In the actual raid to get the bombers airborne the carrier was going full speed against the wind and they stripped as much weight as they could from the planes including their machine guns. We owe that generation so much for the sacrifices they made for us.
Also in the raid, they went after mostly shore installations - the most important targets were infrastructural. Yes, they had orders to go after Capital ships like Carriers and Battleships, maybe cruisers, if there were any - and they did at places like the Yokosuka Shipyards, since those are essentially larger and concentrated military installations. But there it is, they were aimed at shipyards, not necessarily a ship in the water - the surest way to disrupt the Japanese war economy was to hit buildings which would collapse in on themselves and destroy the infrastructure it housed, pumping substations, control substations for all kinds of facilities from Military to Commercial. So that's where most of their targets were, not floating in the water, but sitting on land (albeit much of it near water, since that's where many concentrations of such facilities were necessarily constructed).
Fun fact: In 1963, a series of experiments were done to show that a C-130 could land and take off from an aircraft carrier. Of course it was a Forrestal Class carrier (far bigger than the CV-8 Hornet), and the trials were considered so hazardous that the pilot (Lt. James Flatley III -- USN), was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his accomplishment.
Of all the things in the movie "Pearl Harbor" that just infuriates me was using the Doolittle raid as way of fixing the love triangle. Bad enough they had Alec Baldwin playing Jimmie Doolittle, but you cannot take P-40 pilots and put them in a B-25. The brave men who flew those B-25s were crews who had been flying together since the war started.
My great uncle, who passed away not to long ago..was a Doolittle pilot. He escaped beheading, but weighed a scant 98lbs after returning from Japanese hospitality. Bet he would have loved to pilot any modern aircraft on that day, given the choice. He did live long enough to see many much more capable planes fly...no thanks to the Japanese.
Many were tortured by the Japanese. Very few went to trial after because of the ritual suicide. Being a prisoner after defeat was too much for a Japanese officer.
I had a great Uncle who was most likely aboard Hornet as a part of her air group at the time of the raid. By the time she went down, he had been elevated to CAG, but I'd love to have heard his or other Navy jock's thoughts at the time.
30 Seconds over Tokyo is a great book. IIRC the bombers were spotted before reaching their targets but they were misidentified as G3M which also had a twin rudder design so no alarm was raised
The 1942 narrator mentioned one aircraft apparently having a difficult time getting into the air. My bet is that was the one whose pilot neglected to lower his flaps for extra lift. Yes, that did really happen.
Well seeing as how he was looking down a ridiculously short pitching and rolling "runway" and about to go on a mission in which his survival was unlikely, I think we can forgive him the mistake....
I have to agree with the narrator. The raid on Pearl Harbor was unexpected because the position of the Japanese carriers was not known, but just as much because there was no state of war; but the Doolittle Raid would have been considered impossible, because carriers like the Hornet were not designed for that kind of plane. If you like, the raid on Taranto deserves some consideration, too; it was arguably more effective than Pearl Harbor. The Israeli airstrikes at the beginning of the Six-Day War also deserve mention, though a WW2 newsreel could not know about those!
@@christosvoskresye eeeeehhh... It was *kinda* expected. Dusan "Dusko" Popov was working in the years before Pearl Harbor as a double agent feeding the German Abwehr crap information from a network of ficticious spies he said he was running in neutral Spain. He was reporting back to the British intelligence service, and taking misdirection stories from them to feed the Germans. The Germans approached Popov with a questionnaire from the Japanese, which was asking about the British naval attack with torpedo bombers and dive bombers on the Italian navy at anchor in Taranto, from carriers over the horizon. Popov put two and two together and approached the Americans, specifically J Edgar Hoover, telling them in no uncertain terms that the Japanese planned to attack Pearl Harbor. Hoover, according to Popov, "sat on the information". It is interesting though that on the day of the attack, the carriers were all out at sea on exercises. One would be forgiven for thinking that someone (maybe Hoover) had thought, "America doesn't want to get involved in another world war. Public opinion would crucify any president who took us into it. But if we were attacked on our own soil... That would be different." Having the carriers out of harm's way meant they had their casus belli but suffered no great strategic loss. If you can gett a copy, I highly recommend Popov's memoir "Spy: Counterspy". He's one of 3 or so real life spies that Fleming knew & based his character James Bond on.
Could have meant "wartime raid", since Pearl Harbour happened before war was declared?
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@@christosvoskresye the declaration of war came before the attack. Time zones just made the declaration came on the 8th, while the attack was the 7th. They declared war at the same time as they did on the UK, Netherlands, France, etc. Within the space of 7 hours they had attacked multiple points, East and West of the international date line.
Interesting Side Note: During The 1960s The US Navy Actually Landed A KC-130 Aboard USS Forrestal(CV-59) It Also Took Off From The Ship Under It's Own Power!!
@@ryanotte6737 it was a test program to see if it was even possible. They did at least half a dozen takeoffs and landings. Only hitch was refueling it since it had far bigger tanks than the carrier aircraft.
That was some great flying and both of them landing at the same time that was great I love it, the shot when both of you are coming in for a landing looking straight down the carrier that was a great shot hope everybody had a great Christmas
@@michaelvangundy226 That's what he meant by "Chinese airfields" -- airfields that were both in China and controlled by the Chinese. Of course, one bomber "accidentally" landed in the Soviet Union. There is good speculation that that had been planned from the beginning.
Yeah cuz they don't have enough fuel to return in carriers sadly some of them landed in IJA controlled area and became the POW and some of them is executed.
Merry Xmas Cap, you to the lovely Alison and Lt J Pickles, and rest of GR. hope you had great day, thanks for all the amazing and fun videos over the year.🎄
This is the sort of thing I'd use a time machine for. To interact and experiance these sorts of events first hand. Talk with some of the men on that mission and get their thoughts, then see their disbelief as these Army bombers actually take off.
Yup. Her air group was all stored in the hangar at the time, leaving Enterprise to protect her sister on the way in. Once th bombers were away, Hornet brought her air group up to help protect against an expected Japanese sortie that never occurred.
It's a one way trip men, here is some food and a letter with Chinese writing. If you make it home you'll be a hero. If not we will put your name in a book.
I've literally never heard it called an "after" deck until that announcer said it. Now Aft makes sense and I feel dumb. *I was today years old when I realized*
Your vids are great, but might I recommend spending a little time beforehand reading up on just how these weapon systems were used? The AC-130's left-mounted guns are a lot easier to aim if you fly a circle around the ground target with the tip of the left wing pointed at the target. The weapon system is not designed for making straight-line strafing runs.
Hello all, I’m new to all of this, no experience at all (apart from using an ancient WWII battle for Britain game back in the 2000’s). Friends have recommended DCS since I got VR. I have tried the Frogfoot tutorials but I’m absolutely rubbish with a keyboard and couldn’t be doing with lifting my headset to look down at the Keys. I’ve come from Sim racing and have a button box. Which of the “clickable” aircraft would get a novice up and running? Friends run aircraft in the Korea era. As I was growing up Jaguars, Tornadoes and Phantoms were flown by the RAF (I’m 53).
I really do like these DCS Modernized Reenactments. I would like to see more Human Controllable World War Aircraft added to the DCS Line-UP namely The Northrop P-61 Black Widow, The Vought F4U-4 Corsair, and The Grumman F6F Hellcat OR The Grumman F8F Bearcat. CAP, have you ever considered doing a "MAKING OF THE MISSION" Playlist? You could show all of us viewers how to design a good mission. After all you look to be a mission master.
One of my great-grandfathers was Jimmy Doolittle's dad - Doolittle was my grandmother's cousin. She never talked about the raid and very little about her cousin.
I wrote a biography on my grandfather and his experiences during WWll when I was in elementary school. When he passed away I reread it. I knew he was a pilot but I also learned that he helped train the pilots for the Doolittle program. He went to three different flying schools for the B-25, B-17, and B-29. He said over 200 men died during doolittle training.
Thing about this was Doolittle and his guy's HAD to know there was a VERY good change this was going to a one-way ride. But the temptation of being the first Americans to give the japanese emperor a realistic look at coming attractions was something they couldn't pass up..Brokaw was right. "Greatest Generation".
Yup. They were experimenting with using C-130s to resupply carriers when the old C-1 Traders weren't up to the task. The development of the C-2 Greyhound made the idea unnecessary.
I mentioned this before...but it would be interesting if a flight of gunships would help the 6th Army break out from the Stalingrad encirclement or help Hoth's rescue attempt of the 6th Army..At night they would invulnerable. another scenario could a flight of AC' defeat the Soviets at the Battle of Seelow Heights by obliterating their armour columns and artillery batteries.
What doomed the 6th Army was the destruction 3/4 of the Ju52’s on the ground by the T-34’s of the Russian army (at the airfield to the west of Stalingrad that they were carrying supplies FROM).
One effect of this raid was a marked increase in radio traffic among the Japanese navy, and most of it about finding the hornet. The American code breakers took advantage and broke the navel code.
How about one of those wonderful "what if's" and have a few AC-130 variants go back in time and do the Doolittle raids? Maybe one plane per target with a limit of one or two circles (manned) using guided munitions and the big gun on one pass and the Bofors and Gatling or Bushmaster (depends on what mod) for cleanup on the second?
The actual Doolittle raid was an act of excellent bravery. I have a recommendation for everyone: watch the movie "Midway". In the actual raid, the weather was horrible at sea. I can't remember the weather over Japan. The original bombers didn't have the fuel to return to the carrier they launched from and actually were ditched over China. Is there anyway to modify the aircraft from DCS? for example, could you modify an A-10 to carry a dozen Sidewinders? (Strictly for use in WW2.) Could you modify a B-29 with laser guidance pods (and carry laser guided bombs)? Could you modify a C-17 (or C-5) into an AC-17 (or AC-5) with GAU-8/A Avenger cannons? (My dream planes!) Could you modify a B-52 (or an AWACS) to carry several dozen AMRAAMs and Sidewinders? (Even better, how about a few dozen AIM-54 Phoenix missiles?) Anyways, Merry Christmas, everyone!
They never intended to land the planes back on the Carriers. If everything went as planned they had a safe disignated landing strip for them in China. But since that little patrol boat saw them they left 10 hours early causing half of the pilots to ditch into the sea and the other half crash landed in contested Burma.
@@thudthud5423 In the Zhejiang-Jiangxi campaign of 1942, launched as reprisal for the Doolittle Raid, Japanese troops murdered up to 250,000 Chinese civilians using biological weapons.
I almost feel bad for the Japanese patrol boat. It got lit up super hard for stumbling upon the taskforce. I would be like 1v14 in WOWS in a mid 30s DD.
+GrimReapersAtomic *The U. S. Air Force / Lockheed Georgia AC-130 Juliett is a direct relative of a Carrier Onboard Delivery candidate of the past: The USN-USMC GV-1.* The GV carrier-suitability trials were conducted on a U. S. Navy CVA-59 Class carrier; the CVN-65 and CVN-68 Classes would make for long enough runways for the AC-130J, motoring into the wind at full normal speed.
what Carrier model were you launching from? It looks like an Essex class Carrier, but the 5 inch guns near the Island of the Carrier are single barreled as opposed to twin barreled.
Hi Cap, cool landing :) HMAS Melbourne was made to the British 1942 Light Fleet Carrier Specification. How about doing this again with a WWII carrier and 16 Mosquitos?
Is thrust reversal modeled on the DCS C-130 and variants in DCS? If so, I imagine it would be useful in landing on a Wasp class sized ship. I live fairly close to Straton Air National Guard base in Upstate New York, home to the 109th Airlift Wing of the New York Air National Gaurd, and have seen them land many times. I am not sure how it is on most C-130s, but the C-130s used by the 109th (specifically the LC-130H Skibird variant) need the thrust reversers for their mission landing on ice and snow in Arctic and Antarctic locations. Incidentally, a LC-130 with their props in reverse thrust is probably the loudest I have ever heard any aircraft. Now, as an alternative for this scenario, consider this. A modern F/A-18E/F is capable of carrying up to 8,000 kg of ordinance. Obviously not particularly far, but that is significantly more than the 900kg each Mitchell carried in the Doolittle Raid. Even a more standard load of two sidewinders and four 450kg would give more lethal capabilities with its standard configurations. Some changes might have to be made based on what modules are available, but it could make for an interesting "what if" in a "Final Countdown" style.
Returning to the carrier was a bit silly. while I know that you guys had landed a C-130 on a carrier before, one problem you skipped, was that the carriers wouldn't have stuck around to recover the Hercules. Because there would have been the little matter of the Japanese fleet coming out to intercept the carriers...and since the task force commander knew tha, t the task force would have "gotten the hell out of Dodge"...and when the C-130s returned, the carriers wouldn't have been there.
I know it's not part of this video, but do you guys have the capability to do purely naval combat? I'd love to see Bismarck vs an Iowa-class battleship, one on one.
I somewhat love that USS Shangri-La was named after the Doolittle raid, after FDR said that the strike came from "Shangri-la", not releasing the name of the carrier who delivered the strike. Both Hornet and Shangri-la have skills that utilize B-25sband have them in their skins in Azur Lane. Love the little details in that game that get me to look up histories of ships and try and find those little details.
I have to ask here, I have the newest Anubis mod, in older version there was an option for autopilot pylon turn/ battle circle with AC-130J Spooky, I tried everything, set the waypoint into flight computer navigation, flew there, tried to turn on CAP option on autopilot panel, nothing happened, is that option still valid? Am I doing something wrong? Excellent video as always, sir and I hope you can help me :)
In the actual raid to get the bombers airborne the carrier was going full speed against the wind and they stripped as much weight as they could from the planes including their machine guns. We owe that generation so much for the sacrifices they made for us.
Including that it was basically a suicide mission because most of them were killed or captured by the Japanese.
Couldn't agree more.
@@noidontthinksolol Not all of us but sadly enough the f.ing up part is growing
Also in the raid, they went after mostly shore installations - the most important targets were infrastructural. Yes, they had orders to go after Capital ships like Carriers and Battleships, maybe cruisers, if there were any - and they did at places like the Yokosuka Shipyards, since those are essentially larger and concentrated military installations. But there it is, they were aimed at shipyards, not necessarily a ship in the water - the surest way to disrupt the Japanese war economy was to hit buildings which would collapse in on themselves and destroy the infrastructure it housed, pumping substations, control substations for all kinds of facilities from Military to Commercial. So that's where most of their targets were, not floating in the water, but sitting on land (albeit much of it near water, since that's where many concentrations of such facilities were necessarily constructed).
@@noidontthinksolol not enough people are seeing this comment. I hate my generation and the one coming after it. Uhg.
Fun fact: In 1963, a series of experiments were done to show that a C-130 could land and take off from an aircraft carrier. Of course it was a Forrestal Class carrier (far bigger than the CV-8 Hornet), and the trials were considered so hazardous that the pilot (Lt. James Flatley III -- USN), was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for his accomplishment.
Of all the things in the movie "Pearl Harbor" that just infuriates me was using the Doolittle raid as way of fixing the love triangle. Bad enough they had Alec Baldwin playing Jimmie Doolittle, but you cannot take P-40 pilots and put them in a B-25. The brave men who flew those B-25s were crews who had been flying together since the war started.
While this never happened in the Doolittle raid. Their were times when pilots flew different types of planes. Mostly because they didn't have choice.
Aaron Eckhart played a better Colonel Dolittle in Midway.
Pearl Harbor sucks and I miss you.
@@harryparatestes Best song ever written.
My great uncle, who passed away not to long ago..was a Doolittle pilot.
He escaped beheading, but weighed a scant 98lbs after returning from Japanese hospitality.
Bet he would have loved to pilot any modern aircraft on that day, given the choice.
He did live long enough to see many much more capable planes fly...no thanks to the Japanese.
Wow! My father, 2/31 Btn AIF, fought in New Guinea in 1943. My sincere thanks and admiration for your great uncle.
I salute your great uncle.
My Respects!!!!
Many were tortured by the Japanese. Very few went to trial after because of the ritual suicide. Being a prisoner after defeat was too much for a Japanese officer.
I had a great Uncle who was most likely aboard Hornet as a part of her air group at the time of the raid. By the time she went down, he had been elevated to CAG, but I'd love to have heard his or other Navy jock's thoughts at the time.
30 Seconds over Tokyo is a great book. IIRC the bombers were spotted before reaching their targets but they were misidentified as G3M which also had a twin rudder design so no alarm was raised
Because the japanese simply couldn't imagine the US to be able or willing to get medium land based bombers to reach the Japanese mainland
The 1942 narrator mentioned one aircraft apparently having a difficult time getting into the air. My bet is that was the one whose pilot neglected to lower his flaps for extra lift. Yes, that did really happen.
Ruptured Duck (No 7) piloted by Ted Lawson
I think it was the weight of his balls.
Well seeing as how he was looking down a ridiculously short pitching and rolling "runway" and about to go on a mission in which his survival was unlikely, I think we can forgive him the mistake....
Let's not forget the one plane that had a prop strike a sailor on deck...
"The greatest surprise raid in history" said the film narrator without a trace of irony 4 months after Pearl Harbor! Great landing, neat idea.
The surprise was for the Japanese, who had no expectation of any direct consequences for the Pearl Harbor attack. =^[.]^=
I have to agree with the narrator. The raid on Pearl Harbor was unexpected because the position of the Japanese carriers was not known, but just as much because there was no state of war; but the Doolittle Raid would have been considered impossible, because carriers like the Hornet were not designed for that kind of plane. If you like, the raid on Taranto deserves some consideration, too; it was arguably more effective than Pearl Harbor. The Israeli airstrikes at the beginning of the Six-Day War also deserve mention, though a WW2 newsreel could not know about those!
@@christosvoskresye eeeeehhh... It was *kinda* expected. Dusan "Dusko" Popov was working in the years before Pearl Harbor as a double agent feeding the German Abwehr crap information from a network of ficticious spies he said he was running in neutral Spain. He was reporting back to the British intelligence service, and taking misdirection stories from them to feed the Germans. The Germans approached Popov with a questionnaire from the Japanese, which was asking about the British naval attack with torpedo bombers and dive bombers on the Italian navy at anchor in Taranto, from carriers over the horizon. Popov put two and two together and approached the Americans, specifically J Edgar Hoover, telling them in no uncertain terms that the Japanese planned to attack Pearl Harbor. Hoover, according to Popov, "sat on the information". It is interesting though that on the day of the attack, the carriers were all out at sea on exercises. One would be forgiven for thinking that someone (maybe Hoover) had thought, "America doesn't want to get involved in another world war. Public opinion would crucify any president who took us into it. But if we were attacked on our own soil... That would be different." Having the carriers out of harm's way meant they had their casus belli but suffered no great strategic loss. If you can gett a copy, I highly recommend Popov's memoir "Spy: Counterspy". He's one of 3 or so real life spies that Fleming knew & based his character James Bond on.
Could have meant "wartime raid", since Pearl Harbour happened before war was declared?
@@christosvoskresye the declaration of war came before the attack.
Time zones just made the declaration came on the 8th, while the attack was the 7th.
They declared war at the same time as they did on the UK, Netherlands, France, etc.
Within the space of 7 hours they had attacked multiple points, East and West of the international date line.
Interesting Side Note: During The 1960s The US Navy Actually Landed A KC-130 Aboard USS Forrestal(CV-59) It Also Took Off From The Ship Under It's Own Power!!
I imagine the flight deck crew was thrilled to have such an aircraft aboard and take on the job to ready it for takeoff again. 😛
@@ryanotte6737 it was a test program to see if it was even possible. They did at least half a dozen takeoffs and landings. Only hitch was refueling it since it had far bigger tanks than the carrier aircraft.
Jato bottles!
@@bobfish3176 Negative Shipmate!! The C-130 Crew Didn't Use JATO/RATO Bottles!! The Video Shows Nothing Attached To The Fuselage
That was some great flying and both of them landing at the same time that was great I love it, the shot when both of you are coming in for a landing looking straight down the carrier that was a great shot hope everybody had a great Christmas
They should be proud of themselves, incinerated women and children what heroes!!
The original plan didn't involve return to the Hornet. The B-25s were to land at Chinese airfields.
yup
Or ditch in Chinese controlled areas. China was overrun and occupied by Japanese since 1935.
@@michaelvangundy226 That's what he meant by "Chinese airfields" -- airfields that were both in China and controlled by the Chinese.
Of course, one bomber "accidentally" landed in the Soviet Union. There is good speculation that that had been planned from the beginning.
Yeah cuz they don't have enough fuel to return in carriers sadly some of them landed in IJA controlled area and became the POW and some of them is executed.
Merry Xmas Cap, you to the lovely Alison and Lt J Pickles, and rest of GR. hope you had great day, thanks for all the amazing and fun videos over the year.🎄
You too Gordy! x
Merry Christmas and Congratulations on a Very Successful Mission, RC and Cap! Drinks on me in the Flag Lounge. Lol
Merry Christmas
Now this is something I can get behind! Thanks for doing all these historical reimaginations.
For about five minutes I forgot I was watching a Grim Reapers video.
Had a patient that was on the Enterprise and got to watch the Doo Little Raiders take off! It was an incredible story from him.
This is the sort of thing I'd use a time machine for. To interact and experiance these sorts of events first hand. Talk with some of the men on that mission and get their thoughts, then see their disbelief as these Army bombers actually take off.
"This is for Betty!"
Classic!
Great video!
The view of the C-130s coming in to land on the carrier was really cool. Merry Christmas!
I must say if war ever broke out in this type of realm I would definitely want you guys on our side. Lol
Brilliant landing!🤘
All in all a very entertaining time travel Vid!👍👍
Hornet couldn't operate their regular aircraft with the B-25s on board, they were escorted by Enterprise their sister ship.
Yup. Her air group was all stored in the hangar at the time, leaving Enterprise to protect her sister on the way in. Once th bombers were away, Hornet brought her air group up to help protect against an expected Japanese sortie that never occurred.
nice one capt! that's a lot of dead fish on the coast!
Great vid! Love seeing this module! I hope the devs are continuing to develop it!
Yet more Christmas goodies ! Thanks guys.
Landing Safety Officer @ 12:00: "WTF wave off! Wave off!"
That was awesome right from the intro! Even a history lesson
Bomb cam. Just like on the real raid. Nice touch!
It's a one way trip men, here is some food and a letter with Chinese writing. If you make it home you'll be a hero. If not we will put your name in a book.
“Nah, don’t need that, I’m flying back to the carrier!”
Facts
Beautiful shots, looks fantastic. Good work.
Oh man I totally forgot I was watching a gr video lol, was full screen and was just enjoying the doc
I've literally never heard it called an "after" deck until that announcer said it. Now Aft makes sense and I feel dumb.
*I was today years old when I realized*
Whoa, never imagined you guys doing this.
HAD to be done :)
I didn't know a C-130 could bomb. Learned something new. Nice vid
AC-130W and AC-130J can. As well as the Marines Harvest Hawk C-130.
@@kerbalairforce8802 Thank you sir for the info.
Your vids are great, but might I recommend spending a little time beforehand reading up on just how these weapon systems were used? The AC-130's left-mounted guns are a lot easier to aim if you fly a circle around the ground target with the tip of the left wing pointed at the target. The weapon system is not designed for making straight-line strafing runs.
thx
That was damn great flyin and landing on the carrier
Hello all, I’m new to all of this, no experience at all (apart from using an ancient WWII battle for Britain game back in the 2000’s). Friends have recommended DCS since I got VR. I have tried the Frogfoot tutorials but I’m absolutely rubbish with a keyboard and couldn’t be doing with lifting my headset to look down at the Keys. I’ve come from Sim racing and have a button box.
Which of the “clickable” aircraft would get a novice up and running? Friends run aircraft in the Korea era. As I was growing up Jaguars, Tornadoes and Phantoms were flown by the RAF (I’m 53).
"Many awoke that morning to the shaking of bombs, or from many people yelling "ENEMY AC-130 ABOVE!"
Excellent landing in the end.
I really do like these DCS Modernized Reenactments. I would like to see more Human Controllable World War Aircraft added to the DCS Line-UP namely The Northrop P-61 Black Widow, The Vought F4U-4 Corsair, and The Grumman F6F Hellcat OR The Grumman F8F Bearcat.
CAP, have you ever considered doing a "MAKING OF THE MISSION" Playlist? You could show all of us viewers how to design a good mission. After all you look to be a mission master.
The irony of the Dolittle Raid is that every aircraft that had been named met unfortunate fates.
"Since physics is a non issue" - OMG. Awesome video
Imagine being on the Japanese force and just hearing "BRRRRRT" from the side of one of these lmao
That was brilliant 👏 extremely well done lads 👍🎉
2:12 They were sending a message to the Japanese patrol boat "we are actively shooting at you and hope to sink you!".
8:00
The people of beirut be like:thats nothing, call us back when your port itself has exploded
Just keep in mind the B-25 was about the same size as a modern F-15 Eagle Fighter Jet.
And the F-15 is capable of flying and landing safely with only one wing.
The B-25 Mitchell had a wingspan of 67' 7" and a length of 52' 11". The F-15 has a wingspan of 42' 10" and a length of 63' 9".
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Fun to watch! Nice landings!
One of my great-grandfathers was Jimmy Doolittle's dad - Doolittle was my grandmother's cousin. She never talked about the raid and very little about her cousin.
Impressive landing
Not often one gets a Blackadder II reference and a Full Metal Jacket reference in the same film.
Dying breed :(
NICE landing!
4 fans of freedom !!!
damn Cap that was awesome.. maybe an AC130 mission in a Vietnam campaign?? luv the vid bro^^
Already planning it :)
I wrote a biography on my grandfather and his experiences during WWll when I was in elementary school. When he passed away I reread it. I knew he was a pilot but I also learned that he helped train the pilots for the Doolittle program. He went to three different flying schools for the B-25, B-17, and B-29. He said over 200 men died during doolittle training.
Close to 50k died in training accidents during WW2..
@@teufelshunde4 talking about training for Doolittle operation
Fantastic landing gentlemen!
You know that C-130s have landed and launched from a US Carrier before, right? Anyway, that was glorious to watch!
landing C-130's on carrier is so cute. You haven't lived until you land 747's on a Nimitz class.
Thing about this was Doolittle and his guy's HAD to know there was a VERY good change this was going to a one-way ride. But the temptation of being the first Americans to give the japanese emperor a realistic look at coming attractions was something they couldn't pass up..Brokaw was right. "Greatest Generation".
They did some actual landings and takeoffs of a C-130 on a carrier before. Even loaded with a good amount of weight.
Yup. They were experimenting with using C-130s to resupply carriers when the old C-1 Traders weren't up to the task. The development of the C-2 Greyhound made the idea unnecessary.
Now do Apache’s during the Civil War.
Make it interesting, the North had Hinds, the CSA had Apaches flown by actual members of the Apache Tribe.
The Dolittle raid that boost US morale and japan didn't expect that american plane can reach Japan.
A thing of beauty, this.
Merry damn Christmas..sleep deprivation continues. oh but this is short ! phew. Great idea.
Merry Christmas
I mentioned this before...but it would be interesting if a flight of gunships would help the 6th Army break out from the Stalingrad encirclement or help Hoth's rescue attempt of the 6th Army..At night they would invulnerable. another scenario could a flight of AC' defeat the Soviets at the Battle of Seelow Heights by obliterating their armour columns and artillery batteries.
What doomed the 6th Army was the destruction 3/4 of the Ju52’s on the ground by the T-34’s of the Russian army (at the airfield to the west of Stalingrad that they were carrying supplies FROM).
Great flying gents!
flawless. great job as usually reapers
One effect of this raid was a marked increase in radio traffic among the Japanese navy, and most of it about finding the hornet. The American code breakers took advantage and broke the navel code.
How about one of those wonderful "what if's" and have a few AC-130 variants go back in time and do the Doolittle raids?
Maybe one plane per target with a limit of one or two circles (manned) using guided munitions and the big gun on one pass and the Bofors and Gatling or Bushmaster (depends on what mod) for cleanup on the second?
We are the tip of the sword.
Doolittle stated. There is nothing more honorable than that of the heart of a volunteer.
so sick! thanks GR!
It was balletic! Happy Christmas to all the Reapers and families!
Merry Christmas
LOL That was awesome!
The actual Doolittle raid was an act of excellent bravery.
I have a recommendation for everyone: watch the movie "Midway".
In the actual raid, the weather was horrible at sea. I can't remember the weather over Japan.
The original bombers didn't have the fuel to return to the carrier they launched from and actually were ditched over China.
Is there anyway to modify the aircraft from DCS? for example, could you modify an A-10 to carry a dozen Sidewinders? (Strictly for use in WW2.) Could you modify a B-29 with laser guidance pods (and carry laser guided bombs)? Could you modify a C-17 (or C-5) into an AC-17 (or AC-5) with GAU-8/A Avenger cannons? (My dream planes!) Could you modify a B-52 (or an AWACS) to carry several dozen AMRAAMs and Sidewinders? (Even better, how about a few dozen AIM-54 Phoenix missiles?)
Anyways, Merry Christmas, everyone!
They never intended to land the planes back on the Carriers. If everything went as planned they had a safe disignated landing strip for them in China. But since that little patrol boat saw them they left 10 hours early causing half of the pilots to ditch into the sea and the other half crash landed in contested Burma.
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Or watch "Thirty Seconds over Tokyo." You see the bravery of the pilots and the heroic acts of the Chinese to help those men once they crashed.
@@johnharris6655 Ah, the Chinese resistance. From what I've read, many, many of them were killed by the Japanese for helping Doolittle and his men.
@@thudthud5423 In the Zhejiang-Jiangxi campaign of 1942, launched as reprisal for the Doolittle Raid, Japanese troops murdered up to 250,000 Chinese civilians using biological weapons.
I almost feel bad for the Japanese patrol boat. It got lit up super hard for stumbling upon the taskforce. I would be like 1v14 in WOWS in a mid 30s DD.
Wrong place wrong time...
+GrimReapersAtomic *The U. S. Air Force / Lockheed Georgia AC-130 Juliett is a direct relative of a Carrier Onboard Delivery candidate of the past: The USN-USMC GV-1.* The GV carrier-suitability trials were conducted on a U. S. Navy CVA-59 Class carrier; the CVN-65 and CVN-68 Classes would make for long enough runways for the AC-130J, motoring into the wind at full normal speed.
what Carrier model were you launching from? It looks like an Essex class Carrier, but the 5 inch guns near the Island of the Carrier are single barreled as opposed to twin barreled.
It was Big Ben I think.
Hi Cap, cool landing :) HMAS Melbourne was made to the British 1942 Light Fleet Carrier Specification. How about doing this again with a WWII carrier and 16 Mosquitos?
Great video. That was cool.
lol at the brake distance of these C-130s
They can also carry a 30k pound bomb ..I'd have to look up the speeds but they may also be faster than the b25
Would love to see what a SQUDRON or two of fully loaded F117's or WARTHOGS could have done
Made me wonder.. how did they get all those bombers on the carrier in the first place? Can they land okay? Or loaded in dock?
Loaded in dock, I think. 🤔
A crane was used to load them onto the deck since the flight deck was not long enough to recover them.
They were craned/loaded on. There was never any intention of Landing. Once they launched they flew to China
Craned them on in port. It was probably more of a pain in the ass to get them pier side in one piece if anything.
Theres news real footage out there of them being hoisted aboard in port.
So it was tested cap as to if a c-130 could land and take off from a carrier
The United States Navy has actually launched a C-130 off of a carrier deck
cool
@@grimreapers there is actually a TH-cam video of it
Is thrust reversal modeled on the DCS C-130 and variants in DCS? If so, I imagine it would be useful in landing on a Wasp class sized ship. I live fairly close to Straton Air National Guard base in Upstate New York, home to the 109th Airlift Wing of the New York Air National Gaurd, and have seen them land many times. I am not sure how it is on most C-130s, but the C-130s used by the 109th (specifically the LC-130H Skibird variant) need the thrust reversers for their mission landing on ice and snow in Arctic and Antarctic locations. Incidentally, a LC-130 with their props in reverse thrust is probably the loudest I have ever heard any aircraft.
Now, as an alternative for this scenario, consider this. A modern F/A-18E/F is capable of carrying up to 8,000 kg of ordinance. Obviously not particularly far, but that is significantly more than the 900kg each Mitchell carried in the Doolittle Raid. Even a more standard load of two sidewinders and four 450kg would give more lethal capabilities with its standard configurations. Some changes might have to be made based on what modules are available, but it could make for an interesting "what if" in a "Final Countdown" style.
Yes we have beta reverse.
Returning to the carrier was a bit silly. while I know that you guys had landed a C-130 on a carrier before, one problem you skipped, was that the carriers wouldn't have stuck around to recover the Hercules. Because there would have been the little matter of the Japanese fleet coming out to intercept the carriers...and since the task force commander knew tha, t the task force would have "gotten the hell out of Dodge"...and when the C-130s returned, the carriers wouldn't have been there.
christmas is merry today
I know it's not part of this video, but do you guys have the capability to do purely naval combat? I'd love to see Bismarck vs an Iowa-class battleship, one on one.
Yes preparing to do this in Jan :)
@@grimreapers Outstanding, Cap. Definitely looking forward to it!!
That was cool.
I miss the old cooler Carrier names, they so so much better. Except if a ship is named after a monarch, that's fucking cool.
I somewhat love that USS Shangri-La was named after the Doolittle raid, after FDR said that the strike came from "Shangri-la", not releasing the name of the carrier who delivered the strike. Both Hornet and Shangri-la have skills that utilize B-25sband have them in their skins in Azur Lane. Love the little details in that game that get me to look up histories of ships and try and find those little details.
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I saw Azure lane then ignored everything you said.
I'm not gonna use that as a source
Amazing landing
This is a better reenactment than that michael bay movie. If y'all know what i mean. . .
Could a pair of CVEs (escort carriers with F4F Wildcats aboard) have prevented the near destruction of PQ-17?
I have to ask here, I have the newest Anubis mod, in older version there was an option for autopilot pylon turn/ battle circle with AC-130J Spooky, I tried everything, set the waypoint into flight computer navigation, flew there, tried to turn on CAP option on autopilot panel, nothing happened, is that option still valid? Am I doing something wrong?
Excellent video as always, sir and I hope you can help me :)
Would love to see a MOAB type weapon drop...
Now your talking.
Good idea
@@grimreapers can you do B52s in Doolittle raid
What you need to do is see if a pair of JDF F-16s can intercept Doolittle.
This was awesome
How did you get a ww2 carrier in dcs
"accurate inteligence to ensure that only targets of military value will be hit"
LeMay : Damn bro thats crazy
A C130 in the 1940s? WTF?!?! They're gonna think it's a hell spawn!!
The Japanese would wonder what a turbine engine is....
If this is a prelude to Midway, please do Zipang. Can a single Kongo class DDH save the Kidou Butai at Midway?