I wish I had watched this a year ago. I went to seek advice from one of the leaders who I thought was my friend about what I was struggling with because the church hurt was caused by one of the lead pastors in the church. I went to her because I thought she might have dealt with it and knew what to do but she went and told the whole leadership in the church what I told her. The situation is out of control so I might have to leave. I wish I knew how to deal with it properly in the beginning. I can’t seem to get over it. I forgive but I still remember. It has resulted in me not trusting people in the church.
Friend, I had a very similar situation and I too didn’t handle it very well. I recommend that you continue in forgiveness in your heart and don’t let it become a root of bitterness in your heart as I did (I’ve repented of that and God has miraculously healed me), for that will lead you to sin. If you’re able to, when the Lord leads you, discuss it with the leadership and seek reconciliation (Matthew 5:23-24). Leave the results to God, but do your bit. If they won’t reconcile, you continue to walk in forgiveness. Someday it will all be clear.
I’m submitting though I disagree on a few points at Church....I’m submitting because I need the Body of Christ more than my need to agree on every point I’m depending on the Cross on the Holy Spirit to in mercy sort us all out in kindness grace and revelation...Jesus help. amen 🙏
Kindly pastor Vladimir talk about how to deal with toxic people as Christian ,especially if those kind of people are our friends spouse or family thankyou.
@@vladhungrygenPastor Vlad, my pastor is Calvinistic (people predestined for hell) the leaders and elders are many years younger than him and are still in need of deliverance. It’s been this way for many years. It’s a small church and the pastor is the owner also. He has no covering either. This is the only church in town that believes in the power of the Holy Spirit. I wanna leave but also want to serve!! Idk what to do 🙏🏼
Thanks for this message Pastor Vlad. It brings to closure something God has been teaching me over the last few weeks about a situation I faced with a church I used to attend. I didn’t handle it well, and I got very critical of the pastor for a long time over doctrine for which I could find no biblical basis. I preached to a different church earlier today on forgiveness from the heart according to Matthew 18, which I felt God put on my heart a while back, and I confessed my own transgressions to God and asked him to forgive me. I will be reaching out to this pastor to reconcile, and I believe we will, but I’ve found that keeping my focus on Jesus is way more important than being right doctrinally. The only reason we get offended over anything is because of self centredness, and not because of what others do or say to us.
Thank you for this Pastor Vlad. I'm going to use this to help those I know who are going through disagreements in the church. My husband has actually made it a point that if anyone comes into our home and speaks against the Pastor, church member or brethren from any other church, to not allow that conversation to continue and change the topic. May God continue to bless and use you Pastor Vlad.
..this is helpful, cos the enemy’s agenda is to sow discord among believers. From now on my brother, you’ve become one of the few people I listen to. Love✝️❤️ from Africa
Highly recommending Vlads devotion plans on bible app youversion interestingly enough Pastor Vlad was discussing unity among believers in one of his devotions I read this morning ...so very cool 😎 what a confirmation🔥 🕊
What are you supposed to do if the person is a toxic narcissist and has been abusing you? Talking to a person who's abusing you allows them to perpetuate that abuse. You're advised to go no contact with that abusive person.
Such a beautiful message, I am blessed. I pray for my small church and it's leaders. We are in need of supernatural courage to confront several issues and practice being gracious to one another. All the more that the appointed time is near. It's not easy to stick around with different kinds of imperfect people including me but I agree, we need to press on more to Jesus and let Him abide in us. I hope for resolution and reconciliation all in Jesus' name!
It is best to speak directly but what if the people you had conflicts with make fun of you when you forgive them and ask for their forgiveness in case you did something bad as well? Or a person might be not wanting ever to resolve the issue especially when that person can have different moods and for others sometimes it depends if they need something from you? You help many times and pressure yourself but then again at any small problem you get called terrible names? We let them go… if somebody likes me just for what I give, then it is obvious. Life goes on… we live and let live.
What if there isn't a personal disagreement or doctrinal disagreement? What if the other person in church just doesn't show you love or has cut friendship ties with you. Are we supposed to hold the former church friend accountable for not showing you love?
As much as we want to be able to have closure with people who cut ties, we just have to let them go. It’s possible to continue to go to the same church but if the person is slandering you I’d say it’s okay to leave and go somewhere where you’re being valued.
Hi I have a question , need advice on hat do we do when we are trying to encourage a leader but continues to be negative I don’t want to stop talking to her she’s my friend but always negative
Hi pastor Vlad, can you speak on how to honor and forgive abusive parents?! Does forgiveness mean you're supposed to have a personal relationship with them, especially when that has never been established?!
Man this was good bro pastor. I'd like to speak with you sometime. I have pretty intense thing going could use some good counsel. I know your busy though. So keep on keeping on soldier. Jesus is Lord!
When a pastor preachers, any one of the congregation could get offended, but it could from inner insecurity of person, that gets triggered, when pastor says something. That's the persons responsibility to go away and pray to God, before u open your mouth, then calmly speak to them privately after gods filtered your bad stuff
In our church it's women in office - i.e. being elders and pastors, we already have women deacons. We did drawing of lots for elders this past year and 5 women and 1 divorced man were drawn from the bag of names so not sure how to take that. Next up for debate in our denomination is the PRIDE agenda acceptance. When that happens I'm out!
amen!!!!! thank you very much pastor.....I am rebuke!!!!!!! Pastor....can i have email messages from you? I am handling Bible Study..and i want to have a bible study lesson from you....Can i?
What if the leaders dont want to hear about it leaders are just bunch of bullies covering for each other anyone who rasises a issue gets labeled as a gossip and causing division and warned or kicked out of church?
There is a situation going on in my church. One of the church leaders got angry with the pastor for a trivial issue. Then that person was caught lying and gossiping about our pastor to other church people, sending multiple emails, text messages to them. Pastor knows about and tried to resolve the issue talking to that person. It was useless. the situation brought division to the church, confusion and sadness. The conflict is kind of resolved in a superficial way as more facts about that person spreading lies and rumors come up. I am afraid we deal with mentally sick and possibly possessed person. This revelation was shocking. The pastor is hesitant to remove the person from the leadership position for the fear that it might cause misunderstanding from people who are not aware of this situation. I believe every pastor is tested for the ability to lead and handle such situations, to have courage to make wise and Biblical decisions. Being a pastor is not for the faint of heart.
My pastor is narcissistic and don’t want to listen to what I say because he thinks he’s a expert on everything. We’re fixing to leave that church we’ve been to for 21 years. My nerves can’t take the pastor anymore.
Where does the bible say to go to the board when there is a problem or conflict?? It doesnt!! The bible does say to go to the one you have a problem with.
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Amen thank you Ptr Vlad God bless you more❤🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I wish I had watched this a year ago. I went to seek advice from one of the leaders who I thought was my friend about what I was struggling with because the church hurt was caused by one of the lead pastors in the church. I went to her because I thought she might have dealt with it and knew what to do but she went and told the whole leadership in the church what I told her. The situation is out of control so I might have to leave. I wish I knew how to deal with it properly in the beginning. I can’t seem to get over it. I forgive but I still remember. It has resulted in me not trusting people in the church.
Friend, I had a very similar situation and I too didn’t handle it very well. I recommend that you continue in forgiveness in your heart and don’t let it become a root of bitterness in your heart as I did (I’ve repented of that and God has miraculously healed me), for that will lead you to sin. If you’re able to, when the Lord leads you, discuss it with the leadership and seek reconciliation (Matthew 5:23-24). Leave the results to God, but do your bit. If they won’t reconcile, you continue to walk in forgiveness. Someday it will all be clear.
@@arthurmagoola7808 thank you very much.
I’m submitting though I disagree on a few points at Church....I’m submitting because I need the Body of Christ more than my need to agree on every point I’m depending on the Cross on the Holy Spirit to in mercy sort us all out in kindness grace and revelation...Jesus help. amen 🙏
Thank you Ptr. Vlad for that message. I'm facing conflict in the ministry in our church.
Kindly pastor Vladimir talk about how to deal with toxic people as Christian ,especially if those kind of people are our friends spouse or family thankyou.
th-cam.com/video/qTafSefl_wY/w-d-xo.html I encourage you to hear this sermon, I talk about that topic there.
@@vladhungrygen thankyou
@@vladhungrygenPastor Vlad, my pastor is Calvinistic (people predestined for hell) the leaders and elders are many years younger than him and are still in need of deliverance. It’s been this way for many years. It’s a small church and the pastor is the owner also. He has no covering either. This is the only church in town that believes in the power of the Holy Spirit. I wanna leave but also want to serve!! Idk what to do 🙏🏼
What an amazing guy God made you bro.
Amen!! What an eye opener message to continue on serving Jesus! 🙌
Much needed encouragement for me pastor Vlad. Thank you so much Lord!!!! Thank you pastor!!!
Thanks for this message Pastor Vlad. It brings to closure something God has been teaching me over the last few weeks about a situation I faced with a church I used to attend. I didn’t handle it well, and I got very critical of the pastor for a long time over doctrine for which I could find no biblical basis. I preached to a different church earlier today on forgiveness from the heart according to Matthew 18, which I felt God put on my heart a while back, and I confessed my own transgressions to God and asked him to forgive me. I will be reaching out to this pastor to reconcile, and I believe we will, but I’ve found that keeping my focus on Jesus is way more important than being right doctrinally.
The only reason we get offended over anything is because of self centredness, and not because of what others do or say to us.
Thank you for this Pastor Vlad.
I'm going to use this to help those I know who are going through disagreements in the church. My husband has actually made it a point that if anyone comes into our home and speaks against the Pastor, church member or brethren from any other church, to not allow that conversation to continue and change the topic.
May God continue to bless and use you Pastor Vlad.
Woooww wow wow!! Jesuus! I really needed this!! Thank you!!! 😭😭🙏🏻
..this is helpful, cos the enemy’s agenda is to sow discord among believers. From now on my brother, you’ve become one of the few people I listen to. Love✝️❤️ from Africa
Thank you for this! It has blessed me.❤
Highly recommending Vlads devotion plans on bible app youversion interestingly enough Pastor Vlad was discussing unity among believers in one of his devotions I read this morning ...so very cool 😎 what a confirmation🔥 🕊
thank you Eva
What are you supposed to do if the person is a toxic narcissist and has been abusing you? Talking to a person who's abusing you allows them to perpetuate that abuse. You're advised to go no contact with that abusive person.
Thank you for sharing appreciate your strength & vulnerability in such a practical realistic personal experience.
This was really needed. Thank you for your wisdom and humility.
Glad it was helpful! God bless you.
Long time I waited this kind of sermon,, but now I got it, tq pastor Vlad...
Amen. Thanks Pastor 👍
As always you have great advice Pastor Vladimir!
Thank you and may God bless you and your family!🐑
Same to you.
Such a beautiful message, I am blessed. I pray for my small church and it's leaders. We are in need of supernatural courage to confront several issues and practice being gracious to one another. All the more that the appointed time is near. It's not easy to stick around with different kinds of imperfect people including me but I agree, we need to press on more to Jesus and let Him abide in us. I hope for resolution and reconciliation all in Jesus' name!
Thank you p vlad for this msg. Love you my precious brother you helping many in the body. I love Jesus and i love the church.
Thank you Pastor Vlad...from Nairobi Kenya 🇰🇪 I needed to hear this today one year later😊
Much needed topic! Thank You God Bless 🙏🏼
Thank you! I needed to hear this. Matthew and I have been praying for direction in regards to our church.
I love this message pastor Vlad it happen this church we need to backup prayers thank you
wow pastor Vlad i needed to hear this. i am so thankful for your truths. May God continue to Bless you.
amen
A timely word. Thank you brother.
Thank you Pastor !
I appreciate your message help me understand and answer my questions.
God bless you!
Thank you for the encouragement
This has been very helpful. Thank you so much Sir.
It is best to speak directly but what if the people you had conflicts with make fun of you when you forgive them and ask for their forgiveness in case you did something bad as well? Or a person might be not wanting ever to resolve the issue especially when that person can have different moods and for others sometimes it depends if they need something from you? You help many times and pressure yourself but then again at any small problem you get called terrible names? We let them go… if somebody likes me just for what I give, then it is obvious. Life goes on… we live and let live.
🇳🇬Thank you so much, this was very helpful
God bless you sir
Thank you for this video, i really needed to hear this.
I would love to be part of a church that has elders!
Great message, Pastor ! Thank you very much. God bless you
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Thanks brother. I'v found this very helpful.
Thank you Vlad, much needed 🙏 ❤
A lot of people don’t address this issue it should be more well known amongst us Christians.
Thank you so much! This was really helpful.
Read Mat. 18:15-18
Amen!!! 🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌 couldnt agree more!! 😊
In case the church does not have elders yet? What to do?
What if there is spiritual abuse
Listening to this again>>”This is not a cartel fight this is not a mafia” 😂 hahahah.
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What if there isn't a personal disagreement or doctrinal disagreement? What if the other person in church just doesn't show you love or has cut friendship ties with you. Are we supposed to hold the former church friend accountable for not showing you love?
As much as we want to be able to have closure with people who cut ties, we just have to let them go. It’s possible to continue to go to the same church but if the person is slandering you I’d say it’s okay to leave and go somewhere where you’re being valued.
God will hold them accountable.
Hi I have a question , need advice on hat do we do when we are trying to encourage a leader but continues to be negative I don’t want to stop talking to her she’s my friend but always negative
Hi pastor Vlad, can you speak on how to honor and forgive abusive parents?! Does forgiveness mean you're supposed to have a personal relationship with them, especially when that has never been established?!
I encourage you to hear th-cam.com/video/qTafSefl_wY/w-d-xo.html
thought is is more tailor for "couples" it applies to any type of relationships.
@@vladhungrygen Thank you ♡♡
Man this was good bro pastor. I'd like to speak with you sometime. I have pretty intense thing going could use some good counsel. I know your busy though. So keep on keeping on soldier. Jesus is Lord!
What happens when you have elders protecting and covering for a pastors miss conduct?
When a pastor preachers, any one of the congregation could get offended, but it could from inner insecurity of person, that gets triggered, when pastor says something.
That's the persons responsibility to go away and pray to God, before u open your mouth, then calmly speak to them privately after gods filtered your bad stuff
please pastor i want come to church for healing ..
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In our church it's women in office - i.e. being elders and pastors, we already have women deacons. We did drawing of lots for elders this past year and 5 women and 1 divorced man were drawn from the bag of names so not sure how to take that. Next up for debate in our denomination is the PRIDE agenda acceptance. When that happens I'm out!
amen!!!!! thank you very much pastor.....I am rebuke!!!!!!!
Pastor....can i have email messages from you? I am handling Bible Study..and i want to have a bible study lesson from you....Can i?
What if the leaders dont want to hear about it leaders are just bunch of bullies covering for each other anyone who rasises a issue gets labeled as a gossip and causing division and warned or kicked out of church?
How should an accusation against leader be properly handled
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He is quoting matthew 18 incorrectly. It does NOT say bring one more person. And it does NOT say to bring someone with authority
Then what does it say?
There is a situation going on in my church. One of the church leaders got angry with the pastor for a trivial issue. Then that person was caught lying and gossiping about our pastor to other church people, sending multiple emails, text messages to them. Pastor knows about and tried to resolve the issue talking to that person. It was useless. the situation brought division to the church, confusion and sadness. The conflict is kind of resolved in a superficial way as more facts about that person spreading lies and rumors come up. I am afraid we deal with mentally sick and possibly possessed person. This revelation was shocking. The pastor is hesitant to remove the person from the leadership position for the fear that it might cause misunderstanding from people who are not aware of this situation. I believe every pastor is tested for the ability to lead and handle such situations, to have courage to make wise and Biblical decisions. Being a pastor is not for the faint of heart.
My pastor is narcissistic and don’t want to listen to what I say because he thinks he’s a expert on everything. We’re fixing to leave that church we’ve been to for 21 years. My nerves can’t take the pastor anymore.
Where does the bible say to go to the board when there is a problem or conflict?? It doesnt!! The bible does say to go to the one you have a problem with.