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@@sittiaudibah3137 have always found them around the same level of recline. Have had experiences in other cabins on other aircraft however (economy on A380) where this wouldn’t be the case so to be safe I would sit a little further forward, especially with the back row on this 787 missing a window!
👏🏻 You have replied to everyone on your videos. I see that very rarely. Once the channel is established no one replies so thank you for still answering. I don't fly much so kindly tell about turbulence experience also. It sounds like only Airbus is better in that aspect.
@@Keepontravelling No probs! I really enjoy engaging with all of the comments, I don't suspect that'll be something that ever changes. Perhaps not every comment at some stage but still lots!
I would say that you should be skipping the first class lounge next time you are reviewing a product where it isn't included. Perhaps a swing through the dining and seating options in the terminal would be more appropriate.
First time viewer. Great no nonsense presentation, very concise and the perfect length. Very well shot. Personally, for me, if I were to go flying again after 17 years, solo (I'm 64), i would have kaniptions if I arrived at my preferred window seat and not found any window. I hope this was made clear at the booking stage. 😮💨
Thank you so much! Welcome to the channel also 😃 Thankfully the lack of window experience is really rare. Would highly recommend sites like Seat Guru just to double check your seat selection as they’ll let you know of any issues such as that on their seat maps across all major airlines :)
Thanks so much! Loads going on in Dubai from the fountains, the palm attractions/hotels, marina, JBR, the brunch scene, desert tours and loads more! Have a few bits on the channel taken 18 months or so ago. Check out @leaderofnoone for a great Dubai channel!
I have Gold for life Exec Club membership so always fly with BA when I can. BA cabin crew are always great in my experience - which is just as well as it helps to make up for the ancient 777s they use out of Gatwick !! Nothing about the food / drinks package justifies upgrading to WTP and I really don't think the extra leg room and recline make much difference. I can't sleep in economy and I can't sleep in WTP ! If I am not in business class using Avios / Companion Voucher then I usually pay for WTP because when it's just two of us we don't have to sit next to a stranger for 9 hours !! If we were a family of three or four I would just go economy
If it doesn’t help you sleep then yeah, probably not worth it much of the time. I’ve always found it helped me sleep much better so really helps justify the cost!
Hi, and THANKS! I saw your Economy review (upper deck), but for some reason I couldn't comment! I want to know if the nice space to your right (next to window) is also there for Economy on lower deck. I liked and subscribed! Thanks!
You’re very welcome! How odd 😅 Ok so, if you’re on the main deck in economy, you won’t get the storage bin and additional space. There’s a little bit more I’d say on the A380 as the cabin does flare out but not as much as the upper deck. I’d typically try and go for that always 😊 Great to have you onboard!
@@Travelsbydreamer Wow, and thanks! Unfortunately, I used a travel agent for the first time, haven't been across the pond in years. I am, in fact, in regular Economy.That storage bin appeared to make things much more comfortable in several ways. Thanks!
Yes indeed so, premium economy from memory generally gets boarding group 3 with economy in 4 and 5 in the old system. The Dreamliner is good, big windows and well hydrated cabin atmosphere vs most other aircraft. Turbulence wise, the Dreamliner isn’t huge so it wouldn’t be as good as a 747 intuitively but I’ve never had any issues on it ✈️
@@Keepontravelling Yeah, the 787 deals with the bumps well. Generally speaking, the larger the aircraft the less the turbulance, the A380 or 747 best bet for now. The other consideration is where you sit with over the wing always being best for the least movement. Premium Economy conveniently is located in this position on most wide bodied aircrafts around the world making it ideal!
I nearly always choose the last row in Premium, but I’m usually on Virgin between Miami and LHR. Since they have the same configuration on their 787, it’s pretty much identical legroom. I’ll be traveling VA to LHR again in March 2024 and I expect an enjoyable experience. Premium is nice on a long flight just for the extra legroom.
I really miss the VA premium economy, don’t typically fly with them due to alliance but it’s a fab product. Well superior to the BA offering from memory. Do you find that currently the case?
I’m flying to Miami next month, do you recommend Virgin then? Was looking at BA premium economy as I have long legs and bad knees so definitely need to stretch my legs. Thanks for your anticipated reply.
I worked in the industry both in the UK and US many years ago, but I don’t ever remember traveling with BA. I used to have the VA Amex card, so earning points was easy. Since I live in Florida, I now have the Delta Amex card, since I don’t travel to the UK very often. I use VA because I’ve always been happy with the service. @@Travelsbydreamer
I used some avios to book Premium Economy on BA from LHR to ATL and back this August. Looking forward to the experience and see how it measures up to their pre-Lockdown Club World product. (I last flew in the upper deck of a BA 747)
I flew the cabin in 2007 , things do change - and it looks much nicer now - def refurbished. I didn’t care for it - at that point. Was just a wider seat and staggered coach meal. Love BA personally and they have been good to travel trade - flown all cabins including “ R” class a few times. Was very memorable flights & sadly missed ..
Great insight, awesome to hear your story! The cabin featured in this one is now their older style PE with the latest being a nice move on. I featured it briefly on the channel also as a slightly older video oddly. Hope to fly the latest one later this year to get a full review on so watch this space! Happy travels ✈️
Good video thanks for sharing. I have flown premium economy a few times long haul and honestly I never do it again. Seats uncomfortably leg room not great reclining dreadful. For me business class seats are a must on long haul and if I can’t afford them I will just not go or travel short haul.
You’re very welcome! Really interesting perspective. I think it really depends which side of the fence you come down on in terms of whether PE is a glorified economy product or a genuine step up from economy and more of a ‘business light’. It’s positioning is pretty new and doesn’t make sense for a lot of travellers so do empathise with your position for sure - business is a totally different experience, that ability to get flat for sleep is priceless…
Sounds like a fun trip. I think the extent to which you’ll be impressed will depend on what other carriers and class you’re used to but, for sure, for that length of trip it’s a nice way to fly!
@Travelsbydreamer i have flown on Virgin Atlantic and also Norwegian and enjoyed them both but now got AMEX British Airways credit card so using it to gain a companion voucher
Hi, Would you know if the arm rest against the window/aisle (not middle section) lifts up or is it fixed? Wondering if it can give a bit extra room if needed?
You mentioned that you sat in the back row of premium economy, was there less of a recline since you were against a wall? Thank you and keep these up!!👏🏻
Haha, I think you could be right as it’s not usually something I’d even think about using however, was over in vegas recently and my lips cracked so badly - thankfully had some from a BA amenity kit (was the business class one but assume it’s similar) and worked so well 😂
I don’t think so personally, my guide price for it would typically be 50% on top of economy, if too much more, I generally start looking at cheaper business class with other airlines or simply economy to get the best value for money. Haha, even without checking the video, I’d say yes, highly likely 😂
Haha, always found the fine in reality. Will give them a thorough once over on the next review but no issues. Probably go deeper than they appear from the side profile etc :)
Lovely product etc but first impressions should be met with maybe a glass of bubbly if you wanted or Prosecco. Orange or water is poor and someone high up should be changing this . Great vide mo and we will be flying this product to Mexico
I go into the packages a little bit more in recent BA videos. Haven’t seen the base price that high but could vary a little. 7.99 feels very expensive…
Yep, it also didn't work. I complained on the flight I was unable to use the internet and was told the WiFi was sorted out by a third party and that if I wanted a refund I should email them... @@Travelsbydreamer
Very good question. It’s been some time since I used one however, I think as long as you book by that date you should be ok. Perhaps just put something out into the far distance and plan around that at the time. Worth trying to be a little clever with it and call BA. One scenario I’d look into is whether you could book something really far out and then what would be the flexibility around tuning the dates further down the line to suit you… Best of luck
I flew from LHR to BOS in PE 2 years ago... I liked the product. I've flown Lufthansa 3 times in their PE and I think I like BAs product slightly better. Anything is better than straight econ though!
Yeah would agree on that front! I’d like to give Lufthansa’s PE a go as soon as that’s a little more available across their fleet. Generally find the food really good with BA so not sure how they’d measure up on that front…
Forgot to mention: Both of us also thought that the lam dinner was the best airline food we have ever eaten. That dessert was also the perfect way to complenent the meal.@@Travelsbydreamer
Yeah typically this is an option. Often they’ll push upgrades if the cabin still has lots of seats, I’d recommend heading into the manage my booking. Failing that, a quick call through to them is generally advised. Upgrading can really range fees wise, well worth asking on the day also just in case…
Hmmm so, with it being premium economy the arm rest console is much larger than economy (it houses the tray table and small drinks rest area also) so can’t be moved. The upside of this however is that it very much protects your personal space onboard which is a big upgrade on economy…
I'm wanting to go from Heathrow to Haneda, Tokyo, I'm a pretty tall fella at 6 ft 3 and it will be my first solo trip. Would you reccomend going for premium economy or just regular economy? I've never done a trip like this before and am trying to iron everything out
Sounds like an amazing trip. Couple of options I guess for you - a standard seat I think will likely be too tight but, failing premium economy (if too expensive) then an emergency exit row seat in economy could be a really nice way to do it with only a potential seat selection fee as the cost of having more space. If you have BA silver status or above you’ll be able to choose this seat free or charge also :)
@@Travelsbydreamer Oh i think i will be going for premium economy then, the upgrade seems well worth the money! Thank you for your help i feel a bit more comfortable booking now! :)
Dont even consider economy for such a long trip . I wouldn't and I'm a fair bit shorter than you and still find it cramped especially when the seat in front reclines, that would be a nightmare all the way to Beijing.
@@Travelsbydreameri came back to say that I ended up booming Premium Economy! Your video spurred me on to do that! Thank you! I am very excited for my first solo flight!
Flying BA P.E. JFK to Hong Kong in a month. Figure id save a few thousand especially with my short stature. Normally i fly business & 1st but want to save more $ & cut back on spending unnecessary stuff in 2024
Yeah I think that’s really wise, especially for the JFK. I’ve long believed that PE is an ideal way to fly 6-8 hours. Hope you get one of the newer seats on both flights, having the leg rest coming up from the base of the seat makes a big difference for me 😃
With this older premium economy on the 787-9, yes. However, the newer seat which now features on the majority of the fleet, they do indeed have the leg rest thankfully 😊
@@AsheleiCshante there’s never a guarantee as aircraft can be swapped last minute. Being on a 777 is a good bet just now as they’ve been refurbed so likely will usher the newer seat 🙏
They might offer a vegetarian meal ahead of time but I don’t think it’ll be anything more substantial choice wise vs what one might expect in economy. That’s my gut feel anyway, can’t see much evidence I like of anything beyond that at a quick look
Good question. I’d put WT+ probably slightly ahead on the 380. Reason being, it’s upper deck and if you bay one of the window seats, you’ll benefit from the storage shelves on the side which adds more of a feeling of space and loads of additional storage also. The seats are the same generation however so a little older now.
Hello I'm going to fly their premium economy on Monday from Heathrow to Beijing. Hope it goes well. I was wondering if you know about the 777 cabin as I think I will be flying that. Anyways, amazing video as always!
Thanks so much. The 777 is likely to be better as many of them have been refurbed to the latest seat. I’ve linked my review of that in the description - well worth checking out
Didnt like the dancing around the "is lounge access included" question, ok you said "no" but then talked about how it might be if you flew a lot and then showed lounge pics. Its not part of PE and IMO absolutely none of the lounge stuff should have been in this review because the main demographic of someone wondering about paying extra for PE is not those who would fly so much they get status eventually (and dont you need gold to get into the lounge anyway which would be a lot of PE flights, my quick calculation is around 16 eg more than one flight a month. FWIW i do occasionally fly PE its a good product but essentially at heart its better economy not worse business.
Agreed with the sentiment around a better economy as opposed to a lesser business, although that is changing with some superb new products coming through (JAL for example). Lounge access however is a silver tier benefit, lounge shown here the First lounge but at LHR it’s hard to spot the difference (600 tier points required). A relatively short premium economy return routing such as this one would earn 180 points so yes, most people would get there very quickly indeed.
Great video! We were upgraded to Premium on the way home from JFK this year (on an Amex Companion ticket) and we can’t go back to WT now. Both of us are tall and extra leg room is invaluable. Have booked Premium for our next trip to the US and hoping to book CW or Premium for Cape Town (also Companion voucher) when the seats open ✈️
Thanks so much! Amazing to hear about your experience, it’s for sure a big step up. CW will feel even better, very much hope you get the newer seat for that one, they’ll for sure be no going back to economy then! 😅
Depends so much on the route and timings. Often, you can bag it for £150-£200 additional. Other times however, it can be double the economy fare. Lookout for cheaper upgrades sometimes closer to the date of travel :)
Premium Economy on the Airbus is much much better than the Premium Economy on the Boeing. The seats on the Airbus are larger and more comfortable and more legroom. The Premium Economy on the Boeing is what Economy used to be. Huge difference between the two Aircraft’s.
Hmmm the 350 has the newest seat config. That said, so does much of the 778 fleet. The 350 would likely go 2-3-2 across which is great but it’s a thinner aircraft…
@@Travelsbydreamer The British Airways Airbus we flew last night had a 2 4 2 combination in Premium Economy and a 3 3 3 combination in Hostility Class. I believe the Boeing had a similar seating configuration but the seats were smaller for sure. The Boeing must be a narrower plane.
@@davideger4684 hahaha love the reference to economy 😂 The Dreamliner for sure is a little more narrow. Shame they went 8 across on the 350, I’ve only ever flown on it in J from memory.
The aircraft builders have almost nothing to do with # of seats aboard. The individual airlines decide on which seat manufacturer to use and # of seats in each row of each class. Airbus and Boeing have nothing to do with it. Sorry to burst any preconceived notions.
You should not be showing the lounge at all. This is a mixed review and getting a thumbs down. This is coming across as a marketing ploy of british air and making your entire review sketch.
British airways is one of the worst airways i have ever taken..... So many people around the world have same aweful experience as mine, i believe that those who think British airways Is the Best never experience something good.
The amount of their premium economy IFE's and tray tables that are broken is ridiculous. Twice in the last year I've have totally unresponsive touchscreens/remote controls, and twice I've had tray tables that sloped so much to one side I've had to hold my food tray on while I was eating.
British Airways premium economy seats are exactly same size as economy. They call it premium because of the food, food better than economy. Never buy premium economy seats at BA
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Hi, just wondering does the back row seat can recline as much as the seat infront? Thanks
@@sittiaudibah3137 have always found them around the same level of recline. Have had experiences in other cabins on other aircraft however (economy on A380) where this wouldn’t be the case so to be safe I would sit a little further forward, especially with the back row on this 787 missing a window!
👏🏻 You have replied to everyone on your videos. I see that very rarely. Once the channel is established no one replies so thank you for still answering. I don't fly much so kindly tell about turbulence experience also. It sounds like only Airbus is better in that aspect.
@@Keepontravelling No probs! I really enjoy engaging with all of the comments, I don't suspect that'll be something that ever changes. Perhaps not every comment at some stage but still lots!
I would say that you should be skipping the first class lounge next time you are reviewing a product where it isn't included. Perhaps a swing through the dining and seating options in the terminal would be more appropriate.
Noted 👍
Wow! The inflight meal is decent, almost like business class meal. Nice flight report, Rich!
Thanks so much! Yeah was a great start to the flight for sure! 😃
Really enjoy your reviews. Thanks for sharing
You’re very welcome! Lots more to come ✈️
First time viewer. Great no nonsense presentation, very concise and the perfect length. Very well shot.
Personally, for me, if I were to go flying again after 17 years, solo (I'm 64), i would have kaniptions if I arrived at my preferred window seat and not found any window.
I hope this was made clear at the booking stage. 😮💨
Thank you so much! Welcome to the channel also 😃
Thankfully the lack of window experience is really rare. Would highly recommend sites like Seat Guru just to double check your seat selection as they’ll let you know of any issues such as that on their seat maps across all major airlines :)
@@Travelsbydreamerok. Seat Guru 👍🏻.
@@Keepontravelling Yeah, such a useful site!
Your British Airways videos are my favorite! 💕
Thank you! 😃
Very enjoyable review and excellent narration! What did you do in Dubai if I may ask? Have you made videos there? Thank you!
Thanks so much! Loads going on in Dubai from the fountains, the palm attractions/hotels, marina, JBR, the brunch scene, desert tours and loads more! Have a few bits on the channel taken 18 months or so ago. Check out @leaderofnoone for a great Dubai channel!
Hi Rich, I have been planning on a Finnair PE trip, but got here via your Finnair review and found it super-helpful. Thanks mate 👍
Always great to hear! Safe travels ✈️
Nice! I can save some money this fall. I'll definitely be doing premium economy instead of business class for Chicago to London
Enjoy!
I have Gold for life Exec Club membership so always fly with BA when I can. BA cabin crew are always great in my experience - which is just as well as it helps to make up for the ancient 777s they use out of Gatwick !!
Nothing about the food / drinks package justifies upgrading to WTP and I really don't think the extra leg room and recline make much difference. I can't sleep in economy and I can't sleep in WTP !
If I am not in business class using Avios / Companion Voucher then I usually pay for WTP because when it's just two of us we don't have to sit next to a stranger for 9 hours !! If we were a family of three or four I would just go economy
If it doesn’t help you sleep then yeah, probably not worth it much of the time. I’ve always found it helped me sleep much better so really helps justify the cost!
Hi, and THANKS! I saw your Economy review (upper deck), but for some reason I couldn't comment! I want to know if the nice space to your right (next to window) is also there for Economy on lower deck. I liked and subscribed! Thanks!
You’re very welcome! How odd 😅
Ok so, if you’re on the main deck in economy, you won’t get the storage bin and additional space. There’s a little bit more I’d say on the A380 as the cabin does flare out but not as much as the upper deck. I’d typically try and go for that always 😊
Great to have you onboard!
@@Travelsbydreamer Wow, and thanks! Unfortunately, I used a travel agent for the first time, haven't been across the pond in years. I am, in fact, in regular Economy.That storage bin appeared to make things much more comfortable in several ways. Thanks!
@@josephcollins6033 ahh I see! The 380 is a nice aircraft to fly on in economy regardless but maybe try and ask for it at the airport. Safe travels!
@@Travelsbydreamer I will do that!! Thanks, buddy!
Can u board before economy? Also is the 787-9 a good plane to fly on? How was turbulence.
Yes indeed so, premium economy from memory generally gets boarding group 3 with economy in 4 and 5 in the old system. The Dreamliner is good, big windows and well hydrated cabin atmosphere vs most other aircraft. Turbulence wise, the Dreamliner isn’t huge so it wouldn’t be as good as a 747 intuitively but I’ve never had any issues on it ✈️
Economy is terrible on the 787 but excellent in premium
@@TravelsbydreamerIs it manageable? The turbulence? And which aircrafts have less turbulence? Thnx.
@@Keepontravelling Yeah, the 787 deals with the bumps well. Generally speaking, the larger the aircraft the less the turbulance, the A380 or 747 best bet for now. The other consideration is where you sit with over the wing always being best for the least movement. Premium Economy conveniently is located in this position on most wide bodied aircrafts around the world making it ideal!
I nearly always choose the last row in Premium, but I’m usually on Virgin between Miami and LHR. Since they have the same configuration on their 787, it’s pretty much identical legroom. I’ll be traveling VA to LHR again in March 2024 and I expect an enjoyable experience. Premium is nice on a long flight just for the extra legroom.
I really miss the VA premium economy, don’t typically fly with them due to alliance but it’s a fab product. Well superior to the BA offering from memory. Do you find that currently the case?
I’m flying to Miami next month, do you recommend Virgin then? Was looking at BA premium economy as I have long legs and bad knees so definitely need to stretch my legs. Thanks for your anticipated reply.
@@tegaumukoro2044 reviewing Virgin on the channel next month. Let’s see if others can offer some advice just now for you :)
I worked in the industry both in the UK and US many years ago, but I don’t ever remember traveling with BA. I used to have the VA Amex card, so earning points was easy. Since I live in Florida, I now have the Delta Amex card, since I don’t travel to the UK very often. I use VA because I’ve always been happy with the service. @@Travelsbydreamer
Absolutely @@tegaumukoro2044
I used some avios to book Premium Economy on BA from LHR to ATL and back this August. Looking forward to the experience and see how it measures up to their pre-Lockdown Club World product. (I last flew in the upper deck of a BA 747)
Sounds great, hope you get the latest premium economy offering. Those upper deck flights on the 747 really were special!
Nice video. That horse lamp is insane.
Thank you! Yeah sure is!
I flew the cabin in 2007 , things do change - and it looks much nicer now - def refurbished.
I didn’t care for it - at that point. Was just a wider seat and staggered coach meal.
Love BA personally and they have been good to travel trade - flown all cabins including “ R” class a few times. Was very memorable flights & sadly missed ..
Great insight, awesome to hear your story! The cabin featured in this one is now their older style PE with the latest being a nice move on. I featured it briefly on the channel also as a slightly older video oddly.
Hope to fly the latest one later this year to get a full review on so watch this space!
Happy travels ✈️
Good video thanks for sharing.
I have flown premium economy a few times long haul and honestly I never do it again.
Seats uncomfortably leg room not great reclining dreadful.
For me business class seats are a must on long haul and if I can’t afford them I will just not go or travel short haul.
You’re very welcome! Really interesting perspective. I think it really depends which side of the fence you come down on in terms of whether PE is a glorified economy product or a genuine step up from economy and more of a ‘business light’. It’s positioning is pretty new and doesn’t make sense for a lot of travellers so do empathise with your position for sure - business is a totally different experience, that ability to get flat for sleep is priceless…
We are flying to Orlando in December on BA Premium economy,this is my 1st time flying on BA so hoping all will be well
Sounds like a fun trip. I think the extent to which you’ll be impressed will depend on what other carriers and class you’re used to but, for sure, for that length of trip it’s a nice way to fly!
@Travelsbydreamer i have flown on Virgin Atlantic and also Norwegian and enjoyed them both but now got AMEX British Airways credit card so using it to gain a companion voucher
Hi, Would you know if the arm rest against the window/aisle (not middle section) lifts up or is it fixed? Wondering if it can give a bit extra room if needed?
I’d say fixed but not 100% sure…
Flying it again next month so can check!
@@Travelsbydreamer Thanks!
great BA service here. Great food and alc beverages
Yeah absolutely, was one of my best flights with them!
thanks for this video! Does the front row in Premium Economy have the foot rest as well?
I don’t think so on the 787 but might get more lucky with the newer product aboard the 777 and A350 :)
Which aircrafts have too much turbulence? I got 3 787 9 and only one airbus in my future journey 🙄. Thnk u.
Wouldn’t say any, they’re all pretty good!
@@Travelsbydreamer Good to hear that 🙂.
You mentioned that you sat in the back row of premium economy, was there less of a recline since you were against a wall? Thank you and keep these up!!👏🏻
Have done it a few times and have never recalled any issues back there. Window missing for sure made that row one to avoid on the 787 however sadly!
Flew BA P. E. In December Canada to LHR….that lip balm is the best ever!!
Haha, I think you could be right as it’s not usually something I’d even think about using however, was over in vegas recently and my lips cracked so badly - thankfully had some from a BA amenity kit (was the business class one but assume it’s similar) and worked so well 😂
Which terminal is this? Are terminals connected? Like 3 & 5? How long does it take to go to and fro? Thnx.
This was T5, you can use the intra terminal bus from memory but there should be lots of info online about connections etc :)
@@Travelsbydreamer Thank you. I will check on their website.
Two questions: at double the price of economy is it really worth it? Also did you drink red, white, gin and Baylis? 😮
I don’t think so personally, my guide price for it would typically be 50% on top of economy, if too much more, I generally start looking at cheaper business class with other airlines or simply economy to get the best value for money.
Haha, even without checking the video, I’d say yes, highly likely 😂
This is really brilliant
Glad it was useful!
Could those seats have any thinner cushioning?
Haha, always found the fine in reality. Will give them a thorough once over on the next review but no issues. Probably go deeper than they appear from the side profile etc :)
Are the seats wider in premium economy vs regular economy?
Yeah, a little bit. There’s also more of a divide between them which helps for personal space too
Lovely product etc but first impressions should be met with maybe a glass of bubbly if you wanted or Prosecco. Orange or water is poor and someone high up should be changing this . Great vide mo and we will be flying this product to Mexico
Agreed and thank you. Enjoy!
I am pretty sure it was 4.99 per hour and they would have given you a different price for the flight (7.99 for the one I was on).
I go into the packages a little bit more in recent BA videos. Haven’t seen the base price that high but could vary a little. 7.99 feels very expensive…
Yep, it also didn't work. I complained on the flight I was unable to use the internet and was told the WiFi was sorted out by a third party and that if I wanted a refund I should email them... @@Travelsbydreamer
I have companion voucher about to expire next month August 2023. No plans for holiday just now, any advice on how to use it for future trips?
Very good question. It’s been some time since I used one however, I think as long as you book by that date you should be ok. Perhaps just put something out into the far distance and plan around that at the time.
Worth trying to be a little clever with it and call BA. One scenario I’d look into is whether you could book something really far out and then what would be the flexibility around tuning the dates further down the line to suit you…
Best of luck
I flew from LHR to BOS in PE 2 years ago... I liked the product. I've flown Lufthansa 3 times in their PE and I think I like BAs product slightly better. Anything is better than straight econ though!
Yeah would agree on that front!
I’d like to give Lufthansa’s PE a go as soon as that’s a little more available across their fleet. Generally find the food really good with BA so not sure how they’d measure up on that front…
We flew PE 2 weeks ago (Oct 23rd) on an A350 from LHR to Vancouver and WERE provided with alcohol right after take off.
Good to hear and very much standard practice. Key thing is the supply of it on the ground 👍
Forgot to mention: Both of us also thought that the lam dinner was the best airline food we have ever eaten. That dessert was also the perfect way to complenent the meal.@@Travelsbydreamer
@@grantw7 so good right! Very much hope to have that again on a trip soon ✈️
Hey, one question. How can I upgrade from economy to premium economy ? I don’t see anything on the BA website
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Yeah typically this is an option. Often they’ll push upgrades if the cabin still has lots of seats, I’d recommend heading into the manage my booking. Failing that, a quick call through to them is generally advised. Upgrading can really range fees wise, well worth asking on the day also just in case…
Does anybody ever talk about the armrest situation, if it can be moved or not?
Hmmm so, with it being premium economy the arm rest console is much larger than economy (it houses the tray table and small drinks rest area also) so can’t be moved. The upside of this however is that it very much protects your personal space onboard which is a big upgrade on economy…
I Like The Product Premium Economy.Great Trip Report
It’s a nice sweet spot often between cost and comfort. Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm wanting to go from Heathrow to Haneda, Tokyo, I'm a pretty tall fella at 6 ft 3 and it will be my first solo trip. Would you reccomend going for premium economy or just regular economy? I've never done a trip like this before and am trying to iron everything out
Sounds like an amazing trip. Couple of options I guess for you - a standard seat I think will likely be too tight but, failing premium economy (if too expensive) then an emergency exit row seat in economy could be a really nice way to do it with only a potential seat selection fee as the cost of having more space. If you have BA silver status or above you’ll be able to choose this seat free or charge also :)
@@Travelsbydreamer Oh i think i will be going for premium economy then, the upgrade seems well worth the money! Thank you for your help i feel a bit more comfortable booking now! :)
Dont even consider economy for such a long trip . I wouldn't and I'm a fair bit shorter than you and still find it cramped especially when the seat in front reclines, that would be a nightmare all the way to Beijing.
@@Travelsbydreameri came back to say that I ended up booming Premium Economy! Your video spurred me on to do that! Thank you!
I am very excited for my first solo flight!
@@erictheroman5813 enjoy! ✈️
It also includes an extra bag in the hold.
Yeah indeed, baggage allowance in premium economy is 2x 23KG bags
Flying BA P.E. JFK to Hong Kong in a month. Figure id save a few thousand especially with my short stature. Normally i fly business & 1st but want to save more $ & cut back on spending unnecessary stuff in 2024
Yeah I think that’s really wise, especially for the JFK. I’ve long believed that PE is an ideal way to fly 6-8 hours. Hope you get one of the newer seats on both flights, having the leg rest coming up from the base of the seat makes a big difference for me 😃
So only foot rest, not the leg rest?
With this older premium economy on the 787-9, yes. However, the newer seat which now features on the majority of the fleet, they do indeed have the leg rest thankfully 😊
@@Travelsbydreamer show do I make sure I’m on a newer one lol?
@@AsheleiCshante there’s never a guarantee as aircraft can be swapped last minute. Being on a 777 is a good bet just now as they’ve been refurbed so likely will usher the newer seat 🙏
@@Travelsbydreamer ok thx
isnt it possible to pre order some meals in premium economy? like vegetarian asian or something?
They might offer a vegetarian meal ahead of time but I don’t think it’ll be anything more substantial choice wise vs what one might expect in economy. That’s my gut feel anyway, can’t see much evidence I like of anything beyond that at a quick look
flying WT+ but on the A380. should there be any differences?
Good question. I’d put WT+ probably slightly ahead on the 380. Reason being, it’s upper deck and if you bay one of the window seats, you’ll benefit from the storage shelves on the side which adds more of a feeling of space and loads of additional storage also. The seats are the same generation however so a little older now.
Hello I'm going to fly their premium economy on Monday from Heathrow to Beijing. Hope it goes well. I was wondering if you know about the 777 cabin as I think I will be flying that. Anyways, amazing video as always!
Thanks so much. The 777 is likely to be better as many of them have been refurbed to the latest seat. I’ve linked my review of that in the description - well worth checking out
@@Travelsbydreamer ok thanks so much. I'll be sure to watch it.
Hi, is the last row full reclining?
@@teerthankardas7997 in my experience I’d say yes
@@teerthankardas7997 yes it is.
Didnt like the dancing around the "is lounge access included" question, ok you said "no" but then talked about how it might be if you flew a lot and then showed lounge pics. Its not part of PE and IMO absolutely none of the lounge stuff should have been in this review because the main demographic of someone wondering about paying extra for PE is not those who would fly so much they get status eventually (and dont you need gold to get into the lounge anyway which would be a lot of PE flights, my quick calculation is around 16 eg more than one flight a month.
FWIW i do occasionally fly PE its a good product but essentially at heart its better economy not worse business.
Agreed with the sentiment around a better economy as opposed to a lesser business, although that is changing with some superb new products coming through (JAL for example).
Lounge access however is a silver tier benefit, lounge shown here the First lounge but at LHR it’s hard to spot the difference (600 tier points required). A relatively short premium economy return routing such as this one would earn 180 points so yes, most people would get there very quickly indeed.
I'm flying from Toronto to Delhi in premium economy soon. Hope it's worth it 😊
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video! We were upgraded to Premium on the way home from JFK this year (on an Amex Companion ticket) and we can’t go back to WT now. Both of us are tall and extra leg room is invaluable. Have booked Premium for our next trip to the US and hoping to book CW or Premium for Cape Town (also Companion voucher) when the seats open ✈️
Thanks so much! Amazing to hear about your experience, it’s for sure a big step up. CW will feel even better, very much hope you get the newer seat for that one, they’ll for sure be no going back to economy then! 😅
1:14 how do you not just pee the entire flight? Asking for a friend
Hahahah with practice 😂
Is there a laptop power supply?
They have plug sockets yep
How much is premium?
Depends so much on the route and timings. Often, you can bag it for £150-£200 additional. Other times however, it can be double the economy fare. Lookout for cheaper upgrades sometimes closer to the date of travel :)
No Breakfast service?!?
There would’ve been something small but slept through on this occasion 👍
I really enjoyed the video but was a bit perplexed at the ….. awkward pauses…. In the narration…… style.
Glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate the feedback 👍
Hating for no reason 🤡
It is weird. 😂
Sounds like a pilot haha
I like it
were those mushy peas?
Haha, kinda. They had them down on the menu as a pea mousseline which is a little different
Premium Economy on the Airbus is much much better than the Premium Economy on the Boeing. The seats on the Airbus are larger and more comfortable and more legroom. The Premium Economy on the Boeing is what Economy used to be. Huge difference between the two Aircraft’s.
Hmmm the 350 has the newest seat config. That said, so does much of the 778 fleet. The 350 would likely go 2-3-2 across which is great but it’s a thinner aircraft…
@@Travelsbydreamer The British Airways Airbus we flew last night had a 2 4 2 combination in Premium Economy and a 3 3 3 combination in Hostility Class. I believe the Boeing had a similar seating configuration but the seats were smaller for sure. The Boeing must be a narrower plane.
@@davideger4684 hahaha love the reference to economy 😂
The Dreamliner for sure is a little more narrow. Shame they went 8 across on the 350, I’ve only ever flown on it in J from memory.
The aircraft builders have almost nothing to do with # of seats aboard. The individual airlines decide on which seat manufacturer to use and # of seats in each row of each class. Airbus and Boeing have nothing to do with it. Sorry to burst any preconceived notions.
Nice shoes Mate!
Thanks! 😃
You should not be showing the lounge at all. This is a mixed review and getting a thumbs down. This is coming across as a marketing ploy of british air and making your entire review sketch.
British airways is one of the worst airways i have ever taken..... So many people around the world have same aweful experience as mine, i believe that those who think British airways Is the Best never experience something good.
Big delta between the best and worst. Most would likely agree they fall somewhere in between.
The amount of their premium economy IFE's and tray tables that are broken is ridiculous.
Twice in the last year I've have totally unresponsive touchscreens/remote controls, and twice I've had tray tables that sloped so much to one side I've had to hold my food tray on while I was eating.
Never experienced this thankfully as that really does sound rough!
Not as good as Singapore airlines seats much wider.
Would love to try the Singapore airlines incarnation!
British Airways premium economy seats are exactly same size as economy. They call it premium because of the food, food better than economy. Never buy premium economy seats at BA
The seats are both wider and have typically 6-7 inches more legroom. The experience is infinitely better than in economy in terms of space.
There's nothing premium about BA and their disdain for customers!
Simply #BestAvoided
You were lucky that they had your menu choice available...
It’s crap. Yes I have done it.
Differing opinions always welcome! Where did they fall down for you?