A quick flight in the Blackbird Simulations Cessna 310R following the SP1 update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2022
- The Blackbird Simulations Cessna 310R in Microsoft Flight Simulator has received a service pack that fixes all manner of small bugs in the aircraft. I take it for a quick flight to see if it's still as good as I remember (it is!).
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Good video. Since I live in the USA, I do most of my sim flying there. My favorite states for scenery are Utah, Alaska and Hawaii. A nice tour of Utah is KGJT--KSGU--KEKO--KSLC--KPUC. In Alaska, most of the spectacular mountains and glaciers are within 100 miles of PANC. If you like volcanic mountains, then a good trip is flying from one island to the next from PANC all the way out the Aleutians to PATU.
Thanks for sharing!
I 'flew' this in FSX, P3D and now in MSFS. Such a fabulous aircraft to fly. I'm currently parked up at Delhi Airport VIDP on an Eastwards trip down to 'see' some friends in Rotorua NZRO from Elstree EGTR. I just wish that Microsoft/Asobo would get their finger out and get the update available in the Marketplace!
Edit: The following day, I opened MSFS, checked my Profile and sure enough there was SP1. Great stuff. Well done MS/Asobo - and Blackbird as well of course!
It's a great aircraft. I think I actually prefer the 414 though - mostly because it's easier to land :)
I bought it today and I love it. Thanks for the video too.
with theupdate now installed finally it is Fantastic Aeroplane now and good video thank you
You're welcome :)
Yes this is the last bird I will ever buy from the store if there’s an option to buy direct. It’s so nice getting constant updates to the 414 that I bought direct. Waiting for updates through Microsoft is ridiculous.
Yes, this a great plane. It's one of my main rides in FSE (the other being a TBM). The C310R can carry full seats with full fuel and, leaned out using that wonderful fuel flow gauge, I can get 1100-1200nm from MTOW cruising at about 195kn groundspeed +/- the wind and burning about 10gph/side. Good thing the engines sound so nice as such trips are 5-6 hours :D.
I have a few quibbles about technique here. From the manual, the cowl flaps vary automatically with speed so should be pushed in before engine start and left that way the whole flight. There's really no reason ever to close them because they're internal, behind the louvred panels on the nacelles, so mice can't get in there anyway. The flaps are split so really function only as airbrakes. Don't use them for takeoff at all (even at MTOW on a fairly short and reasonably high field). The 1st notch is to let you ride down the glideslope at 95 IAS while maintaining 15" MP (bottom of the green). Only use full flaps if as temporary extra braking if you're too high. And keep all 15" MP until the flare. You can't land with much nose-up or you'll hit the low-hanging boarding ladder, which goes up and down with the gear. So ride the power all the way down, start the (very small) flare, THEN reduce throttle at an altitude measured in inches. The mains should hit about 1/4 second before the nosewheel, which is the only way to land smoothly. The gear struts are very stiff due to the low-hanging boarding ladder so you must make contact almost level, just a hair nose-up, basically painting it on.
Anyway, I don't know anything about MilViz becoming Blackbird, and SP1 isn't yet available on MSFS Marketplace, which is where I got my C310R. But this is one of my favorite planes either way.
I'll have to do a long stream with it at some point.
I abandoned this for the 414 awaiting for a / the patch to arrive, which if I’m not mistaken was supposed to be shortly after it’s initial launch!? Anxious now to jump back into the cockpit and give it another go, particularly after watching this excellent video. Many thanks.
It's very, very good now.
Definitely my favourite piston-engined GA aircraft.
I think it's a tie with the 414 - I like them both.
@@jonbeckett I have flown the 414 quite a bit and it is nice to fly but the features this has puts it quite a bit above the 414 for me.
I like them both but the flight model on the 310's kinda wonky...
Hello ! So that was the aircraft you flew this morning (my time), I need to download the upgrade too.
It was :)
If you want to add some realism to your fligt:
After startup you check oil press, vacuum, alternator load.
You never start leaning the engine with full throttle at such low altitude.
Generally when reducing power you start from throttle first then props and mixture last.
When increasing you do mixture rich first.
I say in quite a lot of my videos that I don't do the procedural checks *because it's a simulator* (and because Carenado aircraft don't model ANY of that). The black square aircraft on the other hand... lol
I have both the 310 and 414. Both excellent. I guess I have to wait for the update as I purchased the 310 in the Marketplace. This plane does sink like a stone upon landing and I wonder if that is realistic... but what you said, I guess it is. I like flying this plane with the dual GTN 750 in the panels and a third from the dropdown menu. The 310 has in-cockpit WWT (Working Title Technology) to manage autopilot with the 750s. Now, Jonathan, if I can't fly this plane with three GTN 750s, I better hang it up! LOL. Of note though, I like the recent update on the 530 where it was telling you when it was going to turn.
It only sinks at about 90 knots - moral of the story - approach above 90 knots :)
If you ever watched the 310 Pilot channel, I'm pretty sure that is in fact realistic - also, it's the same way with the Digital Replica 310 in XP11 (haven't tried in 12 yet).
310 sinks in real life its a twin thing
@mike Coffee Props blow wind over wings, wind over wings makes lift. Reduce props...reduce lift. I get surprised when people don't realize this. Is referred to as a blown wing.
IRL, the C310 cannot maintain altitude on 1 engine with the gear down so, yeah, even with both engines, she's verging on brick mode all through the approach. Landing this plane smoothly takes some practice and also some paranoia because of how tight the envelope is in this phase. I did a BUNCH of autopilot ILS and then nonprecision RNAV approaches on clear days before I dared try landing totally by hand. This was to learn proper speed and power management, how and when to flare, and to get my eye calibrated for the glideslope angle and approach speed. But once you get used to it, landing the C310 is no harder than anything else. It's just different. And you need to know and have as non-thinking reflex what to do if you lose an engine at various key points along the approach, because you don't have time to think things through.
...a good presentation indeed of this magnificent light twin. I particularly like the graphics, the realistic sounds of the engines and the working systems. However I noted with interest that when you pulled back on prop and mixture levers for port engine it didn't stop; is that something that could be fixed to enable somebody practice asymmetric flight?
It's received a LOT of updates since I recorded - I think you can kill the engines now, and feather them correctly.
Reminds me of my flying days, only in a single engine PA 28 (out of High Wycombe not quiet as nice the Californian Hills) but the sounds on this plane in game are spot on and cockpit instruments a delight! Some real fidelity on those for sure.
Thanks for the showcase on updated aircraft. I need a better PC ideally to play MSFS as still only got my old GTX 970 atm
Highlight of the video, the truck driver on drugs driving back n forth on the road 👀
BTW what controllers are you using in msfs? 🤔
I have the Thrustmaster Airbus quadrant and stick
@@jonbeckett awesome yes been looking at the captain pack but I think a new one is coming out of stock at most places? - so if a new version comes hopefully with a discount I have to take the plunge! I watched your video now just recently on the settings - 👌
Joined up on your Virtual Airline in the hope for doing some of the flights and tours 🤞
Hi Jonathan, I've watched quite a few of your videos now and I do find them informative and very useful (little Navmap being one such example, I'd not heard of it before watching your videos, but boy does it help with the emersive experience!).
I'm a life long fan of MSFS, but never really taken the whole thing particularly seriously, but recently I have been inclined to do that and do things right. Can you give some tips as to what is the best way to get started with the sim, I don't mean how to take off, fly and land, I mean what are the best planes to start out with, what routes should I practice (short, medium etc.). Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I'm sure, won't just help me.
There is so much in a flight sim that it can be quite overwhelming for the beginner, once out of the training (there is no real guidance after that). Also, what assistance options settings do you recommend (or use yourself).
Cheers and do keep up the good work.
If you join virtualflight.online, we have tons of routes, etc setup so you can fly them, and get your flights marked by an automatic system :)
@@jonbeckett - Thanks Jonathan, I'll loolk into that.
Seems good, specifically the states…me with Digital Dementia, hard to remember everything
Heh - I love the idea of the flying club version, where it's been left in an unauthodox state.
Did they change names or something? I could've sworn this was from Milviz. Is it the same product??
Yes it is.
Yes - milviz became blackbird.
Save the 310!
I didn't know it was leaving ? :)
I’m new to MSFS what is that program that you’re using that has the map with the destinations?
LittleNavMap
@@jonbeckett sweet, thank you.
I wasn't able to get the propeller to stop windmilling after feathered. I am not sure why
A feathered prop shouldn’t stop windmilling. The point of feathering is to reduce drag. A prop that is stopped is not feathered and is inducing drag. It takes more than just looking at a prop to confirm the engine has failed. You cannot even rely on manifold pressure since there is still air moving through the cylinders.
Hi,
Can you give some guidance on flying the traffic pattern in this aircraft?
Thx Lee
How do you mean? It would depend on the airport - it's altitude, runway, pattern for the airfield, etc. The plane is relatively straightforward - just stay above 100 knots (it sinks like a brick below that speed) :)
@@jonbeckett
Thanks for the reply. I was just interested in aircraft configuration in each phase of pattern including distance in crosswind,downwind etc. And power settings etc
I'm good with the c172 and now want to master this doing it by the book.
Thx Lee
P.s love your videos
Does anyone know if or when this beautifully modeled aircraft will come over to Xbox?
No idea - sorry!
DON’T BUY THE XBOX SERIES X/S VERSION, YET! I was so excited buying it for my XBox series x, but the frustrations started when the GTN750 didn’t turn on. You will have it in the aircraft, but it won’t work. There’s 5 gps to chose, but if using the Xbox you will have to stick with the G530/430 and that’s it. But there’s hope, I guess. If it’s there, we’ll probably see an update soon, I hope.
Is it better now?
@@Posttraumaticgrowth It is much better now since I deleted all paid add ons in my XBox series X, including the GTN750, Milvis, Kodiak, etc. I also deleted 90% of World Updates that I'm not interested. I'm sorry for not having fun with those aircrafts with awesome details. But now I have no stuttering, no black screens and I learned to love the Beechcraft Air King 350. I hope Microsoft improves the new Xboxes.
@@RubinGnoni thanks for your answer and update, I find it still amazing it can fit in the xbox x specs sheet. Happy new year!
@@Posttraumaticgrowth Happy New Year!
Fantistique aircraft not to mention the video.
I appreciate the fiddler is worth his fee, but I don't see the $40 price tag as good value when that's not far off the cost of the entire sim.
Why should the cost of an aircraft add-on be related to the cost of the sim?
@@jonbeckett because what other yardstick exists against which to measure the value? I accept it is purely subjective whether you feel the price is reasonable, but do you, as a prolific youtuber, get the same value from owning the game as you do from owning that one aircraft? For me, the value proposition is very different because I've only just bought the game and have yet to experience flying anything other than a basic Cessna. But despite the difference, I would find it hard to justify £40 for something that has no intrinsic value, nor any value at all outside the game. I think this is a discussion for in the pub. If only I had time for the pub now I own the sim!
By the way, thanks for all your youtube content. I'm currently devouring it at an alarming rate and hope to join you on some of your regular multiplayer flights - just as soon as I get the hang of regularly landing without spilling my drink and learn to fly something that will keep up. Hmm, perhaps I need to buy the 310R.
@@pintokitkat A better yardstick to measure is “how much value do i get from spending the money on this aircraft vs spending it on something else with that $40. I’ll get hours and hours of enjoyment out of the aircraft. Or i can get a couple of 2-hour movies, a couple of mid-low tier dinners out, etc, all of which are enjoyed and done in just a few hours. I’ll take the aircraft, thank you very much! 🛩😃
I dont care what ppl say the flight model on the 310 is horrible. The plane bounces all around and drifts. The 414 is hands down better..
Having not flown the real thing, I can only go by what real pilots have said - and they seem to think they are both realistic.
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I'm not a huge fan of this aircraft. A lot of the buttons are hard to use with the mouse. The heading bug isn't very visible on the HSI. And worst of all, the flight dynamics need a lot of work. In an actual 310, when I roll off the throttle to land, I still have elevator authority and I am able to raise the nose and flare. With this model, the aircraft turns into a brick as soon as the power is reduced. This effects stalls and single-engine operations as well as landings. And that's a deal breaker for me. Sure, the graphics and sounds are nice. But I bought the plane to fly it. And now since the update, the engines will not stay running for me after startup. So over all, I'm not impressed. And that's too bad because I was really looking forward to it.
So do you actually fly a real 310? It would be good to get some camera recordings of real approaches to see what you're talking about. I've watched 310pilot on TH-cam, and he always seems to land above 100 knots.
Another. Great plane I can’t buy in xbox,,,grrrrrrrrrr
That's a shame...