. He was notoriously against any non-FPTP system.
Sudo Creme remain would have won!!
52%-47% (1 others. Independents)
R.I.P
Labour party
RIP The UK!
@@bignose140 Yup yup. Scotland's out and Ireland's going to unite. Good for them I say, leaving this shit show while they can.
Up the England
RULE BRITANNIA 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@colonelkk 'BRITANNIA' wont be a thing anymore
People have been calling this bad....
The Dutch Labour Party(PvdA) in the 2017 election was much and MUCH worse.
It went from 38 to 9 seats, out of 150. And the voter share went from 24.8% to 5.7%, it was a loss of almost 20%.
The Labour party is peanuts compared to this loss.
Redcar? More like bluecar now
I love how unpolitical you kept this video on politics
I love your Politcis videos man. So unbiased and knowledgeable. I also enjoy trying to guess which way you voted (pretty sure you're LD). Though one thing, Labour did not want to nationalise broadband, merely have it's own competition to push connectivity across the country.
Keep it up man.
JimmyMcLeod What sets apart the Lib Dems from Conservatives? The Lib Dems seem to be pro-business, libertarian-like, but for social justice. The Lib Dems remind me of moderate Republicans here in the US. Thanks man
@@hollin220 I would say that the Lib Dems are more like your Dems. However, frankly, they seem to sway left and right from election to election so its sometimes hard to grasp their intentions.
They generally claim to try to find a centre ground between labour and the tories
JimmyMcLeod thanks man. Ive been all over the comment section on this video because I love politics. Its been refreshing to be able to approach the subject without things getting ugly. Politics in the US is super toxic right now :(
hollin220 Liberal Democrats are more closer what the “new labour” party of Tony Blair was then anything else tbh.
Essential neoliberal (i.e low taxes, deregulation, free trade, free market, austerity etc.) economics mixed in with the social and cultural politics of the new left and also they are really globalist.
Simply put, they are neoliberal progressive internationalist.
He’s a Monster Raving Loony Party type of guy. Seems like a toycat position
Corbyn never said whether he wanted Brexit or try to stay in the EU. That probably hurt Labour most.
diane abbott will be a good labour leader, for a laugh
kyle watt I like Angela Rayner. Great rags to “riches” story. We dont have many legitimately working class people running for office hear in the US. Was exciting to read her Bio.
Wearing two left shoes is a funny story. I guess Ms Abbott is so dedicated to the left she refuses to compromise even with her footwear! 🤣
hollin220 Angela Rayner is horrific dude
Even though I'm far more left-wing than he is, I quite like Keir Starmer. He's well-spoken and intelligent. If he were elected and kept a decent amount of the progressive economic and green policies that Labour suggested this time, I'd be willing to back it.
@@PsilentMusicUK this aged well
@@JonerMFC It's too early for me to pass judgment. When the next manifesto is launched I'll have my answer. The deal breakers are the National Investment Bank, renationalization policies and some semblance of the Green New Deal.
If they don't pledge these things then it'll be the Greens for me come 2024.
just to correct u, it was the blue leader with the big glasses that actually negotiated peace.
Niall Foody Who also said prior to this election that you shouldn’t vote Blue
No he didn't.
Liam Yes, he did
The way “Leigh” was pronounced hurts me. It’s “lee” rather than “lay”.
Ah yes Santa's coming this Christmas in his Slee haha
Josh Ridgeon made me laugh because the town near me is called Leigh-on-Sea (Lee) and all my friends were really concerned
No
It's my middle name so yeah that one hurt
LD: Gains Votes in the South East
Also LD: Loses its only seat in the South East to the Conservatives
loses seat of leader in scotland
FPTP is an amazing system lol
LD: loses leaders seat to the Scottish Nazi Party
They only held north Norfolk because of Norman Lamb, when he resigned it instantly turned blue.
I witnessed it live. Was fucking hilarious watching them get vaporized from the universe 😂😂😂
A 1% gain of 1000000 is much bigger than a 100% gain of 10
“Second channel do care”
Wait that’s illegal
Nurses are already struggling. If you think the Tories aren't bad news you're absolutely deluded. Multiple members of the current cabinet want a privatised nhs.
Good for Northern Ireland
The tories will never implement a privatised NHS, it is a sure fire way to never get elected ever again.
Labour are hypocrites. .they did plenty to privitise the NHS ...only idiots fell for corbyns bulshit
Wow, your socialized health service couldn't handle a massive influx of immigrants, shocker...
@@TeslaHaxz any evidence that migrants are stretching the nhs? People who come to the UK as adults also have to pay national insurance whilst not sapping the nhs for money as children. There's plenty of money knocking around for the nhs, it just isn't being used. Learn before you comment.
I am a red (labour) voter normally but voted blue (conservative) which toycat has not stressed exactly how much of a big deal it is for us to switch votes, for me (and many I know) changed our votes mainly because of Brexit however although our red party said this was not the "Brexit election" for MOST of us in the former mining and industrial towns of the north all that did was reinforce the feeling that party had forgotten about us, personally it helped to make one of the hardest decisions in my life (I can't stress how much our areas hate the blues, it is similar to USA red/blue feelings) when the labour party started throwing unaffordable promises to us to try and win votes because they were behind in the polls...
In the metropolitan areas the influence of the EU has been mainly skilled immigrants helping the local economy and in areas like mine of course they too help the economy but the immigrants generally are unskilled and driving down wages of warehouse, driving, retail and construction (which I would argue is actually skilled) jobs, I thought I best explain why I would vote for just one reason, there are many more reasons to which at it's core is that I believe in 20-30 years there will be a very high level of automation/self-service that most unskilled jobs will not exist and universal basic income will become a reality funded by some kind of automation business tax but then I think we will be thankful of a shrinking population which can only be guaranteed through controlled borders, sorry Europe, I do love you but to avoid a madmax (joking....ish) style society we at that point will have to look after number 1. I have digressed I am sorry, as said a big decision for us dumb northerners.
Mate we have a net loss of 200K based on immigration to death rates.
@@quintessence2183 yes so when even when farming is automated we won't need as large population for society and larger populations will just be a burden, I hope I am wrong as I know it's very negative :)
@@chriswall27 If that were true, it would break capitalism. Immigration is a neccesary step in infinite economic growth and if the population stops growing, so too will the ecomomy. It's economics 101.
@@quintessence2183 Indeed you are right but that does not make my doomsday prophecy wrong! If you studied past economics 101 you would learn that most economists believe there will one day be something that replaces capitalism or that it will evolve into something else, what, who knows?
@@chriswall27 Yes, a mixed economy.
Its both a win for blue and a loss for red
I sometimes go back and watch the coverage of this election for… reasons…
This is so neutral and informative to the layman that it is honestly impressive. And it comes from a Minecraft TH-camr, kudos!
Edit: Hang on, I just realized this is an entire second channel. Wow…
This is why we need ranked choice voting watch cpg grey for more
Wild pear running 1 But it leads to less direct voting that nearly always ends up in coalitions of many parties which dilutes voters votes as many compromises would be made in order to form these coalitions of power; just look at European countries...
Everyone: *Nothing*
Right wing party: *wins an election*
Every Educational TH-camr: "CHANGE THE VOTING SYSTEM! IT'S NOT FAIR!"
I mean the timing is always suspect but it's not wrong. Although changing it wouldn't stop the cries either.
You would end up with a system that "feels" more fair but enjoy the permanent gridlock in parliament.
I love how toycat says the colour rather than the actual names of the parties.
You didn't talk about Wales!
No one does.
he's not David Attenborough
And that's why, sadly, Wales will also leave the union.
Because nobody can pronounce your party names...
Hey ignorant American here. My Moms family is Irish and my Dads is Scottish so I try to pay attention to politics there. Sadly, I dont know a thing about Welsh politics. I always assumed Labour and Plaid Cymru were the main parties. Would love to hear your opinions and any info about Welsh politics.
I was looking at the name of some of the districts in Wales. For Christ sake some of those names are insane!
Most of the grunt work for the Good Friday agreement was done by John Major. Blair took the credit for it.
I've heard this a few times in the comments, my bad if so!
Brexit lost labour the north. If they respected the result of the referendum the results would have been very different.
Vote toycat
Red would have probably done better if they had taken a solid stance for brexit. Corbyn used to be a euro-skeptic, and over this summer Labour were practically single handedly responsible for delaying brexit twice. The Labour heartlands were predominantly pro-brexit... that's almost all you need to know about why Labour got destroyed.
I don't feel the conservative campaign went well AT ALL... issues like changing the twitter name to mislead people, all the anti-labour stuff all just stinks of being under handed rather than standing by your own virtue. Lets just hope Bojo returns to the quirky, likable, go-getter that gained so much support. If he stays the meek, bumbling, interview dodging boris there will be people asking for blood!
Corbyn was boxed up to backing remain because of the strong Blairite cabal within the party pretty much.
Nuclear Nadal we have a similar cabal in the US Democratic party. They tend to support life-long members who are entrenched in the party, and are centrist to right-leaning. Thats how we got Hillary in 2016 and Jon Kerry back in 2004. Thats why you see so much support for Biden now in our election. He is safe, centrist, easy for the party insiders to control.
Whereas the base of support in the Dem party and Labour are experiencing a populist anti-establishment vibe.
I wonder what the solution or remedy is to combating the people who steer their parties and run the political machine?
That and the fact socialism and terrorism are not exactly welcome
Yeah, bj only marginally increased his vote share with his ridiculous antics. People just were pushed away by Labour’s brexit position and Corbyn’s bad image in the media.
It’s also true that the left are actually traditionally quite anti-EU. So for many it was a choice of brexit vs. a left wing econom8c programme, and not being that confident that Labour can pull it off they decided to go for brexit.
It’s a shame that Skinner went, that was foolish.
At least Boris is very pro-Australia. A lot of us would like to see a CANZUK trade and free-movement system started just like we in Australia have with New Zealand. It'd be great to have more Brits and Canadians here.a block of those four nations would have an incredible USD$7.7T economy and become a really major player in global politics.Anglo brothers, unite! :)
I think the idea that Corbyn's ideals were so unspeakably radical that he was unelectable is sort of ridiculous. Consider the fact that the founding of the NHS was overseen by Clement Attlee, a prime minister who doesn't get enough credit because he wasn't the "war hero" that Churchill was. Attlee also nationalised basically everything while he was in office. Thatcher didn't dare touch the NHS but the modern Conservative government have certainly started a process. And you can't sit back and watch it happen and claim that it isn't happening all at once and therefore it is not happening at all.
But maybe with the ageing population of the country, we'll never see a Labour government again. We'll only continue to see public services die. Bristol no longer has any public toilets, but that only affects the most vulnerable people so it doesn't matter.
Churchill was overrated
Good video as always, do you really not care about Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland? I find that interesting, I am a mongrel of these islands and actually Europe going back 3 generations lol :)
This was essentially the second Brexit Vote.
Darksouls129 no... Many people acknowledged that the first result should be honoured so voted Conservative as opposed to going with their stance on Brexit.
If it was done on popular, Labour, Lib Dem’s, SNP and Green parties percentiles reach over 50%, which is why we do need a popular vote.
(As that means remain got more votes but still lost due to FPTP).
R.I.P SNP if they start going by popular vote
Bluexit means bluexit
TH-cam suggesting me this video after 2024 elections is crazy.
You used the wrong here/hear in your description. Perish.
You say it's not a blue win but the last time a party won over 43.6% of the vote was in 1979.
Is this what they meant by the blue wave?
Some decent similarities here to the Democrats ignoring the Rust Belt working class in the 2016 election.
But labour didn't ignore the working classes they lost as badly as they did purely because of brexit
I was under the impression that the majority of workers in North England were for Brexit. The message from Corbyn and Labour was too convoluted. Boris Johnson smashing through walls (a recent publicity stunt) and having such a firm, loud, clear message resonated more. Labour and the Dems have the same problems. Since the collapse of traditional industry and manufacturing there has been a failure of messaging and policy. The Dems and Labour have not done enough to improve the lives of those effected most by the post-industrial world we live in. And when they have its typically not broadcasted loud or clear enough for people to understand. Its a problem for The Left across most Western democracies. The parties that traditionally fought for labor rights and welfare nets are now representing the urban, SJW, yuppy / elite interests. Especially in America there really is no working class party. And I am worried Labour in the UK is the same.
Its difficult to vote for a party that talks more about social justice when our water is poison, our infrastructure is crumbling, Walmart is the only store in town, and there is horse shit being served for lunch, dinner, and breakfast.
The one I'm suprised about was Blyth Valley changing to Conservative. Ronnie retired and they took massive advantage of it.
Sorry I dont know much about UK poltics so could anyone explain the two major partys stances on things like gun control and immigration or if thats to much is the conservative party in the UK like the Republicans in America and is the labor part like the democrats.
Thanks for any answers
Nobody here likes guns. Conservatives arent strictly anti-immigrant but they want tighter control than Labour
And no, Labour is not like the democrats because Labour is left wing (The democrats are the left party in america but tend to be right of the centre)
@@sudthskap what about their views on free speech
@@williammoore6534 Labour want further restrictions on speech and the conservatives don't care
@@gabryalservus157 ok thanks
Good video and surprisingly non-bias as I always assumed you would be an ardent Labour supporter, due to giving hints in past videos that you're more pro-EU than against it. I think you voted for LDs this time around.
Unbiased?? Have you been drinking?
Love how red and blue are opposite to America 😂
Tim Russert is behind the US convention. But 'red' for leftist/labour/liberal makes more sense intuitively. But like language, it just goes to show how we naturally split off our symbols.
i mean republicans were more liberal back then... Lincoln era...
@@zacksima8333 The Republicans used to be the blue party, if you look back at elections in the 1980s and early 90s the GOP was blue and the DEMs were red. But it somehow changed in the 90s.
p.s. the Isles of Scilly are called the silly isles or isles of silly. Also good video
I see another Scottish referendum in the future....
Never going to happen, we don't want it, SNP is only like 40% of the population
"We" don't want it? I think you mean "I don't want it"
TheTechOasis the majority of the population wants to remain in the EU, so it’s actually pretty likely
@@anz3533 no i mean ''WE'' as a country don't want it we already rejected it once. the majority of us don't want it
TheTechOasis the election was the perfect chance to go out and prove it then.
Dont know if you explained in previous video but is there a reason why you say Blue party over conservative party or Red party over Labour party
Ikr
Yo it was kind of annoying but he might be trying to avoid being penalized by TH-cam. They are really arbitrary when it comes to demonetizing political videos even when they arent radical in any way.
Just a guess
Honestly we need to move away from first past the post and create a system which actually represents the amount of people voting for the smaller parties. Lib Dems should have gotten more seats and likely the same with the green. I wish we could vote for the local MP we want and then the party overall that we support - apparently that's how it's done in Germany and it seems more likely to work than the mess we have here
It's called AMS or MMP abroad!
@@inkllama5445 Other countries are always in coalition and they do fine..
That's known as AMS, and it's already used for some elections in the UK (for the Scottish parliament I believe)
J Munday they do fine because they don’t have any massive decisions to make. While Brexit is around, any form of coalition would only further the current catastrophe it has been.
Natalie Greaves yeah we do that in Ireland and I found it strange that my friends up north weren’t able to vote for the sane, non-extreme like stlp and alliance parties and had to vote for for sin fein to avoid the DUP getting seats even though none of my friends support nationalism they just don’t want brexit.
Down south u vote everyone you want and I was surprised by their votes.
Why dont they take the % votes and split it so if some party gets 10% of the votes they get 10% of seats
Dzentrax I see how that would benefit brexit, but generally you want someone that also represents your area and you might prefer someone from another party who is a stronger leader in he government that gets things done in ur constituency than someone who is less powerful but has more of your ideas
It works great for libertarians who want permanent gridlock with no new policies being passed, but if you want your party to be able to pass policies when they are in power, you probably want it to be possible for them to have a majority in parliament.
I ve never been into politics whether it was my own country or the country I live in .. so i couldnt care less about whats happening in England.. But I m here to listen to toycat talk
England is now being run by racists.
@@JCEurovisionFan1996 you take things to the extreme too much.
The UK not england get it right
@@JCEurovisionFan1996 agreed but it's the UK not england
Quick, if pedantic, correction: SNP is the Scottish National Party, not Nationalist, as you said, with all that negatively implies. They want Scotland to be a Nation (once again).
nationalist doesn't have to be negative, but they are not not nationalists sorry!
@@ibx2cat Thanks, and reading back my comment it does seem a bit nippy so sorry about that. Think I still had a bee stuck in the proverbial about how it was used to try and smear the SNP during the independence referendum. Think I need to go and read up a bit more on nationalism if, as you say, it doesn't have to have negative connotations. Love both channels btw.
Thanks for the rundown my dude. Personally I voted green party as they are the most sensible in my area, but eh, I know its a no go for them in parliament.
I did the same thing (in the Australian election), I voted for one of the two non-major parties and they were actually the only non-major party to win a seat in my state. So I'm glad at least there is some sort of voice of my prefered party in government.
I wish I could have as clear vision as you guys who I would vote since parties in Finland do really like to jump sides depending who leads the party at the time. Currently I agree most with the social conservative/nationalist party I think.
One thing is clear at least, our current government is horrible, prime minister had to resign due to mass strike by our official post service.
@@mlgsty8880 antti rinne?
@@Samuel-xf5qz Yeah thats the guy who resigned.
FPTP means sadly the 865,000 green voters across the country will only be represented by one woman
I stumbled across your channel by accident. I love the fact that I can't tell what you feel about the win either positive, or negative. Your enthusiasm for politics and analysis is infectious. BBC needs to hire you up and put you on television as an educator to explain what all this is about without trying to spin it either conservative or labor.
Labour lost so bad because of their wishy washy Brexit policies that didn't satisfy either the remain or leave voters.
Lovely coverage of the election, thank you. =)
We held a mock vote in our school and got around 65% labour. It's mad how different ages think so differently
it's because young people tend to be more idealistic in their views and as they grow older their views become more practical and realistic. arguments against that idea have been stated for decades, but election after election similar age-based voting tendencies remain unchanged.
Churchill had a good quote in regards to this
@@oxenford539 The youth are willing to dream a little and their ambition is how society progresses, and when people grow older they realize that their former goals may be too difficult to reach and shoot for something more pragmatic. It is pretty much how the cycle usually goes, with exceptions every now and then with old progressives and young traditionalists but those are rarer.
my school had 76% tory lmao
Gen z is the most conservative generation since ww2
There are only 3 channels on youtube that talk about politics properly. Philip Defranco. Ibx2cat, and another gaming channel who accurately predicts elections through Worms.
It's Scottish National Party please do not confuse it with nationalists. They do a whole lot more for Scotland than any other party please don't just see them as the pro independence anti brexit party there's a lot more too them than that although that's definitely one of there many big goals
I know you are not a political channel,but as an American this was the only election breakdown video that was very concise and clear, but I could still follow along with my limited knowledge of uk political structure.
Can you just call it Conservatives and Labours, as to not confuse Americans who have their colors switched
Made this joke already but...
Not sure if Im watching Bob Ross or a political video. “Im gonna go ahead and run all the colors you’ll need for today’s video along the bottom of the screen.” 🎨
@@hollin220 "The Labor Party doesn't make mistakes... just happy accidents."
"A little bit of First Past the Post to make the colors distinct. It doesn't always have to be realistic."
"We've got Scotland up here, let's give them a friend. Actually, let's let them have some time alone."
No. Confusing Americans is fun
nessesaryschoolthing Bahahahahaha. Dude that was spot on, hilarious.
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Yes it’s so funny to misinform people from certain countries (obvious sarcasm)
There's not a major split in the SNP over EU membership - especially among the parliamentary party. Though, it could be argued one exists in the fringes of the independence movement (it's usually reported that a third of people who voted Yes in 2014 voted Leave in 2016).
I never understood the labour position on brexit. Are they pro or against? They chose not to choose and they lost everyone
Against if you're not with Brexit you're against it
Nice and "none polictical" exploination just explaining things as they happend... Great vid.. :D
and I thought republicans did bad in the 2018 election 🤧
Think you may have forgotten that NI does have their own parliament as such ‘Stormount’, which is different as it elects an ‘assembly’ where the two largest parties (DUP & SF) are in power together to resolve issues. It has not being performing great in recent years however...
Toycat, Labour or "Reds" as you put it, aren't far left remotely. They supported more rights for trade unions but im sorry, the UK would still have had the least aggressive tax policy in Europe, no more taxing against the rich than Germany is. Labour aren't far left and never really have been, the contrast comes from the fact that the Tories are pushing further right
As an American its amazing how appealing Labour is to me. We really dont have a working class party here. From your comment though I may be viewing Labour through ROSE colored glasses.... rose.... get it.... 😕
@Salterino Kripperino Democrats in the states are hardly left wing
@Salterino Kripperino OK boomer, that was one of the cringiest comments made under this video.
Interesting to note that between LAB, SNP, LD and GRN you have 50,3% which means that a majority of voters actually voted for a remain party. Had the UK had List PR we'd be looking at a very different result =)
But a majority of seats are con and not every voter is in favour of remaining
@@therealbaylee I think you misunderstand the point. A majority of the British population voted for parties that favored staying in The European Union. Because of how the electoral system works, popular majority does not mean that you get a majority of seats in parliament.
If you win a constituancy it does not matter whether you have 100% of the vote in that area or 50.1% of the votes in that area, the result is the same. In other words the constituancies that voted for left-wing parties have more clear cut winners in general while conservative constituancies were more neck-to-neck in general.
In the UK you have a first-past-the-post on a local level in elections for your parliament where you select the party you want to represent you in parliament, the coalition that wins chooses that representative of a constinuancy for parliament. In other countries no such thing happens, you don't have local representatives but instead you vote for a party and the person you want to support to get into parliament and then all the votes across the country is tallied together to create a proportional representation of the entire populations voting result.
Now there are benefits and deficits with both systems mind you, critics of the English system point to a democratic deficit, whereas critics of a more proportional system point to issues with favoritism of Urban areas and deficits in representativeness.
Uk election?
More like England election
Excuse me?
@@Damo2690most of the population of the UK is from england, so england basically decides the fate of the whole union
@@Gia1911Logous I feel this in western Canada
If you look at the raw numbers of 2017 with 2019, not many Labour voters switched over. They just didn't show up.
Labour did a horrendous job by taking no clear stance on Brexit.
I work in Bridgend, it's pretty poverty stricken so the switch to blue was very unexpected
Regardless of whether the Tories/Conservative party didn't pick up a larger margin of votes compared to the last Parliamentary election, even if Labour tanked its still a mandate for the Tory/Conservative Party to pass the policies in their platform. The SNP gain is going to be a delicate issue for the Boris Johnson and the Tories to handle "very carefully" to keep Scotland from holding a referendum to leave the UK.
BTW, I loved Margaret Thatcher and I loved Tony Blair!
Well Blair was just Tory lite
Fun fact: More people voted for pro-remain parties in this election than for pro-leave.
Fun fact: fun facts dont choose the direction a country will move in. Government seats do.
who else is not from the uk and is just watching for no reason
As a US worker who is dissatisfied with the Democratic establishment it was interesting to see the the workers of the UK vote against Labor. The Left in the West really needs to sit down and think hard on their strategies or they will continue to loose base support.
Im in favor of going further and further left but as pointed out in this video the Tony Blair’s of the world (moderate leftists) tend to be the most successful.
The parallels are interesting. Sad day for the working class.... cynically a good day for Scottish Independence and Irish Unification.
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It's not all of us I promise if trump is by some miracle impeached I might move to America
Its gonna be tough. It sounds like Im being biased but Republicans really care about the party image over the rule of law and respect for the Constitution. I guess the centrist Democrats are guilty of the same thing but I hear a lot more self-criticism from Dems the Rep. Republicans put party over country most the time and we need about 20 senators for vote for impeachment.
I think the strategy behind impeachment is to expose Trump’s criminal activites and abuse of office. He is more likely to be voted out of office then impeached.
Then again I am pretty cynical
@@hollin220 The senate doesn't vote for impeachment (laying the charges), they vote innocent or guilty.
Why do you use blue and red? Why not conservative and labour?
Yellow, Red, Orange, Blue
Àyọbamikale Olukoya Not sure if Im watching Bob Ross or a political video. “Im gonna go ahead and run all the colors you’ll need for today’s video along the bottom of the screen.” 🎨
I waited 26:48 minutes to see an edit or cut. How do you make a 26 minute video so well without any editing??? you must have high verbal skills.
As an “Orange Party” voter (LibDems..), we actually increased our power by 50% AND in my constituency we even GAINED a seat (just outside London) which I’m proud of, but it’s been a disastrous election since in other seats, we simply “drank” labour’s votes and split the remain campaign.
If you take the remain vote =
33.2%(Labour)+11.5%(LibDem)+3.9%(SNP)+2.7%(Green)+~1%(PC)+~1%(SF)= 52% REMAIN
43.6%(Conservatives)+2%(Brexit)+~1%(DUP)=47%
1% Looney Party and Elmo...
I can't see how LD have increased power. They had some influence before the election because parliament was split and a smallish number of MPs could make a difference. That's no longer the case.
Ben Alias I meant increased our vote share (by 1.2 million) but as you can read I’ve written that it’s been a disastrous campaign for us nevertheless. Our large vote share hasn’t materialised into seats and moreover helped the Toris gain seats from Labour - look at Kensington 26,000 LibLab 16,000 Tories and they won the seat by about 100 votes. It’s been like that in dozens of constituencies and it’s frustrating that the Labour didn’t want to work together with us, The Greens and Playd Cymru
That is the truth. In France, the other parties are smart enough to drop out when faced with a threat like the National Front. But SNP and LD kept harping on Labour, nonsense about Swinson being caretaker PM (as opposed to the leader of the opposition Crobyn, as convention demands), SNP decimating Labour (which is founded as a Scottish Party). Brexit Party even slashed into the Conservative victory in some districts, the parts that Labour won (Stoke on Trent North) were due to Brexit stealing from the Blue party. Which wasn't enough, for example, in Stoke-on-Trent South, which the Conservatives did capture.) TOO MUCH VOTE SPLITTING TO CALL A FAIR RESULT.
Con. party only got ten percent more nationally, but capture nearly double the seats. The electoral college on steroids.
irreview unfortunately it’s party before country for Labour and LibDem. 33+11% and if they run together as a one off (happens sometimes in Europe), they split the seats according to percentage in a Remain coalition.
Each party is holding primaries beforehand with rankings of MPs from 1-300 for example.
But the pride...
Pretty damn slippery slope to go from nationalising broadband to nationalising the moon lol
See, I understand your point about both parties sticking it to each other with false smears (also a consequence of First Past the Post, ofc), which is bad - but you're also taking a stab at some of the apparently exaggerated points from the left-side, f.ex. the privatization of the NHS, which, to your mind, would not be something the Torys advocated for directly, as it would be extremely unpopular (correct!), and that the democratic tendecies are to have the responsibility.
But if you've also established that the voting system is pretty sheit, and rather undemocratic in the sense that a lot of people's views are not entirely manifested into actual mandates, I don't think it would be necessarily a bad worry to have.
The Tories can have the ability to perform some things that might seem unpopular, especially with their majority (just as Labour could if they had that) - since the majority in broarder terms allow them to change some fundamental conditions for the discourse of the country, and garnering to the elite and overseas businesses, selling off critical infrastructure could perhaps be a scenario that could occur, since they're not that under scrutiny.
I'm not taking a stab at you personally - it's a good thing you attempt to stay as neutral as possible in these vids (no matter what your actual convictions are), but moreso to keep your reasoning aligned - since, as I mentioned, bringing up the talking point that "it's a democracy" (infering that in it's purest setting, in a way), when beforehand having complained about the extremely flawed electoral system, is not perfectly aligned to my mind
@SAnd PaPer Porky is a neo liberal
I think this is a permanent political realignment in Britian. The Tory's have officially become the party of the rural industrial areas and the Labour party has become the party of big cities. The red wall has fallen but expanding the red spots is their future path to victory, and the Tories path is to keep them as small as possible.
Let's just see how people's opinions change when things really go down the shitter - crying 'brexit' isn't going to be able to cover everything up forever.
I liked this video cause you stayed neutral