Anyway, if you already have the Bosch PBD 40 and want to improve it, you can change the chuck. The chuck this machine is delivered with is really not for bench drill machines, but for small hand impact drill machines. If you are interested in changing the chuck you can have a look at my video: th-cam.com/video/nCqVoaGVK8g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AgRw1wfMCc6FUmJq showing how to do it. And here is the answer to the question you asked about what did I replace the Bosch PBD 40 with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine.
I get it doesn’t meet your requirements but going by what you said, you’ve used it for 10 years and it’s now got half a millimetre slop on it. For the price, I’d say that’s actually very good. Seems you’ve been using it at it’s limits most of the time as well, so again, I’d consider that pretty good going. Going on other reviews and this one, I’ve just ordered one.
Well, both yes and no. Yes, it's an old machine so... what should I expect...? BUT... the wobble was there all the time, from day one, and as I said in my video, now that I considered to buy a new one because this is 10 years old, I wanted the same again, so I went around and checked out in a few shops to see if there was any improvement made during the 10 years, but no, nothing. The only change is that the models sold today have a chip guard, which seemed to be useless and cheap. The slop is not a half millimeter, it's half mm in one direction and another 0.2 - 0.5 in the other direction, so in total that's about one millimeter. That's only the machine head. Add to that the spindle wobble, and you have almost two mm wobble, which is far too much. While I liked this machine for a long time, these problems have always been there. The spindle wobble is fixable, but the head wobble is not. None of the issues are caused by heavy use, I mostly used on wood, plastics and aluminium, rarely drilling in steel. But now I am changing direction and will be working more with heavier material, so buying a new PBD 40 would be pretty dumb. But sure, it is a nice machine, and if I would not need more precision or would only use it on wood, this would be almost perfect.
Certainly has it's limitations it seems but I have seen it used as a milling machine in other youtube videos. However I get the impression with the backlash on the Rack & Pinion mechanism, drilling anything other than single holes in metal accurately will not be a complete success. As you say - virtually impossible to eliminate the backlash. I think it will be an improvement on my (cheap) drill press though, so still intend to buy one, and change the chuck as you have demonstrated (thank you) so I can drill tiny, vertical holes in metal that are actually vertical.........
I did not regret buying the PBD 40. It got me started and served me well. Yes, it has it's limitations, but it has also many advantages compared to similarly priced drill machines. I would however avoid buying the knock-offs Lidl and some other shops are selling. Those are cheaper for a reason, not exactly identical copies. The Bosch has for example a very good motor control electronics and has a powerful motor. I have used mine for about 10 years, but now it was time to move on and get an even better one. But the new one is also much larger and twice as expensive. However, people who use the PBD 40 for milling are in my opinion crazy and have no clue about what they are doing. They are in constant danger because an ordinary drill chuck, no matter which brand or quality, is not made for the type of forces which is exhibited during milling. Even if you don't care about precision, it is very dangerous because the chuck might open any time and you can get the mill bit or some chips flying right into your eyes. So it's crazy and dangerous for you and for everyone around you.
My problem was not backlash, there is no backlash in this machine, since there are no lead screws, apart from the rack / pinion mechanism of the Z movement. The problem is wobbling and there is no way to fix that. Here is the machine I replaced with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine.
I found the same problem when i tested a bosch in store. Ended up buying an old 1960's Japanese drill press and putting a brushless DC motor made for a commercial sewing machine on it. Total cost was less than the bosch.
Yes, that's one reason why I am not buying a new PBD 40 again. After all the years this machine was on the market (I had mine for 10 years) this simple issue is still not fixed. Every one I checked in every store has the same issue. It could be easily fixed if they would change the rack to a bit wider one or at least would add some set screws to tighten and adjust the wobble. It's a shame because I really like this machine.
You could theoretically shim the rack. Accurately measure the rack width and the slot it goes into and then buy a strip of shim the right size and glue it with Araldite to one side of the rack. Or shim the slot which may be easier. Or buy a decent industrial drill 2nd hand. Like a Meddings, Startrite, Fobco or Arboga. I have a Fobco & an Arboga. Both cost around £300 at auction but these were good prices. The Fobco 7/8 is usually £600 and the Arboga around the same.
Believe me, I tried shimming, but it is not possible with this machine. You must have it to understand the problem, I could show it if I still had it, but I don't. I bought a new machine, which will be just fine for me for now. As for second hand industrial machines... well, no thank you. I believe those are hit and miss, you can be lucky, or you can get one which which means a lot of renovation work before it can be any good, or it is too big for the space I have, or too expensive when delivery is included, which many times NOT included or possible, so I have to collect and arrange transport, which is expensive where I live.
@@AdaptingCamera Fair enough. However, drills aren't milling machines. They usually either work or they don't. Normally you can switch things on at an auction so that tells you if it works. Next, grab the chuck and pull it back and forth. Any play is unacceptable. For drills.. that's about it. The #1 problem is most industrial drills (even small ones) are 3ph. Which isn't the giant PITA it was 30 years ago when I bought my drills. Now you can buy a top quality Yaskawa 2hp, 240 to 415 VFD for £80. And with that you get electronic speed control, soft start AND the ability to reverse the drill. As for transport... you have local auctioneers I'm sure. Most drills you'd be interested in will fit in the boot of a family car and will be a one man lift. Seriously, once you use industrial machinery you'll wonder why you ever bought (or could live with) anything else. Every machine I own dates from the 60s/70s and all of them will outlive me by a long distance. Buy quality. Buy once.
Thanks for your tutorial videos. Can you please let me know which new one you are going to buy? I was planning in September to buy a Bosch PBD 40, but with your informative video I stopped - it saved me from buying this machine, so your opinion - experience matters. Thank you in advance.
I am glad you liked my videos. At the moment I don't want to mention which one I bought, but the price was twice that of the PBD 40. I would not buy a cheaper one and expect it to be better than the PBD 40. I am planning to make a video about it, so I'll get back. Anyway, to be honest, I was happy with the PBD 40 for about ten years, so it served me well and did not regret buying it.
@@AdaptingCamera Thank you for your reply..I will wait for your test video with new drill you bought. (?? estimate time of your new video to youtube ????????)
@@kyriakosmavrommatis5884 Hi. Here is the answer: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine.
I really enjoyed your video with a new chuck. I have ordered achuck myself. I will not drill metal so the wobbling issues is probably not relevant for me.
Thank you for the comment, I appreciate it. I hope you will look at my other videos also and find them interesting. There will be no more PBD 40 video from me, but will definitely post videos about my other machines.
No. I use it for drilling metal, in this video I use a hole saw and planned to mill the recession it created in a real mill. Milling with a drill machine chuck would be dangerous and dumb. I know some people do it, but I don't. This machine is definitely not suitable for milling, I never expected that it would be... 😃😂
But did you ever checked what is the max diameter in steel reccomended for this tool? On the official bosch website it clearly says max 13mm for steel... So you are trying to drill probably a 40mm hole (about 300% overload), and you complain it is not up to the task / it develops play and makes funny noise? Really?
Mine has way more play than that from new. Shame as i really like the features. But unfortunately it is useless if it can't drill accurately. Replaced with a second hand brobo Weldon, absolute beautiful machine
@@wanekt.8712 My problem has nothing to do with the hole saw I am using. Also, the recommendation is for drilling. A drill is much more of a load than a hole saw, therefore your math is totally wrong. There is no 300% overload at all, you can't just compare the size of two holes, 13mm and 40mm and say that 40mm is 300% larger, so the load is 300% more. It's really not that simple at all. If it were 300% overload the machine would stop, and also, it's easy to overload the machine with smaller than 13 mm drills also.
@@jasonellis5202 I am sorry that you share my experience. I don't know the Weldon, never heard about it. Here is the machine I replaced with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine. But I would not recommend this machine, because it is not problem free and also because I have no experience with any other machines except the ones I have or have had.
Interesting. Food for thought, makes me wonder whether to proceed to buy one of these or planned or something else. What make and model of pillar drill did you upgrade to instead ?
To be honest, I was quite happy with the PBD 40 for ten years. The reason is that it has many features, which I liked a lot so I forgave the negatives. But in the end I felt that I really need a better one, because I am mostly using my machine for metal. And by "mostly", I mean 99.99%. The PBD 40 is a good all around machine and in my opinion it is extremely worth for most hobbyists, who mainly use it on wood. Regarding my new drill press, I want to keep quiet about that for now because I am currently in discussion with the manufacturer. So for now, I don't want to mention the brand and the model. It was though twice as expensive as the PBD 40.
Hi, I am sorry, I am not a drill machine tester and can not recommend any machine, I can only share my experience. I am planning to make a video of my new machine, but since I have no access to any other machine, it is hard for me to say if there are better ones or not. I made a survey which satisfies my needs and is within my budget for a machine. Our needs and budgets may not be the same, and also, the machine I am using may not be available where you live.
Here is the machine I replaced with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine. But I would not recommend this machine, because it is not problem free and also because I have no experience with any other machines except the ones I have or have had.
After starting up and a few seconds at full speed, the drill turns itself off. It has to be turned off and on again, it spins and turns off again. Where is the fault? Throw it out and buy another one? The repair may be more expensive than a new one. Please advise where the problem is!_Thank you
It's very difficult to say. Maybe it's overloaded? Mabe so simple that there is something wrong with the switch? How should I know without even having seen it? Make a video and post it on TH-cam, maybe that would give us a clue.
I bought this one: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html In many ways it is much better, but it is also twice as expensive. I don't know where you live, and honestly, I can't recommend any machines, since I am not a tester and have only one.
fter starting up and a few seconds at full speed, the drill turns itself off. It has to be turned off and on again, it spins and turns off again. Where is the fault? Throw it out and buy another one? The repair may be more expensive than a new one. Please advise where the problem is!_Thank you
You must remember that this machine is an old design, long before brushless motors were acceptably priced, like today. Nevertheless, while brushless motors have advantages, there is actually nothing wrong with the motor and the controller of the PBD 40. It has a constant speed controller which actually works very well, so if you load the machine, the motor will not slow down, which is actually great. So without that feature, a brushless motor would be worse. Brushed motors have a disadvantage in noise, but because this machine has a mechanical gear box, it is very noisy already, so having a motor with less noise would make no difference. I agree about the chuck, it's horrible and Bosch should have chosen a better one.
Yes, the Bosch PBD 40 has some nice features. In the end, the total play got me to dump it and to buy this one: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html In many ways, the new machine is considerably better. It is much quieter, and way more precise, but it is also much more expensive.
I stay away from green bosh, the hobby class is just an evil way from bosh company to take the customers from smaller tool makers, making junk tools simply for the fact of taking that part of the market too. They are just too greedy to make only professinal tools. The professinal class, the blue ones are good tools, i had some, abused the hell out of them and still work just fine. The green ones are trash. You are expecting precision from a tool wich is designed to be as cheap as possible. If they were to make those tolerances really tight that would've required more care and attention, that would've increase the price and then the tool would not fit into a price category wich would bring profits to the company, again, the tool is designed to take the customers from smaller brands, simply because it has a bosh logo on it. You would probably find a much better drill press in this money from a not so famous brand. This is the thing about big tool manufacturers, with some tools they just abuse the trust people have in their brand to sell junk.
You are wrong on many counts. This machine is excellent when you need a small and compact machine and not need the high precision. It was good enough for me also for about ten years, even though I used it mostly for metal. Nevertheless, there comes a time, if you are serious with what you are doing, when an upgrade is necessary and when you start needing more than what this machine is offering. I did not regret buying this machine and using it for so long time. You can't get a better one for this price if you consider all the features it has. ...and before you say that they just fancy, useless features, not, they are not. The features are very useful and at least I used all the features every time I used this machine.
I have to tell you that the problems you show in this video are not really relevant to a drill that costs 250 Euros, its very very good for the money, if you want a drill that you can show how it doesnt move half a millimeter with precision tools, then you better be ok to spend 1000 euros.. No Offence.. I realise you are showing its flaws, but again its under 300 euros.. What do you expect ?
No offence, but you don't know what you are talking about. Yes, the PBD 40 has some advantages, but the drill head wobbling is a real problem, which easily could have been avoided if Bosch would have used better rack and pinion parts plus added two screws and a gib to make it user adjustable. In fact, I have a fairly cheap hand drill machine stand, made by Wolfcraft www.wolfcraft.com/products/wolfcraft/en/EUR/Products/Attachments-for-Machines/Drill-Stands/Drill-Stand/p/P_5027 which has those set screws m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71-HwiPdgmL._AC_SL1500_.jpg for that specific reason, and it works well and it costs only about 120 € where I am living, even cheaper on Amazon.de, there you can get it for 100 €. So it is something Bosch should have addressed, because while this may not be a problem for you, it is a problem for me and many others and is easily fixable. Also, every half decent bench drill machine is infinitely better regarding this issue, starting around 150 €. I mean, sure, they might have other issues, but not this, and for 250 € you can definitely get better machines in Europe. Just look at Scheppach DP 19 Vario, you can get it for 200 € on Amazon, and while it is not what I bought, it would definitely beat the Bosch PBD 40 and it is easy to find even other machines at or below the price of the PBD 40, which is more like 300 € where I am living.
To start with, it's a bit more where I live, almost 300 €, and for 300 € you can actually get a much better machine here and everywhere else. I am not saying this is a bad machine if you can live with the weaknesses it has, and change the chuck, but if you change the chuck and want quality you need to spend another 100 €. So you see, it is more expensive than only 200 €. But the main reason for me to get rid of this machine is the machine head wobble, which is a none-existent issue even in a 100 € tiny bench drill.
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Anyway, if you already have the Bosch PBD 40 and want to improve it, you can change the chuck. The chuck this machine is delivered with is really not for bench drill machines, but for small hand impact drill machines. If you are interested in changing the chuck you can have a look at my video: th-cam.com/video/nCqVoaGVK8g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=AgRw1wfMCc6FUmJq showing how to do it.
And here is the answer to the question you asked about what did I replace the Bosch PBD 40 with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine.
I get it doesn’t meet your requirements but going by what you said, you’ve used it for 10 years and it’s now got half a millimetre slop on it. For the price, I’d say that’s actually very good. Seems you’ve been using it at it’s limits most of the time as well, so again, I’d consider that pretty good going. Going on other reviews and this one, I’ve just ordered one.
Well, both yes and no. Yes, it's an old machine so... what should I expect...? BUT... the wobble was there all the time, from day one, and as I said in my video, now that I considered to buy a new one because this is 10 years old, I wanted the same again, so I went around and checked out in a few shops to see if there was any improvement made during the 10 years, but no, nothing. The only change is that the models sold today have a chip guard, which seemed to be useless and cheap. The slop is not a half millimeter, it's half mm in one direction and another 0.2 - 0.5 in the other direction, so in total that's about one millimeter. That's only the machine head. Add to that the spindle wobble, and you have almost two mm wobble, which is far too much. While I liked this machine for a long time, these problems have always been there. The spindle wobble is fixable, but the head wobble is not. None of the issues are caused by heavy use, I mostly used on wood, plastics and aluminium, rarely drilling in steel. But now I am changing direction and will be working more with heavier material, so buying a new PBD 40 would be pretty dumb. But sure, it is a nice machine, and if I would not need more precision or would only use it on wood, this would be almost perfect.
Certainly has it's limitations it seems but I have seen it used as a milling machine in other youtube videos. However I get the impression with the backlash on the Rack & Pinion mechanism, drilling anything other than single holes in metal accurately will not be a complete success. As you say - virtually impossible to eliminate the backlash. I think it will be an improvement on my (cheap) drill press though, so still intend to buy one, and change the chuck as you have demonstrated (thank you) so I can drill tiny, vertical holes in metal that are actually vertical.........
I did not regret buying the PBD 40. It got me started and served me well. Yes, it has it's limitations, but it has also many advantages compared to similarly priced drill machines. I would however avoid buying the knock-offs Lidl and some other shops are selling. Those are cheaper for a reason, not exactly identical copies. The Bosch has for example a very good motor control electronics and has a powerful motor. I have used mine for about 10 years, but now it was time to move on and get an even better one. But the new one is also much larger and twice as expensive. However, people who use the PBD 40 for milling are in my opinion crazy and have no clue about what they are doing. They are in constant danger because an ordinary drill chuck, no matter which brand or quality, is not made for the type of forces which is exhibited during milling. Even if you don't care about precision, it is very dangerous because the chuck might open any time and you can get the mill bit or some chips flying right into your eyes. So it's crazy and dangerous for you and for everyone around you.
My problem was not backlash, there is no backlash in this machine, since there are no lead screws, apart from the rack / pinion mechanism of the Z movement. The problem is wobbling and there is no way to fix that. Here is the machine I replaced with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine.
I found the same problem when i tested a bosch in store. Ended up buying an old 1960's Japanese drill press and putting a brushless DC motor made for a commercial sewing machine on it.
Total cost was less than the bosch.
Yes, that's one reason why I am not buying a new PBD 40 again. After all the years this machine was on the market (I had mine for 10 years) this simple issue is still not fixed. Every one I checked in every store has the same issue. It could be easily fixed if they would change the rack to a bit wider one or at least would add some set screws to tighten and adjust the wobble. It's a shame because I really like this machine.
You could theoretically shim the rack. Accurately measure the rack width and the slot it goes into and then buy a strip of shim the right size and glue it with Araldite to one side of the rack.
Or shim the slot which may be easier.
Or buy a decent industrial drill 2nd hand. Like a Meddings, Startrite, Fobco or Arboga.
I have a Fobco & an Arboga. Both cost around £300 at auction but these were good prices. The Fobco 7/8 is usually £600 and the Arboga around the same.
Believe me, I tried shimming, but it is not possible with this machine. You must have it to understand the problem, I could show it if I still had it, but I don't. I bought a new machine, which will be just fine for me for now. As for second hand industrial machines... well, no thank you. I believe those are hit and miss, you can be lucky, or you can get one which which means a lot of renovation work before it can be any good, or it is too big for the space I have, or too expensive when delivery is included, which many times NOT included or possible, so I have to collect and arrange transport, which is expensive where I live.
@@AdaptingCamera Fair enough.
However, drills aren't milling machines. They usually either work or they don't.
Normally you can switch things on at an auction so that tells you if it works.
Next, grab the chuck and pull it back and forth. Any play is unacceptable.
For drills.. that's about it.
The #1 problem is most industrial drills (even small ones) are 3ph.
Which isn't the giant PITA it was 30 years ago when I bought my drills.
Now you can buy a top quality Yaskawa 2hp, 240 to 415 VFD for £80.
And with that you get electronic speed control, soft start AND the ability to reverse the drill.
As for transport... you have local auctioneers I'm sure. Most drills you'd be interested in will fit in the boot of a family car and will be a one man lift.
Seriously, once you use industrial machinery you'll wonder why you ever bought (or could live with) anything else.
Every machine I own dates from the 60s/70s and all of them will outlive me by a long distance.
Buy quality. Buy once.
Thanks for your tutorial videos. Can you please let me know which new one you are going to buy? I was planning in September to buy a Bosch PBD 40, but with your informative video I stopped - it saved me from buying this machine, so your opinion - experience matters. Thank you in advance.
I am glad you liked my videos. At the moment I don't want to mention which one I bought, but the price was twice that of the PBD 40. I would not buy a cheaper one and expect it to be better than the PBD 40. I am planning to make a video about it, so I'll get back. Anyway, to be honest, I was happy with the PBD 40 for about ten years, so it served me well and did not regret buying it.
@@AdaptingCamera Thank you for your reply..I will wait for your test video with new drill you bought.
(?? estimate time of your new video to youtube ????????)
@@kyriakosmavrommatis5884 Hi. Here is the answer: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine.
I really enjoyed your video with a new chuck. I have ordered achuck myself. I will not drill metal so the wobbling issues is probably not relevant for me.
Thank you for the comment, I appreciate it. I hope you will look at my other videos also and find them interesting. There will be no more PBD 40 video from me, but will definitely post videos about my other machines.
Correct me if I am wrong, but It seems you are trying to use an amateur drill press as a milling machine.
No. I use it for drilling metal, in this video I use a hole saw and planned to mill the recession it created in a real mill. Milling with a drill machine chuck would be dangerous and dumb. I know some people do it, but I don't. This machine is definitely not suitable for milling, I never expected that it would be... 😃😂
But did you ever checked what is the max diameter in steel reccomended for this tool?
On the official bosch website it clearly says max 13mm for steel... So you are trying to drill probably a 40mm hole (about 300% overload), and you complain it is not up to the task / it develops play and makes funny noise? Really?
Mine has way more play than that from new. Shame as i really like the features. But unfortunately it is useless if it can't drill accurately.
Replaced with a second hand brobo Weldon, absolute beautiful machine
@@wanekt.8712 My problem has nothing to do with the hole saw I am using. Also, the recommendation is for drilling. A drill is much more of a load than a hole saw, therefore your math is totally wrong. There is no 300% overload at all, you can't just compare the size of two holes, 13mm and 40mm and say that 40mm is 300% larger, so the load is 300% more. It's really not that simple at all. If it were 300% overload the machine would stop, and also, it's easy to overload the machine with smaller than 13 mm drills also.
@@jasonellis5202 I am sorry that you share my experience. I don't know the Weldon, never heard about it. Here is the machine I replaced with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine. But I would not recommend this machine, because it is not problem free and also because I have no experience with any other machines except the ones I have or have had.
Interesting. Food for thought, makes me wonder whether to proceed to buy one of these or planned or something else. What make and model of pillar drill did you upgrade to instead ?
To be honest, I was quite happy with the PBD 40 for ten years. The reason is that it has many features, which I liked a lot so I forgave the negatives. But in the end I felt that I really need a better one, because I am mostly using my machine for metal. And by "mostly", I mean 99.99%. The PBD 40 is a good all around machine and in my opinion it is extremely worth for most hobbyists, who mainly use it on wood. Regarding my new drill press, I want to keep quiet about that for now because I am currently in discussion with the manufacturer. So for now, I don't want to mention the brand and the model. It was though twice as expensive as the PBD 40.
This is the answer: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html
HELLO, WHEN I TURN ON THE MACHINE IT STOPS AFTER A WHILE, HOW CAN I FIX THIS?
Sorry, I have no idea. Perhaps it's overheating? Maybe something wrong with the switch? Very difficult to say, especially without seeing it happening.
Hello, Can you recommend me 2-3 brands of bench drills. Thank you in advance.
Hi, I am sorry, I am not a drill machine tester and can not recommend any machine, I can only share my experience. I am planning to make a video of my new machine, but since I have no access to any other machine, it is hard for me to say if there are better ones or not. I made a survey which satisfies my needs and is within my budget for a machine. Our needs and budgets may not be the same, and also, the machine I am using may not be available where you live.
Here is the machine I replaced with: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html The new machine is better in many ways, it is much quieter and definitely more rigid and way more precise. No wobbling anywhere, so I don't regret my decision, even if not everything is perfect in this machine. But I would not recommend this machine, because it is not problem free and also because I have no experience with any other machines except the ones I have or have had.
what did you replace it with?
At the moment I don't want to mention that. I am planning to make a video about it, so I'll get back.
After starting up and a few seconds at full speed, the drill turns itself off. It has to be turned off and on again, it spins and turns off again. Where is the fault? Throw it out and buy another one? The repair may be more expensive than a new one. Please advise where the problem is!_Thank you
It's very difficult to say. Maybe it's overloaded? Mabe so simple that there is something wrong with the switch? How should I know without even having seen it? Make a video and post it on TH-cam, maybe that would give us a clue.
I am sorry, I have no idea. It's not easy to diagnose the problem based on one sentence. I hope you'll find the issue.
Hello. Then which drilling machine in this price category ($250-300) would you recommend? I'm just planning to buy one.
I bought this one: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html In many ways it is much better, but it is also twice as expensive. I don't know where you live, and honestly, I can't recommend any machines, since I am not a tester and have only one.
fter starting up and a few seconds at full speed, the drill turns itself off. It has to be turned off and on again, it spins and turns off again. Where is the fault? Throw it out and buy another one? The repair may be more expensive than a new one. Please advise where the problem is!_Thank you
I am sorry, I have no idea. Perhaps you are overloading the machine, or perhaps there is something wrong with the emergency switch.
I am sorry, I have no idea. It's not easy to diagnose the problem based on one sentence. I hope you'll find the issue.
lets face it for that kinda money Bosh could at least put here brushless motor and make chuck not wobble...
You must remember that this machine is an old design, long before brushless motors were acceptably priced, like today. Nevertheless, while brushless motors have advantages, there is actually nothing wrong with the motor and the controller of the PBD 40. It has a constant speed controller which actually works very well, so if you load the machine, the motor will not slow down, which is actually great. So without that feature, a brushless motor would be worse. Brushed motors have a disadvantage in noise, but because this machine has a mechanical gear box, it is very noisy already, so having a motor with less noise would make no difference. I agree about the chuck, it's horrible and Bosch should have chosen a better one.
@@AdaptingCamera good point, BTW did you have to change brushes in 10 years period?
I do have one and the features are nice but it's far from precise. Too mach play that negate any precision to be achieved
Yes, the Bosch PBD 40 has some nice features. In the end, the total play got me to dump it and to buy this one: th-cam.com/video/5_HTjUOUsf8/w-d-xo.html In many ways, the new machine is considerably better. It is much quieter, and way more precise, but it is also much more expensive.
I stay away from green bosh, the hobby class is just an evil way from bosh company to take the customers from smaller tool makers, making junk tools simply for the fact of taking that part of the market too. They are just too greedy to make only professinal tools. The professinal class, the blue ones are good tools, i had some, abused the hell out of them and still work just fine. The green ones are trash.
You are expecting precision from a tool wich is designed to be as cheap as possible. If they were to make those tolerances really tight that would've required more care and attention, that would've increase the price and then the tool would not fit into a price category wich would bring profits to the company, again, the tool is designed to take the customers from smaller brands, simply because it has a bosh logo on it. You would probably find a much better drill press in this money from a not so famous brand.
This is the thing about big tool manufacturers, with some tools they just abuse the trust people have in their brand to sell junk.
You are wrong on many counts. This machine is excellent when you need a small and compact machine and not need the high precision. It was good enough for me also for about ten years, even though I used it mostly for metal. Nevertheless, there comes a time, if you are serious with what you are doing, when an upgrade is necessary and when you start needing more than what this machine is offering. I did not regret buying this machine and using it for so long time. You can't get a better one for this price if you consider all the features it has. ...and before you say that they just fancy, useless features, not, they are not. The features are very useful and at least I used all the features every time I used this machine.
I have to tell you that the problems you show in this video are not really relevant to a drill that costs 250 Euros, its very very good for the money, if you want a drill that you can show how it doesnt move half a millimeter with precision tools, then you better be ok to spend 1000 euros.. No Offence.. I realise you are showing its flaws, but again its under 300 euros.. What do you expect ?
No offence, but you don't know what you are talking about. Yes, the PBD 40 has some advantages, but the drill head wobbling is a real problem, which easily could have been avoided if Bosch would have used better rack and pinion parts plus added two screws and a gib to make it user adjustable. In fact, I have a fairly cheap hand drill machine stand, made by Wolfcraft www.wolfcraft.com/products/wolfcraft/en/EUR/Products/Attachments-for-Machines/Drill-Stands/Drill-Stand/p/P_5027 which has those set screws m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71-HwiPdgmL._AC_SL1500_.jpg for that specific reason, and it works well and it costs only about 120 € where I am living, even cheaper on Amazon.de, there you can get it for 100 €. So it is something Bosch should have addressed, because while this may not be a problem for you, it is a problem for me and many others and is easily fixable. Also, every half decent bench drill machine is infinitely better regarding this issue, starting around 150 €. I mean, sure, they might have other issues, but not this, and for 250 € you can definitely get better machines in Europe. Just look at Scheppach DP 19 Vario, you can get it for 200 € on Amazon, and while it is not what I bought, it would definitely beat the Bosch PBD 40 and it is easy to find even other machines at or below the price of the PBD 40, which is more like 300 € where I am living.
I think that you want a 200€ bench drill to behave as a "professional", "heavy-duty" drill...
To start with, it's a bit more where I live, almost 300 €, and for 300 € you can actually get a much better machine here and everywhere else. I am not saying this is a bad machine if you can live with the weaknesses it has, and change the chuck, but if you change the chuck and want quality you need to spend another 100 €. So you see, it is more expensive than only 200 €. But the main reason for me to get rid of this machine is the machine head wobble, which is a none-existent issue even in a 100 € tiny bench drill.