The thing about the senses is that, if I’m not mistaken, each sense is caused by a different type of nerve-ending. Touch is a nerve ending throughout your body that senses both pain and pressure, scent and taste are two separate chemical nerves (molecules come in contact with the receivers and the nerve sends a specific signal to the brain), sight is based on light-sensing nerves in the eyes, and hearing is a really complex process in the ear that senses, specifically, vibrations in the air. So balance/being able to tell which way “down” is, while technically a “sensation of touch,” is caused by a liquid in the ears that tickles some hairs and stuff and that sends a signal to the brain. It’s a very specific process. And it’s not the only “sensation” caused by touch. Hearing is technically touch, because the air bounces off off your eardrums and through your ear canal. And with Burnie’s point about senses being independent.... anybody ever hold their nose and eat an apple? Or a potato? Or maybe an onion? Spoiler alert-they all taste the same. The only thing that makes them “taste” different is their smells. And that’s a scientific fact right there. Scent 100% confirmed DOES enhance flavor.
if it's a sense, it's defined by its Latin name confirming it is a "...ception" class of word, as far as I'm aware. Scientific definition is different from Burnie's layman definition is my point.
Burnie’s just wrong about the senses. I don’t actually believe this, but you could even say that every sense is a form of touch; light touches your eyes and interacts with them so you can see, soundwaves touch the insides of your ears so you can hear, microscopic particles touch the inside of your nose so you can smell, and food touches your tastebuds so you can taste. It’s all about semantics.
wow I didn't expect someone to get so mad about an opinion. Honestly it's more of an opinion base answer and down to interpretation. Notice I said 'I think' rather rather than 'is'. That's because I understand that something like this can't actually be proven either way.
MegaKrage out of interest. How would you explain something like a head ache because for me sense of pain is separate from touch. And your heads not aching because something poking into it
Burnie's definition makes no sense. Technically sight is just light touching your eye balls, smell is just air touching your nose, sound is just air touching your ear drums, and temperature is just air or liquid touching your skin. What's his point? Also, smell and taste are two collaborative senses.
The sense of not feeling temperature there are people born with a condition that makes it that their body cant feel temperature so does that count as a sense then according to Burnies logic?
Also I believe that Gus is wrong about you physically feeling hot and cold. From my limited school knowledge of hot and cold, its tranported through blood vessels. When blood flows to the hypathalamus in your brain it detects wether your blood is too hot or too cold. It will then take appropriate action such as sweating to increase heat loss or shiver to create energy is the muscel cells through glucose and respiration. The blood cells also either vasodialte or vasoconstrict based on the temperature of hot or cold. So feeling too hot and too cold is more of a anatomic thing and less of a physical.
To be fair, now that we've been to the moon people have seen the world as round. Though one could argue that maybe we could have thought the world was an oval until we went to space.
Kazumaster scientists are not even sure. every research done about senses give arbitrary meaning to the word sense. and some categorize senses if scientists think there are more then 5. other senses that are not the main 5 are basically sub-senses
+MegaKrage ...exept burnie's argument are not valid: you can lose your sense of temperature but still have your sense of touch, balance is and independant sense helped by your sight just like your taste is an independant sense helped by your smell, and almost everything they mentionned can be classified as differant sense as they are detected by your body with differant type of nerve.
if you can sense it its not a sens its like saying you can feel the air around me well you just fucking said i can feel witch is a sense itself so there is only five maybe more but we have not discovered them
If you didn't have the sense of touch you couldn't feel pressure because pressure is just air pushing on you, air has mass and people get that confused a lot just because they can't see it. and regardless of any of this senses are still an abstract concept like Burnie said, it is something we made up to represent sensation that we are able to feel, i could name millions upon millions of senses if i were to apply one sense to every single nerve ending in your body, the five senses were put into use because they generalize everything we feel and experience. we could call the sense of sight the sense of cones, the sense of RGB color perception and so on. of course there are millions of senses if you apply every component of a sensation to a specified sense, but what Burnie is saying is that a sense is something we made up to generalize understand and teach senses, just because some dipshit scientist wants to make the "senses" a more comprehensive subject doesn't mean that it's necessary or that anything new has been proven. they are both right Burnie just failed to properly articulate his argument in a manner that allowed the horde of stupid people that are the comment section to understand his point.
TheUnKnownGamer heat however is radiation. Which increases the temperature of your body. So its seen as a sense of touch. Everything can be interpreted as a sense of touch. I know there are more than 5 senses. But its easy for someone to say how things could relate. Even if they dont know a lot on the subject
Well we have senses like the pH of our blood (if it shifts even slightly higher or lower than 7.4 it will kill you). But yeah we don't need those to be active because any animal that had to actively regulate it's blood pH died and didn't spread that particular gene. So yeah we sense the pH of our blood but we dont need that feedback so we don't hear that
Burnie's argument about the senses is so frustrating. He's basically saying: "I know that there's a ton of scientific studies that prove me wrong, but I'm going to continue to be wrong because I'm too stubborn." It's like disagreeing with evolution. It's ridiculous.
Hello again. First point: Burnie and Gus are right, it's all sub categories, if it wasn't there'd would be a billion senses. It's just ridiculous. Second point: Evolution is just a theory, although I personally do see it as a fact, it's not, it's still just a theory, like the big bang. Furthermore, it is not ridiculous to agree or disagree with anything on the topic, 5 senses, 50 senses, 100000 senses, it doesn't really matter, it is how you, as an individual interpret reality, fact, theory, etc.
Look, man. I'm not a doctor, or a scientist, and I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure it'll come under the 5 senses and their million sub-categories. No matter what, you can put pretty much anything into one (or more) of the 5 senses.
Jupiter In Gold wouldnt everything besides sight be a sense of touch then? How the particles interact with your nose. You feel them. Touch, its touch. Hearing, you feel vibrations in your ears. Taste. Same as smell
John Palmer yep, but in this case, burnie is being really stupid (which is not his job) and insisting that he is right because he "doesnt agree" with scientific proof an nature... gavin doesnt do that. the second somebody proves him wrong, he doesnt just continue like an idiot.
***** I agree with Burnie. Being able to detect gravity and balance is linked to the utricle and the saccule which use sensory hair to detect balance by telling the brain how the body is oriented. So, it's actually touch. Whoever said there are more senses are just blurring the lines.
Yeah burnie just thinks at a low level. You can sort of use an analogy to compare human sensors with machines, and human senses capture in analog. Technically everything is touch, light touching your eyes, sound vibrating your ears if you think about it in that stupid way. And if only the five senses exist, what about balance? Or temperature? Touch tells you the degree to how hot an object is? You can incorrectly say that we interact with the world using these five senses, but even then they are not the only senses the humans have unlike what burnie is implying.
lol, gavin's look at his beer at the moment gus started talking about a cup of old piss is priceless 12:44
Your sense of smell greatly influences your sense of taste.
krispyKRAKEN yes, but they work indepedantly. they talked about it in a different podcast with that guy that cant smell.
They work independently it just so happens they both create sensations in the brain which gives the perception they work together.
Based on Burnie's logic, there isn't a sense of hearing, it's just another sense of touch...
The thing about the senses is that, if I’m not mistaken, each sense is caused by a different type of nerve-ending. Touch is a nerve ending throughout your body that senses both pain and pressure, scent and taste are two separate chemical nerves (molecules come in contact with the receivers and the nerve sends a specific signal to the brain), sight is based on light-sensing nerves in the eyes, and hearing is a really complex process in the ear that senses, specifically, vibrations in the air. So balance/being able to tell which way “down” is, while technically a “sensation of touch,” is caused by a liquid in the ears that tickles some hairs and stuff and that sends a signal to the brain. It’s a very specific process. And it’s not the only “sensation” caused by touch. Hearing is technically touch, because the air bounces off off your eardrums and through your ear canal. And with Burnie’s point about senses being independent.... anybody ever hold their nose and eat an apple? Or a potato? Or maybe an onion? Spoiler alert-they all taste the same. The only thing that makes them “taste” different is their smells. And that’s a scientific fact right there. Scent 100% confirmed DOES enhance flavor.
I will never believe that we have more than 5 senses
Man it's weird to now understand the QI and Karl Pilkington reference when 8 years ago had no idea
if it's a sense, it's defined by its Latin name confirming it is a "...ception" class of word, as far as I'm aware. Scientific definition is different from Burnie's layman definition is my point.
Burnie’s just wrong about the senses. I don’t actually believe this, but you could even say that every sense is a form of touch; light touches your eyes and interacts with them so you can see, soundwaves touch the insides of your ears so you can hear, microscopic particles touch the inside of your nose so you can smell, and food touches your tastebuds so you can taste. It’s all about semantics.
god damn gus. why would he judge who a person is just by the word hello. like holy shit
I agree with gavin he's just so bad at backing up his opinion
It actually annoys me how much i think Burny is wrong about the senses
with his explanation sight would be touch, too. photons of light touching the retina.
***** and hearing would be touch too, the feeling of your ear drums moving with other vibrations
wow I didn't expect someone to get so mad about an opinion. Honestly it's more of an opinion base answer and down to interpretation. Notice I said 'I think' rather rather than 'is'. That's because I understand that something like this can't actually be proven either way.
MegaKrage out of interest. How would you explain something like a head ache because for me sense of pain is separate from touch. And your heads not aching because something poking into it
are u kidding me i think his explanation was perfect
Burnie really sounded like Michael in this podcast.
Burnie's definition makes no sense. Technically sight is just light touching your eye balls, smell is just air touching your nose, sound is just air touching your ear drums, and temperature is just air or liquid touching your skin. What's his point? Also, smell and taste are two collaborative senses.
Ding ding ding. Fight.
The sense of not feeling temperature there are people born with a condition that makes it that their body cant feel temperature so does that count as a sense then according to Burnies logic?
Hi past person, but i think that condition prevents a person from any sense of touch, including pain
Also I believe that Gus is wrong about you physically feeling hot and cold. From my limited school knowledge of hot and cold, its tranported through blood vessels. When blood flows to the hypathalamus in your brain it detects wether your blood is too hot or too cold. It will then take appropriate action such as sweating to increase heat loss or shiver to create energy is the muscel cells through glucose and respiration. The blood cells also either vasodialte or vasoconstrict based on the temperature of hot or cold. So feeling too hot and too cold is more of a anatomic thing and less of a physical.
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They have it in the store
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Wouldn't balance be a sense of hearing since its in the ear?
As always Gav is right.
I know how Gus feels same things happened to me a few months ago
I love when Gavin is right and Burnie is wrong
Ear infection ruins your sense of balance because of inner ear issues.
To be fair, now that we've been to the moon people have seen the world as round. Though one could argue that maybe we could have thought the world was an oval until we went to space.
So by Burnies logic, we can eliminate the sense of hearing, as to hear something, its just the vibrations in our eardrums (touch).
gravity is not a sense. its just there
So he thinks all the scientists are wrong because.. that's just how it is?
Kazumaster scientists are not even sure. every research done about senses give arbitrary meaning to the word sense. and some categorize senses if scientists think there are more then 5. other senses that are not the main 5 are basically sub-senses
For the senses I agree with both Gavin and Burnie..
ARTbyRMF well one of them is right...and its not gavin
+MegaKrage ...exept burnie's argument are not valid: you can lose your sense of temperature but still have your sense of touch, balance is and independant sense helped by your sight just like your taste is an independant sense helped by your smell, and almost everything they mentionned can be classified as differant sense as they are detected by your body with differant type of nerve.
if you can sense it its not a sens its like saying you can feel the air around me well you just fucking said i can feel witch is a sense itself so there is only five maybe more but we have not discovered them
no it is the fact that you cant explain a sense when you just used another sense to describe it
If you didn't have the sense of touch you couldn't feel pressure because pressure is just air pushing on you, air has mass and people get that confused a lot just because they can't see it.
and regardless of any of this senses are still an abstract concept like Burnie said, it is something we made up to represent sensation that we are able to feel, i could name millions upon millions of senses if i were to apply one sense to every single nerve ending in your body,
the five senses were put into use because they generalize everything we feel and experience.
we could call the sense of sight the sense of cones, the sense of RGB color perception and so on.
of course there are millions of senses if you apply every component of a sensation to a specified sense, but what Burnie is saying is that a sense is something we made up to generalize understand and teach senses, just because some dipshit scientist wants to make the "senses" a more comprehensive subject doesn't mean that it's necessary or that anything new has been proven. they are both right Burnie just failed to properly articulate his argument in a manner that allowed the horde of stupid people that are the comment section to understand his point.
Burnie is defiantly right about the senses thing...
Nope.
Yep.
Explain to me how he isn't.
***** fucking even that article knows that the other senses are basically sub-senses
Adam Miller Just throwing it out there, Sally was on and debunked burnie
Burnies right. Five MAIN senses... all others are based off of the 5 senses, so its not a main one..
somerandomcodplayer What about hearing? Its technically touch, due to the fact that the way we hear is vibrations in our ears.
Also heat transfers through space with no particles so how is heat a sense of touch? And gravity as well
Also pressure is a sense
TheUnKnownGamer heat however is radiation. Which increases the temperature of your body. So its seen as a sense of touch.
Everything can be interpreted as a sense of touch. I know there are more than 5 senses. But its easy for someone to say how things could relate. Even if they dont know a lot on the subject
Well we have senses like the pH of our blood (if it shifts even slightly higher or lower than 7.4 it will kill you). But yeah we don't need those to be active because any animal that had to actively regulate it's blood pH died and didn't spread that particular gene. So yeah we sense the pH of our blood but we dont need that feedback so we don't hear that
Man some comments here just makes me wanna shake my head and face palm at the same time.. stupidity at its finest.
Burnie's argument about the senses is so frustrating. He's basically saying: "I know that there's a ton of scientific studies that prove me wrong, but I'm going to continue to be wrong because I'm too stubborn." It's like disagreeing with evolution. It's ridiculous.
Hello again.
First point:
Burnie and Gus are right, it's all sub categories, if it wasn't there'd would be a billion senses. It's just ridiculous.
Second point: Evolution is just a theory, although I personally do see it as a fact, it's not, it's still just a theory, like the big bang.
Furthermore, it is not ridiculous to agree or disagree with anything on the topic, 5 senses, 50 senses, 100000 senses, it doesn't really matter, it is how you, as an individual interpret reality, fact, theory, etc.
Dick Butts
I can understand lumping the senses of hot, cold, pain, and pressure under touch, but what about your vestibular sense and proprioception?
Look, man.
I'm not a doctor, or a scientist, and I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure it'll come under the 5 senses and their million sub-categories.
No matter what, you can put pretty much anything into one (or more) of the 5 senses.
Finally! Someone who actually sees reason and agrees with me!
Jupiter In Gold wouldnt everything besides sight be a sense of touch then? How the particles interact with your nose. You feel them.
Touch, its touch. Hearing, you feel vibrations in your ears. Taste. Same as smell
I really didn't think burnies stupidity trip was a highlight...
Stupidity trip? Lol. It makes a hundred times more sense then Gavin. Gavin who I love the guy, but his main job is look like a dumbass for laughs...
John Palmer yep, but in this case, burnie is being really stupid (which is not his job) and insisting that he is right because he "doesnt agree" with scientific proof an nature... gavin doesnt do that. the second somebody proves him wrong, he doesnt just continue like an idiot.
***** I agree with Burnie. Being able to detect gravity and balance is linked to the utricle and the saccule which use sensory hair to detect balance by telling the brain how the body is oriented. So, it's actually touch. Whoever said there are more senses are just blurring the lines.
Burnie is wrong there are statoliths in out inner ear that detect or "sense" gravity and our position relative to the ground
Durian smells like rotten eggs and tastes like caramelised onions with a terrible consistency. IMO.
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Yeah burnie just thinks at a low level. You can sort of use an analogy to compare human sensors with machines, and human senses capture in analog. Technically everything is touch, light touching your eyes, sound vibrating your ears if you think about it in that stupid way. And if only the five senses exist, what about balance? Or temperature? Touch tells you the degree to how hot an object is?
You can incorrectly say that we interact with the world using these five senses, but even then they are not the only senses the humans have unlike what burnie is implying.