Dooku is like if a James Bond Villian was a sith lord. Which is ironic because he's played by Christopher Lee, who was the original inspiration for James Bond.
He was one of the greats. Told Jackson that was not the sound someone made when stabbed in the back. And backed it with war stories from his time as a commando in WW1. Love that man lol
Fun fact: Dooku was originally just gonna be called 'Darth Tyrranus' but he ended up with the name 'Count Dooku' because George was such a huge fan of the actor Christopher Lee and his work on the Hammer Dracula Movies so he wanted to pay Homage to Count Dracula
The sequels were the worst, but pretty much everything else that has come out of Disney's new canon is actually really good. Edit: Live action shows (aside from Mandalorian) excluded.
@@C-3POsolosinvci They have their merits. Both have sympathetic goals and aspirations, and both saw the corruption of the Republic and the stagnation of the Jedi Order. The difference is that Legends Dooku was basically a high-functioning psychopath whose only meaningful connections were Yoda and Qui-Gon, and sought to undermine the Sith after his apprentice's demise. Unfortunately for him, Sidious knew of his plans, influenced him, and corrupted him into becoming a monster. Canon Dooku, on the other hand, was a more well-adjusted person and remained more grounded as a person due to his more numerous support network. Until the moment where he just immediately fell off the deep end. They also set up Dooku's darkness earlier with Canon Dooku with his interest in the holocrons and his obsession with the Sith. That said, I generally prefer Legends Dooku over Canon, primarily because the Clone Wars (2008) mischaracterizes him (as it does with most of its established characters) and because the only meaningful additions they have made were the "Dooku: Jedi Lost" book and the "Tales of the Jedi" show. The book was definitely good, and the show was alright, but he just doesn't have enough new material to sway me. P.S. A major part of why I like Dooku in Legends more is his presence in the "Republic" comic series (which is what the 2008 cartoon tried to be) where he does make the Separatists seem appealing by actually making systems better with greater living conditions and helping the people, which leads into another big reason I like Dooku in this series. His relationship and conflict with Quinlan Vos, who is undoubtedly way fucking better in Legends. The less said of "Dark Disciple" and its poor treatment of Ventress, the better. I mean, Dave Filoni and co. never knew how to write Ventress, but that book was criminal.
42:40 The video simplifies what happened. The interaction is from the Tarkin novel, one of the best pieces of Disney Canon currently (which makes sense since the guy who wrote it also wrote Plagueis' backstory in the Plagueis novel). Tarkin understood that the Separatist Crisis isn't what it seemed and knew that someone was controlling things behind the scenes. The book says that Dooku approached Tarkin multiple times, the last time being very shortly before he went to Geonosis and thus the beginning of the war. Tarkin voices his opinion to Dooku after Dooku's sales pitch to him, after which Dooku all but confirms that Tarkin's suspicion was correct when he said that the CIS would not target Eriadu in the upcoming war and that he looked forward to working with him in the future. Tarkin was never sure what exactly went wrong with Dooku's plan, but he did *suspected that Vader was Anakin* based on their shared combat styles and also that *Palpatine may have been the Sith Lord* the Jedi had been concerned about. However, Tarkin *didn't actually care* that that was the case.
Yes, Sidious did see Qui-Gon as an obstacle to turning Anakin to the dark side due to the fact he would've taken the role of a father figure and mentor who truly could've understood and guided him. But imo the reason he *feared* him is because he was probably the only being in the galaxy that could've seen through his plans and wouldn't have fallen for it like every other jedi and the entire Republic did. He indeed wasn't afraid of Qui-Gon's skill with a lightsaber, yet he was afraid that he would be the one threat that could have foiled his plans. He feared the combination of his intelligence, independent-mindedness, stubbornness and most of all, his profound connection, understanding and trust in the Force.
Tbh people overstate how important Anakin was to Palpatine's plans. If Anakin had stayed with the Jedi, Palpatine could have ruled the Empire all the same. He just wouldn't have had his top enforcer. Things might have been a little harder, but by no means would his whole plan fall apart as a result.
Luke got rid of the 'no attachments' rule in the new jedi order which he successfully started. He got married to Mara Jade. He had a son named Ben. Loads of jedi had spouses and kids. But I guess Disney will have Rey be the one who successfully rebuilds the jedi order now.
48:56 he didn't one-shot them, HE OUTFOUGHT them. Drowsy, blinded, and jumped and he fought them into a corner and then blasted them. Dooku was one of the best duelists
One of the greatest duelists to ever live in Star Wars. Canon and Legends. So good that even though his elegant style is mainly for 1 v 1 dueling and not great in crowds or for blaster deflection, he still did both effortlessly and against many of the greatest the republic could muster against him. Beating 2 top level Jedi at the same time on a consistent basis. Dooku was on another level for his time and his lack in force ability and extreme age was what ultimately kept him in check.
@@averageinternettroll True his midichlorian count is higher than most of the council. He just happened to exist in the same era as 3 mega heavyweights in the force.
40:10 When Dooku becomes Tyrannus, he is a completely different person. All of the good will he had died with Qui Gon. The only person he still genuinely was interested in was Obi Wan Kenobi. Otherwise, ideologically speaking Tyrannus was worse than even Palpatine. Dooku was a legend, Tyrannus was a monster in Dooku's skin.
A funny little trivia: in Brazil, Dooku's name was changed to Dookan, because in Portuguese his name would sound like "Count of the asshole". No joke, look it up.
Not exactly the translation, as it is even funnier. Dooku sounds like (Dou o Cú), which literally translates to "I get fucked in the ass"/"Fuck my ass" so they had to change, else his name would be "Count Fuck my ass"
24:32 The Galactic Republic doesn't have a standing military. There is no protection for member worlds. They have to either join defensive coalitions, do deals with one of the big mega corporations or have their own defence force. All local defence forces have to comply with Republic laws on weapon systems to prevent them from having too powerful of ships, but most worlds, even ones that were economically doing well like Naboo, would only have a few starfighter squadrons. The megacorporations were allowed to fit their large hauler craft with military grade weapons and security droids due to the threats of piracy and terrorism. This gave them a huge advantage.
Christopher Lee played such a great role as Count Dooku it's almost criminal, and I wish we got more of it in the movies plus he was played awesomely in clone wars
Nux is correct about why Sidious feared Qui Gon, hence why the song during the battle of episode 1 is called Duel of the Fates, cause it is the battle that decides the fate of Anakin.
Count Dooku is one of my favorites, ever since I was a little girl. I could always appreciate his character and the tactics he used, especially in Clone Wars.
As badass as Dooku was, Christopher Lee, the actor who played him was exponentially more badass. He was a direct descendant of Charlemagne. He was an OSS agent and hunted nazis during and after the war. He was one of the inspirations for James Bond. He Played countless legendary characters including Dooku, Dracula, Saruman, and Scaramanga to name a few. He was the oldest recorded heavy metal vocalist.
47:49 The rule of two. There can only be two siths, and if one of their aprentices becomes too powerful, tends to end in one of them dead. Also, if I recall correctly, Dooku had plans to use Asajj Ventress to kill Palpatine and become the next sith, and Ventress his aprentice, and then Palpatine realized that, and forced Dooku to get rid of his trump card against the sith. So, it was an "either kill Ventress or show that you are no longer loyal to me" type of deal. But Asajj was quite loyal to Dooku until that betrayal.
Dooku does have sith eyes, we see them when he's trained savage, he simply hides them. But the reason he's not deformed in any way is due to 2 things. #1 his goal was never to obtain power or strength but to bring down the corruption within the jedi and Republic. #2 being that he was one of if not the greatest lightsaber duelist of his era (on par with yoda who had 900 years of experience) dooku never relayed on the force as often as he did with his lightsaber.
1:02:27 To be fair to Anakin he wasn't going to originally kill Dooku and would have more than likely captured him if it wasn't for the fact that his father figure (the evil dark lord of the Sith that had been grooming him for years) HEAVILY "encouraged" him to do it multiple times despite Anakin initially not wanting to. That other guy on the other hand didn't have a devil over his literal shoulder telling him to kill Dooku so it was MUCH easier for him to decide not to end his life.
Lucas described the Dark Side as Corruption and the easy path. He called the Force enlightenment and a challenge. The Force is far more powerful but it is harder and much more rewarding because of it.
Fun fact: in the novelization of episode 3, Dooku and Sideous had actually planned on Dooku intentionally throwing his fight with Anikin and Obi-Wan and being taken prisoner. When Sideous told Anikin to "Dew it." His shock was because his master had betrayed him like he had done to his own apprentices.
It wasn't necessarily that he was going to throw the fight, he was just going to find an opportunity to lose gracefully. If Anakin would have genuinely lost to Dooku in any of their duels, he wouldn't have been worthy of making into a Sith so all their battles were legit.
The Revenge of the Sith novelization added two very fun details involving Count Dooku. Firstly, it revealed that he can see peoples' "auras". Obi-Wan's aura was like a peaceful meadow, Anakin's was like a raging storm, and Palpatine's was a void that sucked in everything like the event horizon of a black hole. Secondly, the brief meaningful glance Dooku gave when Palpatine urged Anakin to kill him was expanded upon. To quote: "And he knows, then, that all has indeed been going according to plan. Sidious’s plan, not his own. This had been a Jedi trap indeed, but Jedi were not the quarry. They were the bait As he looks up into the eyes of Anakin Skywalker for the final time, Count Dooku knows that he has been deceived not just today, but for many, many years. That he has never been the true apprentice. That he has never been the heir to the power of the Sith. He has been only a tool. His whole life-all his victories, all his struggles, all his heritage, all his principles and his sacrifices, everything he’s done, everything he owns, everything he’s been, all his dreams and grand vision for the future Empire and the Army of Sith-have been only a pathetic sham, because all of them, all of him, add up only to this. He has existed only for this. This. To be the victim of Anakin Skywalker’s first cold-blooded murder. First but not, he knows, the last. Then the blades crossed at his throat uncross like scissors. Snip. And all of him becomes nothing at all."
I love that a lot of what nux is criticizing about the jedi order up to its destruction at order 66 is exactly the point that most of what was built throughout the years since the prequels came out have expanded on in that while the jedi order at its core is a force for good it's strict adherence to and unwillingness to compromise their code often led to the rise of the very thing they're sworn to prevent. Revan, Malik, Dooku, and even Exar Kun are all examples of jedi who fell to the dark side ultimately because of the complicated times they lived in and how the code could only guide them so much before they would ultimately have to come to their own conclusions and make their own decisions sadly in those cases not for the betterment of the galaxy at large
Yes but I also feel like these videos are giving him a bit of a wrong idea of the Jedi, they are flawed but they do care a lot, watching mostly sith videos gives him a skewed view and he does not understand Jedi very well. Thor Skywalker makes good videos explaining the Jedi and debunking some of the dumb hate they get, he points out their flaws yet debunks a lot of the misconceptions too.
Indeed, I am tempted to suggest the Philosophy of Kreia because of that. That delves deep into the issues of both the Jedi and the Sith. But I don't think it is time yet. Nux still needs more insight into Star Wars as a whole before we open that can of worms.
@@LuBronyr Got any other good ideas on videos that explains the Jedi well and shows the good in them yet their flaws? Cuz he is getting too much of a negative side to them and getting a few wrong ideas from chat cuz they are ignorant.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls I mean, Philosophy of Kreia is kinda like that. It does explore the failings of the Jedi but also just how messed up the Sith are. Ironically, it ends up on how significant OG Legends Luke is because of his actions and the New Jedi Order. In fact, that's a great example of Jedi being good. The Legends Luke Skywalker, you know, the REAL Luke Skywalker? Hey, how about his homie Kyle Katarn, another great example. Or if you want to go into the Old Republic Era, Jolee Bindo and his stories. Very wholesome and fun Jedi stuff. Oh and also, Thor Skywalker's video on the lies and misconceptions about the Jedi is very good, too, so that's a good recommend.
@@LuBronyr Yeah I just want to make sure Nux does not get the misrepresentation of Jedi too much cuz they are the good guys in general but not all Jedi are good, and they are not perfect yet they deserve some respect. Yeah I agree with you. It’s a good video for him to watch. Yeah Thor Skywalker is one of the main channels I watch nowadays cuz of how knowledgeable and fair he is, Gen tech makes some good videos but they’ve gotten a bit positively toxic and have bad takes on the Acolyte tbh, they don’t understand the criticisms and lump us in with the haters imo.
Asajj Ventriss's death was detailed in a comic book endorsed and published by Disney and for years that was her official end, right up until Disney realized they could milk her nostalgia even more and put her in the latest season of The Bad Batch. Inconsistencies like these is what makes trying to keep track of moden SW lore so irritating.
Nux thank you so much for doing these lore deep dives I work from 6:00 in the morning till 4:00 in the afternoon as an industrial painter and these videos have helped me get through those long days so thank you, dooku is honestly my favourite character in Star wars
Instead of attending Qui-Gon's funeral he confronted Sidious, unknowingly tracked by Master Yaddle to his and Sidious' meeting place, as a test of loyalty he was tasked with killing her.
Not all of Disney canon is bad, he should check out the Darth Maul shit for sure, the night sisters and Ventress, some more clone wars and rebels shit tbh But mostly stick to legends ofc
I love how you love all the lore I love. You are obviously a man with great taste! Funny tidbit. He left the Jedi Order to find his "Own Path", & his former padawan Qui-Gon Jinn refused a seat on the Jedi Council to find his "Own Path". Turns out that both their "Own Paths" were just ways of helping The Sith in the end...
Not really. Qui-gon's path was to fallow the will of the force no matter what. Had he had taken a seat on the council he for the most part if not entirely been over ruled.
@@ragingrat7670 Yeah I see your point there & it's right. I guess my points just more broad on how they both saw the flaws in the methods of Jedi & choose to disobey their rule & go on their "Own Paths" of solving things. Qui-Gon did choose to connect with The Force more directly (The Force is a sentient thing) rather than interpret it's will through set rules. Dooku saw the flaws in the Republic & the way it was ruled as a whole & wanted to forcefully impose a different order to rule, because to him Jedi weren't just Peace Keepers they also controlled the Galaxy. I also agree that The Jedi did rule the Galaxy & attacking Palpatine was Treason. If a Sith is legally rallying votes to rule over The Republic, you can't just try to assassinated him right before he goes into office...(sound familiar?)
In the beginning of this video, he said not including legends material, which is George Lucas Old work not Disney’s also he said that he was only going to implement the newest canon not the old so it is somewhat count, Dooku but it’s not his legends version
2:34 I would’ve enjoyed this intro to the lore dive, but all I could think of was the fact that the same backdrop music was used in “Shrek is Love, Shrek is Life; Part 3”
Nux saying they shoulda just listened to the visions, someone send him a video about that one jedi schism that happened because a bunch of masters saw some visions then tried to pull the Anakin special on some padawans
The Dooku people like that is not fully Sith is only in Legends/the old EU. Canon Dooku is legit evil. Edit: I realize I worded this badly. What I mean is Dooku's evil is more detailed and we get more info on what he wanted all the way up to his death in Legends. We also learn about how he was almost brought back to the light during the war.
You clearly didn't watch Tales of The Jedi or you'd know that isn't true. Why it's true that he did become truly evil he started out with noble intentions.
He's alwais been evil, even in old canon. Regardless of what you want to achive, starting a "world war" and advocating for a genocide makes you evil. Or are you trying to say that Hitler too was actually a good person becouse he just wanted Germany to prosper? The moment that horrible means become justified by the ends, one can no longer be considered morally upright.
@@AristasTheMonsterHunter That's fair. I guess what I meant was Dooku not falling conpletely and having that pull to the light, plus his plans for the galaxy, are only in Legends. I think that is mroe interesting to Nux
That is half the reason Sheevy feared Qui yes; however the other reason is thay Qui Gon was unable to be blinded by the dark side, like the rest of the order was. Qui Gon was much too pure, too real, and honestly much too based. Sheev feared that he was the one Jedi that could see through his deceptions, and prevent his plan from succeeding.
You need to see a full breakdown on Anakin/Vader’s character. he is, in my opinion, the best and most complex character in star wars. Very fucking sad too
@@ragingrat7670 that’s fair enough, i mostly meant like emotionally complex, but then again i am not well versed in old republic material. Only just recently getting into kotor and swtor
Before turning fully sith one of his best colleagues found out he was talking with sidious and dooku had to kill her and that’s one of the reasons he turned to the dark side
Nux sitting there baffled Palpatine could force choke dooku through a hologram when we saw Vader in empire strikes back force choke someone through a tv
17:50 this is what the OT was about. Luke's belief in and love for his friends and family is what ends up saving the galaxy. Palpatine expected a man like Yoda, but he never prepared for a wild card like Luke.
The old jedi order believed that all attachments are evil and bad and lead to the dark side because emotions are evil, unlike Legends Jedi Grandmaster Luke's new jedi order, which encouraged familial attachments, as such things helped strengthen the jedi and their connection to the force, as long as you didn't let your emotions control you. Edit: While Dooku making an offshoot order would've been interesting, I think it's been stated before (at least in Legends) that the Jedi viewed all non-Jedi Order "Jedi" as basically equivalent to the Sith. Either you're with the Jedi Order, or your against them. I could be misremembering something, though
The next SW Lore dive Nux should do is Maul. Not only because it’s cool, but I want him to watch Maul - Hatred by Darth Porg immediately afterwards. It’s such an amazing edit to go with the score.
Haven’t watched Star Wars Theory in years but doesn’t surprise me that he’s in a lawsuit. Dude seemed to be doing a lot of grand standing when I last watched.
One of my favorite Dooku moments is from the Episode 3 Novelization. He's disgusted by Anakin's mechanical arm and remarks to Sidious "A true gentleman would have learned to fight one handed."
It's crazy how so many people didn't learn the lesson StarWars is trying to teach. Don't be an A hole, think for yourself dont just go with the flow of everyone around you, use your heart but don't be ruled by it, and try to do better for the next generation but don't ruin their childhood. Very simple but so many people couldn't understand the second layer behind good vs bad, bad is maybe not always bad and good isn't always good
Dooku being a master of lightsaber combat even comes out in his choreography, like in Ep 3 when he fights Anakin and Obi Wan if you oay attention he forces them out of their comfort zones by making Obi Wan go on the offensive and chase him down while also forcing Anakin to go on the defensive
There are offshoots of the Jedis, like the Imperial Knights of the Fel Empire also known as Imperial Jedi , founded by Empress Jaina Solo daughter of Princess Leila. They are Grey Jedis who use the Force as a tool and train in how not to fall to the Dark Side. It was their duty to prevent the Emperor from falling to the Dark Side and kill him if he fel.
21:30 Im pretty sure that this is "somewhat official" interpretation used also by Dave Filoni You can see it as part of interwiev if you type in YT search: Star Wars: Duel of the Fates Explanation by Dave Filoni
A lot of people echo that sentiment about Qui-Gon. Sure, Obi-Wan “won” by defeating Maul, but not really. They won the fight but lost the war. After Qui-Gon died, they were doomed.
One of the reason the Republic had to choose their battle is because they didn't have an army before the Clone War. They had a Judicial force(just enough to be police) & the Jedi to assist defend each planet *defend themselves* . Basically the Republic on their own(without the local planet's support) can handle at max: medium griminal organizations or a couple of rebellious planets.... *NOT* big criminal Empire like the Huts, or something like the C.I.S
To be fair sidious was not afraid of ventress alone , he was suspicious that if she reached her full potential then the combined might of her and dooku could be a real problem.
Sidious ordered Dooku to kill Ventress because Sidious had a secret apprentice that he planned to use to kill Plagius, Maul. So Sidious wanted her gone so Dooku doesn't 2v1 Sidious once the war is over. By having Dooku try to kill Ventress, the two would be at each other's throats than at Sidious.
18:08 Yes, priests can still maintain relationships with their families. I have a relative that is a Franciscan friar and he is very much allowed to visit his mother, siblings, etc. He just can’t have a wife and kids because he is “married to the Church”. Also, being Franciscan means he can’t really own a lot of material property as he’s also taken a vow of poverty
You know what Nux, if you haven't seen it, I want you to react to the Hogfather. So much blindingly funny stuff just to immediately make you cry out of sentiment and then be touched by the lesson at the end. Everyone wants you to react to terrifying SCPs that rip your soul, I suggest something that will heal it.
@Nuxanor Dooku is not only considered to be the greatest lightsaber duelist of his generation but he is also recognized as one of the greatest lightsaber duelist in the history of the jedi order.
Tulak hord, the sith lord of hate. The sith lord that united all other sith to fight for him through fear and respect.conquered all other sith planets with sith magic and near impossible to beat in a saber fight. (Star wars legends)
Rule of 2. Dooku was allowed a sith assassin. Same with palpatine, how he was allowed to have maul. But if the assassin became too strong, the apprentice and their assassin/apprentice could team up to form the next sith and apprentice duo. So as the Sith Lord. Eliminating the assassin before they become too strong. Ensures his rule as the Sith Lord
Dooku is like if a James Bond Villian was a sith lord. Which is ironic because he's played by Christopher Lee, who was the original inspiration for James Bond.
and played a bond villain lol
Francisco Scaramanga iirc
1of 3 inspirations for bond
I fucking love christopher lee, wasnt he the inspiration for black sabath, the band that started my favourite music genre
R.I.P. the goat o7
@@captainleonox3818the man with the golden gun
*R.I.P. Sir Christopher Lee. World’s Coolest Horror Actor and Fellow Metal Head* 🤘
Man, his performance killed it in Magic of the Wizards Dream, didn't it? o7 and F, but fr fr.
He was one of the greats. Told Jackson that was not the sound someone made when stabbed in the back. And backed it with war stories from his time as a commando in WW1. Love that man lol
Fun fact: Dooku was originally just gonna be called 'Darth Tyrranus' but he ended up with the name 'Count Dooku' because George was such a huge fan of the actor Christopher Lee and his work on the Hammer Dracula Movies so he wanted to pay Homage to Count Dracula
RIP forever Greatest Count! I wanna make it my headcannon, that because Christopher Lee played Dooku, that Count Dooku was a Vampire Jedi lol
Now THAT’S respect!
@@theLOSTranger234Well the Galaxy is a big place with some very unique species out there
I like that basically all of us have the same feeling when we hear "No Legends Canon"
I like the new Disney Canon Dooku Lore more than the legends Version
The sequels were the worst, but pretty much everything else that has come out of Disney's new canon is actually really good.
Edit: Live action shows (aside from Mandalorian) excluded.
Canon Dooku is better than Legends dooku
@@C-3POsolosinvci They have their merits. Both have sympathetic goals and aspirations, and both saw the corruption of the Republic and the stagnation of the Jedi Order. The difference is that Legends Dooku was basically a high-functioning psychopath whose only meaningful connections were Yoda and Qui-Gon, and sought to undermine the Sith after his apprentice's demise. Unfortunately for him, Sidious knew of his plans, influenced him, and corrupted him into becoming a monster. Canon Dooku, on the other hand, was a more well-adjusted person and remained more grounded as a person due to his more numerous support network. Until the moment where he just immediately fell off the deep end. They also set up Dooku's darkness earlier with Canon Dooku with his interest in the holocrons and his obsession with the Sith.
That said, I generally prefer Legends Dooku over Canon, primarily because the Clone Wars (2008) mischaracterizes him (as it does with most of its established characters) and because the only meaningful additions they have made were the "Dooku: Jedi Lost" book and the "Tales of the Jedi" show. The book was definitely good, and the show was alright, but he just doesn't have enough new material to sway me.
P.S. A major part of why I like Dooku in Legends more is his presence in the "Republic" comic series (which is what the 2008 cartoon tried to be) where he does make the Separatists seem appealing by actually making systems better with greater living conditions and helping the people, which leads into another big reason I like Dooku in this series. His relationship and conflict with Quinlan Vos, who is undoubtedly way fucking better in Legends. The less said of "Dark Disciple" and its poor treatment of Ventress, the better. I mean, Dave Filoni and co. never knew how to write Ventress, but that book was criminal.
42:40 The video simplifies what happened. The interaction is from the Tarkin novel, one of the best pieces of Disney Canon currently (which makes sense since the guy who wrote it also wrote Plagueis' backstory in the Plagueis novel). Tarkin understood that the Separatist Crisis isn't what it seemed and knew that someone was controlling things behind the scenes.
The book says that Dooku approached Tarkin multiple times, the last time being very shortly before he went to Geonosis and thus the beginning of the war. Tarkin voices his opinion to Dooku after Dooku's sales pitch to him, after which Dooku all but confirms that Tarkin's suspicion was correct when he said that the CIS would not target Eriadu in the upcoming war and that he looked forward to working with him in the future.
Tarkin was never sure what exactly went wrong with Dooku's plan, but he did *suspected that Vader was Anakin* based on their shared combat styles and also that *Palpatine may have been the Sith Lord* the Jedi had been concerned about. However, Tarkin *didn't actually care* that that was the case.
Yes, Sidious did see Qui-Gon as an obstacle to turning Anakin to the dark side due to the fact he would've taken the role of a father figure and mentor who truly could've understood and guided him. But imo the reason he *feared* him is because he was probably the only being in the galaxy that could've seen through his plans and wouldn't have fallen for it like every other jedi and the entire Republic did. He indeed wasn't afraid of Qui-Gon's skill with a lightsaber, yet he was afraid that he would be the one threat that could have foiled his plans. He feared the combination of his intelligence, independent-mindedness, stubbornness and most of all, his profound connection, understanding and trust in the Force.
Qui-Gon’s Gray Jedi ideals were his greatest strengths imo
@@MarcSamuels562 Qui-Gon is not a gray Jedi
@@theazurefire91 He had, however, the "healthiest" outlook and connection to the force, imo.
@@anasmouada9538 True, but that was because he was an authentic Jedi Knight.
Tbh people overstate how important Anakin was to Palpatine's plans. If Anakin had stayed with the Jedi, Palpatine could have ruled the Empire all the same. He just wouldn't have had his top enforcer. Things might have been a little harder, but by no means would his whole plan fall apart as a result.
The most important lesson I’ve learned from Star Wars is never trust a politician.
Sadly ironic how real that lesson is
@kira17801 The most important lesson I learned is that kids need their dads. The one about not trusting politicians is a pretty good one too.
Unless they're a female who wears a lot of white.
Obiwan always knew this lol
3:21 "NO Legends cannon?! boo !"
Based Nux.
Luke got rid of the 'no attachments' rule in the new jedi order which he successfully started. He got married to Mara Jade. He had a son named Ben. Loads of jedi had spouses and kids. But I guess Disney will have Rey be the one who successfully rebuilds the jedi order now.
Successfully rebuilt the Jedi order…. After his first apprentice destroyed an inhabited star system.
What Disney does doesn't matter. It's not canon.
@@ClarkKempt
Legends > Disney cannon
48:56 he didn't one-shot them, HE OUTFOUGHT them. Drowsy, blinded, and jumped and he fought them into a corner and then blasted them. Dooku was one of the best duelists
"If you diddle with the dark side the dark side diddles you back"
-Darth (prewatch) Nuxanor
One of the greatest duelists to ever live in Star Wars. Canon and Legends. So good that even though his elegant style is mainly for 1 v 1 dueling and not great in crowds or for blaster deflection, he still did both effortlessly and against many of the greatest the republic could muster against him. Beating 2 top level Jedi at the same time on a consistent basis. Dooku was on another level for his time and his lack in force ability and extreme age was what ultimately kept him in check.
He didn't even lack in force ability, he was just below anakin sidious and yoda
@@averageinternettroll True his midichlorian count is higher than most of the council. He just happened to exist in the same era as 3 mega heavyweights in the force.
40:10 When Dooku becomes Tyrannus, he is a completely different person. All of the good will he had died with Qui Gon. The only person he still genuinely was interested in was Obi Wan Kenobi. Otherwise, ideologically speaking Tyrannus was worse than even Palpatine. Dooku was a legend, Tyrannus was a monster in Dooku's skin.
A funny little trivia: in Brazil, Dooku's name was changed to Dookan, because in Portuguese his name would sound like "Count of the asshole". No joke, look it up.
I love when shit like this happens lol
@@ClarkKempt you mean "I love when sith like this happens" XD
@@pelaajajm5698And i love when conversations like this happen.
Not exactly the translation, as it is even funnier.
Dooku sounds like (Dou o Cú), which literally translates to "I get fucked in the ass"/"Fuck my ass"
so they had to change, else his name would be "Count Fuck my ass"
Imagine if Sifo-Dyas showed up in the movies, since his name literally means "go fuck yourself" in Portuguese
Us: Watch Sidius vs Maul and Savage.
Nux: I have not watched Sidius vs Maul and Savage.
Sidius: Do it.
dude, please check out the Legends Lore of Dooku. it almost Night and Day. also gives a hint of where he got the Light Sabers he gave to Ventress.
24:32 The Galactic Republic doesn't have a standing military. There is no protection for member worlds. They have to either join defensive coalitions, do deals with one of the big mega corporations or have their own defence force. All local defence forces have to comply with Republic laws on weapon systems to prevent them from having too powerful of ships, but most worlds, even ones that were economically doing well like Naboo, would only have a few starfighter squadrons. The megacorporations were allowed to fit their large hauler craft with military grade weapons and security droids due to the threats of piracy and terrorism. This gave them a huge advantage.
What makes Dooku different from most fallen Jedi is that his turn was based on apathy rather than malice.
Christopher Lee played such a great role as Count Dooku it's almost criminal, and I wish we got more of it in the movies plus he was played awesomely in clone wars
Nux is correct about why Sidious feared Qui Gon, hence why the song during the battle of episode 1 is called Duel of the Fates, cause it is the battle that decides the fate of Anakin.
Ventress has a chronic problem of her lightsaber grip being too weak to resist them being taken.
Well also she gets bullied by stronger people like Yoda and Dooku who can easily just take it due to the strength difference.
Count Dooku is one of my favorites, ever since I was a little girl. I could always appreciate his character and the tactics he used, especially in Clone Wars.
As badass as Dooku was, Christopher Lee, the actor who played him was exponentially more badass.
He was a direct descendant of Charlemagne.
He was an OSS agent and hunted nazis during and after the war.
He was one of the inspirations for James Bond.
He Played countless legendary characters including Dooku, Dracula, Saruman, and Scaramanga to name a few.
He was the oldest recorded heavy metal vocalist.
He was also in The Stupids.
47:49 The rule of two. There can only be two siths, and if one of their aprentices becomes too powerful, tends to end in one of them dead. Also, if I recall correctly, Dooku had plans to use Asajj Ventress to kill Palpatine and become the next sith, and Ventress his aprentice, and then Palpatine realized that, and forced Dooku to get rid of his trump card against the sith. So, it was an "either kill Ventress or show that you are no longer loyal to me" type of deal. But Asajj was quite loyal to Dooku until that betrayal.
Dooku does have sith eyes, we see them when he's trained savage, he simply hides them. But the reason he's not deformed in any way is due to 2 things. #1 his goal was never to obtain power or strength but to bring down the corruption within the jedi and Republic. #2 being that he was one of if not the greatest lightsaber duelist of his era (on par with yoda who had 900 years of experience) dooku never relayed on the force as often as he did with his lightsaber.
1:02:27
To be fair to Anakin he wasn't going to originally kill Dooku and would have more than likely captured him if it wasn't for the fact that his father figure (the evil dark lord of the Sith that had been grooming him for years) HEAVILY "encouraged" him to do it multiple times despite Anakin initially not wanting to. That other guy on the other hand didn't have a devil over his literal shoulder telling him to kill Dooku so it was MUCH easier for him to decide not to end his life.
Lucas described the Dark Side as Corruption and the easy path. He called the Force enlightenment and a challenge. The Force is far more powerful but it is harder and much more rewarding because of it.
Fun fact: in the novelization of episode 3, Dooku and Sideous had actually planned on Dooku intentionally throwing his fight with Anikin and Obi-Wan and being taken prisoner. When Sideous told Anikin to "Dew it." His shock was because his master had betrayed him like he had done to his own apprentices.
It wasn't necessarily that he was going to throw the fight, he was just going to find an opportunity to lose gracefully. If Anakin would have genuinely lost to Dooku in any of their duels, he wouldn't have been worthy of making into a Sith so all their battles were legit.
The Revenge of the Sith novelization added two very fun details involving Count Dooku. Firstly, it revealed that he can see peoples' "auras". Obi-Wan's aura was like a peaceful meadow, Anakin's was like a raging storm, and Palpatine's was a void that sucked in everything like the event horizon of a black hole.
Secondly, the brief meaningful glance Dooku gave when Palpatine urged Anakin to kill him was expanded upon. To quote:
"And he knows, then, that all has indeed been going according to plan. Sidious’s plan, not his own. This had been a Jedi trap indeed, but Jedi were not the quarry. They were the bait
As he looks up into the eyes of Anakin Skywalker for the final time, Count Dooku knows that he has been deceived not just today, but for many, many years. That he has never been the true apprentice. That he has never been the heir to the power of the Sith. He has been only a tool.
His whole life-all his victories, all his struggles, all his heritage, all his principles and his sacrifices, everything he’s done, everything he owns, everything he’s been, all his dreams and grand vision for the future Empire and the Army of Sith-have been only a pathetic sham, because all of them, all of him, add up only to this.
He has existed only for this. This.
To be the victim of Anakin Skywalker’s first cold-blooded murder.
First but not, he knows, the last.
Then the blades crossed at his throat uncross like scissors.
Snip.
And all of him becomes nothing at all."
I love that a lot of what nux is criticizing about the jedi order up to its destruction at order 66 is exactly the point that most of what was built throughout the years since the prequels came out have expanded on in that while the jedi order at its core is a force for good it's strict adherence to and unwillingness to compromise their code often led to the rise of the very thing they're sworn to prevent. Revan, Malik, Dooku, and even Exar Kun are all examples of jedi who fell to the dark side ultimately because of the complicated times they lived in and how the code could only guide them so much before they would ultimately have to come to their own conclusions and make their own decisions sadly in those cases not for the betterment of the galaxy at large
Yes but I also feel like these videos are giving him a bit of a wrong idea of the Jedi, they are flawed but they do care a lot, watching mostly sith videos gives him a skewed view and he does not understand Jedi very well.
Thor Skywalker makes good videos explaining the Jedi and debunking some of the dumb hate they get, he points out their flaws yet debunks a lot of the misconceptions too.
Indeed, I am tempted to suggest the Philosophy of Kreia because of that. That delves deep into the issues of both the Jedi and the Sith. But I don't think it is time yet. Nux still needs more insight into Star Wars as a whole before we open that can of worms.
@@LuBronyr Got any other good ideas on videos that explains the Jedi well and shows the good in them yet their flaws? Cuz he is getting too much of a negative side to them and getting a few wrong ideas from chat cuz they are ignorant.
@@LeaderOfTheLostSouls I mean, Philosophy of Kreia is kinda like that. It does explore the failings of the Jedi but also just how messed up the Sith are. Ironically, it ends up on how significant OG Legends Luke is because of his actions and the New Jedi Order. In fact, that's a great example of Jedi being good. The Legends Luke Skywalker, you know, the REAL Luke Skywalker? Hey, how about his homie Kyle Katarn, another great example. Or if you want to go into the Old Republic Era, Jolee Bindo and his stories. Very wholesome and fun Jedi stuff.
Oh and also, Thor Skywalker's video on the lies and misconceptions about the Jedi is very good, too, so that's a good recommend.
@@LuBronyr Yeah I just want to make sure Nux does not get the misrepresentation of Jedi too much cuz they are the good guys in general but not all Jedi are good, and they are not perfect yet they deserve some respect.
Yeah I agree with you. It’s a good video for him to watch.
Yeah Thor Skywalker is one of the main channels I watch nowadays cuz of how knowledgeable and fair he is, Gen tech makes some good videos but they’ve gotten a bit positively toxic and have bad takes on the Acolyte tbh, they don’t understand the criticisms and lump us in with the haters imo.
I recommend checking out Jacen Solo from Legends. He is very clearly the inspiration for Kylo Ren but disney did everything wrong.
Dooku is probably my favorite character in star wars and I'm happy that you did lore dive to his lore❤
Asajj Ventriss's death was detailed in a comic book endorsed and published by Disney and for years that was her official end, right up until Disney realized they could milk her nostalgia even more and put her in the latest season of The Bad Batch.
Inconsistencies like these is what makes trying to keep track of moden SW lore so irritating.
Nux thank you so much for doing these lore deep dives I work from 6:00 in the morning till 4:00 in the afternoon as an industrial painter and these videos have helped me get through those long days so thank you, dooku is honestly my favourite character in Star wars
"You should never expect a politician to have empathy" Nux - 2024
Forgetting that both Riyo Chuchi & Padme Amidala both exist in that universe 😊
Bail Organa, Onaconda Farr
@@Punkmonkera _worthwhile_ politician, then, you pedantic kark!
And Leia.
Instead of attending Qui-Gon's funeral he confronted Sidious, unknowingly tracked by Master Yaddle to his and Sidious' meeting place, as a test of loyalty he was tasked with killing her.
The Disney Dooku is cringe they made him racist for no reason.
Nux you should check out Legends Lore over Disney lore imo.
Exactly.
Not all of Disney canon is bad, he should check out the Darth Maul shit for sure, the night sisters and Ventress, some more clone wars and rebels shit tbh
But mostly stick to legends ofc
That was literally canon from the very beginning. It was in the ROTS novelization.
I love how you love all the lore I love. You are obviously a man with great taste!
Funny tidbit. He left the Jedi Order to find his "Own Path", & his former padawan Qui-Gon Jinn refused a seat on the Jedi Council to find his "Own Path".
Turns out that both their "Own Paths" were just ways of helping The Sith in the end...
Not really. Qui-gon's path was to fallow the will of the force no matter what. Had he had taken a seat on the council he for the most part if not entirely been over ruled.
@@ragingrat7670 Yeah I see your point there & it's right.
I guess my points just more broad on how they both saw the flaws in the methods of Jedi & choose to disobey their rule & go on their "Own Paths" of solving things.
Qui-Gon did choose to connect with The Force more directly (The Force is a sentient thing) rather than interpret it's will through set rules.
Dooku saw the flaws in the Republic & the way it was ruled as a whole & wanted to forcefully impose a different order to rule, because to him Jedi weren't just Peace Keepers they also controlled the Galaxy. I also agree that The Jedi did rule the Galaxy & attacking Palpatine was Treason.
If a Sith is legally rallying votes to rule over The Republic, you can't just try to assassinated him right before he goes into office...(sound familiar?)
In the beginning of this video, he said not including legends material, which is George Lucas Old work not Disney’s also he said that he was only going to implement the newest canon not the old so it is somewhat count, Dooku but it’s not his legends version
2:34 I would’ve enjoyed this intro to the lore dive, but all I could think of was the fact that the same backdrop music was used in “Shrek is Love, Shrek is Life; Part 3”
Boss you admitting to prewatching boss. We trusted you boss.
Jedi:Survivor lets you use the same lightsaber techniques as Dooku with a pistol sidearm
Dooku tried to make Grievous force sensitive, using a blood transfusion, with Syfo Diaz
Just wait until Nux learns of Star Wars own Tryanid like faction the Yuuzhan Vong.
More like an upside down Genestealer-Nid dynamic with a side of SCP, but... yeah...
Best thing about that saruman comment Christopher Lee played both Dooku and Saruman
Nux saying they shoulda just listened to the visions, someone send him a video about that one jedi schism that happened because a bunch of masters saw some visions then tried to pull the Anakin special on some padawans
Stupendous wave is probably the best person to get lore and timeline stuff from
The Dooku people like that is not fully Sith is only in Legends/the old EU. Canon Dooku is legit evil.
Edit: I realize I worded this badly. What I mean is Dooku's evil is more detailed and we get more info on what he wanted all the way up to his death in Legends. We also learn about how he was almost brought back to the light during the war.
Dis canon
Disney canon is ass, BUT Legends is also super fucking inconsistent. Dooku is more interesting as becoming evil.
You clearly didn't watch Tales of The Jedi or you'd know that isn't true. Why it's true that he did become truly evil he started out with noble intentions.
He's alwais been evil, even in old canon. Regardless of what you want to achive, starting a "world war" and advocating for a genocide makes you evil. Or are you trying to say that Hitler too was actually a good person becouse he just wanted Germany to prosper? The moment that horrible means become justified by the ends, one can no longer be considered morally upright.
@@AristasTheMonsterHunter That's fair. I guess what I meant was Dooku not falling conpletely and having that pull to the light, plus his plans for the galaxy, are only in Legends. I think that is mroe interesting to Nux
I think this is the earliest I have caught a nux video. And it’s one I’ve been looking forward to for a while.
Picking canon Dooku over Legends Bane is crazy lmao
Both can body just about anybody though in a pure duel during their prime.
@@malmasterson3890 yeah probably. But imo Bane has a more interesting story :p
book 2 is a bit of a snooze but 1 and 3 are so good.
Umm, excuse _tf_ out of _you? Disney_ Dooku, fyvm...
I swear I'm gonna have to start doing the "X days of requesting Delta Squad lore" huh? I can't help it! These badasses deserve respect
There's actually a lightsaber fighting style widely used by the Jedi that focuses on cutting off hands. That explains all the chopped of hands.
“The Mace window treatment, throwing them out the Windu!”🤣🤣🤣
Can't wait for nux to do the Christopher Lee lore, bro has the coolest life story
That is half the reason Sheevy feared Qui yes; however the other reason is thay Qui Gon was unable to be blinded by the dark side, like the rest of the order was. Qui Gon was much too pure, too real, and honestly much too based. Sheev feared that he was the one Jedi that could see through his deceptions, and prevent his plan from succeeding.
37:22 Why is he so good at imitating 😂
“Why did it skip to 18 minutes”
OOOOH so that’s how he beats the prewatch allegations.
You need to see a full breakdown on Anakin/Vader’s character. he is, in my opinion, the best and most complex character in star wars. Very fucking sad too
I agree as far as the films and the tv series goes but I think others are when you include books, games, and other sources (not disney).
@@ragingrat7670 that’s fair enough, i mostly meant like emotionally complex, but then again i am not well versed in old republic material. Only just recently getting into kotor and swtor
Before turning fully sith one of his best colleagues found out he was talking with sidious and dooku had to kill her and that’s one of the reasons he turned to the dark side
Count Dooku is one of the coolest characters in all of Star Wars, and by far the most Superior looking 👀.
Nux sitting there baffled Palpatine could force choke dooku through a hologram when we saw Vader in empire strikes back force choke someone through a tv
17:50 this is what the OT was about. Luke's belief in and love for his friends and family is what ends up saving the galaxy. Palpatine expected a man like Yoda, but he never prepared for a wild card like Luke.
Christopher Lee played a great villain especially as count dooku in my opinion.
The old jedi order believed that all attachments are evil and bad and lead to the dark side because emotions are evil, unlike Legends Jedi Grandmaster Luke's new jedi order, which encouraged familial attachments, as such things helped strengthen the jedi and their connection to the force, as long as you didn't let your emotions control you.
Edit: While Dooku making an offshoot order would've been interesting, I think it's been stated before (at least in Legends) that the Jedi viewed all non-Jedi Order "Jedi" as basically equivalent to the Sith. Either you're with the Jedi Order, or your against them. I could be misremembering something, though
The next SW Lore dive Nux should do is Maul. Not only because it’s cool, but I want him to watch Maul - Hatred by Darth Porg immediately afterwards. It’s such an amazing edit to go with the score.
Haven’t watched Star Wars Theory in years but doesn’t surprise me that he’s in a lawsuit. Dude seemed to be doing a lot of grand standing when I last watched.
Ty nux you make Star Wars lore better
There is a comic series on how Dooku and a bunch of Jedi fought Jango Fett and that is how he knew of Jango and how skilled he is.
One of my favorite Dooku moments is from the Episode 3 Novelization. He's disgusted by Anakin's mechanical arm and remarks to Sidious "A true gentleman would have learned to fight one handed."
And then Anakin cuts off both of his arms.
Karma.
If memory serves that was from Labyrinth of Evil, not Episode III. But he did definitely say, or at least think that.
It's crazy how so many people didn't learn the lesson StarWars is trying to teach. Don't be an A hole, think for yourself dont just go with the flow of everyone around you, use your heart but don't be ruled by it, and try to do better for the next generation but don't ruin their childhood. Very simple but so many people couldn't understand the second layer behind good vs bad, bad is maybe not always bad and good isn't always good
Dooku being a master of lightsaber combat even comes out in his choreography, like in Ep 3 when he fights Anakin and Obi Wan if you oay attention he forces them out of their comfort zones by making Obi Wan go on the offensive and chase him down while also forcing Anakin to go on the defensive
"I've been looking forward to this"
in legends sidious shows dooku (basically on cctv) Qui Gons death which is kinda the final straw and pushes him over to the dark side
I’m still looking forward to the Darth maul deep dive
There are offshoots of the Jedis, like the Imperial Knights of the Fel Empire also known as Imperial Jedi , founded by Empress Jaina Solo daughter of Princess Leila.
They are Grey Jedis who use the Force as a tool and train in how not to fall to the Dark Side.
It was their duty to prevent the Emperor from falling to the Dark Side and kill him if he fel.
I loved the Imperial Knights
21:30 Im pretty sure that this is "somewhat official" interpretation used also by Dave Filoni
You can see it as part of interwiev if you type in YT search:
Star Wars: Duel of the Fates Explanation by Dave Filoni
Nux if you watch Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi you slowly see doku turn into the dark side
Nux: I hate Disney Star Wars.
Proceeds to watch a video full with Disney Star Wars and enjoying it
A lot of people echo that sentiment about Qui-Gon.
Sure, Obi-Wan “won” by defeating Maul, but not really. They won the fight but lost the war. After Qui-Gon died, they were doomed.
As someone who enjoys SWTOR I humbly suggest checking out the story of Vitiate/Valkorion.
Finally! I love Dooku.
Sidious feared that if count dooku had a strong and compliant apprentice/partner he could beat papa palpatine who would be all by his lonesome
Nux needs to look into when Dooku convinced Yoda to embrace the dark side for a moment.
One of the reason the Republic had to choose their battle is because they didn't have an army before the Clone War. They had a Judicial force(just enough to be police) & the Jedi to assist defend each planet *defend themselves* . Basically the Republic on their own(without the local planet's support) can handle at max: medium griminal organizations or a couple of rebellious planets.... *NOT* big criminal Empire like the Huts, or something like the C.I.S
I wish they would animate all the old lore
To be fair sidious was not afraid of ventress alone , he was suspicious that if she reached her full potential then the combined might of her and dooku could be a real problem.
Sidious ordered Dooku to kill Ventress because Sidious had a secret apprentice that he planned to use to kill Plagius, Maul. So Sidious wanted her gone so Dooku doesn't 2v1 Sidious once the war is over. By having Dooku try to kill Ventress, the two would be at each other's throats than at Sidious.
The banks were nationalized during the clone wars. The clone army was funded by the sith. The rule of 2 Sith acquired wealth over a thousand years.
Nux needs to react to the philosophy of Kreia. Her views on both the Jedi, Sith and the force in general is quite fascinating
18:08 Yes, priests can still maintain relationships with their families. I have a relative that is a Franciscan friar and he is very much allowed to visit his mother, siblings, etc. He just can’t have a wife and kids because he is “married to the Church”. Also, being Franciscan means he can’t really own a lot of material property as he’s also taken a vow of poverty
Nux seeing the average Youngling in the Jedi order:
"Is this a Sasuke story done right?"
You know what Nux, if you haven't seen it, I want you to react to the Hogfather. So much blindingly funny stuff just to immediately make you cry out of sentiment and then be touched by the lesson at the end. Everyone wants you to react to terrifying SCPs that rip your soul, I suggest something that will heal it.
@Nuxanor Dooku is not only considered to be the greatest lightsaber duelist of his generation but he is also recognized as one of the greatest lightsaber duelist in the history of the jedi order.
Rip yaddle
Now for Qui Gon's lore, Dooku's apprentice.
If I remember correctly Quinlan Vos was a badass pretty much the whole time
How am I just now discovering Nuxanor? I like how you see things, man. I can tell you like Wendigoon, too.
Tulak hord, the sith lord of hate. The sith lord that united all other sith to fight for him through fear and respect.conquered all other sith planets with sith magic and near impossible to beat in a saber fight. (Star wars legends)
Somone teach Nux the Christopher Lee lore.
Rule of 2. Dooku was allowed a sith assassin.
Same with palpatine, how he was allowed to have maul. But if the assassin became too strong, the apprentice and their assassin/apprentice could team up to form the next sith and apprentice duo. So as the Sith Lord. Eliminating the assassin before they become too strong. Ensures his rule as the Sith Lord