Microaggression or Misunderstanding...?

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  • @fifbadaki015
    @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watch the full video here: th-cam.com/video/V86p5gmULPs/w-d-xo.html

  • @ItsNotRealLife
    @ItsNotRealLife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Im a northerner living on the South Coast for the last 27yrs and im constantly being asked where I'm from
    No problem whatsoever

  • @raulromero6462
    @raulromero6462 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love to ask that question because people always assume they know where im from. If the person feels offended is because they are already 3th generation and they love to play the victim. Normally claim african but never lived there.

  • @Parsianking
    @Parsianking 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My goodnees that was worded so well

  • @Rudilsa80
    @Rudilsa80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I live in another country other than my birth country. I'm often asked where I'm from. A simple curiosity has wrongfully been infered as racist.

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My whole childhood growing up in China; the only thing people ever asked me on the street was "Where are you from? Where do you go to school? What do your parents do?" Every time. In that order.
    It got tiresome because I'm an American who was born in Japan and had never set foot in America, so any followup question about America would be wasted on me. And my schooling was inconsistent as hell with a lot of homeschooling which would get me judged. And my parents were entrepreneurs in teaching which constantly got them in trouble with Chinese bureaucrats looking for any excuse to demand a bribe which we couldn't afford.
    It was awkward and unpleasant to get asked where I'm from and what I'm doing there.
    But I never thought of it as racism, though it is; I more thought of it was people being dumb at seeing a white kid and genuinely not knowing what else to talk about because the idea that white kids also have a favorite Chinese snack and TV show just doesn't occur to them in that moment.
    It's mass social-awkwardness because they're sheltered and ignorant. Even as a 9yo that's how I read it.
    I don't live in China anymore, NOT because the country hates Americans (their govt does but a lot of people there are funny as hell and can argue with you about it once you break the ice), but because their uptight govt has dominated every conversation into being about status and correctness so the only people any fun to talk to are the people who are themselves on the outs with the govt, which means as a foreigner talking to them you paint a target on their back.
    If it weren't for the govt situation I'd still be game to go back to China and argue with people about it lol

    • @unitedairlanes5500
      @unitedairlanes5500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You said you never saw these sorts of questions as being racist; but clarified that they actually are racist.
      "But I never thought of it as racism, though it is..."
      In my mind, it's similar to having a full name like Smith Smith. The jokes would quickly become annoying. But you could also easily see yourself doing the same thing if you were in their shoes.
      Excuse my curiosity (and how needlessly confrontational these questions sound), but do you blame them for asking these questions? Do you believe it's reasonable to expect them to see you as just another person on the first meeting? Do you believe the seriousness of the word racist accurately reflects the seriousness of their questioning, despite it being technically correct?
      Thanks for taking the time to read my ramblings.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@unitedairlanes5500 to be clear, they are racially based behaviors, but I didn't read it as primarily Racist and nothing else; I saw it as social awkwardness in this case triggered by a racial element. The issue is the awkwardness, not my race. The same people who talked weird to me would also talk weird to poor people because of the classist component, and that's equally a barrier.
      The racism is there, but it's not the primary issue, is what I'm saying. I admit my op was poorly phrased
      I appreciate the question about blame. Thinking back on it; I don't blame anyone for being curious and wanting to talk to me, especially since they were just using it as a chance to practice their English which is heavily incentivized schooling in China, any more than I'd blame a toddler for being curious about a man in a wheelchair for the first time.
      It's what they do AFTER that makes or breaks it.
      If someone strikes up convo and then goes to "wait so do you watch American TV or local? REALLY? You like Monkey-King? No way! I loved that show!" then that's super cool, they're talking to me like a person.
      It is _technically_ racial that they'd be so surprised a foreigner stuck on local TV would gravitate to the same shows everyone else is watching, but given their lack of context on how foreigners live behind closed doors, that's a totally understandable, _pleasant_ surprise. I could interpret that as capital R Racist if I want, and totally bomb the whole conversation; or I could take the W and continue asking them what they're favorite side-character is (I like the pig-guy).
      On the other hand, when the person just keeps asking me factoids about where I live and what I'm doing there, I quickly get the sense that I'm not a person to them, I'm a foreign object for study and use. Intentionally or no, they're making me feel like a germ getting singled out by a white blood cell for wandering where I'm not welcome.
      And when a person can make me feel like that and not immediately pick up that I'm uncomfortable, or if they know I'm uncomfortable but keep probing me anyways; that tells me they have no empathy for me and just see me as an object. Again, maybe I'm too forgiving or apologist, but I don't see that as racism; I see that as the person being an asshole, and using my race as an excuse to poke someone for no reason.
      If someone says something openly racist about white people, but then immediately hears me out when I punch back and they end up learning about my culture and changing their position a bit; that's a friend right there. They're racist and prejudiced because their fam is ignorant af; but they argued it out with me and we're willing to hear my counter-argument. That's a W. People way less racist have pissed me off way more just simply by being a self-absorbed asshole who can't read the room.
      I get that as a white guy I get the easiest of it in general; China's about the worst I got and even then I just kept to myself and rode it out no problem; but I really do feel like most of these race issues come down to whether or not the instigator uses that for good or evil.
      It's perfectly natural to be weird about a person you've never seen before who has a different culture; like a kid, you ask them stupid questions, make a fool of yourself, and then quickly realize they're just a person like you who happens to have different habits. Racial differences are only a problem when you're looking for problems to be an asshole about.

    • @drwalka10
      @drwalka10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      they don't know you deal with this everyday. People are curious . It's not the same people every time.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drwalka10 Yeah I know that. That's why I don't call it a microaggression

    • @Goldun-nah
      @Goldun-nah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samwallaceart288it’s oddly integu to me you have this expectation of them to be any other way in a vastly racially homogenous country. How long did you live in China? How long did you live in Japan?

  • @todaishemangwiza1475
    @todaishemangwiza1475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny story... Ngozi means danger in my native tounge Chishona.

  • @MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor
    @MayTheOddsBeInYourFavor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YES! But at this point in time, all I can say is sorry if you get offended and move on. If you want to dwell, then that’s the best use of your time. But like NO ONE ELSE GETS OFFENDED WHEN ASKED CONVERSATION STARTERS LIKE THA

  • @siphiwokobese4398
    @siphiwokobese4398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should not be a thing to us, since we do not even know what was said nor the contents of her press tour. Also all perceptions are subjective that's why we vote.

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fulani gave a full account of what was said (if you want to take her at face value) and we know exactly what was said on her press tour - again, she claimed "abuse". The reason I believe we not only can, but actually *_should_* speak on these issues is because they have far reaching implications outside of this specific incident. As you can see throughout these comments, there are many who believe that simply asking the question "where are you from?" is inherently discriminatory if it's being asked by a white person. This is a slippery slope and it represents a shift towards establishing our personal interpretations as objective realities, which is a phenomenon that I think is best avoided. At that point, we are guilty by accusation, regardless of the objective truth of the situation. That, I believe, is a cause worth speaking on.

    • @siphiwokobese4398
      @siphiwokobese4398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fifbadaki015 Their testimonies and what was said may diverge, but anyway; that is true, it can be overdone, with people basically "race baiting". I think the issue here is the assumption that one wishes to engage the question you're asking. Assume everyone is having a bad day, then proceed with your question. Mind you I am neither speaking for or against this topic.

  • @angelastewart6584
    @angelastewart6584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Were you all there? How in the heck do you know the tones or the facial expressions etc. show us an interview with both women together, then come back with your comments.

    • @MrDizyspell
      @MrDizyspell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 calm down ...

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No disrespect, but were *_you_* there? Using your own logic, you also have no right to claim one perspective over the other. So it would seem that we're both relying on the accounts of those involved to reach our conclusions. The difference is, where you seem willing to accept Fulani's account at face value, I and Patience are more skeptical. And the reason for our skepticism is in part due to the fact that by Fulani's own admission, no malice was intended from Lady Hussey (There actually are interviews with both women sitting together after the fact, in case you didn't know that before making this comment). You can read Ngozi's account of the interaction in full. And there, you will see the contextual evidence that suggests that this was more of misunderstanding than a genuine attempt to make a minority woman feel oppressed.

  • @jimmymaximusace
    @jimmymaximusace 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Only God knew her intentions

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In which case it would be profoundly unjust to assume malicious intent and punish her for it, no?
      Context often allows us to gauge intent. You're right that we may never know the absolute truth of the matter, but given the circumstances surrounding their interaction, it is just and fair to consider the possibility that her intent wasn't as described by Fulani.

  • @trudimclaren4301
    @trudimclaren4301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was confusing! The picture was of Patience Xina, but said Fif Badaki! I follow both of you - so now it makes perfect sense (I'm obviously easily confused! 😂). ❤

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha yeah YT Shorts still don't let you pick a thumbnail for some reason. I feel bad because this is my best-performing Short to date and I think that's because people were expecting Patience, not me lol :P

    • @trudimclaren4301
      @trudimclaren4301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fifbadaki015 it was a treat to get you reflecting on her video - two of my favs in one short! That doesn't happen often, and it was very insightful - thank you 🤗

  • @queenofbuttercream
    @queenofbuttercream 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember this... Yeah, i think parts are missing

  • @Lanval_de_Lai
    @Lanval_de_Lai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh I missed that video! I would watch it later, maybe I say things you say there but I'll post it anyway to not forget them.
    I think giving importance on microaggressions is usually focusing in the wrong place, if it's micro then probably is not an aggresion. It could be two things: you are "sensing"(I don't know if it's the correct verb in english) that person is probably treating you different (probably bad) in some way or you think that but it's not true. I think focusing on the action of the person that you think is suspicious is kind of pointless. That person is either discriminative or not, what matters is the mind of that person, not the suspicious actions.
    So I think focusing on the microaggressions is just making people more paranoid. Yes it's normal to feel nervous about actions of others when you can't know what they think, it's perfecly understandable, but the correct thing is to communicate to prove or disprove those thoughts. I also think is not the "victim"'s fault only, we don't know how to communicate well and we all should do our best.

    • @samwallaceart288
      @samwallaceart288 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What most these questions mean is "You're not the same as the norm here, tell me more so I know what to do next"
      It's what the asker does AFTER that's the issue.
      One person will hear the lady talk about her hometown and respond "That's really interesting and something missing from my experience, thanks".
      But another person asking the same question is only using this as an excuse to mock the her "bad English" when she speaks.

  • @juliusdavenport707
    @juliusdavenport707 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Example that some of us are overly emotional

  • @tholoanamakhabane221
    @tholoanamakhabane221 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you’re not South African but the Ngozi name has emphasis on the g like how you would say goat, except add an N at the beginning and replace at with “zi” if that makes sense. It means danger by the way

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ngozi is an east Nigerian name too. With emphasis on the N and Z.

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Interesting that it means "danger" in South Africa...
      I posted this elsewhere, but the name also has roots in West Africa, where the pronunciation is more in-line with how I pronounced it in the video. But this is still really interesting, so thanks for sharing!

  • @csimpsontailoring5972
    @csimpsontailoring5972 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She is from the same place everyone is from " a womb"!
    Was it really interest?

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Given the context of their interaction, it is indeed fair to consider the possibility that an elderly woman might show interest in another woman who was proudly showcasing a culture unlike the rest at a charity event. It's almost more logical to assume that this was her intent than "she wanted to make the woman feel bad".

  • @Fatfit2
    @Fatfit2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    instead of saying, “where are you from”
    phrase as, “what’s the cultural background of that garment or pattern”

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can wear clothes from other nations. So the question is where are YOU from.

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also she is wearing a ridiculous hodgepodge of a garment.

  • @Starboy-mp2ci
    @Starboy-mp2ci 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Aunt name is NGozi. The N is silent. It’s pronounced as Gozi.

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Igbo, it’s not.

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Funnily enough, Fulani's real name is Marlene Headley. She later changed her name to "Ngozi Fulani" to represent her West African heritage. I'm Nigerian (Yoruba to be specific), and I asked my family to make sure my pronunciation was correct before uploading and they all co-signed lol. Plus, I'm pretty sure she refers to herself as NGozi (pronounced "UHN-Gozi) in interviews and speaking events. But thank you for the context!

  • @kimberley6630
    @kimberley6630 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone taking an interest in you is now offensive. I'm done. I'm not going outside anymore.

  • @beviebee4650
    @beviebee4650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Don't Know Lady Hussey So Don't Know Her Motive

  • @real.luka_smith
    @real.luka_smith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He name means "Danger" in Zulu, however her surname is not from the southern part of africa....

    • @senoritaawesomee
      @senoritaawesomee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ngozi is a nigerian name also

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Both Ngozi and Fulani are linked to Nigeria.
      But it’s in the weirdest way. No one named Ngozi will be named Fulani. I doubt that sort of intermarriage goes on in Nigeria between Fulani northerners and the East.
      But someone can correct me here.

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amyqb117 Her real name is Marlene Headley and she changed her name to "Ngozi Fulani" to reflect her West African heritage. She just chose the names 'randomly' so you're probably correct in your analysis.

  • @AliB1103
    @AliB1103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need to learn your history dude before you make comments like this. It’s typical of your age because Black History is being erased so you don’t know any better.

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old do you think I am? And why do you think the only reason I don't agree with you is because I "don't know black history"? I could respond to you by saying, "You need to learn HISTORY (not "yours" or "mine", but the entirety of the concept) because if you think that this type of reverse-discriminatory mindset coming from a minority population will get us to any type of 'liberation' or 'freedom', then you have not truly grasped the fragile dynamics of minority/majority populations as seen throughout human history." But I don't know you. Perhaps you're a historian, and you do understand what I've just explained, but you've just come to a different conclusion. In which case, let us amicably discuss instead of jumping to inane assumptions about age or education level. Going forward, I'd suggest that if you disagree with someone, focus on the argument, and refrain from making frivolous assumptions about a person in order to make your point. I wish you the best.

  • @_Divine1
    @_Divine1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Many of them think and act like they know your culture better than you. Soumds like the person asking was being sarcastic. If it was that important after fulani refused to respond, she should have Googled it.

    • @sibusiso2841
      @sibusiso2841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Googled what? If I see some Asian wearing their ethnical/cultural clothes, what point of reference do I have to narrow it down in a google search?

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No offense, but it sounds like you don't actually know the context of this specific situation. Lady Hussey is an 80-year-old woman. From Fulani's own account of the situation, there was no sarcasm intended. From the account (and the after-the-fact interviews), it seems Lady Hussey was genuinely confused as to why Fulani was obfuscating, and so she (inappropriately) pressed on questioning. But even Fulani admitted after-the-fact that there was no malice (and definitely no sarcasm) in her intent.

  • @BiggestBossify
    @BiggestBossify 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stop asking people where they're from....Mind your own business & leave people alone...U might just keep ur job

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know if you know the context of this actual incident, but they were at a charity event. Introductions were necessary. Fulani was dressed in traditional West-African attire, and "where are you from?" is an innocuous ice-breaker in almost every scenario not involving Black people in The West. "Mind your own business" isn't an appropriate analysis of this particular situation.

  • @CarolynEdwards-w5k
    @CarolynEdwards-w5k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Because the woman that had to resign had no business walking up to one individual questioning her about herself😂 because of her perception of how the lady was dressed she assumed the lady was from somewhere else other than where she was from😂 she did not say hi what's your name my name is she went straight into what could have felt like interrogation

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So in your mind, before someone asks where are you from, they must ask your name? Ask about your life? Ask about the weather? Anything but what was curious to them? Loool. Ridiculous.

    • @fifbadaki015
      @fifbadaki015  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn't her "perception" of how the lady was dressed - it was how the lady was dressed. By her own account, Fulani was dressed in West-African clothing. It is illogical to present as a West-African in a British environment while vilifying anyone who sees you as such. Funnily enough, it is very difficult to find evidence of non-African groups showcasing their culture and proceeding to take offense when asked about said culture. This mentality seems to be endemic to Africans in the West.
      Also, I'm not sure if you realize that this was a charity event..? Lady Hussey didn't single Fulani out and chase her around. They were expected to make introductions. "Where are you from" is the most common ice-breaker in the world. The intent, even by Fulani's own admission, was non-malicious.