Destiny 2: Solar 3.0 In-Depth Guide 🔥 (Best Aspects, Fragments, Builds & More!)
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- Solar 3.0 is the new Subclass system revealed in Destiny 2: Season of the Haunted. Today I give you my in-depth guide, including examples of ALL the new abilities, aspects, fragments - sample builds for each class, & more!
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00:00 - Intro
00:45 - New Solar 'Verbs'
02:53 - Solar Fragments
06:22 - All Grenades
10:19 - Warlock Solar 3.0 Breakdown
20:54 - Hunter Solar 3.0 Breakdown
30:42 - Titan Solar 3.0 Breakdown
36:35 - Sample Warlock Build
39:32 - Sample Hunter Build
43:40 - Sample Titan Build
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00:45 - New Solar 'Verbs'
02:53 - Solar Fragments
06:22 - All Grenades
10:19 - Warlock Solar 3.0 Breakdown
20:54 - Hunter Solar 3.0 Breakdown
30:42 - Titan Solar 3.0 Breakdown
36:35 - Sample Warlock Build
39:32 - Sample Hunter Build
43:40 - Sample Titan Build
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I have to thank you for also not SCREAMING in your titles.
Just to let you know, damage for radiant in pve is 25%
i think you should go over just how extremely strong they just made resilience. with the right set up you can essentially get 100% dmg reduction. I think at 10 resil ur like 40%? (pve atleast)
@@sea4524 damn, I came here to say the same thing
Just FYI radiant is different in PvE. It's a 25% buff which is actually very strong. A lot of ways to proc it.
Hunters can dodge during a dps phase to give the entire team radiant, wow
@@LoganVPrimus even better and u dont have to wait a whole minute for it? Just toss a melee at the boss with the fragment that gives u and friends radiance on powered melee damage. Its free real estate and lets u use the better dodges like the melee dodge incase u fuck uo ur chaining of it
Can you stack radiant with high energy fire + font of might? I’m gonna assume one of those cancels each other out
@@FlashSonic542 I'll have to test at some point. It's so hard keeping track of what stacks lol. It's an ability bonus so I'm guessing it's like well so it probably won't stack with high energy fire but it'll probably stack with font of might.
@@yosh3058 I know empowering rift does stack with radiant for some reason.
Honestly preferred being able to charge your grenade into a healing nade. That way you have an offensive and support option. Still nice to have a straight up heal nade I suppose
True, but i guess folks can spec more into a healer build should they want to
Sadly it killed all the synergies that sunbracers and starfire had with healing options, overall the playstyle is both less versatile on warlock and weaker.
@@Mariosunbornchild Yeah the only problem is a full healer build isn't really that useful in most scenarios. For GMs and other high-end PVE content losing that offensive grenade is pretty rough. It's the reason why we don't see more people running Luminas or Boots of the Assembler. Destiny in general is a game where the MMO trinity doesn't exist, everyone is really a DPS with some classes offering that utility (old healing nades, rift, barricades). This healer focused play-style is weaker in playlist activities like strikes, and significantly weaker in GMs, or Master raids. I think they should've made healing grenades a aspect than an entirely new grenade.
This is outright worse fyi i was running a healing build for myself in pvp this is so much worse
Yeah now it really limits warlocks, honestly seems so weird since Void 3.0 had a lot of flexibility, but this one is hard set into what you want, you can go big hard damage, hard support, or hard airborne accuracy. They evidently wanted to see Warlocks dominate the airborne effectiveness changes
I'd say the Phoenix dive replacing your rift isn't a bad idea. The problem is it has the cooldown of a rift, and it probably should have the same cooldown as a hunter dodge
Agreed. Lower the cooldown and then we’ll see.
Agreed
I personally dont agree, Phoenix dive needs to be in the air so cant be spammed like a dodge
I don't think a dodge is a good cool down bc it does heal allies now. I think like a 45 second timer would be somewhat balanced
Yeah I like the ability for the instant health, but normal rift CD is wayyy too long. Maybe not hunter dodge CD but maybe 20s or so would be fine
New warlock melee ability has REALLY high damage output compared to celestial. Interested to see how they balance that one.
It's close range. Doesn't seem to be usable in high level content when it has a wide spread and goes only 10m
I have to say, I had a blast yesterday night with snap melee and Cerberus. Literally 0 effort, run to shottie range and absolutely blast everyone
Maybe a titan could put a barricade behind a champ for 2 warlocks to annihilate champs lol
From what i've experienced, it pretty much tickles red bar enemies.
@@Razer5542 it will kill with the scorch.
It does a lot of scorch.
Interesting data:
As a hunter with celestial, golden gun was hitting 200,000ish on bosses in the new activity. With radiant from the dodge it was hitting 250,000ish. I had a friend tractor cannon and hit 325,000ish
So
Celestial: 200,000
Celestial+radiant: 250,000
Celestial+radiant+tractor: 325,000
oh the dps, that's gonna be nasty (not as much total damage as most supers, but the speed)
@@Laachen oh lord I’m aboutta burst 😩
Banner shield is a +40%
Oh damn, cool, Hunters got the damage buff that was removed from sunspots.
@@FcoEnriquePerez Kind of but Hunters can give radiant to nearby allies
As a Warlock main, I’m underwhelmed. Daybreak lost its super energy gain upon kills, so it’s not a good add-clear anymore and even with Dawn Chorus, it’s rather lacking and it's too short now as using the super and dashing drains energy. The dive replaces the rift entirely, so our survivability suffers too. I also liked being able to have the choice of throwing a regular grenade or charging it for a heal and the healing grenade no longer grants an overshield, further hurting survivability.
Perhaps with time, we’ll discover new combos and/or Bungie will make some changes, but for now, they killed my favorite playstyle that came out in Season of the Lost.
Yeah it feels like Warlock just lost options where as everyone else gained them.
@@KaoZorri Titans lost their weapon/damage buff from sun warrior
This exactly. Warlocks literally didn't get a single actual new ability that every other class alsogot. no phoenix dive is not ne it's just in a new slot and actually hella nerfed too.
@@elixir478 i mean we got roy mustang finger snap so i guess that's fine
Same with Titan, bottom 2.0 was so much better.
Sunsposts got murdered hard.
Middle roaring flames was also better.
I wish there was an option to see allies health bars like enemies in crucible to actually see your healing in action.
I hope lumina gets a catalyst buff with a perk that shows health bars
@@dextermckinney2500 thats useless lol
@@manmeh4r not really knowing small stuff like when your teammates are about to die let’s you know when you should push or not saving you from going in alone because you thought your teammate wasn’t weak I get comms are a thing but not everyone has them and destinys chat sucks ass you can also know when to actually help your teammates with rifts or barricades to say it’s useless is just dumb lmao
@@manmeh4r and seeing how lumina is meant to be a support hand cannon it fits perfectly with the build just sounds like ape logic if you think it’s useless
Allies taking damage or whom lost their shields have an exclamation mark in the green box above their head.
Throwing Hammer with "Melees Make Radiant" is in and of itself a wombo combo since picking up the hammer gives you back the melee energy.
It's free damage buff.
Still prefer sunspot usage
@@joelrobinson5457 which you also have at the same time
@JonUK4 I thought you don’t get the damage buff anymore?
@@JonUK4 The only usage they have is for heals, we no longer have ability regen and no damage buff.
@@dextermckinney2500 Sunspot's damage buff went to Radiant, which is very easy to proc for Titans. Basically you still have the sun warrior damage buff, just activates differently now and not just by standing in the sunspot. We didn't lose it like many assumed.
Imagine my shock when I found out that Radiant and Monte Carlo’s Markov Chain stack, and thanks to how they work you can maintain an absurd uptime.
What class do you think works best with radiant and monte?
@@burningblaise Any of them would do fine but I think Warlock will benefit the most since it has access to The Snap and since you get Radiant on hit not in kill you can use it to spread scorched. Celestial Fire can work too since it's much more instant compared to The Snap.
@@gamesux1590 Titan throwing hammer
@@SpliffyHusk What's the point of Monte Carlo then?
@@gamesux1590 because you can just throw the hammer to get the 25% boost, and you can use Monte Carlo to get another one. In some situations going for your hammer can be dangerous so it’s better to just chuck it and forget
God what a legend getting this out on day one very grateful to you sir
Overall, I really like Solar 3.0, but it broke so many cool things on warlock.
Lmk if I'm wrong, but didn't they remove the ability for Daybreak to get energy from kills entirely? That completely butchers the super outside of boss damage w/ the Dawn Chorus if so.
Also kinda sad healing grenade isn't a charge, liked messing around with it and double fusions. On that note, Starfire Protocol's bonus grenade energy effect doesn't proc when you're radiant, and I feel like it really should...
Looking forward to seeing what cool new combos there are tho!
Chorus Dawn doesn’t do DPS anymore as far as I know, changed/Nerfed it so that it only gives you ability energy when burning enemy’s
So R.I.P. Warlock solar dps
@@lordquab9232 I haven't tested it yet, but I wouldn't be so sure. If the amount of ignite stacks it gives your super is substantial, the ignitions *might* keeps the massive damage it had previously.
@@ShadowZealot7 only like 1 ignite every 3 hits. Overall, the dmg loss for 1 person using it is around 15%, which is significant. However, the dmg loss of a fireteam of 6 using it is ridiculous. 1 person had to stack the burns over the duration of their super, but a team could get to max stacks in 1 or 2 projectiles, which increased DPS massively. Haven't tested this one, but if I had to make an informed estimate, it's around a 2/3 dmg loss. Sad
i feel its worth noting you can counter the new titan melee stuff by simply jumping, even a regular base jump will do if you time it right.
Figures. Everyone’s jumping up and down cuz it’s so cool but it’s really impractical and not very good. Takes to long and easy to dodge. And yet people will still complain and it’ll get a damage nerf
not a single dev thought to just jump to dodge the melee during playtesting 💀
@@Butter_Nutty I mean, they probably did and that's why it one shots
Go to Ikora to get the blacked out Fragments Guardians! It does say it on one of the Solar 3.0 pop up windows in game but at the bottom, so you might've missed it!
i cant purchase some of them, im assuming they unlock later in the season
My guess is till the completion of the dungeon, like vow for void
@@Sawdust_ each of them are 10,000 glimmer
@@KelgorothTheFinalShape yeah, i already bought the ones at ikora, i was talking about the two that arent even a option in ikora's shop yet(empyrean and char)
For the Scorch Snap on Warlock, if you jump in the air and aim it downwards it works better on guardians. When they hit the ground they'll still explode and deal damage then.
That's why it also did more damage when tested against two guardians, they were hit by the explosions that tagged their teammate.
I have a "combat medic" build on my hunter that has been pretty fun.
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Perfect! Thank you for the Solar 3.0 info and builds. Exactly what I needed today
The builds are a nice touch
Messed around on my Warlock for like 2 hours and honestly, not really liking it. Beside spamming the shit out of solar grenades, it has literally zero survivability. The dive on warlocks is a complete joke. Void had grenade spam AND tankiness with devour.
Hunters:🧨🤠
Titans:🔥🌋
Warlocks: Where Solar buddy
lmao lava crayon titans
@@axo4118 Indeed
I feel like warlocks got hit pretty bad. Bottom tree daybreak feels gutted with the super being terrible now. Very little ways to build on burn and Phoenix dive now has a unnecessarily long cooldown. Middle tree lost benevolent dawn, and healing grenades are now separate from damage grenades. And of course we’ll got a nerf to provide slightly less survivalbility.
Then we got 2/3 of the aspects just being top tree dawn. Icarus and heat rises needs to be combined, and something such as benevolent dawn needs to return.
Only positive thing for warlock is that I’ve made a really fun Sunbracers build, but all my other build ideas have fallen flat
Benevolent dawn became the fragment Ember of Benevolent, which proc on giving teammate either cure, regenerate or radiant
but yeah, gonna miss the time I can throw out one healing nade and then two solar nade with sunbracers
None of this is true though, in terms of warlocks being gutted or bad, especially not in practice.
i think hunters are the only ones who actually had a good rework of the class. I’m a titan main and honestly solar 3.0 was a little disappointing, like yeah the new melee slam is cool but it can easily be evaded and i find myself getting killed during the animation, also sunspots got completely nerfed not being able to quickly regain our abilities like before and by the time i even get to the sun spot, its already gone
@@user-gg3xt2rh1u it’s nowhere near as good. It doesn’t continuously proc off things like having someone else in your barrier, boots of assembler, etc. The one positive is you can proc it on yourself by walking in and out of a healing rift for some reason, but that seems like a bug.
@@christianfender4734 sunbreaker also took a hit with roaring flame and sunspot nerfed, procing regen in sunspot is also awkward
So I found that warlock has a sort of shatter dive. Kind of a shittier version though it seems.
If you use heat rises, jump up and snap melee your target then do a phoenix dive, it kills everyone in the area. I'm also using the fragment to stack scorches better. Oh and I'm using the bigger ignition one as well
Another one is if you use verity brow and the double exploding fusion, it easily one shots people at any resilience with just 1 stack of death throes
Yeah, but it's a shatter dive that you have to use literally ALL of your class abilities to set up. New Dawnblade is ass, I really hope they revamp it like soon
@@urplatz exactly. It's not really worth it, competitively speaking, but it can be a fun thing do fish for here and there. Even the one shot fusion grenades are kind of meh because it can be hard to stick.
You can get one shot magnetic grenades on warlock with the same setup, just having the "grenades cause weakness" fragment and 1 stack of death throes. it's way easier to stick someone with that, than it is a fusion grenade.
Suprised I don't see more people talking about athrys embrace with solar 3.0 hunter. Infinite knives without needing to headshot sounds really nice
If you pair it with sky burners or Prometheus lens you get an even better uptime. I feel like a pulse rifle and Prometheus combo can be really fun in pvp
Usually day 1 videos are slapped together, but this was fantastic as well as timely. Thanks! As for future content, would love to see more build synergies, and how they interact with different exotic armor pieces.
Thanks for taking the time to make this for those of us than can’t play the new content yet
A cool trick, the knife trick spread works but growing left to right in order, so if you time it correctly, looking to your left while throwing can make them all go in a straight line
This should be a 1 shot kill in PvP if they all hit crits right?
Thanks for the video! Can’t help but think it must be stressful to feel like you have to put these vids out so quickly. Remember to take time for yourself sometimes :) Can’t wait to start making more builds.
I was talking to Jon Weisnewski about the early days of D2 awhile back and he mentioned that there had been some talks early on with the arcstrider where since the arcstrider is this sort of ninja type, having the them toss out a small fan of arc-throwing stars when they dodged. Maybe that will come back. I think there had also been a mention of the gunslinger to have a similar dodge thing where two little “golden .45s” appeared and allowed the hunter to have a quick john woo moment with 4 quick, albeit low-powered, shots. That could be fun. Even if they only did a total of 4 damage it could be a fun little thing for clips.
A shuriken dodge paired with the Bombardiers would be amazing
Big nerf for solar warlocks. Especially the healing. Not a fan tbh
I made a really good hunter build. I got a calus multitool with the perk that allows kills to scorch nearby enemies. And I paired that with the scorching enemies gives class ability energy along with the new dodge and I have insane radiant uptime
I have some healing stuff with this too but I forgot specifics
Damn I didn't know they added solar perks like for stasis why did Void get left out lol
Yea i got that perk on my drang (the perk is called incandescent) and it is really good. It is like a firefly that doesnt need headshots and spreads scorch.
Alternatively, try the multitool with weighted throwing knife +knock em down + ember of torches. I'm using that with ophidia spathe and melee kickstart and it's not bad. Your knives ignite and make you radiant, radiant knives refund your melee.
@@keldencowan imma try that out today
Playing primarily pve as warlock. Solar used to be my go too but after void 3.0 I switched back to void. Tried solar again with similar setup, sunbracers with grenades kills giving healing, but it honestly wasn’t it compared to void. When it worked and got going it was good but getting into the cycle is a lot harder than it is on void and just doesn’t seem worth it
I agree the warlock solar 3.0 feels a little underwhelming compared to the others
Definitely agreed. I've enjoyed all classes on warlock, stasis and arc are probably my least played. Solar 3.0 feels very underwhelming. The new melee is nice, and the double proc of fusion grenades seems strong. I don't play pvp so everything else feels pretty shallow.
@@stanbrusky85 stasis on warlock is one of the strongest subclasses in the entire game.
Titan main and I agree it just isn't worth using solar anymore
same killing enemies with grenade still make shots volatile for 9 seconds, where ignite in solar doesnt exist at all, it will be impossible to even reach that in gm. on start reused leviathan is all we got. 6.5gb update. what a joke. what those imbeciles and fat beta soyboiz were doing for 3 months. and weapons they sunset we have in relic, with again mega grind for useless enhanced perks that even if will be good they will nerf them next week. and machine gun stasis with osmosis. what imbecile did that. kinetic is for osmosis to have 3 elements. now what i will have only 2
Great video my dude! I'd say for this week keep the solar builds coming and any interesting synergies between certain exotics and the new solar 3.0 systems on any class.
Awesome breakdown, well done. Would love to see more builds this week. I was playing around with sunbracers and having a blast. It would be great to see an optimal build for that combined with wells. Cheers.
So melee is the way to go for Warlocks now. Overall for support Warlocks this is a massive L. Before i could be a great support class and not HAVE to run a lumina, because now it feels necessary. After playing a few hours in order to get back to old middle tree dawn i have to run
Melee Well maker
2x Impact induction (melee damage grants grenade energy)
Bountiful Wells
Well of Ordinance X2
This is because the Ember of Benevolence gives very little grenade energy back unlike before where you could pretty much get half of it back. This just feels like shit for former middle tree warlock mains
I loved my benevolent Dawn/boots of assembler combo :(
Yes assembler does feel a little like it don't fit in anymore since I'm not sure if it even works with the fragment that gives you all your ability energies since they are not technically the same as the solar verbs now but that's just an assumption tbh and as a fellow middle tree warlock main I'm actually pretty pumped by it I don't know why players are salty about now being able to charge grenades to get the health benefits it was ether you spec hard into grenades just so you can it back fast because u had to use one or the other and then there's always the time you choose the wrong one and ended up needing the other one I much rather have a way stronger healing grenade then a half ass one, that being said so many things are so new that some new builds and time will be needed and hopefully if and when a 4th aspect comes around it will be a support one
Personally I'm much more upset at the abysmal choice of artifact mods this season! like they are garbage there might be one I kind of like but nothing that's a must have and not to mention the further burying of warmind cells and the utter lack of new combat style mods at all seriously right now warmind cell mods make up almost half of every one and they seem to purposely not want people to use them plus they seem to be even fazing out CWL..like cmon I know season of the splicer wasn't super long time ago when we last got some but now they just seem to negate that whole feature outright
So the Warlock in all has been severely nerfed. It's a 10+ min cooldown and now it no longer increases duration with kills. Phoenix dive is now on a minute and a half cooldown from 5 seconds, we can no longer charge our grenade for healing, we have to pick one, and icarus dash is tied no longer tied with heat rises, of which also got a massive nerf as it doesn't give nearly enough airborne accuracy or flinch resistance. It feels so horrendous in crucible, and crucible feels even worse now than ever before.
Me want twilight garrison
@@Kaiwalski TTD was way too strong, it's good that it was reigned in.
@@RoxiieReadsLore Agreed but TTD is all we have now. Support/Well lock doesn't function because benevolent dawn got removed and the fragment doesn't do anywhere near enough to make up for it, and bottom tree dawn just got entirely outright removed. No more duration increase, no more explosion chaining, the only thing that got carried over was the flame wave on super impact.
I'd rather TTD get removed entirely and still have a functional support playstyle or even a damage worthy super.
As a warlock,I feel these nerfs would've been beautiful if we had self res.
@@silentmonster2759 Lmaoo I was trying to play btd today and was disappointed asf
Great video man. You got it out the door super quick and the example builds at the end were a really nice touch.
Thanks for getting this out so fast my dude!
When you tested heart of inmost light, you forgot to pop the grenade to increase the melee damage more
Been running the new hunter dodge with dragon shadows + the on your mark aspect it's ridiculous the amount buffs I get from 1 button having that with knock em down gives me infinite heavy knife with the radiant melee fragment
Finally! Thanks for the video dude, I've been waiting so hard!
I didn’t get to watch live this morning so thx for putting this out tonight. Keep up the good work.
I still need to try out hunter and titan, but so far warlock Solar 3.0 is feeling like a downgrade from our previous trees whereas voidwalker feels like a true upgrade and is amazing
Yep. I just don't see a good PVE build here.
Solar grenades + the lava blob aspect was just murdering everything in sight when I was running around the Leviathan. Made me jealous that I couldn't do it on my Titan.
@@christianglassel9950 It does extremely well in that kind of setup, but as soon as you poke it into endgame levels those grenades simply don't do enough damage to be worth it even with sunbracer spam.
@@VallornDeathblade Ah. Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
So I have a build that I use on my Titan right now
It’s possible for radiance, font of might and high energy fire to stack
Coupled with a solar primary with dragon fly like an ogma pr pulse or borrowed time smg or sunshot which work well with the flame harvesting mod in the artifact but sacrifice the exotic slot
Add on a well charge with light mod, melee wellmaker, font of might and high energy fire
Use throwing hammers on a trash mob to spawn a well and then go to town on everything else, then repeat till everything is dead
Big damage with big explosion and a gjallarhorn with even higher damage if you don't use sunshot
Wait radiant is NOT an empowering buff???? Holy shit!
Man Radiant can stack Might and HEF and absorption cells too. Time to dust off battle harmony
This is the video I've been waiting for! Thank you Fallout, you are truly a legend!
Great content. Thank you for putting this together. Especially for the quick builds at the end.
Not even halfway in and I LOVE IT; That new solar grenade with the aspect really shows they're getting creative again! Took a break off the game for a few months but if this is foreshadowing what's in store I'm all for it :D
You're only excited cause you missed Void 3.0. This is hard meh compared to void.
@@stlsaint1 I better give it a go then :P
So Hunter cried about Lorely having a damage buff on que. Bungie… Let’s give Hunter a dodge that gives them a damage buff SMDH
Glad you did this! I was looking forward to this kind of content the most!
Was in the stream today for the thumb nail making and dang! It turned out really good!
The one good thing about Phoenix dive on class ability is that you can take hyper mobile to a whole new level with icarus dash AND Phoenix dive. Still think it should have like a 15-30 second cooldown max though. Over a minute is stupid.
I love this now hunters are the jack of all trades with dps,add clear ,heal and buff .
Warlocks add clear is insane and titans are now spamming solar everywhere.
spaming? where? ignite triggers after tones of scorch, where volatile is easier to use and better. whole ad video was about event not abilites. its a scam
@@tomaszszupryczynski5453 disagree
@@tomaszszupryczynski5453 why are you crying 😭
@@tomaszszupryczynski5453 Did you miss the part where the Titan aspect can trigger ignite without requiring max scorch stacks, and also immediately returns energy on kill?
@@hmx8694 as far as i see there is only hammer dash that causes ignite on death. dont worry you will not trigger that on yellow bars. and its melee not aspect
These videos are so incredibly helpful. Thanks always taking the time to dive deep into the new content!
Great video...ty for taking a lot of your time and your friends time to create this video!
Man Bungie really shat on Titan, roaring flames (even at 3x with syntho) is weaker, no osk hammer which is way harder to land than any throwable in the game and sunspots got murdered again. The new melee aspect is cool but only 1 fragment, while other classes can get up to 5, not surprised.
The Warlock build seems fun, I haven't tried with ahamkara, but on PVE with sunbracers is so fun af.
Warlock went form a subclass that could clear a room on bottom tree to only being able to crutch on sunbracers. Hunters never had anything exciting in their solar classes as they were really just golden gun bots. Bungie failed on all 3 reworks. I thought void was pretty rough, but they learned absolutely nothing from their past failures.
Except Titan can activate a 25% damage buff as they please
@@SpliffyHusk They can't. Stop with this bs, read the freaking twab at least if you won't try it in game or at least watch the damn video.
Titan doesn't have damage buff "as they please" that's Hunter.
@@FcoEnriquePerez Stop being toxic just because you upset :/
Hunter is awesome now lol
Seeing the warlock grenade throw animation and seeing a tripmine coming out of that just looks weird
Thanks for the in-depth analysis on all this new lingo lol was reading really slow yesterday to try to understand all of this
Dope! Thanks for the breakdowns of the classes and fragments.
Radiant is a 25% damage buff in pve btw
Healing-wise, titans got nerfed so bad. I'm probably particularly biased against it because I loved my thermite armamentarium build, but still. You have to try and create a sunspot where you can run to without being damaged. Sigh, gotta play it to see but not stoked. New melee seems neat though.
Lorely. Try it
@@TitanMain12 Lorely is straight ASS sauce right now
@@TitanMain12 good joke
Thank you! Vids always so useful!
So, the Titan build I have been rocking in PVE (still working on my pvp one) uses Heart of Inner most Light and essentially just chains abilities. Consecration is amazing for add clear and even does a TON of damage to champions and majors in the Containment event, especially once you tack x2 melee damage from Inner Most Light. It easily one shot a lot of yellow bars and champions. With Solar Grenades or Thermite Grenades you can pump out a ton of AoE damage and constantly have either your grenade or melee up and dropping barricades off cooldown to keep the damage and cooldowns ramped up. I use rally barricades because they both block less line of fire for my team mates and can extend my weapon range if the need calls for it.
It'll need time, but I'm really not a fan of the changes so far.
Nerfed benevolent dawn along with no option to choose regular vs healing grenade on the fly cripples cleric warlock. Lack of super regen and ease of explosion chaining hurts the ad clear potential as well.
Titans got absolutely screwed imo. Roaring flames nerf already sucks, but sun spots got absolutely neutered by losing the damage buff while also reducing the ability regen.
I only played solar hunter for celestial, so I have no opinions there. I was really excited for mobile healer warlock and sunspot hammer Titan, but this has me super underwhelmed so far.
Agreed fav subclass isn't worth using anymore, void does anything good it has left better
Titans do feel kinda shafted. I hope they buff exotics to remedy some of the lost perks. Like dawn chorus is still underwhelming give it the super regen from bottom dawn. Im totally okay with sunspots loosing their dmg buff but now they need to do double dmg and be threatening and phoenix craddle should make sunspots give radiant. Lorley has extra ability regen while craddle gets the dmg cus its harder to activate especially without mortar blast now. Bonk hammer didnt deserve these nerfs i hope my ashen wake build can still one shot. Pheonix dive deserves either a shorter cooldown or it should give ya 3 secs of restoration and cure. For cure i wish they added a clause that cleanses you of all debuffs. It would stop volatile weaken ignites thorn poision everything. There are 2 fragments that alter your super one gives ignite the other better tracking, those shoulda jus been 1 fragment im sad i lost my healing nades sunbracer build but those lava blobs do serious work and finally allow me to spam solar nades at bosses and each one will stack at least from the lava blobs and i can rock well while playing as roy mustang. My titan is spamming solar nades with heart of inmost light and hunters actually feel amazing they got some awesome build potential. Overall im pretty happy but titans really feel like they got shafted even their exotic is jus kinda boring not comparable to secant filaments or embrace.
I agree with you. these kits are underwhelming, except i could make a case that hunters got the best end of the stick. titans got fleeced. warlocks gutted. just my opinion right now maybe it will change. void 3.0 was miles ahead of this overall.
@@joelrobinson5457 Titan lost healing from solar ability kills, huge nerf in PvE. Stick to void boys
I have a build for the warlocks, Winter's Guile, Elemental light, heavy handed, any shotty with one two punch, heat rises, literally, LITERALLY Roy, with the power to destroy everything if you can ramp up Winter's Guile
I have to add to the Roy build, If you use Sunbracers, touch of flame, incediary snap, and a few fragments that recharge your melee. you can have 5 FUCKING solar grenades from a SINGLE proc of Sunbracers.
And me with a decently rolled Winters Guile. My dream of becoming Roy is nigh!
@@TheShuuman Make it stasis and remember to use elemental light, Elemental melee, heavy handed elemental explosive wellmaker and font of wisdom for good measure, also the arc helm mod to make super out of melee kills.
Fun thing I’ve been using so far: Promethian spur can still activate while you have Phoenix Dive equipped. Even more-All in one setup.
Heart of inmost light also activates twice with the consecration aspect giving you empowered barricade and grenade x2. One for the upswing and one for the slam.
Young Ahamkaras Spine is extremely good now. Like, somehow stronger than it did before!
Tripmines burn now, so I'd imagine that exotic is quite good. Probably even annoying to play against. Time to try them out 😎
Bungie just killed most of the warlock synergy, super gains from the old bottom tree and makes you a have to play a support role just to use the nerfed dive with a unreasonable timer. Bungie says they play alot of warlocks but they have to hate them
Where were you last season when warlocks got the cool shit and hunters got the boring 3 ways to go invis and literally nothing else
@@caydesmith7021Void 3.0 was even more or a nerf to warlocks bruh. Hand held got nerfed, all grenades for warlocks got nerfed, devour for warlocks got nerfed and the stuff we got is all situational and to use nerfed handheld, warlocks have to use a grenade that doesn't match warlock playstyle and movement and is easy to hit yourself with especially trying to teleport. Why does some hunter main always complain about nerfs when the game literally benefits hunters the most
@@mybubbajub Okay, dude, I was with you in your first comment, but not this one.
Void 3.0 was most certainly not a nerf to Warlocks. Charging your grenades, then releasing would fire a massive grenade that you'd get very easily when running Devour. Run double Ashes to Assets and you'd get a very good super (slova or warp) back very quickly. All abilities activate Devour, which refunds grenade energy, and you run Contraverse, that's MOAR grenades.
Run Echo of Undermining, the Echo that made enemies explode, and the Echo that increased the duration of devour, and you had a build that benefited the more enemies were in front of you. What does "situational" even mean? You charge a grenade, then throw it at enemies. Get a super in a couple of seconds, throw that. Rinse repeat. In that scenario, "situational" is "all the time".
Hell, with such a build, shooting your gun was more of a luxury. I agree that Solar 3.0 is lacking, but Void certainly wasn't and isn't. Not for Warlocks, anyway.
Thanks for the overview. Good starting point.
Mad respect for this. Such a great deep dive and explanation
I had a Star Eater Scales build set up so that it could run on any subclass and use their matching Trace. Lo and behold Prometheus Lens absolutely borks the new Hunter stuff. The Weighted Knife feels so damn good and I can’t wait to do some experimenting with Arthrys Embracse, Ophidia Spathe, and Celestial Nighthawk
Titans definitely got the short end of the stick with this one, the only real change here is the melee aspect and the new nades.
All 3 classes got fucked. Warlocks lost almost all pve aspects, hunters lost key parts of their kits and have nothing exciting in their favor outside of the new bomb thing. Bungie did an awful job on all of them.
Titans got the better end tbh, they have both sunspots and roaring flames at the same time it is going to be very strong just give it time
@@_Fryce_ Sounds like you're just playing in the wrong mindset. You can do a lot of cool stuff, and there's plenty we haven't discovered yet; including the new exotic(s). You just sound mad ultra salty about change, hope you can get over it and learn to enjoy things again.
@@MrInsiipid the changes are objectively bad dude. Cope some more
But sunspots don’t give a damage boost, and only half the ability regen they used to. And Roaring Flames only give 20% per stack, instead of 30%.
Straight up nerf
i have quit pvp for sometime now but with this new fire builds i would love more titan builds for pvp...thanks hopefully coming back is a good time
This video is what I exactly wanted. Thanks Fallout :D
solar 3.0 aka the warlock PVE solar nerf.
Honestly they needed it
Yep
This will probably be lost, but if you want to go boom with hunter. Use Acrobats dodge, knife trick, tripmine grenade, and your preferred super.
Aspects: Gunpowder gamble and On your mark
Fragments: Ember of, Wonder, Blistering, Eruption, and Solace
Additional recommend gear: Young Ahamkara spine, and Tommy’s Matchbook.
Very fun is all I can say.
Also use bombardiers I guess
Dexter McKinney, I’m gonna give that a go. Thanks!
Thank you, brother. I appreciate you and your friends.
I like that titan build, but I'm gonna try it with a Wellspring Summoner to synergies with the Path of Burning Steps.
its honestly quite disappointing to see sun warrior get gutted as bad as it did especially in PvE
Edit: sunshot should also either apply scorch with direct damage or have the incandescent perk which creates a burst of scorch on final blows sorry not sorry
With void, everyone but hunters felt good to me. Now it's the opposite with Solar; loving my healer hunter setup, but I no longer like Dawnblade, and Hammer of Sol is not as interesting.
I’m the opposite. I was a Solar hunter main but void hunter feels wayyy better than Solar now and it pains me
How hell was solar hunter better than solar 3.0 before. Every node was objectively worse, and y’all didn’t really lose anything
You could probably run divinity with that sample hunter build as well I would assume, which is also helped by new changes to trace rifles this season
I was really hoping there’d be explosive chain reactions, similar to void 3.0 or shattering enemies. Don’t misunderstand, I’m liking Solar 3.0 so far, I’m still experimenting with it (I’m a Hunter main), though it’s difficult to tell when an enemy is scorched or when they’re ignited. It’s difficult to discern when/if the debuff on enemies are taking effects. With that said, I do appreciate this deep dive explanation of Solar 3.0.
Scorch cannot kill, similar to standing in a barricade
honest take: not at all impressed with solar for warlocks, where did bottom tree go? they friggin deleted the better spec for pve!
Support got gutted as well. Honestly I’m just sad now when I look at solar
@@johnnyparse23 right? its like they were so proud of void spec they just decided to poop all over solar. thank god the season looks promising or I might have just skipped it entirely.
For me I use sunbracers with the solar grenade. I also use the grenade aspect as well as the heat rises aspect. It’s great for pve crowd control. Building into getting your melee as fast as possible also builds towards your grenade, the two charge really fast especially when grenade hit mods give melee energy. I love it.
I'm using the hollow heart and thermite grenade. Hitting a few enemies with the titan melee I can instantly have it back if it's a decent sized group or have it like 80% recharged. It's pretty nutty
Testing
Hunter healer, Lumina, Lucky Pants/WormHusk Crown.
Hunter Melee Radiance, Ophidia Spathe/Sixth Coyote, Monte Carlo
Somehow Bungie made these “reworks” less customizable than the stupid ability trees; they did the same thing with void. The aspects , especially on warlock, don’t feel as impactful as the stasis aspects. They gave the ability to customize our class like in D1 but removed 90% of the customization options.
This is the best way of Explanation
It'd be very helpful to know what the scorch values for everything is. We could work out synergies and combos, try to figure out exactly how we can proc ignite as effectively as possible for our various reasons.
Awesome video, watched it during the day while at work.
I'd like to see more thoughts on builds, and thoughts on the season and the weapons and God rolls for PvE and PvP... That's basically it.
Always enjoy your content, and the hard work you put into your videos.
Titan got fucking nerfed for NO reason. No 1 shot hammers, sunspots got nerfed AGAIN, no more healing from solar ability kills, no more sunspots dropping from normal kills while sol invictus active(?). Why should I play the class? because of some weirdo 1 shot melee ability?
This happened as a result of loreley splendor, although man...everyone got nerfed hard, except maybe hunter's
@@iansantiago6526 Loreley should've gotten thrown into the gutter man
Out of every class, Hunters got the best of the changes and arguably got a massive buff overall for solar 3.0. The tracking for blade barrage is nuts with the fragment and going from 6 knives to 12 base is wild before the aspect gets added.
@@KitsuneSlayerPC It's inarguable lol hunters are eating good and warlocks and titans feel terrible
yea man void 3.0 was amazing but solar 3.0really just feels like just a bunch of nerfs and unnecessary steps backward
I don't like the lessened survivability from turning the healing grenade into its own option, rather than letting it stay as a charged option. I understand that, this way, every class can use it - but I _relied_ on being able to do that while running Solar Warlock, and I feel a bit crippled without it.
Also, not a fan of the aspects. The bonus grenade functionality aspect is nice, but the other two feel like a "lol I dunno we'll split part of a playstyle in two I guess" butt-pull.
Crutch
Clicked as soon as it dropped man haven't got to okay cause I'm stuck at work still but this looks great I'm loving the new melee as well it looks very cool
But awesome video hope you keep the videos rolling out, I super enjoy the content you put out.
Massive nerfs to solar warlock, to get the same effect we need to do twice as much, also half our exotic synergy is broken. Lmao
Sadly it was a nerf to all 3. I was hoping they would learn from how much they fucked up the void reworks but they somehow took a step back. At this point I don't even want them to touch arc.
@@_Fryce_ Oh, you're literally just putting this shit on every comment. Nevermind. Hope you find a hobby you enjoy.
I feel it's stupid to be force to use these gimmick exotics that only work in specific activities
For anyone whos a warlock who sees this, try Sunbracers combined with the solar grenade with touch of flame. Once you get the 4 seconds of grenade spam, nothing can stand against you. Combine that with some fragments and mods, you are unstoppable lol
That's all there is sunbracers.
A Bandaid for an Amputation, that's not healthy.
With the fragment that makes it so that powered melee kills make you radiant and knock em down you can get your knife back if you get a kill with it
For the warlock you could use verity’s brow or sun bracers for some very nice nade spam, although this makes the build better in pve.
Even if the snap melee did 0 damage id use it. Roleplaying as mustang is too cool
Is it just me, or does solar 3.0 for warlock feel incredibly meh? I played around with it for about an hour and went straight back to void.
They murdered titan as well
@@richieh7476 damn 😞
Yeah solar 3.0 so far just feels meh or balanced . We were spoiled with the over tuned void 3.0 lol
@@soap8949 It doesn't help that Void's identity was so much stronger than Solars. I get what they were trying to do with Solar, but it doesn't have the same impact Void did so far. Hopefully the new exotics shake things up considerably.
@@soap8949 speak for yourself, solar hunter is amazing after a meh nightstalker
Dawnblade's "thermite" effect was in bottom tree iirc so not exactly new new RIP
Bottom tree also heavily tracked targets!
Good vid, thanks!