Are Medieval Tents Good for Adventuring? | A Hard Truth
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- The truth is Medieval people didn't "camp". Not the way most of us think of today. So a fantasy adventurer would have camped slightly differently too!
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I'm impressed by the production standards here, a lot of work probably went into these and the info is very good too. Thanks for the call-out!
Thank you! watching your Knight's Quest short and the making of for that gave me a lot of inspiration and useful information. Obviously your production had a much bigger set up, but I learned how to use UE5 too because your video looked so good!
I reaaaaaaaally would love to see a collab between y'all lol
@@caedenkniep3528 we need to get Kramer to the UK to learn to joust!!!!
Wax it in lard...
I'd think they probably thought it was weird bc you might be an enemy scout or someone like Ted bundy. For them it was probably really rough bc there was no easy way to camp back then and it was cold in Europe all the time.
The Hobbit quote for the conclusion was perfect.
One idea I've considered is that a ship coming to a wilderness shoreline, the crew might use a spare sail, already treated to withstand weather, as a tarp to pitch a temporary shelter. Any well equipped ship has spare rope. Poles and stakes could be quickly cut from local trees. (none of the modern leave no trace camping mentality.)
This is a great point! Or vice versa, if they had dedicated cloth for tents and a sail was damaged, they might use their tent as a sail instead! I'll have to look into this to see if there is evidence for it being done, but you make a good point and it makes total sense to me!
Perhaps but when push comes to shove, logically it is better to have a spare sail & sleep under the stars than the reverse. Folks forget the tremendous amount of work it takes to creat even one sail. The number of sheep fleece, the time to process, spin, weave & sew that huge piece of windproof cloth. Much, much more effort & time then creating the hull. That sailcloth was worth its weight in gold.
I say this as someone who is a spinner & weaver & have processed fleece from shear to fabric. Linen (flax) processing is even longer.
If I am right, this is exactly what the vikings did. Close to the shore they removed the typical rectangular sail and rowed their ships. The sails were used as a tent, when they planed to stay for a while (not when robbing the closest monastry and leave asap...).
The sail can even be set up as a canope on the ship with the horisontal resting mast as a ridgepole.
@@LivingAnachronism - Ships carried sail cloth, which the sail-maker would stitch into sails as required. Sail cloth was also used to make hammocks and even clothing. I'm sure they could rig up a shelter with little difficulty.
“After all, adventures are nasty, uncomfortable things that make you late for dinner. And that’s why we love them.” Amen!
Wow, I love the production value of this one.
One of the primary differences between the medieval period and the usual fantasy settings one runs into is often the most overlooked- monsters and other threats. The medieval world had highwaymen and brigands in some places, but by and large was an order of magnitude safer outside of settlements than the average fantasy setting. This has a MAJOR impact on travel between settlements, both mercantile and adventuring
Interesting point, though I'm not sure if it really makes that much difference to how you would travel. The small group or lone traveller can't do much but hope to avoid the attentions of the nastier flora or fauna of the setting, but as you can't easily pack a tent anyway that probably just means more eat cold suirvival foods. The larger group would be to big to hide, so may as well be as comfortable as possible and trust their numbers are sufficiently intimidating that easier prey is sought.
@@foldionepapyrus3441It makes a huge difference to how you would travel. On one hand, wolves and bears, natural animals that hunt only for food, have a strong sense of self-preservation, don’t prefer humans as a food source, and have low intelligence. Not a danger on well-traveled roads, relatively easy to avoid or deter on less traveled paths.
On the other hand, DRAGON.
Or hag. Or rusalka. Or nuckelavee.
Tell me you wouldn’t travel differently when you might face creatures that were serious threats. Can’t deter a nuckelavee by hanging your food sack out of reach.
@@mrjones2721And just what can you do in how you travel that avoids these dangers? The answer being basically nothing can be done beyond the basics outlined earlier - if there are say 5 or fewer of you being unobtrusive may be possible and the only change would be no campfires, otherwise...
Actually, I don't think monster encounters would be as ubiquities and in fact argue it'd be more like stumbling upon a bear or a puma as well as the result of some other outside fact leading to the confrontation.
True, though strength in numbers and displaying weapons would tend to curb their enthusiasm. You would definitely have to have half the group on watch and everyone else would have to be light sleepers. Though you'd probably just nap with one eye open in those circumstances. Fully armored and armed. Even most brigands and all but the largest monsters would want no part of a well armed and alert hard ass warriors. Deterrents work.
Honestly, a wagon caravan would be the best way to travel, if you have to go long distances without civilization in a fantasy world. It worked for people on the Oregon Trail, who would circle the wagons each night for a defensive advantage against hostile life and natives. Bonus points if your artificer made it so that when they circle, they can connect and form a gord. With how dangerous a fantasy world could be, having the ability to make a small fort in thirty minutes is handy.
So I used to be homeless, and I started out using a tarp mostly because it's easier to move around. Later someone gave me a tent, and it put my life in jeopardy almost as soon as I got it, so I have been reluctant to use one since.
What had happened was the day I set it up, a friend of a friend asked to stay with me that night in the tent and left his bike outside. Shortly after he left the next day, someone showed up looking for him, and pointed his handheld at me. With my tarp setup, I had a way out the back which I could use to escape when things got dicey, but in this situation I was stuck in the tent. Luckily this guy let me off and told me that he wouldn't hesitate if he saw that other guy's bike outside my tent again.
So yeah, no more tents and no letting strangers stay with me.
Wow this is a wild story, and I'm sorry you had to go through all that, but it does provide some very unique insight about tents having an issue I'd never considered before; having an emergency exit
@@LivingAnachronism Yeah I mean I could have probably cut through the back, but it would be a lot slower. Depending on your tarp setup the tent also offers less awareness of what's going on, too. Plus the tarp is more versatile, since you can set it up in different configurations and add or subtract tarps.
Nasty encounter that leads to an interesting point. One that certainly aught to apply to solo/small adventuring groups who lack the strength in numbers to do anything but run when life goes sideways on them. Though I wonder how true that problem would be for medieval tent construction, where it seems like in many cases an opening can be created at any corner quite easily and quickly, and if its one tent for a group of people, which for adventuring groups is almost certainly the case you are not likely to be at such a disadvantage inside it either.
@@foldionepapyrus3441 Yeah it seems like the big tents shown here are made out of multiple pieces and fill a different role than tents today. I kept thinking through this whole video that they seem similar in usage to a trailer than a modern tent. Especially in the context of a tournament, it reminds me of how actors have trailers.
For individual adventurers in a fantasy setting, if they did camp out rather than using inns and hospitality, I think they would probably want that extra versatility and situational awareness, though.
@@asahearts1Agreed, not to mention for the small ground/individual hauling even a modern tent around takes up lots of volume in your pack. So a tarp style camp is perhaps plausible to carry in a way a bigger tent, even a modern one isn't for the adventurer going far from civilisation. To me I'd suggest even a tarp is probably too much for most adventurers, all that pack space you can't fill with food, water or the loot you hope to leave with... Though obviously very climate dependent, as you don't succeed if you die of hypothermia or heatstroke for lack of ways to protect yourself from the worst nature can throw at you here, and if you have some form of magical aid like the D&D Bag of holding concept of course you would have a tent.
Great visuals here!
However ...
Every place you said "cotton" should have been a reference to linen. Cotton didn't grow in Europe, but every homestead grew flax for oil and thread. The sails of the ships were linen canvas.
Nice point that wagons can't go everywhere, but that doesn't make the only alternative backpacking heavy items. You can use trains of horses or mules to pack a few hundred pounds each. There's also using waterways to travel, and to haul mercantile loads.
I was confused by this, too, but one of the specific words he used was 'tree cotton', native to India. Cotton definitely existed in Europe, even if the plants didn't favour the cool climate and probably wouldn't have grown much there. That said, I was surprised he didn't mention linen, so it's likely that is what he meant.
Cotton did actually grow a bit in medieval Europe, Italy was a power house for its production, going back to the 12th century. Northern Europe, it was not that common, however in the souther regions, Mediterranean, it definitely was.
Wanted to leave my own comment about this, so thank you for that. I was a bit annoyed. Cotton was a rarity, linen was much more common.
There is also modern cotton fabric tent's that is lightweight. I doubt it was possible in medieval times. The big advantage to cotton is that it can handle fire/flames much better that the highly flammable polyester.
He also missed the biggest reason to use a tent, mosquitos! They are more active in the night so that is a huge hassle when trying camping without an mosquito safe tent. And in medieval times there where more wetlands, that now have been ditched and converted to farmland, so it had to be more mosquitos back then.
@@user-ni7ci1jx7f According to wikipedia, cotton was indeed processed into textiles in e.g. Italy but I haven no information of it growing anywhere closer than North Africa.
Nice! You clearly made a huge Production Upgrade! Please more live premiers, but if possible with a longer prior notice 🍻🍻🍻😅🍻
Longer prior notice for sure!
@@LivingAnachronism thanks! I hope I wrote the right one on discord for the 3D tents and other medieval Objects.
The waterproof tarp also works very well for even normal travelers, not entirely with a plan for overnight use, but something to pull out and get up if you had to deal with the weather or similar things. It would also work as a thing to drop down over wet ground to provide a dry place to sit for a meal or similar after inclimate weather...or even for your pack or cart to keep things dry for you.
Your rangers might also be using it as a tent more often when on patrol for poachers or whatever issue is going on in the woods that their job included there.
Commenting before I watch. Tents in my mind in a medieval setting make sense for groups, like a semi permanent location, a home base, for bandits, or adventurers operating consistently in an area. Or for a military campaign.
After video: yep you came to the same conclusions as me
look at all the tent camps in skyrim/oblivion, the do work, but as semi permant settlements, not overnight stays.....
@@neoaliphant I actually pictured kingdom come deliverance, more, but yeah
@@neoaliphant bad weather. you need protection an defense sometimes from the elements. If you're hiking along and it's Raining, you're wet sometimes it's best to put something up to prevent hypothermia, and to try an dry out and have something to hold up in out of the elements. If it rains all day and may rain all night I'd rather sleep with some kind of shelter, and it could be snow, or sleet.
You can do that essentially today with a poncho, a pup tent, maybe a large Wool blanket, or even a tarp. Something small, easy enough to carry, not overly heavy, yet very usable.
You can also use a tarp for instance in a L shape, the long side goes toward the wind, the short side used as a roof maybe the two roof ends tied to some trees, with a fire in front. The heat will radiate in the L shape and provide more warmth on colder nights. You hike all day in the cold.. you may want to set up the simple L type shelter, and start a fire, wrap up in a wool blanket and get some needed rest.
May not want a tent type set up every night, but having an option is always good.
@@coppertopv365 but not using any of todays standards and equipment. a more medieval tent is very heavy, and only really possible if a cart or pack animals. tarps are easier yes, but in the context of a tent, it is a more permenant shelter in medieval setting. interesting example is in Rob Roy, where Alistair just wraps part of his great plaid around him and sleeps on the ground.....
The step up in production value is great! I also love that you have clearly done enough research to provide accurate info.
In tabletop RPG terms, I just looked back through my D&D books, and in the AD&D Player's Handbook chapter on equipment you have the option of small, large, and pavilion tents, where the small tent is described as a single-person or two-person pup tent, the large tent is a yurt that can comfortably sleep 3 to 6 human-sized people, and the pavilion tent is, well, a pavilion. D&D 3rd Edition and onward (including Pathfinder) simplified with only the one tent option, described as being able to fit two people. And none of them are light either, the AD&D small tent weighing 10 pounds and the later edition tents weighing 20 pounds, definitely the kind of thing you'd keep on the wagon or pack animals rather than carried on your person.
Yes, excellent points. Anyone tracking encumbrance will quickly realize that a 10-pound tent is the first thing we need to ditch so we can carry more necessary supplies!
@@googiegress7459 "Okay guys, we _could_ spend 6 gold and get three 20-pound tents, or, hear me out, 2 gold for half a dozen heavy-duty tarps."
It always bugged me because my dad was a history buff, so I have some experience with such things. Those tent weights seem too high for what they are. I've picked up a common-sized 1800s military style canvas a-frame tent and it wasn't so bad. A small 1-2 person pup tent would be a lot lighter and easier to manage.
Loving the improvements you've made to your video format and style
Great to hear, thanks David!
I'm loving the upgraded production sorcery. :-) Between you, Shad, and Skill Tree, I'm suddenly getting some very high quality gaming content. I especially appreciated your video on Shadiversity about how solo adventurers might sleep on the move (bedroll, blanket, sitting under a tree) vs using a tent. I think dual use items might be something we would see where adventuring became common: e.g., a spear as a tent pole or a cloak as a tarp or blanket.
You should check out 18th and 19th century English campaign furniture for more ideas when it comes to someone on campaign. Christopher Clarke Antiques did a great (albeit long) presentation a few years ago.
If you wouldn't mind, could you also put links to the other channels and videos you reference in the description? I love that you're making it easy for people to find solid information on other channels by citing your sources.
@@theprogram863 They should be there in the description at the very bottom if you click show more, since I added the cards, they won't be links, just the full thumbnail displayed, you should be able to click on the (i)nformation icon, they show up for me, if they don't show up for you, let me know and I'll add the links into the description too!
Kramer just chillin like a Jarl of Whiterun in the intro...
Holy crap, this was a great video! I really enjoyed seeing you coming into frame from inside the tent and leaning into another. Just made it feel more like we are just watching a Ranger talking his heart out. Really great stuff!
On the subject, I wanna mention that in the book I'm writing(which I have mentioned to you before), there are this group of Dark Elves called Wardens that roam the human lands of Dalmeria in exile for crimes in the past, and they all wear large, black wool cloaks, waterproofed and all. They are designed in such a fashion that, with the help of a sturdy walking pole and some pegs, it can be raised into a small, one-man cone tent. I saw such a tent online once, and thought to myself that it would be perfect, so I implenented it into my world.
I've experimented with using my cloak as a tent as well, it would definitely work with a larger cloak specifically designed for it. I also like the polish Lavvu Tents, or other more modern tents where 2 soldiers combine a coat or poncho that becomes a 2 person tent. Great idea!
This is especially workable when:
a) the cloaks are made with hidden corner pockets specifically sewn into place as reciever points for the ends of compact shelter poles to be inserted into, poles which...
b) ...the skilled bushcraft survivalist can make from scavenged tree branches and plant-fiber cordage in the wilderness, thereby cutting down his pack weight by omitting his need to carry ready-made tent poles with him everywhere he goes
Always love the content, going through the second watch now and thought i would mention something from my own anecdotal experiences.
When i was in the australian infantry we would sleep under a "hootchi" which is a tarp similar to most modern infantry units across the globe. Super versatile and with the ability to join them together if needed to make a mega tarp shelter, a "Tarp Mahal" 😂.
With this being said we would often choose to not put a shelter up, favoring sleeping under the stars as often as possible. If it wasnt going to rain then what is the point of disrupting your pack and having the small amount of time you get in the evening and morning taken up with a redundant task. Especially if you might need to make a quick exit at any point!
The reason i mention this is because those days as an infantry man, carrying my house on my back through varying terrain and threat levels is the closest thing i can think of to a modern day adventurer in our world.
In the name of Australia, thank you for your service. And your experience helps to justify my thought experiment, so thank you for sharing. If I didn't have to use a tent, I wouldn't. Very practical advice!
I seem to recall that roman infantry carried tent quarters, and legions spent an inordinate amount of their day breaking camp, then making and fortifying a new one at the end of a day's march. English and American soldiers in the American revolutionary war wrote about sleeping in tents with as many as eight other soldiers, which provided quite a bit of warmth.
@@theprogram863 nothing like a cheeky snuggle with your brothers to keep you warm at night. I mean, we did have decent sleeping bags but I suppose if it got cold enough 😂. As the saying goes, when in Rome...
In a DnD game I recently included as loot an 8-room tent with a stove and chimney that folds into a size and weight of a standard bedroll.
That's some good loot!
... But it takes a DC30 Int roll to fold it back up ;)
@@davidhorgan368This comment almost made me choke on my morning cup of tea! Bravo!
Why not give them a fold-up Hilton Hotel complete with full staff?
So you need a hourse or donkey and cart just to carry that ha
I love watching The History Squad's videos, and I'm tickled that you linked them in this video. Will definitely give theirs a watch.
Sometime ago, there was a hunt for the city of 7 towers. Legend held that it was a large viberent tradding community that was swallowed up by the desert in a sandstorm. Whilst looking for a different city, archeologists found the foundations of 7 figured they found this lost city. What baffled them was there was no foundations outside of the towers. Then it dawned on them. The city was made of tents.
Wood is hard to come by in a desert. And stone isn't cheap. And I guess adobe can't be made everywhere.
@@kotarouinugami1745 Bone and rawhide tents was my guess, rather than canvas and wood
It’s pretty nice watching your channel grow. Keep it up, man.
Liked the new video style and hope it sticks around but I also hope the older one doesn’t go away
I'll end up having a mix of both I think, they serve very different purposes! Any videos like this take much longer to produce!
@@LivingAnachronism No doubt, but they effort shows. I loved especially the little detail of you coming out of the pictured tent in 3:02 ^^
Holy Production Value…well done Kramer! Glad to have you back!
Love the new style to this video and love seeing some new kit on you. Prehaps an updated ranger kit is around the corner?
There will probably be a couple updates in the very near future, I have this one, which is mostly what I use in my "Can you add detail to a costume" video, but I should be getting some new pieces in early march to play around with
I absolutely love all of your videos, and the production looks awesome with the new setup!
That was one of the coolest edits I've ever seen on a TH-cam video hands down! Amazing job! I think this was one of your best videos yet! Thanks for making great entertaining content!
Thank you so much!!
While not medieval European, i'm quite fond of nomadic and semi-nomadic cultures that leave seasonal dwellings unoccupied on the off season. Our heroes can find refuge and maybe even some provisions left in case someone needed shelter. Quieter than an inn but cozier than a tent or a cloak, just the kinda mood i love writing ^-^
You did an amazing job matching your lighting to your backgrounds. Fantastic video as always and the production is getting better and better!
This channel is amazing, the work put in to this is fantastic!
In many ways Kramer, you are an American Neil Oliver. He is a presenter on a series called Coast here in the UK and he also does a lot of programmes on Scottish history, have you heard of him? This comparison is probably the highest compliment I have ever given a TH-camr 👍 Keep up the good work 👍
I have, though more his political commentaries.
This is a very interesting video, and the production/editing is impressive. Well done!
Very lovely how you move around in the animations. Bet it took some time to syncronize it. Nice and clear work!
Great video!very informative and what a great production quality dude,keep up the good work.
This is the first of your videos I've seen and it was really interesting. And the graphics were great too!
I see you've gotten your hands on UE :) Solid work and it does A LOT to help with immersion and really upgrades the overall feeling of production value. Well done, good choices. I'm loving it!
Love the way you did the backgrounds and the photos!
Good video. I thru-hiked the Appalachian trail a few years back and while I carried a tent and often used it, I took advantage of shelters and hostels along the trail whenever I could.
Awesome video and great content. Good to see you back it the game!
I love this video! Excellently done. Adding proper perspective on how adventurers did and would find accommodation when travelling also provides many a potential story idea...
Wow, really the production quality is next level, didn't expect that.😮
And very informative and well presented as always.
Very good video. I'm seen some of your others, but this one takes the cake. And perfect timing, too, because I've been thinking about this stuff lately.
Been a while since I looked at this channel. Production quality has gone way up. Very nice.
Kramer, this was a great video and I can really see the effort you put into upping the production value. Good job!
Thank you!
I like the new format. It definitely gives you a wider range of background options. The narration flow also works well and adds to the storytelling. Great work!
Excellent job on UE5 man!! It looks great. Green screen integration spot on- it added so much to your presentation. Didn't feel cheesy or forced, just natural and fun. Way to go dude.
Great content. Huge production value. Good reading, good writing.
Amazing! This video goes into a lot of the questions I've had about medieval travel a long time! Furthermore, would you perhaps be interested in talking about travelling merchants and wagon/covered wagon alternatives?
Yes, I will cover...covered...wagons in a future video. I wanted to put them in this one, but I decided they deserved their own presentation
Amazing video! Quality was amazing! You did a great job. I’m looking forward to seeing more videos like this in the future to come!
Thanks! I think of got the hang of it now, it was a lot of work, but a lot of fun to produce, I really enjoy the process, so expect more videos like this for sure!
Awesome, I can’t wait to see what else you got planned!
Love the use of green screens! The production upgrade looks nice! Also, I may have said this before, but I *love* how hard you're going with your practical analysis on the medieval fantasy adventuring life. I'm actively taking notes for my own worldbuilding brainstorms
awesome stuff man🔥
love what you're doing✊
What a brilliant show! Thanks for your work! You might even enhance it a tiny notch more by adding small sound effects to enforce the illusion of different surroundings.
Awesome presentation, the increase in poduction quality is incredible.
Big, strong and fluffy dragon hug for all of you.
an item i had in a couple of campaigns (because one player was questioning the miniatures we where using) was a Tent of Holding. The tent can be set up or taken down regardless of whats inside, if set back up any items inside will be in the exact place you left them before as once packed up nothing inside can move at all. Setting up the tent is exhausting and will force the player to take a long rest regardless of energy level.
First time watcher. WOW is your production quality high! I'll be back for more.
Good to see you upload again it just hasn't been the same without your splendid content.
Love your backgrounds and how you interact with them.
Looved the description of where you were going to sleep at night and why. Good things to think about.
I had a small arming style tent when I was doing medieval reenactment. (Single pole pieced together in the middle with spokes to create walls) It worked really well and I could pack very small. It fit with poles into may small compact car trunk. I could easily see it fitting onto a pack animal. Only problem, I wanted to have help setting it up. Loved having a canvas tent. It was brighter, breathed better and roomier than a modern tent. Hung up clothes and used the spokes as rafter storage space.
A bit over a decade ago, I was swords instructor for a very small Historic European Martial Arts group when we invited a very much larger LARPing community to join us for a day of training and exposure to how these weapons were actually used. There were four times as many LARPers as there were of us yet we found enough training and live-steel swords to arm them all. At the end of the three-hour session, they were invited to return to our weekly training sessions if they wanted to learn more about how to fight with real swords, shields and spears.
None of them ever did.🙄
Kramer you have outdone yourself once again! You never seem to disappoint and are always finding new ways to improve the quality of the production and content you produce and we are here for it! Keep up the amazing work and thank you for this wonderfully informative video
In highlands, you can get by without tent or a tarp, with only a layer of insulation from the ground (cloak, blanket, or dry grass, or dry leaves) and something to keep you warm (cloak, blanket, sleeping bag), if you can find a cave, a hanging cliff, or something in between - that would protect you in the case of rain, if needs be.
The whole idea of adventuring is to travel light and only bring what you need or would fit on a small pack animal like a horse or donkey. In most cases a tent simply does not work, that's why a good cloak is an absolute must.
Well done, I remember in 2017 when I was walking to Spain. In the evening I had enough from the nature. I was happy to have a roof atop my head and glad to "leave" nature. Once I tried sleeping outside. It was Ok but I prefered a roof and a shower.
I always enjoy these thought experiments, and you put a lot of thought into them. And the production value was a cut above! thank you for your hard work!!
Thanks Grant!
Maybe adventurers would be regarded as unwholesome outcasts as well. After all, the idea of leaving the comfort of your home or village to fight monsters does not seem to be something historically anyone wanted.
at the same time we had famous explorer and even times where Noble would pay to lead a expedition to what ever was the new fancy.
be it Europeans (french, Germans, Brits) traveling to affrica to find the source of the Nile or what it now was.
also Knights was a think so I guess there was the ide of Professionalism a Sponsored adventure party sent by the King to find the tomb of Akilius would probably be seen more favorable then some peasants down on there luck setting out for some lost old ruins for gold.
I love when you do videos like this and the production is better than ever. I'm a big fan of the history squad's content and modern history tv as well.
KRAMER!!! This video is amazing! 😍You're kit is incredible, your setup is on point and the production quality was so pleasantly unexpected! I was saying "WOW" the whole video. I love the way you put the example footage on your wall in the back and then you went inside! It reminds me of shows like Reading Rainbow back in the day :D they did this kind of thing too. Excellent information and I don't know how you did this, but you hanging out in your examples was the coolest thing I've ever seen in a medieval video 😄 Keep up the amazing work Kramer. I'm loving watching your come up. I've been a sub for a long time and it's a pleasure watching you progress. God bless and good luck on your adventures!!!
One great reference for this subject is Fandabi Dozi's video about the Great Kilt and how it was used in the Scottish Highlands and how it (the kilt) was used as a survival tool.
The Irish cloak was similar for all- weather use, except that the outer side was "shaggy", basically worked to look like wool straight from the sheep, and kept that way by applying stiffening fixatives like honey or glue.
St. Bridget's Cloak in Belgium is one of the few surviving examples. It is dyed red.
Fantastic work Kramer - I lost it when you came out from that first tent! Loved the UE5 bit!
So glad I discovered you!
Great video, love the quality of your channel 👍🏻
Thank you Hrothgar!
The animation of the medieval tents is another impressive cinematic upgrade. Well done Kramer!
Dang video quality just went off the charts! Nice
The editing in this is so freaking COOL! You’ve outdone yourself🏹🗡️
Thank you!
I just started getting my stuff out for Ruby Joust in May. It's an SCA camp event. I want to make my tent from homegrown wood for the first time, so I have to get a jumpstart on it. We'll see if the whole thing flops over lol!
Great job on this one! I mean, all of your videos are great, but you can really tell that you went the extra mile on this one, and it was definitely worth the extra effort. Cheers mate!
Lots of First Nations people had portable tent systems, mostly designed around tarps. It helped to have pack animals for transport.
Love the new production style! Your editing skills are awesome!
Side note on pronouncing names in LotR - the stress usually falls on the second syllable, e.g. Pel-LEN-nor, instead of PELL-en-nor :)
Noted thank you!
Wow, this video is really good, especially the different takes and time-periods.
This is why the early editions of d&d had so many references to camp followers donkeys equipment etc. Four dudes are lucky to carry their fighting gear a tarp and a couple cooking pots
Great video :)
I love it when channels I like give shout outs to others.
Wow! That was an awesome video. You have really kicked it up a notch!
Excellent video Kramer. Being practical and light weight a oilskin or piece of a sail would make the most sense for those knowingly adventuring beyond the edges of society. Getting taken off course by what ever may come then the blanket and cloak would be the only option as well as the best place they could find.
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Thank you sir, this was just what the doctor ordered on the chilli Sunday evening. I trust you and yours are doing well. We will see you on the next adventure!
What an awesome video. Love it!
Great video, a lot of work went into this you can tell.
We can also look at the prehistoric period for (possible) tents and sleeping accomidations in the wild. From what we kniw, in many places our ancestors used hides, grass and mud for their huts, and they were left behind whenever the group left for a different location. So maybe in a fantasy setting, on top of inns and guest houses, there are "camp sites" in lsss frequently traveled areas with the basics or a camp, and the adventurer can just fix it up a little and use it in a pinch
usually the animal-hyde tents and bivies were left there as the Cro-Magnons would leave the camp behind;
But just occasionally, someof these hydes might be further modded into new articlesof clothing as some previously worn buckskin coat was approaching the end of its service life. Then with the newly fashioned garment in use at the last minute, Tarzan & friends would begin the next day of their journey...
Excellent production quality on this video! Wow. Well done 🤩
Thanks!
Wow! Incredible production value! I totally agree with you on the tent aspect. Even camping a good hundred years ago wouldn't have seen as much tent use. Bedrolls were much more common and were little more than a wool blanket you rolled yourself up in. Wool blankets would have likely been carried by adventurers, and folded right you can use them like a backpack to contain your things. Back then, prolonged damp and moist was a sure way to get sick, so finding a heated and dry place to warm up and dry out was essential for good health.
The Union Army during the American Civil War included a single heavyweight all-wool blanket that would be folded in half, tightly rolled to the diameter of a coffee can, and strapped into place at the top of a soldier's total pack load. So you got it exactly right, and that's actual American war history talking!
Really cool use of the green screens, also quite good insight of true medieval traveling. Now really understand why exploring wasn't that much of a thing then unless great resouces where involved
Kramer the production quality is top notch!
2 things.
1. I think in liturature we see that when travelling people would plan to make it to said inn, tavern ex by the end of each day of travel and when they could not make it then you rolled up in a cloak under a tree with maybe a bed roll and cold camped.
2 when I served in the 2nd battalion RCR we would rock a bivy bag and a small tarp. If the chance of rain was low then it was sleeping in your bivy (air mattress and sleeping bag inside the bivy) it’s low profile fast to set up and fast to break camp. If you are responsible for carrying everything you are going to need for potentially 3 week remember ounces = pounds and pounds = pain
Once again I love you content keep up the great work
Great video. I like the idea of there being an 'adventuring season' when travel off the beaten track is practical, vs the off season when it is too cold and wet (or too hot and dry) to be practical. It builds downtime into a campaign, and makes threats that have to be dealt with out of season more dangerous because of the environmental concerns.
Amazing video. This is the type of video inwant to see.
HUGE production improvements on this video! Very impressive!
Great presentation.
Thanks i needed this today 9 o'clock at night for the book I've been working all day on. Then i remembered you put a video on this topic earlier.
That was a really neat way of showing the different styles of tents! I very much enjoyed this style of video! Great work! 👏👏😄😄
Thanks Ranger!
This is an excellent video, great production quality too, whats empowered the upgrade? new team? software? re travel, ive often had characters with pack donkeys or packgoats to carry tents, and sometimes carts or wagons....
I can't wait for you to reach 100k subs!
You and me both!
I started with a 12ft x 8ft Campaign tent. I now have a 22ft x 12 ft Burgundian. There's no 'quick pack down' here 😆 It takes me and my Household about 2 hours to get the tents and awnings up, and about 4 hours to set dress. But we can go from full camp to bare grass in about 2 1/2 hours. We had one of our chaps try the 'cloak thrown over two stakes and a pole arm' for a night. He didn't like it much 🤣 Love your content by the way
So a couple of years ago I started trying to do the same thing. Simulate Medieval Camping in order to understand what the players in my game would be going through in the elements. As I went along I was inspired by the Military Poncho that doubles as a tent and ended up making a Canvas Cloak. It was functionable, warm in the cool climate I live in, and was easily big enough when not being worn to tent up with my Walking stick and stones to hold the bottom down. All and all it makes an extremely viable option for an realistic adventuring "tent" with a Medieval feel.
Great Video!
I would recommend Townsend for ideas on camping, especially with the long hunters. A simple oiled canvas can be made to make a lean too.