This came from my stream on January 29th! Watch live next time: / northernlion Do not argue with me I've done all the school, I know my way around the hallways.
@@classified022 Tbh I dont get that. I mean sure I can see if you dont like part of the subject you study but I would never be able to bring myself to study something I have no interest in. Ironically Biology is indeed what I study lol
Doing a degree in a subject is nothing like high school. I hated maths until I was like 16 now I’m in my 1st year of a mathematics degree and loving it.
(Pre-emptive caveat: My experience was 20 years ago, so I don't know if it's the same for kids today.) NL might have had a different opinion of it if he went to school in a country with five thousand years of history instead of one or two thousand. Indian history starts from ~3000 BC (the Indus Valley Civilization) and goes all the way to 1950 (independence from the British) and is full of memorizing which ancient Indian kingdom conquered which other ancient Indian kingdom, and which king built what city and wrote what books. We didn't even get to learn anything about the rest of the world, not even the two World Wars, because everything happening in the country was already a lot. It wasn't a "bad teacher" problem; it was an institutional "bad curriculum" problem. It was literally a way to check if a student can memorize absolutely inane BS and then forget it to make room for the next round of inane BS, year after year. The only way I got through it was knowing I'd be able to drop it in eleventh grade (along with Geography and Civics, the other two "rote memorization" subjects I hated). Fuck that shit; put it in F where it belongs. /rant Anyway, great video, mostly agree with everything else, pogged out of my gourd, etc.
@Andrew S Tompkins jesus here in Portugal my physics pabs what the teacer describing the experiment and then use doing the exercises in the book and making a report without actually doing the experiment
History A+ let's goooooooo! My high school and university history departments thank you deeply. Also hilarious how you mention every high school history class starts with an essay defending the importance of the discipline; the first book I had to read for one of my M.A. classes was called "Why Study History?"
I used to teach Maths so here's my take on the application. It's taught in schools because it requires children to think. Sometimes an answer can come to you immediately, but often in Maths the point is to really scratch your head and make connections. Wicked good for the brain and training yourself to have a mathematical mind will help you to see many aspects of life with more clarity and focus.
I'm a math major atm; I think you can do better than that. Mathematics is the study of *abstraction* . Numbers and functions are abstractions, just as are groups, rings, fields, topological spaces, diffeologies, knot polynomials, manifolds, differential forms, metacategories, Sobolev spaces. Capacity for abstraction is one of the best contenders for what separates human beings from animals; formal logic is beginning to undergird philosophical studies of epistemology, ethics, and metaphysics. We study math in school because it has applications in every single place humans think. School math is not useless or pointless, is not mere reasoning practice--it forms a basis for truly general mathematical study, the kind where this level of applicability becomes obvious. Without the intuitions for the real number line, it is impossible to understand epsilon-delta arguments; without intuition for the integers mod n, it is impossible to understand factor groups; without intuition for polynomials, it is impossible to understand them over general rings; without intuition for Cartesian space, it is impossible to understand its topological generalizations.
Maths is a little frustrating for me. I was trying to add fractions and instead of doing 3×2 my brain did 3+2 and then I was wondering why it wasn't correct until I saw the answer...
@@duncanw9901 Is the study of abstraction, that is most if only applicable to higher levels of math. Not math up to calculus, which is the highest level non math majors are going to take. That is not doing "better" Doesn't help anyone except a math major.
I would support physical education more if the focus was physical education, and not who is the biggest, fastest, strongest. Because some students will never be able to compete with the more athletically focused students. Physical education should be about learning how to be a better you, not to be better than the other guy.
NL: laments reading The Tempest as opposed to woodworking at 34:29 also NL: paraphrases Polonius' Act I Scene III of Hamlet famous line: "to thine own self be true" as a creed at 34:47 I love it
I always liked chemistry and thought biology was just as you described it. Then I learned about molecular biology and it put biology in a completely different light. You don't look at it as just memorizing facts anymore. Instead biology becomes the study of the mechanisms that allow biological machines to replicate, which is really cool.
I had several different technology classes that were extremely good in different ways. In one of them we learned about networking (IP and subnet configuration before windows did it all itself). Then learned to make network cable and helped to wire several classrooms with network cable and then configure all the computers to work on it. It was a blast for a high school class.
As someone who went to high school within the last 10 years I can’t really relate to the whole dichotomy of popular jocks and nerdy band kids. The complex of popularity was definitely still there but to me it seemed pretty arbitrarily defined. The worst thing you could be was a loner. On paper I was well liked but didn’t really have a social circle. I was envious of the “nerdy” kids who just had a good time with each other. I think in my generation there was a bigger emphasis on finding your people rather than climbing through the social ranks. It will be interesting to see how this dynamic continues to change over the years.
My AP physics teacher brought in various lamps made with pure elements like sodium. It was pretty cool seeing single wavelength light illuminate a room
Im undergoing 5 years of chemistry atm in university, and then 3 more of biochemestry. I kind of agree chemistry sucks, but even trying to do any virology-work without it is impossible. Chemistry is better when you have an actual use of it instead of just learning shit because you have to. Our chemistry is strictly organic and with a biological emphasis. There is no better way to learn chemistry then trough the only lens you will use it with in the future
To be fair, the chem pracs never work. Like you go into a physics lab and it's like, here's what we're demonstrating and you do it and it just works™. Chem labs are like here's what doing; but also there's gunna be some unknown phenomena which means that the prac just is scuffed.
26:00 Back in Mexico, Geography class was basically the history of the planet Earth, learned about all the different eras, stuff about volcanoes, glaciers and other natural phenomena. I remember really enjoying it.
I don't usually hear people ask, "What are the real world applications of math?" Rather, I hear people ask, "When am I ever going to use this?" The real world applications of math at the high school level are innumerable. Trigonometry is used pretty much everywhere where you need to measure things. Calculus is the bedrock of physics. Algebra is necessary for understanding linear algebra, which is used whenever you have any sort of dynamic system with multiple inputs and outputs. Algebra is also used whenever you have unknown variables described by polynomials, which happens a lot in the sciences. That's the answer to "What are the applications?" But the answer to "When am I going to use this?" is pretty much always, "I don't know. What do I look like, a future seer?"
I think this is more on the tier-list maker for including both. They're the same subject just with different names, so egg just took it to be Geography (which is boring as hell from a school context)
That teacher on your case for not knowing your Lemmings password? Did you a favour. Teaches you that you need to prove points you have. Branches off into TRUST. HUUUUGE life skill.
Honestly music class is always poggy because of the comradery. You usually stick with the same people if you keep taking it throughout the years so you get that pog development
Geography being about where cities are is one of the biggest misconceptions unfortunately. Geography is my minor and it's about making and analyzing maps, climate and geology, agriculture, where to put industries, urban planing nad much more. It's a very varied field, but the first few years of school conditioned us to just think of it as capitlas and stuff. "Oh you study geography, whats's the capital of Malaysia?"
My highschool Chemistry teacher didn't care for the result as much as he did for your findings / analysis. if the result of your expiriment wasn't as it was expected, but in your documentation you outlined what went wrong, what should have happened at that step, and what happened you could still score an A/A-. because acording to my teacher "they can train monkeys to follow directions, what matters is that you can understand what is happening and why i happens"
Considering he graduated high school around 13 years ago I certainly find it useful. I graduated 8 years ago and found it super useful to learn how to use word, power point and excel specially at a time not everyone had computers
@@thesphnx6836 he sounded like he didn't go in depth, he just had to type on it. I don't know man, I did typing classes, and I can confidently say that was the biggest waste in money I've done in my entire life. But you do you
History teacher (Dutch) here. It is very much the case that the quallity of the class is dependant on the teacher. I have seniors that just prattle along without even trying to entice students. Now for what you can learn from history? Critical thinking skills is where I put my emphasis on. Impressive if you can name every gun in ww2 or all the battles in the American civil war. However I rather see my students uses skills like deductional reasoning, forming opinions, historical thinking, being able to shift their perspective from a modern day one to one of a person back then, strategic thinking, evidence gathering by scrutinizing sources, etc.
History is an easy F for me. Teacher was basically talking for 90 minutes straight, no participation from students, exams were just examining a historic text, so basically a german exam in my case. Terrible. Maths and Latin is A+ tho
@@jotchua33547 Not interested in that conversation, but history can be summarized like this: People learn in history class that people don't learn anything from history. They just keep making the same mistakes. Also it's just learning facts from the past, no understanding or otherwise useful cognitive skills besides memorization. Also completely useless in my everyday life.
@@Lucasinbrawl The idea that all you learn from history is that history repeats itself is overplayed, it has less to do with optimizing responses and more to do with understanding the human condition. It can be easier to empathize with others when you know what exactly got them to be in the position that they are. Plus, the idea that people don't learn from history is silly, no one is making the "same mistakes" because life is not a repeatable rogue-like, we simply learn from events in the past and use it to frame our responses to different events in the future. Plus, I think it's reductive to say it isn't useful in everyday life, and that there are no skills involved besides memorization. While that's true on the surface, a heck of a lot of subjects could be broken down in the same way. While math equations are self evident and can be solved, you also need to memorize them first. And plenty of people use the knowledge of history every day, I mean, history is what frames every part of politics which is INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. The idea that policy change is based on "progress" is framing future decisions off of the past.
As a chemistry teacher I can tell you we don't care if you get 1.2 grams instead of 3 grams, as long as you can point out at what parts of the process that might have gone wrong and why.
Physics is by far my least favourite science. It's the only class that I have ever failed. Something about it just doesn't work in my brain. I'm fine at math, love other sciences, but physics is just pain.
Social Studies is just the study of the social sciences. These include history, physical geography, human geography, civics/political science, economics, sociology, and psychology. I most American middle schools these subjects are all lumped into the same class. However, in high school (my high school at least) they tend to get their own separate classes. They're usually lumped together because the study of one often involves aspects of all the social sciences. For example, students looking at Canada in a geography class would study the physical geography, Canada's history, its economic and political landscapes, culture and human interactions with their environment (human geography), and general aspects of Canada's society (sociology).
My history teacher would just have us read and retell the book 1 student per chapter in front of the class every class. It was mindnumbingly boring. She'd also sometimes fall asleep and the students would just go quiet to not wake her up. When she'd wake up, the presenter would just say how the chapter ended and got a good grade. That was hilarious, but I didn't learn shit in that class.
Just makes me depressed at how utterly deprived rural U.S. schools can be. "Our computer technology class didn't even teach coding!!" Uhh, you had a computer tech class??!
Bro have my high school career was computers lol. 2 computer science classes, web design, typing, cisco networking, hands on with switches and routers and such. My teacher sourced alot of equipment from closed down businesses and got donations and such. I also feel sorry for you guys.
Art is important in that it teaches you to communicate ideas without words, which is useful for a wide range of things from UI design to directing to product development.
I love art, but I hate art class in school. The fact that art class is structured makes it terrible because that isn’t what art is supposed to be. I remember I had this long term art substitute that was the single worst person I ever met in my entire life. I didn’t draw a single picture for 3 years afterwards until I started doodling on the white boards in math class, which is now the reason I love art again.
I found out the use of Mathematics during my degree in it. It's not about using it in the real world it's the analytical process you learn. Being able to problem solve and think things through logically is really important for a lot of jobs and all these skills are best learnt through math. I have no idea why no teacher ever gave a good answer to why math is useful.
Probably because in the 90’s teachers didn’t anticipate the only jobs/education that would be valued by global capital would be those in science, engineers, computer/technology, and mathematics because the “first” world hadn’t yet fully committed to almost total deindustrialization and offshored all of its manufacturing to nations with a cheaper, much less protected labor force. Of course, they realize now we are living in service industry led nations which is why you will naturally see an over saturation in competition in STEM fields, driving down the wages where they will eventually settle above service industry jobs but not the orders of magnitude higher that they are now, just enough to draw a distinct presumption of hierarchy to maintain working class friction. Uh, I mean, lol it’s math four head, of course it’s valuable. I like it!!!
"Financial literacy" (In bc) = planning class. Planning class = even though someone set provincial records in track while on meth doesn't mean that meth is right for you
As a current Graduate student pursuing an MFA in painting, I do not blame you for putting Art in F tier. Although art is obviously my favorite subject the American and from what I heard of your experience the Canadian art education system’s are by and large sub par. I would even go on to say that art education is the subject most people are least educated in
I loved band. Took the main band class and multiple extracurricular band classes. We weren't considered dorks for liking band. Many of my classmates went on to having careers in it. I still love playing to this day.
The technologist Kai-Fu Lee predicted a relatively seamless Babelfish (1-3 second delay) in “about three years” in 2019. So it looks like it could be here before too long.
I agree chemistry isn't super fun, but I feel like it is extremely important to understand atoms as building blocks of our entire universe. Can you even call yourself educated in the modern world if you don't know what atoms and electrons are?
as a chemistry major, math for me has been just a series of problems that make you figure out how to use the tools you've been given, it foundational for thinking in a more analytical way, but teachers just don't tell you the importance of that, unfortunately
The problem with what he's saying about mathematics is that before university, all the mathematics you learned is the basic stuff that was known in ancient times, so it was only revolutionary (providing new real world applications) at those times. Of course, even the basics are still used everywhere today, but it's not as front and centre as the new mathematics of the modern world. So in order to even understand something that has real applications in a new way in the modern world, you need to basically get at least beyond the 1600s mathematics like the fundamentals of calculus, and into the 1700s and beyond where the really interesting stuff starts. So I understand what he's saying, but it's impossible to give a satisfying answer without either throwing out words you've never heard of (and would take potentially years of learning to really understand), or giving examples from hundreds to thousands of years ago that were new at the time. For me, and many others, the real world applications aren't nearly as amazing as simply the beauty of the mathematics itself, and you sort of need that mentality to really get to the point where you eventually understand things that have somewhat recent applications in the real world.
As someone who’s school board had social studies and not history it was like a mix of history, current events, and culture. A little bit of geography but it wasn’t a focus of the curriculum in high school
Damn totally different from mine. I love history but I'd put history class in F tier for how much they straight up omitted or lied about, and refused to teach us anything relevant to our actual current country. When I studied AP History and history on my own in college at the library and just digging through wikipedia, I found so much about our world that was just completely omitted in American schools. Art I'd put in A or B tier just because I genuinely enjoyed my time in art classes, but it's totally understandable to put it in F for most people. I've definitely had my share of bad art classes, and it really depends on your own interest in it and your teacher, like most subjects, but especially for something that is so dependent on personal interest and work. I do agree that schools should absolutely teach us more practical schools. Home Ed got cut the year I took it, and we never had economics or other similar classes. Never got taught how to do taxes or anything about our laws, stuff like that. Even my US Government class didn't talk about relevant/current laws or anything, we just got to learn about how the judicial system was formed and stuff like Roe v Wade, just a few huge specific cases. Gonna stop now before this rant gets any longer haha.
Before clicking on this I asked myself how the Eggman could make a 48min video about school subjects into non-stop pogicity. No explanation needed, he just does.
4:03 I take issue with that. Im not trying to diminish what chemists might do for society, but your content entertains tens of thousands of people. That's crazy! It's a way bigger positive impact than anyone can ever hope to have.
I once subscribed to the belief that physics and math were superior, but once I started taking higher level courses, I realized I liked the life science better lol. When you don't get the math in physics and the higher dimensional problem solving/abstractness in math, they kinda suck.
Music is my A+ but I had an extraordinarily good music teacher in high school. He wasn't the nicest teacher, but in term of doing his job, he was the best. I have 2 album (one sophomore and one senior) recording to my name due to that teacher, which is an extracurricular activity (I was public school, so that the activity could even happen was also extraordinary) he did with those who participated with the harmony and the jazz band, damn that those were tiring activities (playing tenor sax from morning to evening for me, as I was in both), but one of my only good memory of high school.
sudbury schools are a super cool concept that I think is so much better than anything public schools offer. why not just let kids learn the things they're interested in instead of forcing them into classes they can't stand and ruining their learning experience
As a math major, I think the problem with math, is it takes a lot of commitment before you get to the exciting bits. Most of the real world applications of math today- the sort used in physics, chemistry, finance, computer science or statistics, all utilize college level mathematics. Showing people math they don't understand can be very intimidating, so most teachers don't do that. But you need to build the 'alphabet' of mathematics so to speak, before you can go onto college math. That's why most examples teachers give are often from older times, or are very simple and vague. Before you make it to college math, it's a bit like planting a fruit tree without ever having seen a fruit tree in your life. Other subjects don't have that problem. History has its mysteries of interest. Chemistry can show you something exploding. English can show you books. Arts can show you paintings or other expressions of creativity. It takes great math teachers to overcome that hurdle and it tends to be those teachers alone that inspire future math students.
"Has studied Biology for 4 years"
"Biology D tier"
Smh egg.
"Currently writing my thesis in Chemistry"
"if i was to cut any science for a more practical subject chemistry would probably be close to the top"
My man did his undergrad in biology, and doesn't consider it to be a practical subject to study.
A lot of people dont like what they study
@@classified022 Tbh I dont get that. I mean sure I can see if you dont like part of the subject you study but I would never be able to bring myself to study something I have no interest in.
Ironically Biology is indeed what I study lol
Doing a degree in a subject is nothing like high school.
I hated maths until I was like 16 now I’m in my 1st year of a mathematics degree and loving it.
A better personality test than any personality test.
I know I'm kinda off topic but do anyone know a good website to watch new series online?
@Kohen Ryker flixportal =)
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This guy falls asleep to History, that's why it's S tier.
(Pre-emptive caveat: My experience was 20 years ago, so I don't know if it's the same for kids today.)
NL might have had a different opinion of it if he went to school in a country with five thousand years of history instead of one or two thousand. Indian history starts from ~3000 BC (the Indus Valley Civilization) and goes all the way to 1950 (independence from the British) and is full of memorizing which ancient Indian kingdom conquered which other ancient Indian kingdom, and which king built what city and wrote what books. We didn't even get to learn anything about the rest of the world, not even the two World Wars, because everything happening in the country was already a lot.
It wasn't a "bad teacher" problem; it was an institutional "bad curriculum" problem. It was literally a way to check if a student can memorize absolutely inane BS and then forget it to make room for the next round of inane BS, year after year. The only way I got through it was knowing I'd be able to drop it in eleventh grade (along with Geography and Civics, the other two "rote memorization" subjects I hated).
Fuck that shit; put it in F where it belongs. /rant
Anyway, great video, mostly agree with everything else, pogged out of my gourd, etc.
@@Arnavion damn i much preferred ancient history over more modern history
@@ozymandias3456 ancient history was poggers
@@Arnavion yup history for me had also completely useless facts that i had to memorie and forget instantly cause it was completely pointless xD
@@Arnavion seems more like a problem with the overall school system than any one subject. ( One we definitely have in Canada as well. )
"Physics is the most fun labs"
We literally just dropped a pen 3 times and wrote about it for the next 4 days.
Right, chemistry experiments are far better.
@Andrew S Tompkins jesus here in Portugal my physics pabs what the teacer describing the experiment and then use doing the exercises in the book and making a report without actually doing the experiment
As someone who graduated last year I fuckin hated labs
@Andrew S Tompkins Did you say ‘melting wood’? 😂
Meme shack commented on an egg video POG!
Seeing NL's approach to any kind of artistic design in videogames, (like in Minecraft), I am zero percent surprised that he does not rate art class
I audibly laughed when he changed the "C tier" into "C++" for the technology class. Nice joke there eggy.
I C what I did there omegalol
@@Northernlion Absolute pepsi-lad
Tbf doe C would also work
I actually laughed at that.
Northernlion, witty and c#
History A+ let's goooooooo! My high school and university history departments thank you deeply. Also hilarious how you mention every high school history class starts with an essay defending the importance of the discipline; the first book I had to read for one of my M.A. classes was called "Why Study History?"
I used to teach Maths so here's my take on the application.
It's taught in schools because it requires children to think. Sometimes an answer can come to you immediately, but often in Maths the point is to really scratch your head and make connections. Wicked good for the brain and training yourself to have a mathematical mind will help you to see many aspects of life with more clarity and focus.
School maths is to the mind what running laps is to the body : you're not necessarily going anywhere, the point is to train.
I'm a math major atm; I think you can do better than that. Mathematics is the study of *abstraction* . Numbers and functions are abstractions, just as are groups, rings, fields, topological spaces, diffeologies, knot polynomials, manifolds, differential forms, metacategories, Sobolev spaces. Capacity for abstraction is one of the best contenders for what separates human beings from animals; formal logic is beginning to undergird philosophical studies of epistemology, ethics, and metaphysics. We study math in school because it has applications in every single place humans think. School math is not useless or pointless, is not mere reasoning practice--it forms a basis for truly general mathematical study, the kind where this level of applicability becomes obvious. Without the intuitions for the real number line, it is impossible to understand epsilon-delta arguments; without intuition for the integers mod n, it is impossible to understand factor groups; without intuition for polynomials, it is impossible to understand them over general rings; without intuition for Cartesian space, it is impossible to understand its topological generalizations.
Maths is a little frustrating for me. I was trying to add fractions and instead of doing 3×2 my brain did 3+2 and then I was wondering why it wasn't correct until I saw the answer...
@@duncanw9901 Is the study of abstraction, that is most if only applicable to higher levels of math. Not math up to calculus, which is the highest level non math majors are going to take. That is not doing "better" Doesn't help anyone except a math major.
Even though I recognize that now I did a fair bit of shit-talking, even while wanting to improve
The rant about woodworking really hit home. Sometimes I really wonder if I'd been happier learning something practical.
10 minutes of NL defaming his, likely now deceased, high school computer teacher.
Me and Northerns list are literally identical. Has watching him for like 10 years molded me in his perfect figure?
As long as you're not bald, it's just overlapping interests.
@@TheFuriousBrother oh crap i'm bald
You are the son he never had.
@@TheFuriousBrother I do have a heckin bunch of hair so I'm not the long lost son
Yeah man! My balls are so itchy and hungry and horney!
I haven’t even watched this video yet but I know this is gonna be so pogged
Oh. My. God.
Not only is this mega pog
But I knew this man was smart, and putting history at the top only confirmed that
Doing my masters in math and I completely agree that History is the one and only S tier.
guess I must be a dumbass then
I would support physical education more if the focus was physical education, and not who is the biggest, fastest, strongest. Because some students will never be able to compete with the more athletically focused students. Physical education should be about learning how to be a better you, not to be better than the other guy.
Elect this individual head of education for the entire world. Best take on physical education I've ever heard
If you want to see examples of comments contributing to a discussion intelligently and which makes all of us think positively, here you go.
this is a powerful hot take
"we played flash games for 40 minutes." Bro that's the one class you needed
Chemistry is literally the closest thing to magic there is in the real world
*"You don't understand, baby!"*
I haven't smiled this much watching TH-cam until NL started interacting with his baby on camera.
NL: laments reading The Tempest as opposed to woodworking at 34:29
also NL: paraphrases Polonius' Act I Scene III of Hamlet famous line: "to thine own self be true" as a creed at 34:47
I love it
I audibly "oooo" 'd after seeing this in ye old subbox.
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I always liked chemistry and thought biology was just as you described it. Then I learned about molecular biology and it put biology in a completely different light. You don't look at it as just memorizing facts anymore. Instead biology becomes the study of the mechanisms that allow biological machines to replicate, which is really cool.
This is the most NL video he's uploaded so far.
NL your take on history almost brought a tear to my eye I have NEVER agreed more in my life
I had several different technology classes that were extremely good in different ways.
In one of them we learned about networking (IP and subnet configuration before windows did it all itself). Then learned to make network cable and helped to wire several classrooms with network cable and then configure all the computers to work on it. It was a blast for a high school class.
I say this unironically: social studies was the hardest subject for me, my brain wasn’t wired for it
As someone who went to high school within the last 10 years I can’t really relate to the whole dichotomy of popular jocks and nerdy band kids. The complex of popularity was definitely still there but to me it seemed pretty arbitrarily defined. The worst thing you could be was a loner. On paper I was well liked but didn’t really have a social circle. I was envious of the “nerdy” kids who just had a good time with each other. I think in my generation there was a bigger emphasis on finding your people rather than climbing through the social ranks. It will be interesting to see how this dynamic continues to change over the years.
My AP physics teacher brought in various lamps made with pure elements like sodium. It was pretty cool seeing single wavelength light illuminate a room
As a chemistry teacher I am hurt, but you still get a like for roasting my subject and by proxy me.
It’s crazy to me the age range of Nls audience, I’m new but I’ve just turned 18 and all the chemistry teachers at my school are over 45 sooo
Chem teachers unite, let's do a zoom collab
8th Grade physical science teacher here. Chemistry is my favorite part of the curriculum. My heart sinks at the C.
Im undergoing 5 years of chemistry atm in university, and then 3 more of biochemestry. I kind of agree chemistry sucks, but even trying to do any virology-work without it is impossible. Chemistry is better when you have an actual use of it instead of just learning shit because you have to.
Our chemistry is strictly organic and with a biological emphasis. There is no better way to learn chemistry then trough the only lens you will use it with in the future
To be fair, the chem pracs never work. Like you go into a physics lab and it's like, here's what we're demonstrating and you do it and it just works™. Chem labs are like here's what doing; but also there's gunna be some unknown phenomena which means that the prac just is scuffed.
26:00 Back in Mexico, Geography class was basically the history of the planet Earth, learned about all the different eras, stuff about volcanoes, glaciers and other natural phenomena. I remember really enjoying it.
47:53 Luna's real name leaked, baby Grogu Letourneau
I don't usually hear people ask, "What are the real world applications of math?" Rather, I hear people ask, "When am I ever going to use this?" The real world applications of math at the high school level are innumerable. Trigonometry is used pretty much everywhere where you need to measure things. Calculus is the bedrock of physics. Algebra is necessary for understanding linear algebra, which is used whenever you have any sort of dynamic system with multiple inputs and outputs. Algebra is also used whenever you have unknown variables described by polynomials, which happens a lot in the sciences.
That's the answer to "What are the applications?" But the answer to "When am I going to use this?" is pretty much always, "I don't know. What do I look like, a future seer?"
My faith in my history degree has been restored now that it's an A+ :,)
Good luck with your studies!
history is chad subject. too bad jobs is meh and paper writings is big
@@b33lze6u6 just write a best selling history book 4head
You're really putting Social Studies in F after putting History in A+?
I think this is more on the tier-list maker for including both. They're the same subject just with different names, so egg just took it to be Geography (which is boring as hell from a school context)
@@GroundThing in the country i live they aren't close to the same subject
@@GroundThing social study is mostly how goverment works, what a few philosopher thought meanwhile history, is well history
The end of this video was the absolute cutest thing ever
I adored your opinion on history as a subject, couldnt agree more
Single best part of this video is the cheeky C++ ranking change
That chemistry bit at the beginning had me dying lmao
That teacher on your case for not knowing your Lemmings password? Did you a favour. Teaches you that you need to prove points you have. Branches off into TRUST. HUUUUGE life skill.
Honestly music class is always poggy because of the comradery. You usually stick with the same people if you keep taking it throughout the years so you get that pog development
We had a computers class in school and literally the only thing you had to do to pass was to make a Christmas card in word.
All native English speakers everywhere for the past 70 years: "Won't we have a translation device soon?"
Geography being about where cities are is one of the biggest misconceptions unfortunately. Geography is my minor and it's about making and analyzing maps, climate and geology, agriculture, where to put industries, urban planing nad much more. It's a very varied field, but the first few years of school conditioned us to just think of it as capitlas and stuff. "Oh you study geography, whats's the capital of Malaysia?"
That technology teachers class was pure gold. Just... WTF?! 72 year old computer tracher?!
“And that’s my take on the subject.”
Yep. It literally is.
My highschool Chemistry teacher didn't care for the result as much as he did for your findings / analysis.
if the result of your expiriment wasn't as it was expected, but in your documentation you outlined what went wrong, what should have happened at that step, and what happened you could still score an A/A-.
because acording to my teacher "they can train monkeys to follow directions, what matters is that you can understand what is happening and why i happens"
"One of our assignments for computer class was to write a movie review. And why it was computer based?
It had to be written in Microsoft Word"
Bro...
Considering he graduated high school around 13 years ago I certainly find it useful. I graduated 8 years ago and found it super useful to learn how to use word, power point and excel specially at a time not everyone had computers
@@thesphnx6836 he sounded like he didn't go in depth, he just had to type on it. I don't know man, I did typing classes, and I can confidently say that was the biggest waste in money I've done in my entire life. But you do you
History teacher (Dutch) here. It is very much the case that the quallity of the class is dependant on the teacher. I have seniors that just prattle along without even trying to entice students.
Now for what you can learn from history? Critical thinking skills is where I put my emphasis on. Impressive if you can name every gun in ww2 or all the battles in the American civil war. However I rather see my students uses skills like deductional reasoning, forming opinions, historical thinking, being able to shift their perspective from a modern day one to one of a person back then, strategic thinking, evidence gathering by scrutinizing sources, etc.
Your class sounds like training for detectives. 😂
Truly NL has surpassed all knowledge by blessing us with this gift
Hated history myself. My A+ tier would contain math, physical education and maybe geography, but I'd consider it for A tier.
History is an easy F for me. Teacher was basically talking for 90 minutes straight, no participation from students, exams were just examining a historic text, so basically a german exam in my case. Terrible. Maths and Latin is A+ tho
bad teacher does not equal bad subject but go off i suppose
@@jotchua33547 Not interested in that conversation, but history can be summarized like this: People learn in history class that people don't learn anything from history. They just keep making the same mistakes.
Also it's just learning facts from the past, no understanding or otherwise useful cognitive skills besides memorization. Also completely useless in my everyday life.
@@Lucasinbrawl The idea that all you learn from history is that history repeats itself is overplayed, it has less to do with optimizing responses and more to do with understanding the human condition. It can be easier to empathize with others when you know what exactly got them to be in the position that they are. Plus, the idea that people don't learn from history is silly, no one is making the "same mistakes" because life is not a repeatable rogue-like, we simply learn from events in the past and use it to frame our responses to different events in the future.
Plus, I think it's reductive to say it isn't useful in everyday life, and that there are no skills involved besides memorization. While that's true on the surface, a heck of a lot of subjects could be broken down in the same way. While math equations are self evident and can be solved, you also need to memorize them first. And plenty of people use the knowledge of history every day, I mean, history is what frames every part of politics which is INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. The idea that policy change is based on "progress" is framing future decisions off of the past.
As a chemistry teacher I can tell you we don't care if you get 1.2 grams instead of 3 grams, as long as you can point out at what parts of the process that might have gone wrong and why.
Physics is by far my least favourite science. It's the only class that I have ever failed. Something about it just doesn't work in my brain. I'm fine at math, love other sciences, but physics is just pain.
Did I write this comment? I feel identically my friend
Social Studies is just the study of the social sciences. These include history, physical geography, human geography, civics/political science, economics, sociology, and psychology. I most American middle schools these subjects are all lumped into the same class. However, in high school (my high school at least) they tend to get their own separate classes. They're usually lumped together because the study of one often involves aspects of all the social sciences. For example, students looking at Canada in a geography class would study the physical geography, Canada's history, its economic and political landscapes, culture and human interactions with their environment (human geography), and general aspects of Canada's society (sociology).
I gotta admit, having my undergrad education being validated by an egg felt really good
My history teacher would just have us read and retell the book 1 student per chapter in front of the class every class. It was mindnumbingly boring.
She'd also sometimes fall asleep and the students would just go quiet to not wake her up. When she'd wake up, the presenter would just say how the chapter ended and got a good grade.
That was hilarious, but I didn't learn shit in that class.
Actuarial science is good example of a real world application of math.
Just makes me depressed at how utterly deprived rural U.S. schools can be. "Our computer technology class didn't even teach coding!!" Uhh, you had a computer tech class??!
Bro have my high school career was computers lol. 2 computer science classes, web design, typing, cisco networking, hands on with switches and routers and such. My teacher sourced alot of equipment from closed down businesses and got donations and such. I also feel sorry for you guys.
@@ktfjulien can you tell us the timeline for your education ? cause i feel early 2000, computers weren't that common
1st year of chemistry: oh hey this is pretty fun
2nd year: oh hey this isnt very fun at all
To be fair we didnt have a lab so, it was mostly written
Art is important in that it teaches you to communicate ideas without words, which is useful for a wide range of things from UI design to directing to product development.
I love art, but I hate art class in school. The fact that art class is structured makes it terrible because that isn’t what art is supposed to be. I remember I had this long term art substitute that was the single worst person I ever met in my entire life. I didn’t draw a single picture for 3 years afterwards until I started doodling on the white boards in math class, which is now the reason I love art again.
"...the world's smartest idiot"
That is the most relatable thing I have ever heard.
I found out the use of Mathematics during my degree in it. It's not about using it in the real world it's the analytical process you learn. Being able to problem solve and think things through logically is really important for a lot of jobs and all these skills are best learnt through math. I have no idea why no teacher ever gave a good answer to why math is useful.
they probably did but we're just too small brained to understand at that time
Probably because in the 90’s teachers didn’t anticipate the only jobs/education that would be valued by global capital would be those in science, engineers, computer/technology, and mathematics because the “first” world hadn’t yet fully committed to almost total deindustrialization and offshored all of its manufacturing to nations with a cheaper, much less protected labor force. Of course, they realize now we are living in service industry led nations which is why you will naturally see an over saturation in competition in STEM fields, driving down the wages where they will eventually settle above service industry jobs but not the orders of magnitude higher that they are now, just enough to draw a distinct presumption of hierarchy to maintain working class friction.
Uh, I mean, lol it’s math four head, of course it’s valuable. I like it!!!
"Financial literacy" (In bc) = planning class. Planning class = even though someone set provincial records in track while on meth doesn't mean that meth is right for you
History class is pretty much a big ol warning in red saying " DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE "
His story about his music class reminds me of that quantum leap scene, you know the one
"Don't bite my headphone cord!"
Her brothers have taught her well
I was gonna spaz out if Ryan put Music in anything below B.
My man didn’t let me down. Truly cultured this one is.
The biology ranking cut deep, but I agree with you in terms of how it's usually taught.
As a current Graduate student pursuing an MFA in painting, I do not blame you for putting Art in F tier. Although art is obviously my favorite subject the American and from what I heard of your experience the Canadian art education system’s are by and large sub par. I would even go on to say that art education is the subject most people are least educated in
As a teenager just a decade ago this hits deep.
Words can't describe the quality of your content. I hope that you hit that 1M subscriber count ASAP.
Can tell this gonna be some great content thx pal.
physics, wood shop, and life skills all have the same caliber of pog
I loved band. Took the main band class and multiple extracurricular band classes. We weren't considered dorks for liking band. Many of my classmates went on to having careers in it. I still love playing to this day.
The technologist Kai-Fu Lee predicted a relatively seamless Babelfish (1-3 second delay) in “about three years” in 2019. So it looks like it could be here before too long.
At my school like damn near everyone was in band so there was no problem being in it
I agree chemistry isn't super fun, but I feel like it is extremely important to understand atoms as building blocks of our entire universe. Can you even call yourself educated in the modern world if you don't know what atoms and electrons are?
1. As a history major, HELL YEA brother
2. Graduated 2016, major band/choir kid, as well as student council kid, and had no problems
as a chemistry major, math for me has been just a series of problems that make you figure out how to use the tools you've been given, it foundational for thinking in a more analytical way, but teachers just don't tell you the importance of that, unfortunately
Absolutely pogged content today, glad to see the music subject on the high rises
Math is a lot like history honestly. It explains why the universe is the way it is, and as a bonus you can use is for problem solving.
"I think if you had to cut a science class... I think chemistry would be pretty close to the top of the list."
First of all, how dare you
The problem with what he's saying about mathematics is that before university, all the mathematics you learned is the basic stuff that was known in ancient times, so it was only revolutionary (providing new real world applications) at those times. Of course, even the basics are still used everywhere today, but it's not as front and centre as the new mathematics of the modern world.
So in order to even understand something that has real applications in a new way in the modern world, you need to basically get at least beyond the 1600s mathematics like the fundamentals of calculus, and into the 1700s and beyond where the really interesting stuff starts. So I understand what he's saying, but it's impossible to give a satisfying answer without either throwing out words you've never heard of (and would take potentially years of learning to really understand), or giving examples from hundreds to thousands of years ago that were new at the time. For me, and many others, the real world applications aren't nearly as amazing as simply the beauty of the mathematics itself, and you sort of need that mentality to really get to the point where you eventually understand things that have somewhat recent applications in the real world.
As someone who’s school board had social studies and not history it was like a mix of history, current events, and culture. A little bit of geography but it wasn’t a focus of the curriculum in high school
Damn totally different from mine. I love history but I'd put history class in F tier for how much they straight up omitted or lied about, and refused to teach us anything relevant to our actual current country. When I studied AP History and history on my own in college at the library and just digging through wikipedia, I found so much about our world that was just completely omitted in American schools. Art I'd put in A or B tier just because I genuinely enjoyed my time in art classes, but it's totally understandable to put it in F for most people. I've definitely had my share of bad art classes, and it really depends on your own interest in it and your teacher, like most subjects, but especially for something that is so dependent on personal interest and work. I do agree that schools should absolutely teach us more practical schools. Home Ed got cut the year I took it, and we never had economics or other similar classes. Never got taught how to do taxes or anything about our laws, stuff like that. Even my US Government class didn't talk about relevant/current laws or anything, we just got to learn about how the judicial system was formed and stuff like Roe v Wade, just a few huge specific cases. Gonna stop now before this rant gets any longer haha.
Before clicking on this I asked myself how the Eggman could make a 48min video about school subjects into non-stop pogicity. No explanation needed, he just does.
As someone who isn’t good with building things, who went to college for Computer Science, his programming talk really hit different
Content is Pogged out of proportion
I love when the streams feature The Child, such a fine adition to the Nlverse
I will not tolerate maths and physics slander
Fuck your spicy numbers
@@squawk4391 >:(
As a math and physics double major, anything less than A tier is triggering
4:03 I take issue with that. Im not trying to diminish what chemists might do for society, but your content entertains tens of thousands of people. That's crazy! It's a way bigger positive impact than anyone can ever hope to have.
This is all a secret ploy to get his daughter to do history
There's like 15 subjects and this man squeezed 50 minutes of pure unadulterated POG, only NL things
I once subscribed to the belief that physics and math were superior, but once I started taking higher level courses, I realized I liked the life science better lol. When you don't get the math in physics and the higher dimensional problem solving/abstractness in math, they kinda suck.
A rare baby on camera blessed video. You love to see it
Music is my A+ but I had an extraordinarily good music teacher in high school. He wasn't the nicest teacher, but in term of doing his job, he was the best. I have 2 album (one sophomore and one senior) recording to my name due to that teacher, which is an extracurricular activity (I was public school, so that the activity could even happen was also extraordinary) he did with those who participated with the harmony and the jazz band, damn that those were tiring activities (playing tenor sax from morning to evening for me, as I was in both), but one of my only good memory of high school.
As a chemistry teacher, ding dong your opinion is wrong
sudbury schools are a super cool concept that I think is so much better than anything public schools offer. why not just let kids learn the things they're interested in instead of forcing them into classes they can't stand and ruining their learning experience
grogu special appearance at the end made my day
As a math major, I think the problem with math, is it takes a lot of commitment before you get to the exciting bits. Most of the real world applications of math today- the sort used in physics, chemistry, finance, computer science or statistics, all utilize college level mathematics. Showing people math they don't understand can be very intimidating, so most teachers don't do that. But you need to build the 'alphabet' of mathematics so to speak, before you can go onto college math. That's why most examples teachers give are often from older times, or are very simple and vague. Before you make it to college math, it's a bit like planting a fruit tree without ever having seen a fruit tree in your life. Other subjects don't have that problem. History has its mysteries of interest. Chemistry can show you something exploding. English can show you books. Arts can show you paintings or other expressions of creativity. It takes great math teachers to overcome that hurdle and it tends to be those teachers alone that inspire future math students.
"Chemistry has toooo much math I don't like it"
"Physics is the best science subject"