My favorite racing series ever will always be the Group B rally and the Can-Am sports cars. Such amazing machines, fearless drivers, very few rules. Could never do it now, but I'm happy they did it then
Group B will always be the best and most insane era of rallying to ever exist. Pretty much the only reason why WRC cars are faster than Group B is because they have better grip. Tire technology wasn't as good in the 80's as it is now, and if both Group B and WRC cars had the same grip, the WRC cars would probably be obliderated by the Group B ones. If you compare the numbers, the Group B cars are in many cases several hundred kilograms lighter than the WRC ones, and they have WAY more power, some Group B cars have upwards of almost DOUBBLE the power of WRC cars, plus the fact that many Group B cars were mid-engined which gives a better weight distribution and is better for racing than the front-engine layout used in WRC cars. So to sum it all up: On paper the Group B cars should be way faster than the WRC cars, with the only limiting factor being that the tires the Group B cars were using had less grip than tires have today.
Let's face it I think most Rally fans that remember group B will have very fond memories of it I certainly do, but looking purely at which is faster Group B or WRC it's going to be WRC. Group B cars were running at 350-550 BHP and now the Ford Puma WRC is running 550bhp with 40 years of technical advances on all areas of the car so these will be faster by far.
Hello Chris. Yes, You are right concerning what cars are better, but... You are tooo young, to have seen those fire spitting monsters, for example in 1000 Lakes Rally in Finland! 180 km/h, sideways on gravel, with meter long fire, out from exhaust pipes. And the sound, pounding your body. Boy, you felt it in your bones, they were shattering inside you. As a ret. rally driver myself, I would have given my right .., well, let`s not go there. Those, who were there, during those crazy years, will never forget. But as said, everything comes with a price tag. What I never will forgive, is those idiots in Italy, Corse, and other, southern rallies, those dorks contributed, to the demise of the era. They stood on the road, in the "blind" corners! Trying to touch a car, driving by in 150+ km/h! Ok, it was not only roses and candy, those cars were also death traps, so, bygone is bygone, but, what a cars! from a Finn in Diaspora
En un Hillclimb com Pikes Peak un Grupo B es mucho mas rapido que un Rally1, pero en las especiales del rally de hoy dia gana el Rally1 por lejos. Kankkunen probo un Rally1 y dijo que acelera menos que el 205 T16 e2, pero que es mucho mas rapido en las curvas
Group B was and always will be the pinnacle of true rally imo. Not banned because of sketchy class regulations but because of idiot spectators. S1 Quattro and ford rs200 are 2 of my all time favorite racing cars, not to mention the rs200 Evo pikes peak
My favorite racing series ever will always be the Group B rally and the Can-Am sports cars. Such amazing machines, fearless drivers, very few rules. Could never do it now, but I'm happy they did it then
WRC cars: Speed, Grip, Safety
Group B: Power, Madness, BALLS
WRC today is fascinating for sure. Top speed of 200 is more than enough on most stages!
Chris, Group B was nuts and the people were too close to the streets.
But the insanity was how they sounded and the power they had!
Cheers 👍💪✌
Group B will always be the best and most insane era of rallying to ever exist. Pretty much the only reason why WRC cars are faster than Group B is because they have better grip. Tire technology wasn't as good in the 80's as it is now, and if both Group B and WRC cars had the same grip, the WRC cars would probably be obliderated by the Group B ones. If you compare the numbers, the Group B cars are in many cases several hundred kilograms lighter than the WRC ones, and they have WAY more power, some Group B cars have upwards of almost DOUBBLE the power of WRC cars, plus the fact that many Group B cars were mid-engined which gives a better weight distribution and is better for racing than the front-engine layout used in WRC cars. So to sum it all up: On paper the Group B cars should be way faster than the WRC cars, with the only limiting factor being that the tires the Group B cars were using had less grip than tires have today.
Great video thanks
Let's face it I think most Rally fans that remember group B will have very fond memories of it I certainly do, but looking purely at which is faster Group B or WRC it's going to be WRC. Group B cars were running at 350-550 BHP and now the Ford Puma WRC is running 550bhp with 40 years of technical advances on all areas of the car so these will be faster by far.
Hello Chris.
Yes, You are right concerning what cars are better, but...
You are tooo young, to have seen those fire spitting monsters, for example in 1000 Lakes Rally in Finland! 180 km/h, sideways on gravel, with meter long fire, out from exhaust pipes. And the sound, pounding your body.
Boy, you felt it in your bones, they were shattering inside you.
As a ret. rally driver myself, I would have given my right .., well, let`s not go there.
Those, who were there, during those crazy years, will never forget.
But as said, everything comes with a price tag. What I never will forgive, is those idiots in Italy, Corse, and other, southern rallies, those dorks contributed, to the demise of the era.
They stood on the road, in the "blind" corners!
Trying to touch a car, driving by in 150+ km/h!
Ok, it was not only roses and candy, those cars were also death traps, so, bygone is bygone, but, what a cars!
from a Finn in Diaspora
En un Hillclimb com Pikes Peak un Grupo B es mucho mas rapido que un Rally1, pero en las especiales del rally de hoy dia gana el Rally1 por lejos. Kankkunen probo un Rally1 y dijo que acelera menos que el 205 T16 e2, pero que es mucho mas rapido en las curvas
Group B was and always will be the pinnacle of true rally imo. Not banned because of sketchy class regulations but because of idiot spectators.
S1 Quattro and ford rs200 are 2 of my all time favorite racing cars, not to mention the rs200 Evo pikes peak
It not rally racing, it's rallying
Ford Puma WRC 2023 has 500 hp.too.
Group b all day long