If she gets it restored, she might not make a profit (because she would be reluctant to sell), but she could enjoy her historic time piece in a whole new way. Either way, it's great.
Fwoah! That is a magnificent piece isnt it. One can imagine, back in the day staring up at those weighty pendulums swinging rhythmically. What a glorious sight it must have been... to gaze in wonder at those hands splayed across this spectacular towering clock. Oh goodness. Oh suits you. Oh.
No f'n way. This was exhilarating. Great discovery on behalf of Lady Kilbracken. Would love to see this dear "distressed" piece restored and up to auction. On second thought, perhaps the patina makes it that much more handsome.
Lady Sue Kilbracken, if you happen to read this, I would gladly restore the lacquer part if you want to. Pro bono, just for the pleasure of restoring it. I am an Urushi and Makie restorer with a 15 years experience in Japan, and i am certain that i could just bring out the original pattern, which seems more Japanese then Chinese, without making it look too new just much less damaged, and preserving the authenticity of the work and of the clock. But i know absolutely nothing about clocks so all i can do is restore the lacquer work and all I'd ask is you to purchase the gold foil required. I can provide free of charge the lacquer myself and i'd do the rest for free as well. This is a 3 months job and it has to be done during the rainy season (which in the UK is pretty much all the time i assume) because lacquer only dries and harden when the atmosphere is humid. I think this piece has either spent a lot of time in the sun and/or in dry places of maybe near a fireplace and this is what damaged it so badly. Lacquer must be kept in a cool and humid area.
@@redwoods7370 Thank you very much. This type or experience and opportunity is invaluable for craftspeople. Working on a piece like this is a wonderful way to learn for us, and it adds to our expertise. It would be equally generous of Sue to agree to let me work on it. Here is the kind of technique i use. And this is the gentleman i learned from th-cam.com/video/iGnX2RgZ4Hs/w-d-xo.html
Same. If I were to keep it, I'd still make a little bit of restoration of the clock face to remove the black paint, maybe mount the tin face on the wall next to it for historical context, and then I'd place a clear laquer or something to try to maintain its present condition by avoiding further deterioration.
It would be a sin to "restore" this clock. You would just have a new clock. It's history and patina would be destroyed. I'd pay to have the black paint around the outside removed and that is all. You could have a brand new one made that would look exactly like the restored old one if that's what you wanted. I'd rather have an un-restored old one in this case.
Exactly. She should have been working again if she wants to and the black paint should be removed but that's about it. You can't bring the past back. And you can't (pun intended) turn back time.
I gotta get this dyslexia inspired thought out of my mind: I'm picturing an ambulance chaser in a local TV ad. "Lady Sue! The Damnsel that will help YOUR distress!"
@@hellothere9848 maybe the lady who "restored" the painting of Christ in Spain and left him looking like a monkey has an opening in her restoration schedule
Not exactly the same at all. On the original dial, the 25 and the 35 numbers were upside down. Not so on the replacement dial. Also notice the 20 and the 40 are not the same.
Think the first thing to do would at least get it running. Dont worry about getting the full thing restored. Just get it up and running. Then start saving up Restoration funds. Put some Money aside each month, until saved up enough to be able to get it Restored.
Would you have any clue where I can find the clip before this one? It's supposed to be a statue riding on some kind of animal in this episode. Can't seem to find it anywhere and don't really remember what the statue was called.
all people talk about restoration and no one speaks about HOW LOUZY was this idea to make people pay for owning a watch and the fact they only put clocks in pubs to force them to have drinks
The general public stopped buying clocks? How is that possible? How would someone predict that taxing a piece of technology would drive suppliers out of business? Oh, not the British?
I think consumption taxes are less insane than income tax. At least there's an element of choice. If you can do without the item, you don't have to pay the tax. There's zero choice with income tax.
He put this poor woman through a 6 minute history lesson on clocks only for her to be let down like that. That was pure agony for me and I skipped to the end.
@@hawaii3100 Don't agree obviously. I felt like I was being dragged through the mud. Yes I have been dragged through the mud on exercise with the R A N.
So she was right both times the expert said “no”. Hate it when people do that. Trying to look like the clever one when the other person actually knows what they’re talking about.
I imagine there is a curve, for most taxes, that peaks. But in this case it sounds like it simply damaged the economy and likely reduced future taxes even after the law was repealed.
That is categorically wrong. When taxes are used to pay the interest on services that all citizens use. There is a key thing that a lot of goofball conservatives don’t understand about government deficits, borrowing, and spending. When the government borrows money it borrows it at a much lower interest rate than most citizens. Governments, just like companies and individuals, do have to keep borrowing money in order to keep having it available at low interest rates. That means that if government spending is effectively spent on services that most citizens use, then those programs cost less overall then they would if individuals have to pay out of pocket. The issue has never been tax collecting, borrowing, and social programs. The issue is shitty distribution, which occurs when two parties have to compromise and corruption redirects a big portion of the money to bullshit pork projects. If what you’re saying is true then Republican presidents would see reductions in inflation and deficit because of conservative policies. This is never true. Every Republican in modern times has increased the deficit and raised inflation. Most have increased tax revenue collected from individuals while decreasing it for the wealthy and corporations. You’re being scammed homie. Even casual research proves it.
"Would you be happy if myself and one of my assistants took the dial off?" Send this valuer chappie back to school! The very idea of putting oneself FIRST in mentioning two individuals, and of using "myself" instead of "I" ! I mean to say, where did this fellow get his wayward and inadequate education?
- I think it had something to do with a tax on clock that was introduced. - No, the prime minister at the time introduced a tax on clocks Why can't Brit ever recognize that someone else is right and need to find the bid they are wrong about. From a Japanese point of view this is so weird to watch the host of the show react so negatively to what the lady said. We have the same show in Japan and when a person knows even just a little bit about the history of an item, the host always congratulates them and point out how please he is when someone actually did their homework. But here the guy had to try to prove that woman wrong. I find it really disturbing. My mother was once wearing a Kimono in London and one man out of nowhere came and told her that the pattern was rabbits because it was fertility, and my mother told the man that this was because this was early september and in Japan the month is associated with the full moon and the moon is associated with the rabbit. And the man told her that SHE was wrong and that this was a sign of fertility. My mother found it hilarious that this English man would try to teach her the symbolic of rabbits on her own Kimono. So she simply said, you must be right and i must be wrong. And the man had the nerve to tell her "You see you learned something you didn't know about the symbolic of rabbits in Japan". You love confrontation in the west, you find it amusing to tell people that they are wrong.
@@Alucard-gt1zf Sorry, I stopped reading after "In Japan do you also.....) Alucard 8 minutes ago In Japan do you also only listen to half of what people are saying?
So based on two examples in the UK, you paint the entire west as confrontational. I'm sure we could find a couple people in Japan who are a bit wacky or hold unconventional views, should we then infer all Eastern people are like that?
erm collectors pay top dollar for top quality they dont pay for something that is falling apart, rotting or has conditions issues, just like books, guns, old documents it needs to be restored by professionals who keep it original.
In Texas, carpenters and plumbers, antique restorers, et all, have to pay a yearly tax on all their tools, on going. If the state or county thinks your lying, they will send officials out to visit you and your tools and do an appraisal, and fine you accordingly.
This is how a restorer would approach this sort of distressed item. The question of if it worth bringing back, really effects the sitting value. It would not be the approach of a person selling, but that is not what this show is. This is valuation only.
@@email4664 Way to make the germane boring.🤣 Its not an estimation show genius. Its a reality show. Doing what you profess as the best way🙄is anticlimactic wnd boring.😀 The only reason you like it is you are boring too.
@@dlighted8861 Yep, that is why I own and operate my own collection of warbird aircraft, travel the world doing shows with restored machines and buying new projects for my shop- Enjoying collecting art, and sampling the world's cuisine. Yep, pretty boring. Lucky for you, I just had a tooth pulled and had some free time to enjoy some telly on an interesting topic, but instead, I am having what should be a conversation- Perhaps I should just tell you to go eat chain shitbird.
@@email4664 All that makes you is a braggart. If I was a braggart I would tell you about the twenty five thousand hours of volunteer work I have done but talking to a braggart is boring. All in all all you are is a small minded boob too big to admit you were wrong. You bore me and I will no longer respond to your self serving nonsense.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray In medieval times every village had a bat finder, just as they had a carpenter, a baker and a blacksmith. I come from a long and venerated line of such professionals. But no, it isn’t. Didn’t he say something like “would it be ok if myself, along with my technicians, fixed the clock?” He should have said “I”? Or did I mishear? I can’t watch it again, since I’ve already overestimated my interest in clocks and Lady Sue.
I love his hopeful look of anticipation at the prospect of taking the clock's dial off.
Would you... (salivating audibly)... be happy..........
as if he had not looked at all the things first
I hope she restores it or somebody does. Magnificent story behind a gem of the realm
I was hoping for a happier ending
No no no!! Leave it as it is. There's the history.
Wonderful piece thanks for sharing 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Wonderful - ‘historical forensics’ - such culture!
Get it restored! It’s beautiful and I can only imagine how stunning that looked when it was made.
Tell that to 2013 video upload date
@@1sonyzz oh well hope it was restored
@@1sonyzz What's ten years?
If she gets it restored, she might not make a profit (because she would be reluctant to sell), but she could enjoy her historic time piece in a whole new way. Either way, it's great.
She was clearly never interested in "enjoying it". She wanted to make some wonga.
@@Revelian1982 How do you figure that?
@@MrMenefrego1 She took it to the show.
@@Revelian1982 Good point! Sorry I missed that, I'm really old.
@@MrMenefrego1 That's okay, squire.
"the act was repealed"... Now when do we hear that term these days ?!?!
Politicians admitting they are pricks ?
YEAH.... NEVER !!!
Poll tax?
Sue does love a big clock, so does my wife but unfortunately I don’t have one to give her…😀
Fwoah! That is a magnificent piece isnt it. One can imagine, back in the day staring up at those weighty pendulums swinging rhythmically. What a glorious sight it must have been... to gaze in wonder at those hands splayed across this spectacular towering clock. Oh goodness. Oh suits you. Oh.
No f'n way. This was exhilarating. Great discovery on behalf of Lady Kilbracken. Would love to see this dear "distressed" piece restored and up to auction. On second thought, perhaps the patina makes it that much more handsome.
Lady Sue Kilbracken, if you happen to read this, I would gladly restore the lacquer part if you want to. Pro bono, just for the pleasure of restoring it. I am an Urushi and Makie restorer with a 15 years experience in Japan, and i am certain that i could just bring out the original pattern, which seems more Japanese then Chinese, without making it look too new just much less damaged, and preserving the authenticity of the work and of the clock.
But i know absolutely nothing about clocks so all i can do is restore the lacquer work and all I'd ask is you to purchase the gold foil required. I can provide free of charge the lacquer myself and i'd do the rest for free as well. This is a 3 months job and it has to be done during the rainy season (which in the UK is pretty much all the time i assume) because lacquer only dries and harden when the atmosphere is humid.
I think this piece has either spent a lot of time in the sun and/or in dry places of maybe near a fireplace and this is what damaged it so badly. Lacquer must be kept in a cool and humid area.
What a generous offer!
@@redwoods7370 Thank you very much.
This type or experience and opportunity is invaluable for craftspeople. Working on a piece like this is a wonderful way to learn for us, and it adds to our expertise.
It would be equally generous of Sue to agree to let me work on it.
Here is the kind of technique i use. And this is the gentleman i learned from
th-cam.com/video/iGnX2RgZ4Hs/w-d-xo.html
Desperate much
@@monkeytennis8861 How so ?
lol simp
lady sue,what a lovely lady
Airhead
I laughed at how all the questions he asked she was wrong 😀😆😆
When you're a lady and the first time in your adult life somebody repeatedly tells you that you are wrong.
She wasn’t far off
Her answers were actually correct but he's the expert so it's "no, sorry, wrong again"
lovely and interesting.
Can’t decide whether I would keep it in its original condition just for the history, or restore to enjoy its original beauty…
Same. If I were to keep it, I'd still make a little bit of restoration of the clock face to remove the black paint, maybe mount the tin face on the wall next to it for historical context, and then I'd place a clear laquer or something to try to maintain its present condition by avoiding further deterioration.
Sue must have been weighed down carrying that.
Notice her Title, "Lady's" don't carry old clocks, they have one of the servants do the heavy lifting.
@@jimboyer5382 Lady Sue Kilbracken doesn’t have servants. The title doesn’t guarantee money.
@@jimboyer5382 And the light lifting too ...
If nothing else I would pay the £400 just to get it working.
That’s an enormous clock!
I like a big clock! Have you seen a clock as big as this before?
No ,it really is an impressive clock alright
Etcetc
It's for someone who has a lot of time .... LOL
When you have a clock that big you need to lubricate it well to keep the strokes regular.
where could a clock this big even fit?
Your mother told me that once.
@@ecoworrier yes and you really need to be hands on to take good care of a big clock
“His tie motif was quite fitting for this segment” Posh accent 😌
Absolutely fascinating
I'd love to get an update on the clock.
send that back to the parliament and exchange it for black pudding and 5 pence!
Richard Price was a British Airways B777 Captain. That was his day job.
One of the greats --so English, probably retired now, havent seen him for ages.
I read that description wayyy to fast 🤣
The way they fokin talk lmao
It would be a sin to "restore" this clock. You would just have a new clock. It's history and patina would be destroyed. I'd pay to have the black paint around the outside removed and that is all. You could have a brand new one made that would look exactly like the restored old one if that's what you wanted. I'd rather have an un-restored old one in this case.
Exactly. She should have been working again if she wants to and the black paint should be removed but that's about it.
You can't bring the past back. And you can't (pun intended) turn back time.
O, really such a wonderful clock
How fascinating.
It takes a rare kind of bastard to tax clocks and watches
From title I thought a lady sued someone named Kilbracken and her clock for a moment.
I was picturing an ambulance chaser in a local TV ad. "Lady Sue! The Damnsel that will help YOUR distress!"
The movement restoration price is low. It was in a fire too and is about 240 years old and will have wear and tear.
No it was a lot earlier than that.. (33 years really?)
yeah, he was a jerk
I'm surprised it's worth that much in that condition.
It sounds like she has an Aussie accent!
Yes about 80%. With 20% rich British.
I gotta get this dyslexia inspired thought out of my mind: I'm picturing an ambulance chaser in a local TV ad. "Lady Sue! The Damnsel that will help YOUR distress!"
She knew nothing of the clock, this guy contradicted her every fact. Ha ha!
Wow
Taxing time.
Come on lady put your money in your pocket and get it restored!!!!!
Do you know what we call this clock.. why yes it's a tick tock clock. 🇬🇧👍
Ohhhh deah .... Why I would think it's a rautha Big Clock now isn't it?
wow she has a very large clock. She wants to make sure she cleans her clock.
Parliament wasn’t too successful with their taxing during the mid late 1700’s
She should start a funding page to raise money for the restoration
Restoration cost seems reasonable.
🤣😂🤣 to a chump, maybe
Maybe the movement, but not the case 🤣
@@Marcel_Audubon Silly post Marcel.
@@hellothere9848 maybe the lady who "restored" the painting of Christ in Spain and left him looking like a monkey has an opening in her restoration schedule
In your expert opinion
Reveals a face exactly the same as the one taken off 🤣
Not exactly the same at all. On the original dial, the 25 and the 35 numbers were upside down. Not so on the replacement dial. Also notice the 20 and the 40 are not the same.
It's the original face though!?!
@Jambo Look at the pictures, there are seconds marked also 5 through 60.
1820.
Obviously don’t answer any of his questions your ladyship, because he’s seems to enjoy telling you your wrong!
Lol this clock is older than Australia
Before the OFFICIAL settling of Australia.
Think the first thing to do would at least get it running. Dont worry about getting the full thing restored. Just get it up and running. Then start saving up Restoration funds. Put some Money aside each month, until saved up enough to be able to get it Restored.
Would you have any clue where I can find the clip before this one? It's supposed to be a statue riding on some kind of animal in this episode. Can't seem to find it anywhere and don't really remember what the statue was called.
Look better if they made it digital...
Lady Sue Kilbracken is worth a google herself.
She's not restored it yet, she's taking her time...
he so trying not to tell her its basically worthless now
someone could not read the time from the other end of customs house chambers...
I wouldn’t touch it, aside from having black spray paint removed by a restorer.
It is wrong that there is an ad on this video
all people talk about restoration and no one speaks about HOW LOUZY was this idea to make people pay for owning a watch and the fact they only put clocks in pubs to force them to have drinks
Send it to the repair shop let them do there magic!!!
Take it to bbc repair shop.
Did no one offer to clean her clock?
Damn I thought she sues the town but why her clock ? Waiting all along the video for the guy to break the clock somehow
The general public stopped buying clocks? How is that possible? How would someone predict that taxing a piece of technology would drive suppliers out of business? Oh, not the British?
A stupid government taxing time. Insane, just like today
Dont forget window tax as well. 🇬🇧👍
I think consumption taxes are less insane than income tax. At least there's an element of choice. If you can do without the item, you don't have to pay the tax. There's zero choice with income tax.
I've always wanted to know, what's the magic number when taxes will be high enough? I don't believe the government will ever stop raising taxes
2 of the poshest accents ever
He put this poor woman through a 6 minute history lesson on clocks only for her to be let down like that. That was pure agony for me and I skipped to the end.
No.. The story is the best part.
@@hawaii3100 Don't agree obviously. I felt like I was being dragged through the mud. Yes I have been dragged through the mud on exercise with the R A N.
That's the bread and butter of this show.
i would spend the money to restore it = to get ! 15 thousand pound ! spend 6 and get 15 = yes do it !
So she was right both times the expert said “no”. Hate it when people do that. Trying to look like the clever one when the other person actually knows what they’re talking about.
Except she didn't really
She said it was an act of Parliament clock when it's actually called a tavern clock
her history of the clock was 0 !!
could she get any more things wrong!
Take. The. Clock. To. The. Repair. Shop. king. Charles. Took. His
Tax for clocks and watches? 😂😂😂😂
It's equal to taxing big screen tellies nowadays. You pay a lot less taxes if you own a 32 inch and a small fortune if you own a 75 inch.
Don't put ideas into there heads
Don't give the US tax and spend Dems any ideas !!! They think it lowers inflation ....
*removes dial* giant rat jumps out
A small but useful example of what happens when taxes are increased: It reduces tax revenue and shuts down businesses.
I imagine there is a curve, for most taxes, that peaks. But in this case it sounds like it simply damaged the economy and likely reduced future taxes even after the law was repealed.
That is categorically wrong. When taxes are used to pay the interest on services that all citizens use. There is a key thing that a lot of goofball conservatives don’t understand about government deficits, borrowing, and spending. When the government borrows money it borrows it at a much lower interest rate than most citizens. Governments, just like companies and individuals, do have to keep borrowing money in order to keep having it available at low interest rates. That means that if government spending is effectively spent on services that most citizens use, then those programs cost less overall then they would if individuals have to pay out of pocket. The issue has never been tax collecting, borrowing, and social programs. The issue is shitty distribution, which occurs when two parties have to compromise and corruption redirects a big portion of the money to bullshit pork projects. If what you’re saying is true then Republican presidents would see reductions in inflation and deficit because of conservative policies. This is never true. Every Republican in modern times has increased the deficit and raised inflation. Most have increased tax revenue collected from individuals while decreasing it for the wealthy and corporations. You’re being scammed homie. Even casual research proves it.
Thanks Hayek
And to think after all these centuries politicians still haven't figured this out
@@DeepSouthBuilder obviously casual research is all you know, most likely confirmation research at that
led zep
Is she Australian?
"Would you be happy if myself and one of my assistants took the dial off?" Send this valuer chappie back to school! The very idea of putting oneself FIRST in mentioning two individuals, and of using "myself" instead of "I" ! I mean to say, where did this fellow get his wayward and inadequate education?
Don't transport your antique weighted movement clocks with the weight in place, please !!!! Remove the weight !!!
I never transport my antique weighted movement clocks with the weight in place.
Like she doesn't have 20 more in perfect condition
Antique commentator - Know your place and stop correcting her Ladyship!
- I think it had something to do with a tax on clock that was introduced.
- No, the prime minister at the time introduced a tax on clocks
Why can't Brit ever recognize that someone else is right and need to find the bid they are wrong about.
From a Japanese point of view this is so weird to watch the host of the show react so negatively to what the lady said.
We have the same show in Japan and when a person knows even just a little bit about the history of an item, the host always congratulates them and point out how please he is when someone actually did their homework. But here the guy had to try to prove that woman wrong.
I find it really disturbing.
My mother was once wearing a Kimono in London and one man out of nowhere came and told her that the pattern was rabbits because it was fertility, and my mother told the man that this was because this was early september and in Japan the month is associated with the full moon and the moon is associated with the rabbit. And the man told her that SHE was wrong and that this was a sign of fertility. My mother found it hilarious that this English man would try to teach her the symbolic of rabbits on her own Kimono. So she simply said, you must be right and i must be wrong. And the man had the nerve to tell her "You see you learned something you didn't know about the symbolic of rabbits in Japan".
You love confrontation in the west, you find it amusing to tell people that they are wrong.
In Japan do you also only listen to half of what people are saying?
@@Alucard-gt1zf Sorry, I stopped reading after "In Japan do you also.....)
Alucard
8 minutes ago
In Japan do you also only listen to half of what people are saying?
@Mattimus Smatt You didn't get the point of my comment.
@Mattimus Smatt Fair enough. But there's more to it/
So based on two examples in the UK, you paint the entire west as confrontational. I'm sure we could find a couple people in Japan who are a bit wacky or hold unconventional views, should we then infer all Eastern people are like that?
She sounds Australian
She is
There's a reason for that.
erm collectors pay top dollar for top quality they dont pay for something that is falling apart, rotting or has conditions issues, just like books, guns, old documents it needs to be restored by professionals who keep it original.
Tell me just how is it a good idea to bleed the hell out of people taxing clocks.? There are no other words for it but criminal and robbery.
In Texas, carpenters and plumbers, antique restorers, et all, have to pay a yearly tax on all their tools, on going. If the state or county thinks your lying, they will send officials out to visit you and your tools and do an appraisal, and fine you accordingly.
@@jimboyer5382 I'm surprised. That doesn't sound like Texas. I'm sure you are telling the truth. It's just surprising.
Much ado about (almost) nothing....
God, she was horribly misinformed
Well over priced value.
Dummy estimator. You never work down in price,always upwards.
This is how a restorer would approach this sort of distressed item. The question of if it worth bringing back, really effects the sitting value. It would not be the approach of a person selling, but that is not what this show is. This is valuation only.
@@email4664 Way to make the germane boring.🤣 Its not an estimation show genius. Its a reality show. Doing what you profess as the best way🙄is anticlimactic wnd boring.😀 The only reason you like it is you are boring too.
@@dlighted8861 Yep, that is why I own and operate my own collection of warbird aircraft, travel the world doing shows with restored machines and buying new projects for my shop- Enjoying collecting art, and sampling the world's cuisine. Yep, pretty boring. Lucky for you, I just had a tooth pulled and had some free time to enjoy some telly on an interesting topic, but instead, I am having what should be a conversation- Perhaps I should just tell you to go eat chain shitbird.
@@email4664 All that makes you is a braggart. If I was a braggart I would tell you about the twenty five thousand hours of volunteer work I have done but talking to a braggart is boring. All in all all you are is a small minded boob too big to admit you were wrong. You bore me and I will no longer respond to your self serving nonsense.
@@dlighted8861 lol kiddo
Her constant reactions are so fake. She just wants to know how much money she can make.
Where did he go to school?
It was NOT a grammar school!
Using the reflexive pronoun as an objective. Shame.
Don’t you mean subjective, not objective?
@@albertbatfinder5240 No.
And is "Batfinder" your real surname?
@@MichaelKingsfordGray In medieval times every village had a bat finder, just as they had a carpenter, a baker and a blacksmith. I come from a long and venerated line of such professionals. But no, it isn’t.
Didn’t he say something like “would it be ok if myself, along with my technicians, fixed the clock?” He should have said “I”? Or did I mishear? I can’t watch it again, since I’ve already overestimated my interest in clocks and Lady Sue.
@@albertbatfinder5240 I judge you to be untruthful.
I despise cowards.
Lying cowards even more so.
Go away.
bro words are words who cares what oreder they go in lmao
🤣🤣🤣