Why are more roundabouts being put in across California's roadways?

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  • @Lindleyferchel
    @Lindleyferchel ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Driving in Europe I love them. No stop and go. Saves time and gas.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting ปีที่แล้ว +2

      depends a lot on the amount of traffic which goes through there, and the road itself. Driving 3 roundabouts after another costs more gas than just driving down a straight road and a constant speed

    • @lsq7833
      @lsq7833 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cool. Too bad roundabouts replace traffic lights. Guess what happens to your "constant speed" with those.

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not always, pretty much every country except for the netherlands likes to just throw in a roundabout wherever they can. The netherlands has thought this through and they only use roundabouts at specific locations, else they’ll use traffic calming measures such as narrowing the road, single lane for cars, raised intersections, raised crosswalks, raised crossings, priority squares, etc. You don’t need a roundabout at every intersection and if your country is doing that then they’re doing it very wrong.

    • @matthewnorman9803
      @matthewnorman9803 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@EnjoyFirefightingthat’s not a good reason, traffic lights make you stop which makes you use more fuel.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewnorman9803 it is. There weren't any traffic lights before that. It was a road where you could keep a steady speed

  • @williamfield8967
    @williamfield8967 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Carmel Indiana has about 200 roundabouts with more coming.

  • @Irishfan
    @Irishfan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I lived in Carmel, Indiana, and the city is in an ongoing program to install roundabouts on all of its major intersections. They currently have completed construction on over 150 of them. They slow down traffic through the intersection, making them safer than the other intersections they save time and gasoline because they don't cause a bunch of cars to be sitting idle, waiting for the light to change colors. I loved driving in Carmel with all the roundabouts. My trips across town were cut in half. My route from my house to the church I attend took me on two busy roads with about 8 traffic signals. It took me about a half hour to drive it. As Carmel put more and more of those roundabouts in, I started driving an alternative route to church. It was not as direct a route and may be longer in mileage, but it cut my travel time in half. I am a very big supporter of using roundabouts at all intersections. Even at interchanges where diverging diamonds are replacing diamond interchanges, Carmel uses bowtie roundabouts or two roundabouts, eliminating the traffic signals still required by the diverging diamond interchange. It still seems to be a better way to move the traffic through the interchange.

  • @Rebel-Forces-Earth-007
    @Rebel-Forces-Earth-007 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I strongly disliked the idea of roundabouts, until I got t-boned at a regular traffic-light controlled intersection. I will admit now that they do reduce traffic fatalities, and if the intersection I got t-boned at had had a roundabout, I would not have wound up in the hospital after the other driver ran the redlight.

    • @joedirt6073
      @joedirt6073 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me, me, me

    • @cowmann3555
      @cowmann3555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@joedirt6073?????

    • @joedirt6073
      @joedirt6073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cowmann3555
      Who was the most important entity in his speech?

    • @douglasengle2704
      @douglasengle2704 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People get in crashes for various reasons. When we had a major road's traffic light controlled intersection replaced with a modern multi-lane roundabout it had its falsity in living memory. Multi-lane roundabouts have demonstrated time and agin they are dangerous. I watch for people running intersections to avoid a T-bone crash. Now that a local town has replaced three heavily used stop sign controlled all way stop intersection with single lane roundabouts, I was following a car when from the side street a car ran the stop sign exactly how people enter a roundtable. I saw the car approaching the main road and was watching and backed off. The car in front of me did not, braking, but still T-boning the front of the entering car at about 20 mph. Both cars are likely totaled.

    • @8mydaydream409
      @8mydaydream409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@douglasengle2704Multi lane roundabouts are not dangerous! All you have to do is stay in your lane, the same way you would if no roundabout was there!

  • @michaelmclachlan1650
    @michaelmclachlan1650 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    00:45 "invented about 1970 or so" - no, they've been around much longer than that although their design wasn't standardised in the UK until 1966. Even in Australia I recall one at Toongabbie in western Sydney that existed by 1970.

    • @_starfiend
      @_starfiend 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The UK's first roundabout was 1909 or thereabouts, but there were older ones elswehere in both the US and Europe.

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If you can't use a roundabout you shouldn't drive a car period.

  • @elchad0
    @elchad0 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Traffic calming circles in neighborhood streets are not Modern Roundabouts

  • @wesleyrodgers886
    @wesleyrodgers886 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Because traffic circles (roundabouts) are safer.

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Traffic circles are not the same as roundabouts.

    • @piggy8761
      @piggy8761 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Theyre similar but not the same

  • @MrUrlanjedozvoljeno
    @MrUrlanjedozvoljeno 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Seeing US citizens discovering roundabouts today and loving them more and more is like seeing postcommunist East Europeans discovering democracy and the new freedom :D

  • @AbsFabbs
    @AbsFabbs ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I live in small town Tracy and we are full of roundabouts. For the size of the town vs the amount of people it seems to make a difference.

  • @winstonmiu
    @winstonmiu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’d prefer these over traffic lights. Turning across traffic is downright scary in major intersections, let alone sitting for long periods of time on red lights.

    • @288theabe
      @288theabe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Then you shouldn't be allowed to drive. Roundabouts are idiot-proof

  • @danlowe8684
    @danlowe8684 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The first intersection she compared with the collision data is not a roundabout. It is simply a 'traffic calming' device installed in the center of an existing intersection. In the same category as speed bumps and channeling devices.

    • @_starfiend
      @_starfiend 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's exactly what roundabouts are.

    • @danlowe8684
      @danlowe8684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@_starfiend No. Roundabouts are designed as such (as in the video's thumbnail). In this case, the municipality simply put a round planter area in the middle of an intersection in an effort to calm traffic. It is still a two-way stop intersection - roundabouts do not have stop signs. The problem with roundabouts is the amount of right of way necessary. The solution they used likely helped with collisions by interrupting the flow of vehicles.

  • @Bobbysworld22
    @Bobbysworld22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don’t mind roundabouts especially the ones in my neighborhood that have recently been installed due to high speed drivers. It slows the driver down and also makes the driver visibly aware of their surroundings. Think about kids playing in a residential area and you have regular cross intersections people tend to fly right through them. Roundabouts they’re forced to slow down.

  • @twinkieerella
    @twinkieerella ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Roundabouts should be preached throughout USA and Canada
    lots of stubborn drivers who are idiots at the same time

  • @TheZipeedoo
    @TheZipeedoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Roundabouts are a bit more expensive to install, but less expensive to operate than an intersection with an illuminated semaphore control.

    • @piggy8761
      @piggy8761 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Theyre literally “expensive” to install because of existing infrastructure.
      If it were new infrastructure, it would be easy.

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    been in europe for decades and little stopping except idiots here cant figure out the 2 lane roundabouts where no stopping

    • @farmertoby2971
      @farmertoby2971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beat me to it. So many morons can't seem to get the concept. I go through 1 of the ones shown in this video often.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "except idiots here cant figure out the 2 lane roundabouts" well believe it or not, there are countries where you don't have 2 lane roundabouts; People are simply not used to it when they come across one, no need to call them idiots for that

    • @xouxoful
      @xouxoful 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Multi lanes roundabouts are tricky to navigate correctly. Their design isn’t even consistent across countries. In France you must merge to the outer lane before exiting (but weirdly, there are 2 lane exits…) while elsewhere you may exit from the inner lane directly to the left exit lane.

  • @cristolaze5309
    @cristolaze5309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:37 the roundabout was initially the traffic circle which was invented in the USA and came about before the traffic light

  • @stevekluth9060
    @stevekluth9060 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roundabouts are great for driving. Less great for cyclists and pedestrians unless the intersection is also designed with them in mind which Caltrans doesn't do. Because Caltrans only cares about motor vehicle drivers and other Californians don't matter.

  • @AlaskaErik
    @AlaskaErik ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Leave it to California to make a roundabout 14 times more expensive than a traffic light intersection.

    • @merhaba8
      @merhaba8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We just replaced a set of lights in our town in New Zealand and it cost about $200k including raising pedestrian crossings and I thought that was expensive!!!

    • @GoldenTV3
      @GoldenTV3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Roundabouts should only cost ~250k

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's graft. San Francisco spends $850 million a year on 7700 homeless people. Do the math, that's $109k per homeless person per year. YOU COULD RENT THEM ALL APARTMENTS FOR 1/4 OF THAT AND THEY WOULDN'T BE HOMELESS ANYMORE, WOULD THEY?
      You can be sure a lot of the estates in the hills around San Francisco are owned by people who are "working on the homelessness problem."

    • @chsmithins
      @chsmithins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aluisiousSounds like the peeps of San Francisco need you to be much more involved to help solve this issue.

    • @christianc9894
      @christianc9894 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How many $ for a life ?

  • @CheetahNL
    @CheetahNL ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:10 Talks about safety. Grabs inside of the steering wheel (which makes it very hard to immediately steer back if needed).

    • @GoldenTV3
      @GoldenTV3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roundabouts have been proven to be safer, that's not hypothetical. That's fact.

    • @thastayapongsak4422
      @thastayapongsak4422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can theorize as much as you want but statistics speaks differently.

    • @CheetahNL
      @CheetahNL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GoldenTV3 Yes? I didn't say roundabouts aren't safe. I just want to mention that someone grabbing the inside of the steering wheel shouldn't be talking about road safety.

    • @mxdanger
      @mxdanger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thastayapongsak4422 Statistics of grabbing the inside of the steering wheel is proven to be more dangerous.

  • @timhaigh2484
    @timhaigh2484 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While I appreciate the macro stats, and have no large scale data with which to counter, from my experience with a small neighborhood round-about installed near to where I live, some drivers do barrel through (over the small curb of the circle) and in rare cases other drivers cut the corner and GO LEFT (Clockwise) against the flow! To be fair, and to my amazement, no driver has hit the boulders in the center of the round-about and no car collisions have occurred. On the other hand, there have been many altercations including horn honks and "flippin' the birds" that disturb the otherwise peaceful surrounds. Clearly it is the drivers causing the problems, but these smaller round-abouts seem to bring out the worst in some drivers.

  • @lucask4330
    @lucask4330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This roundabout you compared it to is often called a neighborhood traffic circle, and in this case (as seen in the video) it also has stop signs.

  • @eliaswilson7911
    @eliaswilson7911 หลายเดือนก่อน

    roundabouts have existed in the US since the early 20th century, but they used to much bigger and they did not have lanes. What they are referring to is the modern roundabout which has lanes, slower traffic, and is much safer.

  • @dominicphillip5816
    @dominicphillip5816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe it was the French who first invented road roundabouts. The UK strongly embraced them as did most of Europe. Having a more gridded road system is probably why the US didn’t first accept them.

  • @619sdbdub
    @619sdbdub 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This isn't a new concept in California. A very large one was created in 1932 in Long Beach. Known as the Los Alamitos Traffic Circle th-cam.com/video/d2KCIYPPr0Y/w-d-xo.html

  • @arekzawistowski2609
    @arekzawistowski2609 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3;20 i can bet it was orginally Szajkowski as "Szaj" is prenounced exacly like "shy"

  • @8mydaydream409
    @8mydaydream409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love average sized modern roundabouts. Mini roundabouts and large traffic circles can be eliminated. I don't consider that a roundabout on G & 25th.

  • @Rikard_A
    @Rikard_A 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't need to waste fuel either.

  • @Servergmr
    @Servergmr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Traffic calming circles though could be put in most intersections(well, certainly smaller scale ones).

  • @j2w1_lub
    @j2w1_lub 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The G and 25th intersection is not a roundabout. It is a two way stop with a circular island in the middle. Roundabouts don't have stop signs, and Roundabouts require ALL directions to YIELD. Also, rotaries are not Roundabouts either.

  • @abram6282
    @abram6282 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    at 2:50 at such grid area it seems stupid to put a roundabout, you'd be better off just making the road thinner and make an unmarked priority zone, or make some roads priority roads and rest yield not stop signs but why should this amaze me that the US always has to go in some extreme never settle for what's reasonable, let's now have only and only roundabouts I guess lol

  • @Allaiya.
    @Allaiya. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:50 that isn’t really a proper “roundabout” lol
    Center circle is too small and it still asks people to stop rather than yield.
    3:31 there is your roundabout

  • @Sean-C
    @Sean-C 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    forget roundabouts, the next best thing for freeway interchanges: diverging diamond interchange

  • @danmcclaren5436
    @danmcclaren5436 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is extremely sesual! good job!

  • @inigoromon1937
    @inigoromon1937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much does a severe car crash with injured or dead cost? And all those minutes waiting for green? And streetlight maintenance?
    Do your numbers.

  • @288theabe
    @288theabe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    $7 million is so worth the investment.

  • @BalooUriza
    @BalooUriza 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What? no, roundabouts were not invented around 1970. Closer to 1670.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roundabouts are fine. The turbo roundabout in Hollister requires instructions to use they post above the road 5 seconds before you get to it for the first time. That's stupid.

  • @arthurtomczak8474
    @arthurtomczak8474 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheap .

  • @pcatful
    @pcatful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do they bother to put the interior lane in on some of them (two lane roads). Who uses it?

    • @JakeRoot
      @JakeRoot ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The interior lanes are for turning left or going straight. The outside lanes are for turning right or going straight. Like at a regular intersection.

  • @2-old-Forthischet
    @2-old-Forthischet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try negotiating one towing a travel trailer. It isn't fun.

  • @Kvn-yh9zz
    @Kvn-yh9zz ปีที่แล้ว

    Угу

  • @Tomciu1985
    @Tomciu1985 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought roundabouts were created in the US and just adopted in England?

  • @W7DSY
    @W7DSY ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roundabouts are overused. I live in a neighborhood where there is little traffic and in several intersections they are a nuisance. A stop sign on the intersecting side street would have been much better. But then if Europeans have it, so then must we have it.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the US has lots of 4-way-stops; You don't find them in Europe at all. There are no 4-way stops ...

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EnjoyFirefightingwhat? Bro do you even live in europe?? 😂 there are a lot of 4 way intersections here.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@miles5600 you're aware that I speak about 4 way stops, not 4 way intersections?

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miles5600 there are alots of 4 way intersections, but no 4 way stops around here ...

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EnjoyFirefighting yea that’s correct. The best intersection is a raised intersection.

  • @gregdebree9158
    @gregdebree9158 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The roundabout is a blight on our roadways . THEY ARE AN ABOMINATION!!! Confused drivers get honked at and near accidents are common. As for pedestrians??? FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE… AND RUN

    • @W7DSY
      @W7DSY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, but the idea came from Europe and we can't let them get ahead of us.

    • @twinkieerella
      @twinkieerella ปีที่แล้ว +14

      maybe u just ▇▇ at driving on roundabouts

    • @GoldenTV3
      @GoldenTV3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not our fault the drivers can't understand the simplest of concepts🤷

    • @notisac3149
      @notisac3149 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There will be idiots and confused drivers regardless of the intersection. I'd rather be in a minor accident in a roundabout than risk a major accident at a traffic light. Even in the US however, a proper and well-implemented roundabout is statically proven to have less severe crashes with a lower chance of accidents as well.

    • @galvinstanley3235
      @galvinstanley3235 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Learn to drive better,that might help.

  • @LoveLove-gw2td
    @LoveLove-gw2td ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Intersections over roundabouts.

    • @elchad0
      @elchad0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Roundabouts are intersections

  • @joedirt6073
    @joedirt6073 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Roundabouts are a great way to control access to 15 minute cities
    Think about what you can put in the middle to deter people from wanting to leave their prison

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So 15 minute cities are a prison to you? Just search it up on youtube again and rethink it cause it sire ain’t no prison.

    • @thastayapongsak4422
      @thastayapongsak4422 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Roundabouts actually make you go faster without stopping so you're just wrong.

    • @joedirt6073
      @joedirt6073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miles5600
      How close are you to clothes, food, toilet, bed, labor, medical treatment, etc in prison?

    • @joedirt6073
      @joedirt6073 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thastayapongsak4422
      What happens if the incoming streets are baracadded at the roundabout?

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joedirt6073 just because someone is close doesn’t mean it’s a prison lol. Different between a real prison and the world is that you have free will. People have the will to access the resources they need within walking distance and biking distance.

  • @dennisdovichi790
    @dennisdovichi790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roundabouts work in Europe because they yield to the left… in the US we yield to the right which is why they cause 50 - 75 % more traffic and in turn that reduces traffic fatalities

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What? Idk what europe you’re talking about but we all yield to the people who are already inside the roundabout. It’s a universal rule.

    • @Velerios
      @Velerios ปีที่แล้ว +5

      UK/Ireland is not alone Europe: on the main Land we all yield to the right. Roundabouts is not about yielding to the left, it's just about yielding. Only because you are forced to yield through a traffic sign people need to yield to the traffic on a roundabout. I know one roundabout where you don't need to yield and where traffic inside the roundabout need to yield. (it's just a city-road with 3 exits, one to a parking lot), so there's only a miniscule of people who need to actually use the roundabout as a crossing, but when you are driving in the other direction, you actually need to yield as the one in the roundabout. Even here there aren't any accidents because of it, but this is not about yielding to the left, if the others have no traffic sign that you need to yield on the roundabout (except the parking lot where you need to), then the traffic inside the roundabout need to yield. But 99% of roundabouts there's a yield-sign, so that's rarely an issue.

    • @GoldenTV3
      @GoldenTV3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BRO IS ONTO NOTHING🗣❗❗❗

    • @fgm5225
      @fgm5225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In a roundabout you yield to whoever is already inside, which in (continental) Europe means yielding to the left, but in Great Britain means yielding to the right. In both cases that is contrary to the general rule in unmarked intersections, where the British yield to the left and continentals to the right, like everyone else.

    • @piggy8761
      @piggy8761 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Youre clueless
      Left and right have zero impact 😂
      They drive on the left, so the driver is on the right side
      We drive on the right so the driver is on the left side.

  • @douglasengle2704
    @douglasengle2704 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The small slow single lane roundabout intersection shown at the beginning of this video is a sensible solution to replace all way stop controlled intersection. It's still bike able. There are no implicit pedestrian crossing at roundabouts as there are at stop sign controlled or traffic light controlled intersections. Pedestrian crossing have to be explicitly marked. It is highway design doctrine that a roundabout is detrimental to traffic flow of the primary road over a well implemented traffic light controlled intersection. Where a roundabout might process traffic better than a traffic light is when both roads are at about the same traffic volume and there is a lot of interchange traffic. That is atypical. It being implemented it should be done with a rotary which are safer and faster.
    Multi-lane roundabouts are dangerous with increased speed more typical of a rotary with that traffic condition actually calling for rotary. Once a roundabout is above a designed operating speed of 15 mph it is no longer behaving like a roundabout. Such so called roundabouts are likely not included in roundabout statistics. Most new so called roundabout in the US have designed operating speeds above 15 mph and are not roundabouts and don't have the large diameter road circles of a rotary that enable proper merging behavior.
    All way stop controlled intersection in neighborhoods are frequently mis used to do so called traffic calming which is where there are traffic lane disruption intentionally to slow traffic down. What takes place where traffic calming appears to have worked is not that traffic has been slowed down, but that traffic has been reduced by going somewhere else. For a neighborhood discouraging through traffic that has been a design objective as far back as the 1960s.
    In the USA non highway designers don't look at the fine details and are likely choosing fast multi-lane roundabouts psychologically for traffic calming. They slow traffic on the primary road that would in a neighborhood cause passing through traffic to choose a different route. On arterial roads multi-lane roundabouts used instead of a traffic light controlled intersection reduce traffic through put, make drivers hyper focus which means they may not notice pedestrians or cyclists, don't allow traffic metering such as synchronized traffic lights and make drivers fight to get through them along with disorientation that takes place after more than couple roundabouts near each other.
    Multi-lane roundabouts are not safer than traffic light controlled intersections. A major arterial road Mt. Comfort Road with 300 N. Mt Comfort Indiana had its traffic light controlled intersection replaced with a multi-lane roundabout where it shortly experienced its first fatal crash in living memory. www.google.com/maps/@39.8272393,-85.9148965,1636m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en&entry=ttu. That roundabout acts as a traffic calming device causing traffic to switch over to using 700 W. If it has been an improvement for through traffic which is the objective that would not have happened.
    Mt. Comfort road has a full lane shoulder typically for cycling. I feel very exposed and not noticed when riding my bicycle through that roundabout! People are hyper focusing on just a few points unable to be attentive to traffic. It looks unsafe, it feels unsafe, its slower for through traffic, it deters through traffic and its caused death over the traffic light that was there before. If implementing a traffic circle for such a situation it should be a rotary that is much larger in diameter.
    This is a main trucking area with a medium sized truck stop with the area being a huge warehouse area served by trucks. The roundabout provides a nice convenient turn around for Semi's.