Some men are behind bars being wrongfully accused. My son was nearly expelled due to a girl who accused him of seeking sex but my son had messages that she was the one who was suggestive of that and my son refused she then cropped the messages to fit her narrative.whwt could have happened if my son deleted the messages as they were from the previous year.
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 I’m so sorry you and your son went through such. I hope there was punishment for the girl who lied. There are many men behind bars who were wrongfully accused.
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 I used to be so closed minded I used to say the one thing i fear is my brother telling me he is gay… the more i got exposed and learnt about things/life nje i realised my worst fear is my brother being falsely accused of affirmative repossession of someone’s kitty… The world we live in! 💔
1. Victims of rape should always go to the police as soon it occurs. 2. All evidence should be given to an attorney and the police. 3. Delaying to report such an act should be discouraged, victims should always put themselves first before even thinking about the accused. 4. If rape victims lie or claim to be raped and the law finds otherwise, they should be given the 15 years in jail and be sued.
@@tranquilsoothingsounds3334Which is absolutely ridiculous cause I don’t remember going to a police station and make a false statement. Real victims will not be deterred from reporting because it will be the truth. They need to be prosecuted so these liars will know not to play with such a sensitive case in light of the current situation in this country
@@bigbadwolf9513 unfortunately in the courts of law from what I’ve seen, it is not about the truth, it is about what you can prove. So I guess the angle would be that if the alleged perpetrator wins the case by some technicality even though he did it, (which is highly possible) the victim would then fear prosecution because the defendant would then lay charges on her. That would deter some people to open cases especially against powerful people. I agree with you that it is definitely bs , but that’s what I think the powers that be would say. What should happen is people should stand up and challenge these issues in appropriate forums and put pressure on relevant authorities to make these changes to the law. Talking about it on social media and in corners only is not going to help.
Its funny after the " rape " happend Itumeleng continued to reach out to Nota to chat but as soon as she didnt get what she wanted she then accused Nota..
Disgusting!!! I hope she goes down. Uyaxoka maan lo sisi. She wanted Nota to make a music career happen. Thought she'd sleep her way to that. When things didn't go her way, she calls rape. Rha sies!
Indeed, this is a very sensitive and serious matter. Women who falsely accuse men of rape should face strong accountability if found guilty, It is disheartening when individuals descend to such a low level, using false accusations to advance personal interests or careers. This kind of behavior is damaging to womanhood and compromises the progress we have made in advocating for justice and equality. At the same time, men must also avoid creating environments where they are seen as stepping stones to stardom. Men must be more conscious of how they safeguard the power and influence they hold in any industry. No one becomes a victim or prey by chance.
The good thing about your video is that you tried to remain somewhat neutral. My take on this matter is that the texts (WA) which were leaked do not do Nota any favours. And I think most SAns missed a key point, even Nota himself missed it. Here's why: On Sep 9, at 06:46 she sent Nota a WA saying that she is not okay with what happened the previous evening. Also stated that she tried many times to push him away but he continued. She also said she said NO, STOP, a few times. In Nota's reply to her message, he DID NOT dispute any of those allegations! He just said to her that they are grown ups and that she is painting him as a monster and she is manipulating and guilt tripping him. Through all his responses he never stated she did not push him away nor did she say NO, STOP. As a man, I think if any woman who says that she did any of those things when I had sex with her, I would dispute it immediately if it did not happen. Immediately. Most people are looking at this from a view of the lady manipulated Nota. In law (I'm not a lawyer, but this was made public precedent through a recent case), it is considered grape if a woman says NO. It could your wife, or you could be about to start a 2nd round with a naked woman who you just had a 1st round with. The moment she says NO, but a man still persists, it is grape, regardless what the circumstances are (whether she's naked, your wife, manipulated you, a prostitute who took your money...whatever). If she says NO and you persist, that is grape. The most disappoint thing about what Nota did was that he took advantage of a desperate woman. He was in a position of power and he abused it. But let's see how this plays out.
Nota loves painting himself as a principled man. In one of his interviews he said sex is not about pleasure yet what he does in the background is contradictory. He was having pleasure with this woman that's why he couldn't take No for an answer 🤣
Itu is trying to make a name for herself. she needs to be behind bars, The law needs to make an example of her, imagine the real rape victims who won't be taken seriously.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Finally someone who articulated this point beautifully! It is not only the fact that Itu stated in the text that she had told him no and stop but the fact that be did not deny her saying all of those things. Off bat he is already in the danger zone. I wish she didn't manipulate him and use the fact that he took advantage of her to get what she wants because now we start to question her intentions but oksayalo this does not look really good for either of them
My brother was falsley accussed of rape and we spent year in court fighting the allegation and he won. But that was after he lost his job and was imprisoned for lies. I have never looked at "believe the victim" the same way after that.
On this one, NOTA is being blackmailed in my opinion. She was and is going through a lot. She has also saying the previous producers etc. have not done well by her. NOTA, bro when the primary case has been concluded, please take this up on blackmail / extortion charges. We need to get to the point where consent is clear (somehow). This is not ok.
Hee what a coincidence! I quickly clicked on this video thinking this was Penuel's platform. But ke the resemblance is too striking for you two to not be related😢. Even the surnames are the same... I like the brotherhood that runs in your family 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾!!
I read those WhatsApp messages. Itu says "I'm mad because you pushed me, it keeps playing in my mind how many times i said no and pushed you away but you went on." Which is rape. 2. Why is nobody disgusted by the fact that uNota, a record executive, talent developer and all these things he claims to be having sex with an artist/ a talent. And im raising this because i dont know how to articulate it because its not a traditional workplace environment. But if it were then he would've abused his power. In a workplace for example if a HR manager has sex with a junior empoyeee in exchange for sex. Thats what this looks like to me. A whole record executive having sex with an artist. These are the things that stood out for me. Abuse of power/position. And the coersion. Yes she wanted to be in a relationship, yes she wanted the music career advancement, yes she negotiated with him further but why is everyone ignoring these two things. Its like evryone has automatically decided that she is lying.
Demanding a relationship from your rapist is wild. But she kept saying in those texts that she said "No" in a cfriendly way". Its upsetting becuz we are literally witnessing this "No means No" phrase being weaponized in real time to accuse men of rape. They found a loophole where now ladies will say No in a friendly flirting tone, while taking of their clothes, acting shy n then the next day text "I said No, I wasn't comfortable,I didnt want to it. We need a third party to resolve this" I'm so disappointed in Nota, how do you fall for this? He should know better. He's Nota, there are so many women who can't wait to destroy him just because of his views. He needs to protect who he let's in his intimate spaces.
Eish, this rape thing, abuse that is making me soo furious as a person that is surrounded by reality of these things happening elokishini 24/7 True real cases with witnesses but no justice Kubekhona nje abantu who are chosen to target people who are trying to make a name for them selves People who are trying to live a dignified life with "no crime and corruption" theres a woman out there waiting to be used somewhere to finish such a man I'm sorry to say this as a woman myself Thina we just like to seek wrong advise from bitter people when everything burst siyaqala sikhupha amehlo We like to put our selves in positions of being used for crumbs to tornish peoples image in just few seconds The person you are helping is having a massive score to settle, cowardly his gonna use your image, your name and your time to win his fight. It's time when the accused is found not guilty the one that open a case should do the time inside jail for wasting the government resources.
Bro when you are a man of Truth or an Icon you must be careful of the woman u work with purpose should be above pleasure Girls know they can finish a man in seconds
Regarding the core subject matter, rape suspects can no longer argue that consent is subjective. If ever someone withdraws their consent at any level, in the rape capital of the world, you will be sent to jail 👍.
@@pensonmlotshwa I just saw your video answering this question. I ge you. I have a similar story of proving to myself that I can make my own decisions without having to fear societal views. What I did leaving high school, I decided I want dreadlocks so I'm going to grow them not buy them. I had to do abo blowout and gents were clowning, did cornrows and pigtails and the gents were on my case about my masculinity but because it was about myself and proving I can take my own decisions as a men, i kept at it. Eventually my hair grew long enough to do the dreadlocks but they were short and I still got clowned for them batsi they are pretend locks...ama cheese curls 😂 7 years later the insults were gone and now I was getting offers to buy my dreads. I've since cut them off because I had achieved the goal I set out to attain all without the fear of society and all that. Challenged myself and came out on top.
Your plan is to sue a person who doesn’t have money and was in fact trying to get you to put them on? Lmao my brother this is like asking your hijackers to drop you at the police station.
Itumeleng is lying, she seems to be disturbed young lady who is in need of therapy I believe she is rejected by a lot males and doesn’t get their attention. So she became obsessed with Nota .
Stop tip towing around this issue bro! We know this chick is talking BS! I don't subscribe to this "believe all women" bs! At this rate we need to install secret CCTV cameras at our cribs!
This topic is very sensitive, and I hope it is not True. Why would Nota "allegedly" rape someone? It does not add up. I do not trust Mnguni woman at all.
@@1684-v9q I do not what she is all I know sothos, Xhosas and zulu sleep with one another and we don't know who is who, except anchor babies all over the place.
Some men are behind bars being wrongfully accused. My son was nearly expelled due to a girl who accused him of seeking sex but my son had messages that she was the one who was suggestive of that and my son refused she then cropped the messages to fit her narrative.whwt could have happened if my son deleted the messages as they were from the previous year.
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 I’m so sorry you and your son went through such. I hope there was punishment for the girl who lied.
There are many men behind bars who were wrongfully accused.
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 I used to be so closed minded I used to say the one thing i fear is my brother telling me he is gay… the more i got exposed and learnt about things/life nje i realised my worst fear is my brother being falsely accused of affirmative repossession of someone’s kitty…
The world we live in! 💔
Please protect your son because my brother was a victim of false rape acusation imprisonement
1. Victims of rape should always go to the police as soon it occurs.
2. All evidence should be given to an attorney and the police.
3. Delaying to report such an act should be discouraged, victims should always put themselves first before even thinking about the accused.
4. If rape victims lie or claim to be raped and the law finds otherwise, they should be given the 15 years in jail and be sued.
@@SpazzEDWorld I agree on all points above… 🙏🏽
The last one is not going to happen. They will say it will deter true victims from reporting.
@@tranquilsoothingsounds3334Which is absolutely ridiculous cause I don’t remember going to a police station and make a false statement. Real victims will not be deterred from reporting because it will be the truth.
They need to be prosecuted so these liars will know not to play with such a sensitive case in light of the current situation in this country
@@bigbadwolf9513 unfortunately in the courts of law from what I’ve seen, it is not about the truth, it is about what you can prove. So I guess the angle would be that if the alleged perpetrator wins the case by some technicality even though he did it, (which is highly possible) the victim would then fear prosecution because the defendant would then lay charges on her. That would deter some people to open cases especially against powerful people. I agree with you that it is definitely bs , but that’s what I think the powers that be would say. What should happen is people should stand up and challenge these issues in appropriate forums and put pressure on relevant authorities to make these changes to the law. Talking about it on social media and in corners only is not going to help.
But also what im happy bout South Africa has passed that stage i believe her, with out hearing the other side. So noko as isizwe siyakhula
@@Sbabalwe1234 Siyakhula hey…
@@Sbabalwe1234 I was once a fool.
It's so scary having brothers.
@@Mbalings It’s super scary hey…
@@pensonmlotshwahillbrow inn or cheeky tiger is safer. Paying is a strong proof of consent.
Its funny after the " rape " happend
Itumeleng continued to reach out to Nota to chat but as soon as she didnt get what she wanted she then accused Nota..
Disgusting!!! I hope she goes down. Uyaxoka maan lo sisi. She wanted Nota to make a music career happen. Thought she'd sleep her way to that. When things didn't go her way, she calls rape. Rha sies!
Am a 26 year old guy , am even scared to date 😢 ...
Indeed, this is a very sensitive and serious matter. Women who falsely accuse men of rape should face strong accountability if found guilty, It is disheartening when individuals descend to such a low level, using false accusations to advance personal interests or careers. This kind of behavior is damaging to womanhood and compromises the progress we have made in advocating for justice and equality. At the same time, men must also avoid creating environments where they are seen as stepping stones to stardom. Men must be more conscious of how they safeguard the power and influence they hold in any industry. No one becomes a victim or prey by chance.
The good thing about your video is that you tried to remain somewhat neutral. My take on this matter is that the texts (WA) which were leaked do not do Nota any favours. And I think most SAns missed a key point, even Nota himself missed it. Here's why:
On Sep 9, at 06:46 she sent Nota a WA saying that she is not okay with what happened the previous evening. Also stated that she tried many times to push him away but he continued. She also said she said NO, STOP, a few times.
In Nota's reply to her message, he DID NOT dispute any of those allegations! He just said to her that they are grown ups and that she is painting him as a monster and she is manipulating and guilt tripping him.
Through all his responses he never stated she did not push him away nor did she say NO, STOP. As a man, I think if any woman who says that she did any of those things when I had sex with her, I would dispute it immediately if it did not happen. Immediately.
Most people are looking at this from a view of the lady manipulated Nota. In law (I'm not a lawyer, but this was made public precedent through a recent case), it is considered grape if a woman says NO. It could your wife, or you could be about to start a 2nd round with a naked woman who you just had a 1st round with. The moment she says NO, but a man still persists, it is grape, regardless what the circumstances are (whether she's naked, your wife, manipulated you, a prostitute who took your money...whatever). If she says NO and you persist, that is grape.
The most disappoint thing about what Nota did was that he took advantage of a desperate woman. He was in a position of power and he abused it. But let's see how this plays out.
Nota loves painting himself as a principled man. In one of his interviews he said sex is not about pleasure yet what he does in the background is contradictory. He was having pleasure with this woman that's why he couldn't take No for an answer 🤣
Itu is trying to make a name for herself. she needs to be behind bars, The law needs to make an example of her, imagine the real rape victims who won't be taken seriously.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Finally someone who articulated this point beautifully! It is not only the fact that Itu stated in the text that she had told him no and stop but the fact that be did not deny her saying all of those things. Off bat he is already in the danger zone. I wish she didn't manipulate him and use the fact that he took advantage of her to get what she wants because now we start to question her intentions but oksayalo this does not look really good for either of them
He also said that she had his penis in her hand.Why would she hold his penis ? A woman holding my penis in her hand definitely wants it.
My brother was falsley accussed of rape and we spent year in court fighting the allegation and he won. But that was after he lost his job and was imprisoned for lies. I have never looked at "believe the victim" the same way after that.
😂😂Aykabi Bafo this nail polish ayjwayeleki. Its uncomfortable too watch. Your content is nice bro.
It's so funny how you can be gone for a mere 3 days,and it would feel like you've been gone forever. Happy to see your upload once again
That’s so sweet 😊❤
Thank you 🙏🏽
Not Big NOTA,this girl is just hungry fullstop.. yes I am a woman but i know some women have become toxic .
U r right Penson
@@dikeledihlabangane3854 Thank you 🙏🏽
On this one, NOTA is being blackmailed in my opinion. She was and is going through a lot. She has also saying the previous producers etc. have not done well by her.
NOTA, bro when the primary case has been concluded, please take this up on blackmail / extortion charges. We need to get to the point where consent is clear (somehow). This is not ok.
She stated in her messages that she said no. She said NO
Hee what a coincidence! I quickly clicked on this video thinking this was Penuel's platform. But ke the resemblance is too striking for you two to not be related😢. Even the surnames are the same... I like the brotherhood that runs in your family 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾!!
I read those WhatsApp messages. Itu says "I'm mad because you pushed me, it keeps playing in my mind how many times i said no and pushed you away but you went on." Which is rape.
2. Why is nobody disgusted by the fact that uNota, a record executive, talent developer and all these things he claims to be having sex with an artist/ a talent. And im raising this because i dont know how to articulate it because its not a traditional workplace environment. But if it were then he would've abused his power. In a workplace for example if a HR manager has sex with a junior empoyeee in exchange for sex. Thats what this looks like to me. A whole record executive having sex with an artist.
These are the things that stood out for me. Abuse of power/position. And the coersion.
Yes she wanted to be in a relationship, yes she wanted the music career advancement, yes she negotiated with him further but why is everyone ignoring these two things. Its like evryone has automatically decided that she is lying.
Demanding a relationship from your rapist is wild. But she kept saying in those texts that she said "No" in a cfriendly way". Its upsetting becuz we are literally witnessing this "No means No" phrase being weaponized in real time to accuse men of rape. They found a loophole where now ladies will say No in a friendly flirting tone, while taking of their clothes, acting shy n then the next day text "I said No, I wasn't comfortable,I didnt want to it. We need a third party to resolve this"
I'm so disappointed in Nota, how do you fall for this? He should know better. He's Nota, there are so many women who can't wait to destroy him just because of his views. He needs to protect who he let's in his intimate spaces.
Facts!! He was a bit niave on jus how deep these chicks can go....
@@vickykgoete3161 This is a very sensitive issue, and we have to be brave enough to discuss these matters.
Nota should of chased her out the minute he got mixed signals. He got carried away and fell. These are lots of girls out there with a clear yes.
Wen deal dnt go well dey will cry R...still remember wat she said about her previous record label
Eish, this rape thing, abuse that is making me soo furious as a person that is surrounded by reality of these things happening elokishini 24/7
True real cases with witnesses but no justice
Kubekhona nje abantu who are chosen to target people who are trying to make a name for them selves
People who are trying to live a dignified life with "no crime and corruption" theres a woman out there waiting to be used somewhere to finish such a man
I'm sorry to say this as a woman myself
Thina we just like to seek wrong advise from bitter people when everything burst siyaqala sikhupha amehlo
We like to put our selves in positions of being used for crumbs to tornish peoples image in just few seconds
The person you are helping is having a massive score to settle, cowardly his gonna use your image, your name and your time to win his fight.
It's time when the accused is found not guilty the one that open a case should do the time inside jail for wasting the government resources.
Bro when you are a man of Truth or an Icon
you must be careful of the woman u work with
purpose should be above pleasure
Girls know they can finish a man in seconds
@@tsviehltheprnciple6582 Women can finish me in seconds!!! Deep!!!
It's time we bring in consent papers before two people start having intimacy.
Important video
@@JustSage-b2y Very sensitive, yet important!
Regarding the core subject matter, rape suspects can no longer argue that consent is subjective. If ever someone withdraws their consent at any level, in the rape capital of the world, you will be sent to jail 👍.
Itumeleng you are wrong sisi
Quick question out of curiosity. Why do you paint your nails?
@@VuyisileLunguza-pw1rj you know, hostility says a lot about a person's character
@@Sizo.has.a.channel Please check out this vid: th-cam.com/video/B6ppuUL-fds/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Up2RA3eQLdU1ks8e
I explain it here
@@VuyisileLunguza-pw1rj 👀
@@pensonmlotshwa I just saw your video answering this question. I ge you. I have a similar story of proving to myself that I can make my own decisions without having to fear societal views.
What I did leaving high school, I decided I want dreadlocks so I'm going to grow them not buy them. I had to do abo blowout and gents were clowning, did cornrows and pigtails and the gents were on my case about my masculinity but because it was about myself and proving I can take my own decisions as a men, i kept at it. Eventually my hair grew long enough to do the dreadlocks but they were short and I still got clowned for them batsi they are pretend locks...ama cheese curls 😂 7 years later the insults were gone and now I was getting offers to buy my dreads.
I've since cut them off because I had achieved the goal I set out to attain all without the fear of society and all that. Challenged myself and came out on top.
Bro, when you are a Man tat has a stand in Truth
@@tsviehltheprnciple6582 He has to stand for his truth!
Is that nail polish
Bra
Thats why you should stop going around and be intentional
Okay i hear all that but do you go out in public with that nail polish 😬
I wonder what current boyfriend is thinking …. Yho! Hay I gender yam though 😰
Girl ‼️‼️‼️ current boyfriend, kodwa you're visiting another man🙃
Anyway
If the allegations are true, I hope justice takes its place.
Asazi ngempela
@@cebilenxumalo kaloku in the screenshots uthi uMam she won’t leave her man for NB …
@@vuyokazi1797 She was dating???
I DIDN’T KNOW THAT!!!
@@cebilenxumalo Yho!!! Why visit another man?!!!
@@vuyokazi1797 Yho! This is deep!
Nothing is gonna happen once he is found not guilty. Ask Tall Ass Mo
And lapho Tall Ass Mo lost so much!
@@pensonmlotshwa you get me? Dude almost killed himself...still fokol happend Mlotshwa...no apologies nothing...
@@DiceRoll213 That’s so deep! Lapho people were laughing at him, calling him all types of names!
@@pensonmlotshwa navese nangicabangisa uSjava!😮💨
@@DiceRoll213That same lady is busy in court as we speak suing both Tolly and McG😂😂
nota can sue for defamation & damages & loss of income.
@@bigthangz5489 Are you sure?
Your plan is to sue a person who doesn’t have money and was in fact trying to get you to put them on?
Lmao my brother this is like asking your hijackers to drop you at the police station.
Paying is a strong proof of consent. Go to royal or summit
o,new nails... yellow. nice ..... meeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaawhhh !!!🐺
@@bigthangz5489 THANK YOU!!!! 🙏🏽
BOKABA not BUKHABA.
Haybo lengqawa,bra why do you have nail polish on?Yeses,now I'm not watching your video's anymore😮😢
This sounds similar to Buccie and Sjava
Itumeleng is lying, she seems to be disturbed young lady who is in need of therapy I believe she is rejected by a lot males and doesn’t get their attention. So she became obsessed with Nota .
Switched off once l realized mans has painted nails
Stop tip towing around this issue bro! We know this chick is talking BS! I don't subscribe to this "believe all women" bs! At this rate we need to install secret CCTV cameras at our cribs!
bokaba is LYING !!!
@@bigthangz5489 Yho! We don’t know. Let’s allow the law to do its thing.
This topic is very sensitive, and I hope it is not True. Why would Nota "allegedly" rape someone? It does not add up. I do not trust Mnguni woman at all.
It’s exactly sensitive.
We need allow for processes to be done.
Mnguni woman? Are you saying she's Nguni??
@@thatot2863 What is she then?
@@lucaskopi9391 does the name itumeleng bokaba sound nguni to you at all ???
@@1684-v9q I do not what she is all I know sothos, Xhosas and zulu sleep with one another and we don't know who is who, except anchor babies all over the place.