Once again, Dude: Your work as of late is just absolutely beautiful. The content, the presentation, and - of course - the graphics. Following all of your content here and on RCP heavier than ever again now as I work my way up the stakes.
I have an honest question. Where I play on live 1/2 the players defend way to loose. Doesn't matter if it's a 3bet pot or not. So let's say I'm the HJ with AQs. It gets raised to 6bb in front of me. I bump it to 28bb (3x last bet plus additional money) and I still get 3 calls. I'm not thrilled about seeing this flop multi way unless I drill it. These types of game I abandon the 3 bet or fold strategy because I hate going multi way in a massive pot and missing completely, then facing a ton of aggression post flop. So would you still 3 bet or fold in these types of games or adopt a calling strategy and why?
there are some mistakes here: - 3x+additional money, which is a PSR, presumes a normal 2-2.5x RFI. cold 4 bets must be a little bit smaller, especially IP, otherwise you're giving too good of a price to shove. - if you hit your TP, you have like a 0.75 PSB behind, so you can shove on almost every board because no one should have AK or KK+
Raise larger pre with a tight range and you will smash the loose callers IN THE LONG RUN. There is no way you wont unless you play WAY worse than them. The more money (as a percentage of stacks) goes in pre, the more raw equity matters. Easy game. Just wait for hands. Boring, but easy.
@MelFinehout I used this specific example for a reason. Last week this is almost exactly what happened. I got 2 calls on my 3 bet. Flop was A93 h,c,s. I bet around pot and 1 guy called. Turn was 8h. Again I bet and guy calls. River is 5h. I'm 99% sure my opponent is playing TT+. But at this point there is way more in the pot than whats in my stack. So I just put it all out there. He snap calls. I show my AQ and he showed T4h. Guy literally called my 3 bet with Th4h and chased it all the way down and sucked out on me. And this has been the norm for me over the last 2 months. Another hand I had AA and I 3 bet and got called by 3. Flop was AJ4. I bet 2 call. Turn is 8. I bet 1 call. River is 3. I jam and 1 calls. He showed 52o. I have a ton more examples just like these 2.
LOL - you are in a fantastic game!! Stop crying! 3Bet a linear range and go bigger, it's easy! Here is a thought for you, if villains always overcall why do you ever need to bluff?
James, This is Jesse. I have been followed you for a while. Recently I played Tournaments and Cash Game in Casino. I got all kinds of bad beats. AA beat by AJ, AA beat by JJ, Top set KK beat by Set 99...What should I do? Play less, take a break of my time? It has been like this for a while. I don't know how long it will take me to get out this circle. I am patient, I am not tilt. Just wondering...Thanks!
If you're patient and not tilting, just keep grinding through it! Though be on the look out for an upcoming video on poker mindset tips that may be helpful =)
Chart at 3:41. Why does the 5bb 3-bet defending proportion drop to 51%. Looks like 4bb and 5bb figures are inverted. As bb raises increase the defending range increase should be linear. Don’t see a good reason for a drop at 5bb.
How are 3 bet frequencies derived from the table @ 2:42 ? thank you for your work ! *peace sign* curiously; why is that table not linear ? ie- 2.5bb 3bet is 14% and 3bb is 11% again ? thanks ! would love the logic/math there. cheers ! sort of makes sense at the next table; imma shut up and listen. thank you . :)P your background music is as stagnant as my preflop game.. lol, all jokes, you're amazing ! thank you for your work !
I believe from PokerSnowie/NN research. And I hate when music and vocals have massive energy mismatch, so unfortunately I need a little more subdued BG music =P
People do that loss leader thing with flop bets so hard to play against a player raising 1.5x pot and small 1 out of every three times sparatically every time they have a good hand you just got to play more value but you end up folding to often to there play making it so hard to play against them. It’s like a strange way of bluffing?
Personally in live games with the erratic nature of opponents and their failure to understand relative hand strength and positional awareness I personally do not advocate for light 4 betting almost ever. I think a superior approach is to go ahead and call their three bets even with your very strong hands, and then either check raise them into oblivion on boards when you actually hit a face card or lead into them on boards that favor your represented range such as low connected boards or even completely ragged boards.
Shit... I think you're best to shove instead of calling 3 bets, or light raising 4... I'm guessing most players here are in the 1-2NL 2-2-3NL, 2-5NL, and 5-10NL... Obviously it all depends on your opponents chip stacks... Its best to shove with AA, KK, QQ because in these games the alarm bells of AK goes off.
@@ThePokerBank Oh shit.... you're right. 😅🤭 Maybe I messed up the syntax a bit. What I meant to say was that there was a poker night at my place last saturday. And it was our first time playing poker together since before covid started.... 😊
@@ThePokerBank to soft in general. Volume comparison to others, if my general setting is at a three, to listen to your pod, I have to turn it up to a seven. I enjoy your content, but it's hard to listen to. I do recall others making similar comments as well in the past.
I play like 1c/2c, I started playing like a week ago and I invested a total of 3 dollars, I won mostly the first few days but then because of poor bankroll I ended up losing like 5 dollars in a day and now I have less than a dollar left. I'm thinking whether I should continue studying and playing or call it and say this ain't for me
Brooooo's this guy talks so damnnn much.. it's usefull but bro, dumb it down a little bit.. It's like we need to listen so damn fast... the whole video you just talked so fast make it shorter and powerful.. I Did note the big lesson though... keep sounding interesting at the table without saying anything.
Want more? Here are the 6 poker concepts I wish I learned so much sooner! www.splitsuit.com/learning-poker-6-things-to-learn-first
Once again, Dude: Your work as of late is just absolutely beautiful. The content, the presentation, and - of course - the graphics. Following all of your content here and on RCP heavier than ever again now as I work my way up the stakes.
Thank you Joseph! Good job putting in the effort!
I have an honest question. Where I play on live 1/2 the players defend way to loose. Doesn't matter if it's a 3bet pot or not. So let's say I'm the HJ with AQs. It gets raised to 6bb in front of me. I bump it to 28bb (3x last bet plus additional money) and I still get 3 calls. I'm not thrilled about seeing this flop multi way unless I drill it. These types of game I abandon the 3 bet or fold strategy because I hate going multi way in a massive pot and missing completely, then facing a ton of aggression post flop. So would you still 3 bet or fold in these types of games or adopt a calling strategy and why?
Sounds like a great try moving up out of 1-2
there are some mistakes here:
- 3x+additional money, which is a PSR, presumes a normal 2-2.5x RFI. cold 4 bets must be a little bit smaller, especially IP, otherwise you're giving too good of a price to shove.
- if you hit your TP, you have like a 0.75 PSB behind, so you can shove on almost every board because no one should have AK or KK+
Raise larger pre with a tight range and you will smash the loose callers IN THE LONG RUN. There is no way you wont unless you play WAY worse than them.
The more money (as a percentage of stacks) goes in pre, the more raw equity matters.
Easy game. Just wait for hands. Boring, but easy.
@MelFinehout I used this specific example for a reason. Last week this is almost exactly what happened. I got 2 calls on my 3 bet. Flop was A93 h,c,s. I bet around pot and 1 guy called. Turn was 8h. Again I bet and guy calls. River is 5h. I'm 99% sure my opponent is playing TT+. But at this point there is way more in the pot than whats in my stack. So I just put it all out there. He snap calls. I show my AQ and he showed T4h. Guy literally called my 3 bet with Th4h and chased it all the way down and sucked out on me. And this has been the norm for me over the last 2 months. Another hand I had AA and I 3 bet and got called by 3. Flop was AJ4. I bet 2 call. Turn is 8. I bet 1 call. River is 3. I jam and 1 calls. He showed 52o.
I have a ton more examples just like these 2.
LOL - you are in a fantastic game!! Stop crying!
3Bet a linear range and go bigger, it's easy!
Here is a thought for you, if villains always overcall why do you ever need to bluff?
Any plans to update redchip poker any time soon?
Update anything in particular?
Thanks again James. Post flop tidbits for experienced players would definitely be a great idea.
GREAT VIDEO......both in the box and a bit out of the box(which is very welcome).
Thank you Paul!
you’ve got the cleanest voice bro so easy listen too 👊
Thank you Adam!
I’d like to see a post flop video. Thanks Splitsuit.
Cheers!
That is a +EV beard, James!
John gets it!
Luv you brother James, ty!!!
Thank you for such great knowledge, Can you please make a video about setting up HUD for cash games !! Cheers
Cheers! Do you have any specific questions about that?
Just found your channel, love it! Think I will try out this poker work book too
James, This is Jesse. I have been followed you for a while. Recently I played Tournaments and Cash Game in Casino. I got all kinds of bad beats. AA beat by AJ, AA beat by JJ, Top set KK beat by Set 99...What should I do? Play less, take a break of my time? It has been like this for a while. I don't know how long it will take me to get out this circle. I am patient, I am not tilt. Just wondering...Thanks!
If you're patient and not tilting, just keep grinding through it! Though be on the look out for an upcoming video on poker mindset tips that may be helpful =)
@@ThePokerBank Thank you so much. I am looking forward to your new video.
Cool stuff
Chart at 3:41. Why does the 5bb 3-bet defending proportion drop to 51%. Looks like 4bb and 5bb figures are inverted. As bb raises increase the defending range increase should be linear. Don’t see a good reason for a drop at 5bb.
Best content, thanks for the effort and time making these videos :)
Cheers Elmar!
Thanks a lot for this! Your videos have been very helpful
You're very welcome Yash!
Yes, this was good. Let's do a similar post-flop video.
How are 3 bet frequencies derived from the table @ 2:42 ? thank you for your work ! *peace sign*
curiously; why is that table not linear ? ie- 2.5bb 3bet is 14% and 3bb is 11% again ? thanks ! would love the logic/math there. cheers !
sort of makes sense at the next table; imma shut up and listen. thank you . :)P
your background music is as stagnant as my preflop game.. lol, all jokes, you're amazing ! thank you for your work !
I believe from PokerSnowie/NN research. And I hate when music and vocals have massive energy mismatch, so unfortunately I need a little more subdued BG music =P
I apply tip N°8 a lot and it is a great strategy, your hand is hidden and makes villain overplay weaker holdings.
Yes indeed!
We must be playing together, because people who flat KK and QQ kill me every time. You never see it coming!
People do that loss leader thing with flop bets so hard to play against a player raising 1.5x pot and small 1 out of every three times sparatically every time they have a good hand you just got to play more value but you end up folding to often to there play making it so hard to play against them. It’s like a strange way of bluffing?
Personally in live games with the erratic nature of opponents and their failure to understand relative hand strength and positional awareness I personally do not advocate for light 4 betting almost ever. I think a superior approach is to go ahead and call their three bets even with your very strong hands, and then either check raise them into oblivion on boards when you actually hit a face card or lead into them on boards that favor your represented range such as low connected boards or even completely ragged boards.
Shit... I think you're best to shove instead of calling 3 bets, or light raising 4... I'm guessing most players here are in the 1-2NL 2-2-3NL, 2-5NL, and 5-10NL... Obviously it all depends on your opponents chip stacks... Its best to shove with AA, KK, QQ because in these games the alarm bells of AK goes off.
Why is the reason do you defend blinds is it just odds? Or is there another reason I don’t know about
Largely odds and closing action
When are you playing at Cherokee next? I'll be there Thursday and Friday this week and would be awesome to play with you!
I actually moved from NC earlier this year, so no Cherokee plans atm =( Have a great trip though!
@@ThePokerBank Thanks man, cheers!
I just found u at 1am louisiana pre flop should be ur strongest game
Thanks. J4 is the Robbi hand - you should definitely 3x PF with that. Sorry for wanting to tug your beard.
How do you feel about free range .....chicken?
Delicious
If you defend a min raise from big blind from button steal, you are lighting money on fire to the rake
Not all hero’s wear capes. Some have cool beards and teach poker strategy on TH-cam lol
I've hosted our first poker night since covid started last Saturday with my brother and a friend.
Congrats! (BTW, English is so odd since your comment could totally be read a different way, lol)
@@ThePokerBank Oh shit.... you're right. 😅🤭
Maybe I messed up the syntax a bit.
What I meant to say was that there was a poker night at my place last saturday. And it was our first time playing poker together since before covid started.... 😊
@@chanceneck8072 I hope it was a great time (and first poker night of many!)
@@ThePokerBank Yep.
You still need to adjust your mic volume. It's waaay too soft.
Too soft compared to the BG music, or just too low in general?
@@ThePokerBank to soft in general. Volume comparison to others, if my general setting is at a three, to listen to your pod, I have to turn it up to a seven. I enjoy your content, but it's hard to listen to. I do recall others making similar comments as well in the past.
I play like 1c/2c, I started playing like a week ago and I invested a total of 3 dollars, I won mostly the first few days but then because of poor bankroll I ended up losing like 5 dollars in a day and now I have less than a dollar left. I'm thinking whether I should continue studying and playing or call it and say this ain't for me
🥇 First!
Nice!
You talk to quiet man. I can’t always hear you with my headphones maxed
Brooooo's this guy talks so damnnn much.. it's usefull but bro, dumb it down a little bit.. It's like we need to listen so damn fast... the whole video you just talked so fast make it shorter and powerful.. I Did note the big lesson though... keep sounding interesting at the table without saying anything.
again, the music is a big distraction, the volume of the music is louder than his voice and he has a soft voice, totally unwatchable.
I watched it with no issue. Very watchable.
Are you wearing headphones or a speaker? We work hard to level the BG music & vocals properly...
Dude its perfect
Handsome man
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