This game as such a depressing ending... It's messed up from the binging to the end, this is the kind of deck I would love to see more often... a game that forces you to think and understand the story, the mechanics... The last chapiter is for me not as hard compared to all the other ones that you restarts 4or 5 times at least to understand it, this one is just really long, stressful and sometimes even excruciating, it feels like forever to make just some slight adjustments and this from the bottom of the mountain to the end, this music changing with every stage of the mountain also brings a heavier and heavier feeling that you might fail, have to restart this all, try to keep every one alive or leave some one behind to his death, every stage you ask yourself how you are going to be able to make it, how much you will still have to go through and if it is worth it or not, even Liam the man in front becomes almost crazed in the end and even breaks the 4rth wall ... and in the end... nothing you have ever done in the game mattered. You understand you are controlling the game, everything is your choice, you are the god watching on the characters of this game. I would love the same developers to make us learn more about it... maybe a sequel on the agent Ember, it could be great! And even more with this kind of soundtrack!
ultrarast Everything you have ever done in the game mattered, actually. Every trial, every failure created a new timeline in the endless ocean of time... Dunahrai, my friend.
Paul Tightbow And still it is an endless loop, whatever you do, the timelines will be the same, and the heroes will never be able to progress, everything leads to the same ending more or less, the hourglass has not been broken.
ultrarast Well, actually these timelines are not so similar as it seems. Heroes did different actions throughout every try, and that resulted in different timelines. We do not know what happens to Liam and crew after ending, don't we? Furthermore, death of any character do not stop flow of time, so universe keeps going in particular direction and evolves eventually. That's what I call progress. Still feel pity for Burden stuck in the time loop, though... P.S. Humans tend to enjoy the process more than results, don't they? Does result matter if you feel that you've done all right?
Paul Tightbow they most likely died but sure they might have survived, and the created time line... is... more or less the same: the ending of the last chapter is ALMOST the same as the binging, the only difference is, if xenolifer is a perpetual war (at least 20 years where the universe is fighting and resulting of this lots of home worlds are destroyed), and the Everdusk is simply an universe dominated by humans (slavery of any Xeno lifes AND also of most criminals and even civilians, also home worlds are destroyed in an other way as the empire takes all the resources of the planet then leave it to rot). Resulting of this Liam enter in both time lines the nebula, get to the top and tell burden to do the opposite of what he has chose against Liam. Creating an other loop. shit this game is a torture for human mind in it's way...
+ultrarast Did you remember what Liam said on the top of the mountain ? "I saw the tries of burden.", 'He had to eat his companions to survive most of the time ! haha." "But sometimes it was fair, even if often it was just sick." (I'm traducing from my language so that's not what he exactly said.... Though.) Burden tried, he failed.. .Many, many times. But he just began all over again because he knew he was doing something in the end. Just to beat Liam, Just to save 4 000 000 000 Peoples ? No.... In the end of the chapter nemesis, after the credits. You can see him go all other again. He just knew that he had to do this. Save the universe and become legendary. Even if the last note of this game is put onto a darker tone, I think there is still hope for everyone, for Donald,Jack,Burden. There is no good choice. Just a final decision.
I thought the main Gods Will be Watching Soundtrack is good bit the Last Chapter Soundtrack reached just a new level, reached something in me, I accidentaly bought the complete compilation in order just to get this.
May contain spoilers [Original Difficulty] I sat on my ass, and said; "I did mostly everything, but this fucking mountain... It takes near 2 hours to climb it completely, if im going to do it. Im going to do it everyone alive, otherwise it wouldn't be so "completed" without getting any achivements out of it." I started climbing, getting a better understanding on the mechanics with it. Some say its not worth to take the first shrine, The Comitment Stone... I did take it however. I didn't see how it saved me completely at first, we'll get to that... I kept climbing and climbing the rush of exhaustion came to me. It could have been minutes, or a hour, or more. Every stage i felt that i was getting closer. Without the characters suffering too much of the cold and the stamina. I eventually reached the final stage, the space level. Liam lost it, but with him, i did too. Dr. Zenész was suffering from cold. Units of the Igniter was near end too. I didn't had time to take care of his cold. I was out of shots as well. Eventually igniter ran out of units... The only thing that could save me at that time ran out of units. With Dr. Zenész getting colder, i saw that text.. 'Igniter Ran Out of Units' I would complete the chapter for %100. But without the achivement it would all be for nothing for me. I saw the only option that you can click when the units are out... "'We're Fucked..." I desperetly checked his situation, only to see he WILL die. Only if there were just one less turn to climb it, i could have done it. But then, i remembered he will die right before the end dialogue. Maybe he won't die, just maybe... I kept clicking to skip turns "Keep Climbing" "Keep Climbing" "Keep Climbing" i came to that final turn, the turn that Dr. Zenész had %10 Warmth (and looses %15 every turn.) This, was the last turn. I prayed to the god who have been watching me all along, for him to not die, in that just one single turn. I said "Keep Climbing" for the final time. The dlc was over, i reached the top... So what happened to Dr. Zenész? Did he die? Did i lost my 2 hours of progress? Let me tell you this: Remember "The Commitment Stone"? makes the maximum amount of stamina and warmth you can get "%110" insted of "%100"... Also i want you to remember that Dr. Zenész had only %10 Warmth left before the final dialogue... Yeah.. About that.. i.imgur.com/hk46HHw.png
Question; when you were given to option to teleport shaman to the top of the mountain, what did you choose? I chose to opt out of it because I figured he’d die due to the cold, being injured, and without warmth of the igniter (even though he didn’t have a status). I always wondered if it was a good idea
i think I'm going to make a gif of the various stages of climbing and set it as my phone background. complete with fatigue states worsening with each stage
@@santiagohernandez602 You need to use screen capture software to record them climbing the mountain such as OBS. Then you need to cut the videos together and export it to a gif in a video editing program (at 720p it will be a very large file). Then you need to use an app such as gif live wallpaper to turn it into a live wallpaper. When i tried doing it i discovered that there wasn't a loop with the trees and Rocks going by while you climb, is random so you have to use fades if you want a smooth transition or just want one climbing stage to loop endlessly.
This game is...a masterwork, everything is at least good Story : a very, very, very LARGE blackground, with a ton of well-writed character, and not only burden, or jack,every character are, xenolifer is'nt writed as the justice warriors, it's not binary as well. The true enemy in the lore is actually the federation, and between this there only one guy, burden, traped in a time loop because the reality is we are the gods, we saw every lifes burden lived. we saw every fail, every wins, every choices he did, the game is pretty,pretty pretty nihilstic, cynic, and sarcastic as well, and is'nt even hard, the studio who did GWBW did a well job, the difficulty is here but not too much, just enough to know you can fail a lot, but it's logic, burden HAVE to lose, the only reason that he win is because before he died a lot enough to know what to do and to don't do., and the ost are ....perfectly matched with the game, the only game i know who did a perfect match between gameplay and musics are subnautica And this DLC...it's the apotheosis. You can feel how it's hard to climb this montain, each time you are like ''come on jack, stand here, don't die, it will end soon you can do it !'' and here again, the ost matched perfectly, you can feel the intensity growing all along you climb the mountain, while liam progressively loosing his mind,and even breaking the 4th wall. And finally the ending, and the ending is PERFECT. Not an happy ending, not a bad ending, just the reality. There's no hero here, but there's no vilain. Only guys who need justice. like liam, who need to be free,like burden, who need to set free his race, like shaman, or take away their regrets, like donald and sarah or find a sense in his life, like zenez. Or find a old friend, like jack A truly nice game FOR THE HOLISTIC EMPIRE !
Does anyone else find the game easy now? I played in Original difficultly and now replaying it with the same difficulty it’s pretty easy I laugh thinking of how much of a pain the game was and still laugh with newcomers needing help cause we’ve all been there
There is a trick to every chapter. Remember the trick and the chapter is easy: Chapter 1: Don't worry about losing hostages as long as you have one. One or two hostages is extremely easy to manage. Chapter 2: Always pick painkillers. Always provoke with the character that isn't on the wall. Chapter 3: Always use lethal doses on Donald. He never dies somehow. Chapter 4: Get a bunch of antidotes and then let everyone except Marvin, Jack and BR4AD0N. Chapter 5 : Always keep everyone completely hydrated at all times. Always only scout one moment ahead. Attack bases if you find them. Use your transponder after every move. Rest until everyone is at 100% at every opportunity unless you already did so 3 moves or less ago. Always alternate directions every move if you can. Chapter 6: Only use hit, pursuade and offer freedom. Get the passwords in this order Wouter, Ford, Frank/Claire then Shaman last. Don't hit Shaman, Ford or the kid. Always let someone go when you get a password. Make sure Shaman is alone when you try to pursuade him. Chapter 7: Always block when liam might kick or block it's not worth the risk to feign. Puch red fist, feign yellow fist, dodge everything else appropriately.
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Thanks to Decaying Winter for introducing me to this masterpiece of a game
I had a heart attack when Liam referred to my steam name.
Same! I wished I could have seen my face! XD
what?
LIMBO XP
You haven't played it did ya?
Léo Goutenoir I have completed 4 times now, I always skip the dialogue so I don't know
LIMBO XP
You realize that the story is a big part of the game? And it's very interresting BTW.
legends say that Jack is still carrying shaman..
They used Donald's hair to judge the direction of the wind.
To this day... I'll never stop listening to this beautiful soundtrack 😔
climbing a mountain has never sounded so awesome
This game as such a depressing ending... It's messed up from the binging to the end, this is the kind of deck I would love to see more often... a game that forces you to think and understand the story, the mechanics...
The last chapiter is for me not as hard compared to all the other ones that you restarts 4or 5 times at least to understand it, this one is just really long, stressful and sometimes even excruciating, it feels like forever to make just some slight adjustments and this from the bottom of the mountain to the end, this music changing with every stage of the mountain also brings a heavier and heavier feeling that you might fail, have to restart this all, try to keep every one alive or leave some one behind to his death, every stage you ask yourself how you are going to be able to make it, how much you will still have to go through and if it is worth it or not, even Liam the man in front becomes almost crazed in the end and even breaks the 4rth wall ... and in the end... nothing you have ever done in the game mattered.
You understand you are controlling the game, everything is your choice, you are the god watching on the characters of this game.
I would love the same developers to make us learn more about it... maybe a sequel on the agent Ember, it could be great! And even more with this kind of soundtrack!
ultrarast Everything you have ever done in the game mattered, actually. Every trial, every failure created a new timeline in the endless ocean of time... Dunahrai, my friend.
Paul Tightbow And still it is an endless loop, whatever you do, the timelines will be the same, and the heroes will never be able to progress, everything leads to the same ending more or less, the hourglass has not been broken.
ultrarast Well, actually these timelines are not so similar as it seems. Heroes did different actions throughout every try, and that resulted in different timelines. We do not know what happens to Liam and crew after ending, don't we? Furthermore, death of any character do not stop flow of time, so universe keeps going in particular direction and evolves eventually. That's what I call progress. Still feel pity for Burden stuck in the time loop, though...
P.S. Humans tend to enjoy the process more than results, don't they? Does result matter if you feel that you've done all right?
Paul Tightbow they most likely died but sure they might have survived, and the created time line... is... more or less the same: the ending of the last chapter is ALMOST the same as the binging, the only difference is, if xenolifer is a perpetual war (at least 20 years where the universe is fighting and resulting of this lots of home worlds are destroyed), and the Everdusk is simply an universe dominated by humans (slavery of any Xeno lifes AND also of most criminals and even civilians, also home worlds are destroyed in an other way as the empire takes all the resources of the planet then leave it to rot).
Resulting of this Liam enter in both time lines the nebula, get to the top and tell burden to do the opposite of what he has chose against Liam. Creating an other loop. shit this game is a torture for human mind in it's way...
+ultrarast Did you remember what Liam said on the top of the mountain ? "I saw the tries of burden.", 'He had to eat his companions to survive most of the time ! haha." "But sometimes it was fair, even if often it was just sick." (I'm traducing from my language so that's not what he exactly said.... Though.)
Burden tried, he failed.. .Many, many times. But he just began all over again because he knew he was doing something in the end. Just to beat Liam, Just to save 4 000 000 000 Peoples ? No....
In the end of the chapter nemesis, after the credits. You can see him go all other again. He just knew that he had to do this. Save the universe and become legendary.
Even if the last note of this game is put onto a darker tone, I think there is still hope for everyone, for Donald,Jack,Burden. There is no good choice. Just a final decision.
Does anyone new play this game nowdays? It amazes me how much time has gone since i last completed it. Such a great game, so few players...
I started to play the game 4 days ago and finished it today, game was amazing. Decaying winter helped this game gain some new players.
@@verywaterso yoo DW fan
It destroys me on the inside every day that absolutely nobody heard of this game when it came out.
I keep remembering this game and this DLC, I even made a text based online RPG off it
@@FlymanMS whaaat
Sounds weird in a good way. Did you finish it?
I was looking for this literally all of the past three days. Thank you for this.
BlueStorm46 Glad to help, you can download the entire OST in the link in the description. It's a divine soundtrack
I thought the main Gods Will be Watching Soundtrack is good bit the Last Chapter Soundtrack reached just a new level, reached something in me, I accidentaly bought the complete compilation in order just to get this.
May contain spoilers
[Original Difficulty]
I sat on my ass, and said; "I did mostly everything, but this fucking mountain... It takes near 2 hours to climb it completely, if im going to do it. Im going to do it everyone alive, otherwise it wouldn't be so "completed" without getting any achivements out of it." I started climbing, getting a better understanding on the mechanics with it. Some say its not worth to take the first shrine, The Comitment Stone... I did take it however. I didn't see how it saved me completely at first, we'll get to that... I kept climbing and climbing the rush of exhaustion came to me. It could have been minutes, or a hour, or more. Every stage i felt that i was getting closer. Without the characters suffering too much of the cold and the stamina. I eventually reached the final stage, the space level. Liam lost it, but with him, i did too. Dr. Zenész was suffering from cold. Units of the Igniter was near end too. I didn't had time to take care of his cold. I was out of shots as well. Eventually igniter ran out of units... The only thing that could save me at that time ran out of units. With Dr. Zenész getting colder, i saw that text.. 'Igniter Ran Out of Units' I would complete the chapter for %100. But without the achivement it would all be for nothing for me. I saw the only option that you can click when the units are out... "'We're Fucked..." I desperetly checked his situation, only to see he WILL die. Only if there were just one less turn to climb it, i could have done it. But then, i remembered he will die right before the end dialogue. Maybe he won't die, just maybe...
I kept clicking to skip turns "Keep Climbing" "Keep Climbing" "Keep Climbing" i came to that final turn, the turn that Dr. Zenész had %10 Warmth (and looses %15 every turn.) This, was the last turn. I prayed to the god who have been watching me all along, for him to not die, in that just one single turn. I said "Keep Climbing" for the final time. The dlc was over, i reached the top... So what happened to Dr. Zenész? Did he die? Did i lost my 2 hours of progress?
Let me tell you this:
Remember "The Commitment Stone"? makes the maximum amount of stamina and warmth you can get "%110" insted of "%100"...
Also i want you to remember that Dr. Zenész had only %10 Warmth left before the final dialogue...
Yeah.. About that..
i.imgur.com/hk46HHw.png
incredibly based and well played.
Question; when you were given to option to teleport shaman to the top of the mountain, what did you choose? I chose to opt out of it because I figured he’d die due to the cold, being injured, and without warmth of the igniter (even though he didn’t have a status). I always wondered if it was a good idea
@@Clone4082 I recall I did make him poof up on the mountain, didn't have consequences. (I RECALL)
@@Clone4082 it's a bait, nothing happened for me, i kept shaman and i had to deal with it all along the final stand
I was reading your comment with Commitment playing in my earphones and it was epic
Amazing! "Sacrifice" theme is especially touching and my favourite in this list
I never knew that climbing a mountain could be so epic..
i think I'm going to make a gif of the various stages of climbing and set it as my phone background. complete with fatigue states worsening with each stage
how do i do that
@@santiagohernandez602 You need to use screen capture software to record them climbing the mountain such as OBS. Then you need to cut the videos together and export it to a gif in a video editing program (at 720p it will be a very large file). Then you need to use an app such as gif live wallpaper to turn it into a live wallpaper. When i tried doing it i discovered that there wasn't a loop with the trees and Rocks going by while you climb, is random so you have to use fades if you want a smooth transition or just want one climbing stage to loop endlessly.
This game is...a masterwork, everything is at least good
Story : a very, very, very LARGE blackground, with a ton of well-writed character, and not only burden, or jack,every character are, xenolifer is'nt writed as the justice warriors, it's not binary as well. The true enemy in the lore is actually the federation, and between this there only one guy, burden, traped in a time loop because the reality is we are the gods, we saw every lifes burden lived. we saw every fail, every wins, every choices he did, the game is pretty,pretty pretty nihilstic, cynic, and sarcastic as well, and is'nt even hard, the studio who did GWBW did a well job, the difficulty is here but not too much, just enough to know you can fail a lot, but it's logic, burden HAVE to lose, the only reason that he win is because before he died a lot enough to know what to do and to don't do., and the ost are ....perfectly matched with the game, the only game i know who did a perfect match between gameplay and musics are subnautica
And this DLC...it's the apotheosis. You can feel how it's hard to climb this montain, each time you are like ''come on jack, stand here, don't die, it will end soon you can do it !'' and here again, the ost matched perfectly, you can feel the intensity growing all along you climb the mountain, while liam progressively loosing his mind,and even breaking the 4th wall.
And finally the ending, and the ending is PERFECT.
Not an happy ending, not a bad ending, just the reality. There's no hero here, but there's no vilain. Only guys who need justice. like liam, who need to be free,like burden, who need to set free his race, like shaman, or take away their regrets, like donald and sarah or find a sense in his life, like zenez. Or find a old friend, like jack
A truly nice game
FOR THE HOLISTIC EMPIRE !
yessir
This could be a great animated wallpaper
Great soundtrack. It has that sense of sorrow throughout.
This was beautiful, thanks for posting.
Does anyone else find the game easy now? I played in Original difficultly and now replaying it with the same difficulty it’s pretty easy I laugh thinking of how much of a pain the game was and still laugh with newcomers needing help cause we’ve all been there
Pratice makes perfect
There is a trick to every chapter. Remember the trick and the chapter is easy:
Chapter 1: Don't worry about losing hostages as long as you have one. One or two hostages is extremely easy to manage.
Chapter 2: Always pick painkillers. Always provoke with the character that isn't on the wall.
Chapter 3: Always use lethal doses on Donald. He never dies somehow.
Chapter 4: Get a bunch of antidotes and then let everyone except Marvin, Jack and BR4AD0N.
Chapter 5 : Always keep everyone completely hydrated at all times. Always only scout one moment ahead. Attack bases if you find them. Use your transponder after every move. Rest until everyone is at 100% at every opportunity unless you already did so 3 moves or less ago. Always alternate directions every move if you can.
Chapter 6: Only use hit, pursuade and offer freedom. Get the passwords in this order Wouter, Ford, Frank/Claire then Shaman last. Don't hit Shaman, Ford or the kid. Always let someone go when you get a password. Make sure Shaman is alone when you try to pursuade him.
Chapter 7: Always block when liam might kick or block it's not worth the risk to feign. Puch red fist, feign yellow fist, dodge everything else appropriately.
GOD is this beautiful. thanks!
Amazing soundtrack ..
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