One of the most saddest scene of 2. season. Poor Ayse. I fully supported her what she did. Murad was cruel and stupid. Murad destroy almost everything he touched. In the end that stupid Farya win but her end will be very soon. At least Kösem took revenge for Ayse.
I agree with you. I can't imagine the pain Ayse was in when she gave her kids the poison and then drank it herself. This scene and Gevherhan's death are so sad.
@@yusufbey9634feminists are at large in this comment section. They don’t even realize how stupid they sound talking about sympathy for child murder. Unbelievable
Poor Ayse, both in the show and history was a character with a sad fate ( even if they butchered her in history, I always wonder if Murad love Ayse and so like mens and womens, or if he reluctantly had relations with his concubines but held Ayse in very high esteem, a real mystery. But he respects her highly ). And I understand why Ayse did this, as we know Murad. She make mistakes but was caught because she try to fix them as she felt so guilty over Gulbahar's inhuman move. My girl Ayse, you will miss me.
Murad had complex personality irl.But probably he really loved Ayse. I think their relationship was something like Ahmed and Kosem. Murad wanted to return the fratricide law back and wanted to be like Selim I,so even though he loved Ayse he had concubines and other sons (because they died very young,even before reaching their 1 year). But Ayse wasn't his only concubine and mother of all his children(as some say). Ayse was his favouritie and haseki,but it's impossible for Ayse to give birth to more than 20 children. Besides Kaya,Ayse surely had other sons and daughters but it's unknown who were her other children. But she surely wasn't mother of all children. Some children were born in Topkapi,when Murad was on campaign,and Ayse was with him too. Now about comparing with Ahmed,he was also complex,and he didn't hate his mother and Murad also didn't hate his mother too. Kosem was also Ahmed's favourite,but Ahmed also had other concubines and children to secure the throne too. But there is difference between Ahmed I and Murad IV. Ahmed consider Suleiman as his heir,while Murad-Selim I. And they didn't really let their hasekis to be politically active. Kosem and Ayse seemed to be ambitious and power hungry but they hide their true personality. Even though maybe Ahmed knew it about Kosem,because of Osman's case and Handan knew it about Kosem and Kosem about Ayse. Also Murad taking Ayse to his campaigns it's mysterious too. And i think that's why some said that Ayse was behind the death of Bayezid and Suleiman. It's just the same case as Despina Hatun and Bayezid I. Statesmens acused Despina for the influence she had on Bayezid. Also the mysterious things about Ahmed I and Murad IV are Mahfiruze and the anonymous second haseki sultan of Murad IV. Probably,Mahfiruze was second favourite of Ahmed I(ofc not like Kosem). And i don't think that he followed his father on this matter. Handan was Mehmed's favourite in Manisa,as well as Halime,but then when he become sultan he favoured Halime and Handan lost his favour,and Safiye was jealous of Halime's influence too,and we know what happened later. Also,Mustafa II had 2 favourities:Afife and Shehsuvar,similar case as Ahmed I. They were treated fhighly as favourities in the harem,but they weren't hasekis,because Gulnus forbid it. Saliha was also his concubine,but she wasn't favourite. It was something like Hurrem and Mahidevran,in the Old Palace,but her between 3(Afife,Shehsuvar-Saliha) Maybe that's why after Mustafa's death Gulnus immediately married Afife to her loyal man. And about the second anonymous haseki sultan of Murad IV,she probably wasn't his favourite. He increased her salary(more than Ayse's) because she was pregnant and give birth to the last son of Murad IV.But then after 7 months,her salary was reduced probably because the baby boy died. And also the second haseki died before Murad(it's unknown the cause). About the second haseki she wasn't georgian princess named Semsisah,and she wasn't Murad's legal wife,as some imposters spred this. She was slave origin cocnubine,who is noted by some to be Sicilian noblewoman who was captured and then was send by gift to Murad by the Algerian beylerbey.
@@drfhgs428 Yes agree with all you poin t except to one. I don't think so that Kosem was power hungry ( at least until she face all tragedy) I mean she didn't have any objection that Murad abolished her tittle of regent and she was resigned to him leading alone. I think that although Ahmed and Murad trusted their mothers, they wanted to keep an image of an independent Sultan (especially as the title became less and less respected). So nothing personal here ( even if we know that what pushed Murad to to establish its authority definitively and started to locked his brothers was the jannisary revolt who killed his Grand Vizier and other people. We don't have either proof that Ayse was power hungry but who can blame her if she dream to be Valide ( plus it seems that she really love Murad)? Yes Murad had a complex personnality, but show butchered him ( but when I think he like Ayse I always wonder if he like only mens or like womens and mens. No matter he highly appreciated and respected Ayse).
@@nesiacha3659 Yes I agree about Kosem and Ayse,they weren't power hungry at all. They were ambitious and have in common a lot. Also I agree about Ahmed I and Murad IV,yes they trusted their mothers,but they wanted to create an image of independent sultans, as the title was falling slowly. I also agree about the Janissary revolt. I think that Handan,Kosem and Ayse had something in common,like Safiye and Halime Comparing them to Safiye and Halime,they didn't show their ambitions and true personality openly, weren't eager to have so much power, they were patient, and hid their plans well, so that's why they didn't lose favour as Safiye and Halime had(except Handan in terms of favour,but it's different and Kosem in the end became like Safiye and Halime but we know the reason)and Ayse couldn't achieved but still similar. Also the same with Hurrem and Gulnus comparing them to Safiye and Halime-they were patient too, and acted more smarter(especially Gulnus). And there is also Turhan, Gulnus and Saliha(they are something similar as Handan,Kosem and Ayse),they were ambitious, some were power hungry(Gulnus and Saliha),but they acted with patience, understanding and without vengeance(even though Turhan Gulnus and Saliha had reasons for that). Also it will be interesting to know why Handan lost her favour when Mehmed become sultan,for example there were similar cases too:like Halime Hatun-first wife of Murad II(who was his favourite wife too) was exiled in Bursa for short time but return later in Edrine ,and it seems that Halime had rivalry with Mara Hatun(who was said that Murad became so devoted to her and she become his favourite wife instead of Halime, also it seems that Mara befrended Huma there and Mehmed who also disliked Halime too),also Mara was exiled too but returned back like Halime, there is also example when Shevkeza Sultan because of jealousy made things up about Serfiraz Hanim(who was able to influence Abdulmejid I)that she had affair with palace guardian, and with this she destroyed her reputation, yes Shevkeza was the one who locked Pertevniyal and Abdulhamid disliked his stepmother Shevkeza,also Shevkeza tried to enthrone her son 2 times, and also Meleksima Hatun who was favourite and legal wife of Osman II,lost her rank and status and was exiled in Edrine Palace because Osman blamed her for their son's death. Interesting fact about Pertevniyal and Shevkeza: it seems that they both practised witchcraft and put spells against each other, lol.Their rivalry is more interestining than Safiye and Halime or Nurbanu and Safiye,lol. Yes,the show totally butchered Murad as character. Probably he liked both mens and womans.
Ayse as character had a big potential. Also Leyla fit the role well. The same thing for Dilara(actress of Mahfiruze),like Leyla. Unlike Tulin who totally didn't fit the role of Handan and Hande who totally didn't fit the role of Turhan. Instead of them they should have shown Sibel(the actress of Gulbahar)as Handan,and Asli(the actress of Gevherhan)as Turhan. About Turhan,also Yasemin(the actress of Defne),but Asli will fit better in that role. They will have fit those roles well. Gulbahar,Iskender and Farya's plots should be excluded. Not only because they didn't exist,but their plots were illogical. Show Murad wasn't portraited well too.They made him 2 version of Suleiman. Even though Metin had potential,like Leyla,that's fault of writers. Show versions of Murad and Ayse were very different than real ones. But the most masacared characters in negative way were Handan and Ayse. Probably the real Handan and Ayse are cursing the writers,lol.
Agree about all you said but I think that every historical characters cursed the writters XD. For the moment the show Fatih is one of the few show who represented well the concubines ( except the villainization to Gulbahar but at least they represent her as a strong character). For the choice of the actress of Turhan Asli is better in that role( I would rather make Yasemin as Mahidevran even if Nur Fettahoğlu was incredible in her role because I see more Mahidevran as blonde women with the apparence of the actress of Yasemin. In addition to her intelligence Mahidevran was also very beautiful and even if the actress is beautiful, it was not the same beauty as I imagined so I was disapointed when I see the first appareance of Mahi. But I think that the fault lies more with the writers, they should have worked on the appearance differently of Nur). After I say that but the goal is not to attack the appearance of the actresses (I did not like like everyone else when some precisely attacked the actresses on their appearance let's be clear)
@@nesiacha3659 Yes,Fatih is the only show who portrayed the concubines well. Gulbahar was shown as villain,but also as strong willed woman(there is something accurate),as she was. Not a crybaby,thankfully. Idk really about Mahidervan,I imagine real Hafsa as Nebahat and real Mahidevran as Nur. I don't think that Mahidevran was blonde,but I don't know really. I think Nur played Mahidevran well. But it's writers fault ofc like the other characters too. About historical Mahidevran,I also think that she had black hair and green eyes or that she was like Nur. I also don't have goal to attack the appearances of the actresses, I was comparing with the historical figures and honestly Sibel and Asli in their roles have more in common with historical Handan and Turhan. Ofc Turhan wasn't crybaby like Gevherhan(in the show),but still Asli would fit the role of Turhan,and Handan wasn't vicious like Gulbahar, but still Sibel will fit Handan. I think that Tulin and Hande will fit more a role of imperial sultanas,not Valide Sultanas.
@@drfhgs428 Yes agree with you. Yes we will never know the true appareance of Mahidevran ( except she was beautiful). To be fair I really like Geverhan in the show and I don't think she was a cry baby in the show ( this is more for Atike show) but yet they butchered her. But a good reason to make Mahi a blonde is for a better parrellel with Turhan ( I think that Mahidevran and Turhan got one of the most important parrellel) as I imagine Turhan in blonde too... For Fatih, yes agree but still frustrating that they make Gulbahar a villains when she was not but she is a better character than a lot of MC show characters concubines.
@@nesiacha3659 Yes we will never know how Mahidevran looked like,except that she was said to be outstanding beauty. Yes but Turhan wasn't blonde either. She is described well as some traveler had dared to open the cariage when she was accompanying her son on campaigns. Also several ambassadors besides the traveller had noted that Turhan was very tall,had chestnut hair and blue eyes. But there can be found parallel between Safiye and Kosem(even though it's not surely,but some had said that they were blondes),and Nurbanu and Gulnus too were described by ambassadors(it was said that they were tall,and had black hair and black eyes). Yes in Fatih they made Gulbahar and Bayezid villains,lol. But still Gulbahar was better than a lot of other MC show concubines. I don't know why they didn't show Gulshah Hatun(mother of Mustafa)they made her dead,also Mukrime Hatun, Helena Hatun, Anna Hatun and Hatice Hatun. But still Cicek Hatun was portrayed well.
@@drfhgs428 For Turhan some source said that she is blonde but maybe the several ambassadors have interpreted facts knowing that the Valide had to be completely veiled (even if it is probable since many of them say that it is chustnair). The problem is that we know that ambassadors sometimes tend to invent or misinterpret the facts (Mahidevran beat Hurrem, Halime was killed with her son Mahmud, etc...). Yes I saw the show in Spanish sub about Fatih but I miss the last episode. Frankly it's better than MC but as you say it lacks too many important characters, Sultan Mehmed is heroic compared to reality, as usual we blame the victim (Gulbahar) but apart from that it's a great not in historical progress (although MC is more recent so we are in regression XD). I don't know if you managed to watch the entire Roxelana show because I couldn't.
if you mean around 25:23 ish/that segment, it's Var Git Olum by Artekin Atas. (The song name has umlauts I can't add rn over the O and U of Olum.) it's on spotify and apple music that I found. (looked through all the soundtracks vol 1/2 for MCK and then finally used shazam from my phone and boom, it immediately knew. magic.)
For a mom to kill her own children? Clearly this is a radical feminist making a fool out of themselves as usual. She did infact kill his child with farya. So it’s his fault because he’s a man right? Lol get lost lady If a woman killed one of my children from a previous relationship yes you bet yourself I would do everything legally to keep her away from my children as she is not stable to raise kids. Lol didn’t know feminists think child murder is okay. 😂
Farya did nothing wrong! Ayse acted like Mahidevran when she allied with Gulbahar, only to hurt Murad and Farya! She did a horrible thing by putting the city to fire, even thought the people deserved it for what it did to Osman! Murad had the right to leave Ayse for Farya, as much as Suleyman left Mahidevran for Hurrem!
Of course people can leave for another partner, but Mahidevran and Ayse were still kept slaves. Suleiman and Murad should let them go and be happy. I'm not saying they did good, but their fate was terrible
One of the most saddest scene of 2. season. Poor Ayse. I fully supported her what she did. Murad was cruel and stupid. Murad destroy almost everything he touched. In the end that stupid Farya win but her end will be very soon. At least Kösem took revenge for Ayse.
I agree with you. I can't imagine the pain Ayse was in when she gave her kids the poison and then drank it herself. This scene and Gevherhan's death are so sad.
support?? she committed suicide and killed her kids 😂
All fictional
@@dipanwitadasgupta5221 No one cares.
@@yusufbey9634feminists are at large in this comment section. They don’t even realize how stupid they sound talking about sympathy for child murder. Unbelievable
R.I.P. Ayse,Hanzade and Ahmed.
Farya will soon get her karma.
Her end will be like Halime and Dilruba.
Yes, thankfully.
Pure kids. Poor newborn.
Poor Ayse, both in the show and history was a character with a sad fate ( even if they butchered her in history, I always wonder if Murad love Ayse and so like mens and womens, or if he reluctantly had relations with his concubines but held Ayse in very high esteem, a real mystery. But he respects her highly ).
And I understand why Ayse did this, as we know Murad. She make mistakes but was caught because she try to fix them as she felt so guilty over Gulbahar's inhuman move. My girl Ayse, you will miss me.
Murad had complex personality irl.But probably he really loved Ayse.
I think their relationship was something like Ahmed and Kosem.
Murad wanted to return the fratricide law back and wanted to be like Selim I,so even though he loved Ayse he had concubines and other sons (because they died very young,even before reaching their 1 year).
But Ayse wasn't his only concubine and mother of all his children(as some say).
Ayse was his favouritie and haseki,but it's impossible for Ayse to give birth to more than 20 children.
Besides Kaya,Ayse surely had other sons and daughters but it's unknown who were her other children.
But she surely wasn't mother of all children.
Some children were born in Topkapi,when Murad was on campaign,and Ayse was with him too.
Now about comparing with Ahmed,he was also complex,and he didn't hate his mother and Murad also didn't hate his mother too.
Kosem was also Ahmed's favourite,but Ahmed also had other concubines and children to secure the throne too.
But there is difference between Ahmed I and Murad IV.
Ahmed consider Suleiman as his heir,while Murad-Selim I.
And they didn't really let their hasekis to be politically active.
Kosem and Ayse seemed to be ambitious and power hungry but they hide their true personality.
Even though maybe Ahmed knew it about Kosem,because of Osman's case and Handan knew it about Kosem and Kosem about Ayse.
Also Murad taking Ayse to his campaigns it's mysterious too.
And i think that's why some said that Ayse was behind the death of Bayezid and Suleiman.
It's just the same case as Despina Hatun and Bayezid I.
Statesmens acused Despina for the influence she had on Bayezid.
Also the mysterious things about Ahmed I and Murad IV are Mahfiruze and the anonymous second haseki sultan of Murad IV.
Probably,Mahfiruze was second favourite of Ahmed I(ofc not like Kosem).
And i don't think that he followed his father on this matter.
Handan was Mehmed's favourite in Manisa,as well as Halime,but then when he become sultan he favoured Halime and Handan lost his favour,and Safiye was jealous of Halime's influence too,and we know what happened later.
Also,Mustafa II had 2 favourities:Afife and Shehsuvar,similar case as Ahmed I.
They were treated fhighly as favourities in the harem,but they weren't hasekis,because Gulnus forbid it.
Saliha was also his concubine,but she wasn't favourite.
It was something like Hurrem and Mahidevran,in the Old Palace,but her between 3(Afife,Shehsuvar-Saliha)
Maybe that's why after Mustafa's death Gulnus immediately married Afife to her loyal man.
And about the second anonymous haseki sultan of Murad IV,she probably wasn't his favourite.
He increased her salary(more than Ayse's) because she was pregnant and give birth to the last son of Murad IV.But then after 7 months,her salary was reduced probably because the baby boy died.
And also the second haseki died before Murad(it's unknown the cause).
About the second haseki she wasn't georgian princess named Semsisah,and she wasn't Murad's legal wife,as some imposters spred this.
She was slave origin cocnubine,who is noted by some to be Sicilian noblewoman who was captured and then was send by gift to Murad by the Algerian beylerbey.
@@drfhgs428 Yes agree with all you poin t except to one.
I don't think so that Kosem was power hungry ( at least until she face all tragedy) I mean she didn't have any objection that Murad abolished her tittle of regent
and she was resigned to him leading alone.
I think that although Ahmed and Murad trusted their mothers, they wanted to keep an image of an independent Sultan (especially as the title became less and less respected). So nothing personal here ( even if we know that what pushed Murad to to establish its authority definitively and started to locked his brothers was the jannisary revolt who killed his Grand Vizier and other people.
We don't have either proof that Ayse was power hungry but who can blame her if she dream to be Valide ( plus it seems that she really love Murad)?
Yes Murad had a complex personnality, but show butchered him ( but when I think he like Ayse I always wonder if he like only mens or like womens and mens. No matter he highly appreciated and respected Ayse).
@@nesiacha3659 Yes I agree about Kosem and Ayse,they weren't power hungry at all.
They were ambitious and have in common a lot.
Also I agree about Ahmed I and Murad IV,yes they trusted their mothers,but they wanted to create an image of independent sultans, as the title was falling slowly.
I also agree about the Janissary revolt.
I think that Handan,Kosem and Ayse had something in common,like Safiye and Halime
Comparing them to Safiye and Halime,they didn't show their ambitions and true personality openly, weren't eager to have so much power, they were patient, and hid their plans well, so that's why they didn't lose favour as Safiye and Halime had(except Handan in terms of favour,but it's different and Kosem in the end became like Safiye and Halime but we know the reason)and Ayse couldn't achieved but still similar.
Also the same with Hurrem and Gulnus comparing them to Safiye and Halime-they were patient too, and acted more smarter(especially Gulnus).
And there is also Turhan, Gulnus and Saliha(they are something similar as Handan,Kosem and Ayse),they were ambitious, some were power hungry(Gulnus and Saliha),but they acted with patience, understanding and without vengeance(even though Turhan Gulnus and Saliha had reasons for that).
Also it will be interesting to know why Handan lost her favour when Mehmed become sultan,for example there were similar cases too:like Halime Hatun-first wife of Murad II(who was his favourite wife too) was exiled in Bursa for short time but return later in Edrine ,and it seems that Halime had rivalry with Mara Hatun(who was said that Murad became so devoted to her and she become his favourite wife instead of Halime, also it seems that Mara befrended Huma there and Mehmed who also disliked Halime too),also Mara was exiled too but returned back like Halime, there is also example when Shevkeza Sultan because of jealousy made things up about Serfiraz Hanim(who was able to influence Abdulmejid I)that she had affair with palace guardian, and with this she destroyed her reputation,
yes Shevkeza was the one who locked Pertevniyal and Abdulhamid disliked his stepmother Shevkeza,also Shevkeza tried to enthrone her son 2 times, and also Meleksima Hatun who was favourite and legal wife of Osman II,lost her rank and status and was exiled in Edrine Palace because Osman blamed her for their son's death.
Interesting fact about Pertevniyal and Shevkeza: it seems that they both practised witchcraft and put spells against each other, lol.Their rivalry is more interestining than Safiye and Halime or Nurbanu and Safiye,lol.
Yes,the show totally butchered Murad as character.
Probably he liked both mens and womans.
Valide muazzama sultan will fix this error of murads and faryas. If farya thinks she will be happy then she doesn't know anything.
Ayse as character had a big potential.
Also Leyla fit the role well.
The same thing for Dilara(actress of Mahfiruze),like Leyla.
Unlike Tulin who totally didn't fit the role of Handan and Hande who totally didn't fit the role of Turhan.
Instead of them they should have shown Sibel(the actress of Gulbahar)as Handan,and Asli(the actress of Gevherhan)as Turhan.
About Turhan,also Yasemin(the actress of Defne),but Asli will fit better in that role.
They will have fit those roles well.
Gulbahar,Iskender and Farya's plots should be excluded.
Not only because they didn't exist,but their plots were illogical.
Show Murad wasn't portraited well too.They made him 2 version of Suleiman.
Even though Metin had potential,like Leyla,that's fault of writers.
Show versions of Murad and Ayse were very different than real ones.
But the most masacared characters in negative way were Handan and Ayse.
Probably the real Handan and Ayse are cursing the writers,lol.
Agree about all you said but I think that every historical characters cursed the writters XD.
For the moment the show Fatih is one of the few show who represented well the concubines ( except the villainization to Gulbahar but at least they represent her as a strong character).
For the choice of the actress of Turhan Asli is better in that role( I would rather make Yasemin as Mahidevran even if Nur Fettahoğlu was incredible in her role because I see more Mahidevran as blonde women with the apparence of the actress of Yasemin.
In addition to her intelligence Mahidevran was also very beautiful and even if the actress is beautiful, it was not the same beauty as I imagined so I was disapointed when I see the first appareance of Mahi. But I think that the fault lies more with the writers, they should have worked on the appearance differently of Nur).
After I say that but the goal is not to attack the appearance of the actresses (I did not like like everyone else when some precisely attacked the actresses on their appearance let's be clear)
@@nesiacha3659 Yes,Fatih is the only show who portrayed the concubines well.
Gulbahar was shown as villain,but also as strong willed woman(there is something accurate),as she was.
Not a crybaby,thankfully.
Idk really about Mahidervan,I imagine real Hafsa as Nebahat and real Mahidevran as Nur.
I don't think that Mahidevran was blonde,but I don't know really.
I think Nur played Mahidevran well.
But it's writers fault ofc like the other characters too.
About historical Mahidevran,I also think that she had black hair and green eyes or that she was like Nur.
I also don't have goal to attack the appearances of the actresses, I was comparing with the historical figures and honestly Sibel and Asli in their roles have more in common with historical Handan and Turhan.
Ofc Turhan wasn't crybaby like Gevherhan(in the show),but still Asli would fit the role of Turhan,and Handan wasn't vicious like Gulbahar, but still Sibel will fit Handan.
I think that Tulin and Hande will fit more a role of imperial sultanas,not Valide Sultanas.
@@drfhgs428 Yes agree with you.
Yes we will never know the true appareance of Mahidevran ( except she was beautiful). To be fair I really like Geverhan in the show and I don't think she was a cry baby in the show ( this is more for Atike show) but yet they butchered her.
But a good reason to make Mahi a blonde is for a better parrellel with Turhan ( I think that Mahidevran and Turhan got one of the most important parrellel) as I imagine Turhan in blonde too...
For Fatih, yes agree but still frustrating that they make Gulbahar a villains when she was not but she is a better character than a lot of MC show characters concubines.
@@nesiacha3659 Yes we will never know how Mahidevran looked like,except that she was said to be outstanding beauty.
Yes but Turhan wasn't blonde either.
She is described well as some traveler had dared to open the cariage when she was accompanying her son on campaigns.
Also several ambassadors besides the traveller had noted that Turhan was very tall,had chestnut hair and blue eyes.
But there can be found parallel between Safiye and Kosem(even though it's not surely,but some had said that they were blondes),and
Nurbanu and Gulnus too were described by ambassadors(it was said that they were tall,and had black hair and black eyes).
Yes in Fatih they made Gulbahar and Bayezid villains,lol.
But still Gulbahar was better than a lot of other MC show concubines.
I don't know why they didn't show Gulshah Hatun(mother of Mustafa)they made her dead,also Mukrime Hatun, Helena Hatun, Anna Hatun and Hatice Hatun.
But still Cicek Hatun was portrayed well.
@@drfhgs428
For Turhan some source said that she is blonde but maybe the several ambassadors
have interpreted facts knowing that the Valide had to be completely veiled (even if it is probable since many of them say that it is chustnair).
The problem is that we know that ambassadors sometimes tend to invent or misinterpret the facts (Mahidevran beat Hurrem, Halime was killed with her son Mahmud, etc...).
Yes I saw the show in Spanish sub about Fatih but I miss the last episode.
Frankly it's better than MC but as you say it lacks too many important characters, Sultan Mehmed is heroic compared to reality, as usual we blame the victim (Gulbahar) but apart from that it's a great not in historical progress (although MC is more recent so we are in regression XD).
I don't know if you managed to watch the entire Roxelana show because I couldn't.
Farya hatun did that, her time will come
What is the name of the song playing when his children are found? It seems beautiful yet torment at the same time
if you mean around 25:23 ish/that segment, it's Var Git Olum by Artekin Atas. (The song name has umlauts I can't add rn over the O and U of Olum.) it's on spotify and apple music that I found. (looked through all the soundtracks vol 1/2 for MCK and then finally used shazam from my phone and boom, it immediately knew. magic.)
@@Tsumtsumdere omg THANK YOU!!!!!
Question is how did she manage to procure poison
It was made previously to kill Gulbehar. She failed at that attempt but had kept the poison. They never checked her room for anything.
Well he deserved it. Denying a mother to see her children, no matter what she did, he had to pay the price. Cruelty for cruelty.
That is absolutely not an excuse for a mother to kill her own children.
For a mom to kill her own children? Clearly this is a radical feminist making a fool out of themselves as usual.
She did infact kill his child with farya.
So it’s his fault because he’s a man right? Lol get lost lady
If a woman killed one of my children from a previous relationship yes you bet yourself I would do everything legally to keep her away from my children as she is not stable to raise kids.
Lol didn’t know feminists think child murder is okay. 😂
@@TJRheaThe sultanas were murdering their own siblings when ascending the throne back then... different times.
@TJRhea she protected them from him. As she should have as their mother
Farya is the reason they are dead
Farya did nothing wrong!
Ayse acted like Mahidevran when she allied with Gulbahar, only to hurt Murad and Farya!
She did a horrible thing by putting the city to fire, even thought the people deserved it for what it did to Osman!
Murad had the right to leave Ayse for Farya, as much as Suleyman left Mahidevran for Hurrem!
Of course people can leave for another partner, but Mahidevran and Ayse were still kept slaves. Suleiman and Murad should let them go and be happy.
I'm not saying they did good, but their fate was terrible
@@nielubieinceli As mother of dynasty members they can't be just be freed and let go.
Song of asçe death?
She made her kids pay for her evil ways,so sad
He was sending her away, the kids were easy prey for the other women in his harrem.
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