Alto Professional Stealth Wireless Pro System

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  • @FHOHNIC
    @FHOHNIC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered this set up strictly because of your video THANK YOU. and the secret code worked got it for 135 less than on Amazon.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you love the unit. For the price they work great. Remember these are completely environmental so be sure to scan every time and get them high with line of site. I always choose to run an XLR cable when possible,
      but sometimes we don’t have a choice and these are a good option when wireless is needed.

    • @shumphertholbertii5147
      @shumphertholbertii5147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Outstanding review! I’m looking to purchase. What’s the secret code word?

  • @howiedarkstar
    @howiedarkstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very well done Rachel. Dotty is adorable "I don't want to be in this video....you have a million songs why are you playing the same song over and over and over and over".... lol

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Howie Darkstar she wanted to murder me after the week was over. 🤣🤣

    • @howiedarkstar
      @howiedarkstar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch lol

  • @bigtsentertainment
    @bigtsentertainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just recently received this unit and so far LOVING it!! I did however learn the hard way not to turn off the main receiver before turning off the remote one first. I was at my wedding this weekend and turned off the remote receiver about 100 ft away and a loud white noise came out till i turned it back on. That definitely is still a thing :)

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you’re loving it! 🙌🏻 It’s a good unit! It’s odd that I didn’t experience that when I unplugged mine. I’ll definitely heed the warning.

    • @masterpdj2623
      @masterpdj2623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Raise you SQ to a little higher number like 3 or 4 sounds like you have yours on 1 or 2. This video made me go back and really under Squelch and now my system is incredible. But for while there I couldn't trust it because my SQ was at 1 or 2 picking up everything even when you scan it had trouble finding a clear ch (It's your SQ). I even sent it in for repair thinking something was wrong with my 2+2 extender packs I own but it was the SQ all along set too low. I'm back in love with ALTO Stealth Pro

  • @karaokehowie
    @karaokehowie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Rachel, Your mom always has a great cameo in your videos. I just purchased an Alto Stealth Pro from Ben at NFLX excited to try it out. Thanks again. Howie in Omaha, NE

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! I’ll tell her you said Hi! ☺️ She puts up with a lot of nonsense. We love her. Best of luck with your new unit. 👌🏻

  • @arjr422
    @arjr422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that system and it DOES have a HORRIBLE noise if it loses power. I had to adjust the squelch to ALMOST the point of cutting out the sound..then back it down slightly. Also I tested the system with it from my garage into the far end of my house...I did in fact get some static. I used it at a event and didn’t have an issue with it. I have my transmitter mounted in a rack in my dj booth. I had to move it down a space from my Shure BLX4R receiver because it did interfere with it. Over all happy with my purchase. I just had to learn and test it to get the proper set-up.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely need to dial it in. But it works well, especially for the price. I will always run a cable when I can, but sometimes we don’t have a choice. There are completely environmental so results may vary. That’s odd, I didn’t get a static noise when it lost power. I haven’t experienced that.

  • @DavidOxford606
    @DavidOxford606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic review, Rachel! You went to a lot of trouble and set up all those scenarios for us - kudos! The only thing I would've liked to have seen would be a visual of each receiver, in their various locations during your demonstration, to gauge the signal strength at the different distances and through the various obstructions. I just purchased this unit, along with the expansion kit (with 2 additional receivers) so your video will be very helpful. Thanks again!

  • @herculesentertainment9325
    @herculesentertainment9325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW!! You just gave me a perfect resolve to a huge issue I needed to resolve with a wireless system...

  • @shawnhammond5237
    @shawnhammond5237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video!....Just a word of caution, I just recently purchased the Alto Stealth Pro unit and according to their website you are supposed to receive in the box Padded Zipper Bags for the transmitter and both receivers. In addition you are supposed to get the BNC front panel antenna connectors and the BNC cable extensions so you can mount antennas on front rack. None of these items I mentioned were included in my new Stealth Pro unit. It appears from watching your video that you did not receive them either, please correct me if I'm wrong. I've emailed Alto support hoping they will ship these items.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shawn Hammond I was not aware of this! Thank you very much for this. Keep me posted!

    • @chicagolatindjs6819
      @chicagolatindjs6819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did not receive those items that you mentioned either, I also sent Alto an email, see what happens.

    • @EyeBDaMD
      @EyeBDaMD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever receive them

  • @pnnielsen
    @pnnielsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An even less obtrusive piggyback cable is the Truetone ACY-US that hooks up directly between the speaker and the original IEC power cable of the speaker and provides an outlet for the power adapter. (One of the venues I perform at provides speakers and they hook up the power - in this case the piggyback cables in the video would be very inconvenient since it would require me to mess with their power wiring that's already in place).

  • @Jamminn555
    @Jamminn555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes love between a mother and daughter is expressed a little differently, ok?? "Get outta here." LOL Awesome review and test, Rachel. Thank you for this!!

  • @vjyoukai
    @vjyoukai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Finally Got This, Upgraded from the Older Version. Sooo Much Better. Your Awesome Review Made Me Get it. Well Both Version of your Videos Made Me Got Both. But I Totally Love This Version. Thank you for Reviewing This. :)

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This version is MUCH better than the previous one. Glad they made the upgrade. It’s not a perfect solution but it does well. Glad you’re getting good use out of it.

    • @vjyoukai
      @vjyoukai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch Yes it does it PERFECTLY for my Use. :)

  • @aarontimberlake
    @aarontimberlake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate you video. One thing though with the static test. YES! there can be static when the tx is off. It kicks in after a few minutes. beware. Although this model is leagues ahead of the first series.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking this out and the feedback about the static. I’ve never experienced it but I have people tell me they have. I’m not sure why that is. I couldn’t agree more, while it’s not a perfect unit it’s miles better than the first rendition. 💯

  • @soundgineering4771
    @soundgineering4771 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great coverage of the item and the details...what tie pin microphones did you use to record your video sound coverage? Is it a condenser, omnidirectional mic? and what was the gain level you set on it? I am impressed with the coverage of the sound by those mics. Thanks.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I highly recommend the Hollyland mics. That’s what I’m using now.
      amzn.to/3TCUOV1

  • @MrNightro
    @MrNightro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where I think Alto fell short in this package deal is they give the option to front mount the receiver antennae onto the rack mount bracket but they don't include the extension BNC cable to allow you to do so. I'm still upgrading to the Stealth Pro though as I already have the original Alto Stealth as well as the Alto Total. I just think that for the price this unit sells for and the fact that the brackets are already designed to mount the antennae that the extension cables should be included.

    • @TheCovenantChild
      @TheCovenantChild ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm currently dealing with this. I'm not sure what BNC extension kit to get 😕

  • @kkmusic607
    @kkmusic607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your Mom is adorable! Thanks for the detailed review - great job!

  • @theluvlounge
    @theluvlounge ปีที่แล้ว

    This was extremely helpful for me! I have been looking to upgrade from the Alto Stealth because I have had so many gigs where the signal was horrible when I set up speakers in different rooms. This is my next purchase. Thanks

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      Check this out first. The Alto Stealth Pro works well for the price but there are better options like the one shown here using the Sennheiser body packs. If budget isn’t an issue consider these instead.
      th-cam.com/video/pfcaP3ZvnZI/w-d-xo.html

  • @masterpdj2623
    @masterpdj2623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been waiting on this things for years. Got mines a month ago and it works great as long you find a clear channel.

  • @djbobbyg8911
    @djbobbyg8911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review and thank you for taking the time to do this! It's truly appreciated.
    Just in case Alto Professional follows feedback on your presentation: I am a full-time professional and own a number Alto Products and have been very pleased with them; they have performed well. I have been also been considering acquiring these for all of our PA Systems for quite some time, but I am concerned because there seems to be a blackout on user reviews on this PRO-2 Version of across the web. Perhaps Alto Professional could help us, as much as you have, by either backing this with a published rock-solid return/exchange policy, publishing real-time customer feedback and what they are doing to resolve issues, and/or by providing us some additional information to set aside our concerns.
    Again, thank you Rachel and Best Wishes! BobbyG

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for taking the time to watch this and comment about your experience. I think it is VERY important that companies like ALTO seek out feedback as you have. I can attest that this product is NOT perfect, but as you said they do perform very well especially for the price point. I had trouble myself looking for "solutions" to improve these. Through trial and error, I kind of just figured it out. I will ALWAYS run a cable if possible, but these have helped me out a ton in a lot of complicated DJ setups. Thanks so much for stopping by the channel!

  • @djmidnightwolf
    @djmidnightwolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this is the type of review I like. Looks like I will need to pick this up for my new speakers.

  • @masterpdj2623
    @masterpdj2623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rachel Thanks again for this old video, I was about to give up on my ALTO Stealth Pro system until I came back and looked at your QS part of this video. I had mines on 1 way to low or tight for my venues. Around 3 or 4 is perfect even 2 at some locations. About where do you kind of keep your numbers on your squelch (1-10)? Thanks

  • @DJNateNYC
    @DJNateNYC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as always. Keep up the good work

  • @petebull8233
    @petebull8233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just thought I'd throw this in the mix.....I just bought two sets of VAM c977 (cheap China) at $75 a set Mic/guitar adaptors on Amazon they sound great. I tried a remote speaker in my garage I'm in my basement so lost line of site a few times and they sound great run on 2.4

  • @thegamingboi8163
    @thegamingboi8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this review. I chose to go with the pro as the 1st version had some limits with multiple floor venues in my experience.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The pro is a much better unit than the first-gen. It's not perfect but works great for the price.

  • @MrTomb1976
    @MrTomb1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this video, was looking into buying this system for this wedding season and maybe building it into my case permanently, make set up quicker.

  • @davestasts1173
    @davestasts1173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having worked in the professional sound field for over 36 years keep in mind that your relying on a RF signal in a remote residential area when using the transmitter to the receiver at great distance. When you get into a area that has a high level of RF from wifi to cell service and other UHF wireless systems it could possibly become a issue. Other than that it seems to work well.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. There are COMPLETELY environmental. They work well. They are perfect but for the price point they do a good job. 🙂

  • @jambuusa1
    @jambuusa1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for sharing the video. great explanation with all my questions answered. Thank you!

  • @showmak
    @showmak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the video. Is there a cheaper option for home and small party use?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For multiple speakers. Not that I’m aware of. Or at least not that I would feel comfortable recommending. If you’re just looking to make a powered speaker Bluetooth capable you could use the Alto BAT which is only $40 or so dollars.

  • @tiffncoreybk7105
    @tiffncoreybk7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rachel - thank you for making these videos. They have helped me to improve my djing and the equipment I use.
    I did purchase the Alto Stealth Professional and it works great, however, there are times when I will press the scan button and it just scans and scans…. Have you come across this issue? If so did you find a solve? Also have you ever set up your system and during the event had it start popping and giving interference? Every now and agin this will happen.

  • @tonyjefford8449
    @tonyjefford8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Rachel great video. Do you need separate receivers if your using subs many thanks. Tony

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tony Jefford If I understand your question correctly, you’re asking how to connect the receiver pack when using a top and a sub?
      Most DJs are just linking tops and subs, this would be no different than just running a cable from your mixer... except.. no cable!
      Thanks for stopping by the channel. 🙂

    • @tonyjefford8449
      @tonyjefford8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch thanks so I guess it would be XLR out of receiver into sub then out of sub into tops? Is that correct.
      Thanks for your time.
      Great channel by the way

  • @locochonloco
    @locochonloco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm ordering one today, thanks for the great review.

  • @queenreginarice
    @queenreginarice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video. I shoot videos in my home in different rooms and this would be perfect. Thanks for the demo.

  • @yescasalfonso8232
    @yescasalfonso8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that last test with close proximity use of mics was cool, can't wait to see them out at gig

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yescas Alfonso it’s always a concern for DJs. I get it. Scanning and squelch will be your best friend.

  • @sonidosoundwaves
    @sonidosoundwaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video Rachel, that was l was looking for, for my satellite speaker that l use for outdoor. You are a good seller! 😂 Have a great and happy Thanksgiving

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have a great holiday! Thanks for checking this out. Hope the unit is exactly what you need.

  • @brianpark5117
    @brianpark5117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always your videos are always great! Lots of information and very detailed. Can’t wait to see gig log with them in use as well.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brian Park thanks so much for checking it out. I like to make sure people understand what they are buying. Unfortunately due to the weather in time of year I wasn’t able to bring these out to a outdoor gig and test them but I tried my best locally. I’ve used the previous ones at an event and they worked well. These are MUCH better with the mentioned upgrades.

  • @starsradio9556
    @starsradio9556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great product review thank you and keep up the great work.

  • @allengallegos7238
    @allengallegos7238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m always skeptical about “wireless “especially when you are testing without any other wireless mics connected (as I will), 150+ cellphones, 1200 hotel guests and other signals up for competition. Impressive when you are testing in a rural environment with no extra signals to compete with. 100 foot XLR cable helps me concentrate on the music without any worries of clips or drops.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allen Gallegos a wired option is ALWAYS a better option but sometimes we don’t have a choice. This is an affordable option for a wireless solution. There are better (more expensive) alternative out there, but it does the job. It is miles better than the previous version.

  • @carlgoyal58
    @carlgoyal58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That alto wireless works great, no drop outs…thats why your mom drops you out in her room..lol …love this portion when your mom react..hahaha..nice video,..

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad to hear you’re having success with the unit! They have definitely helped me out a few times in a pinch when running a wire just wasn’t possible.
      Mom wanted to kill me! She was listening to that song all day. 😊

  • @mistacoo
    @mistacoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful review. Thanks!

  • @drdjmb66
    @drdjmb66 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sooooo much for this video. So how did the sound in actual dj event with all the people around the system?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve always had a good experience with this unit. Keep in mind they are environmental. They may work amazing in one spot and have interference issues in another venue. Always best to scan, keep them high, with line of sight. Overall very helpful unit when running a wire isn’t an option.

  • @georgethedj4946
    @georgethedj4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. Just watched your Xmas video where you are using the Sennheiser. Both look like they get the job done. I assume you still have both available to you? Would love to hear a comparison of the two and which one is your go to and why.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ALTO STEALTH Pro works great for the price, but there are better options out there hence the Sennheiser EW 100 G4 (which is double the cost). For weddings or events where I only need one speaker, I’ll use the Sennheiser. If I need multiple speakers out like a car show or some thing the alto works well. 🙂 It really boils down to what’s in your budget and how many speakers do you need to be wireless. I always try to run a wire if I can.

    • @georgethedj4946
      @georgethedj4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch Thanks. I really appreciate your advise. 😎

  • @user8002
    @user8002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. I've been using these for years. Never a problem.

    • @pmarszalek123
      @pmarszalek123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      200 ft ok? How about delay?

    • @user8002
      @user8002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pmarszalek123 Never a problem, as long as they’re line of sight, you’re fine.

  • @Bp-sk2bq
    @Bp-sk2bq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was hoping they would have made the new one with a rechargeable battery. It’s great if you have power but if your using a battery powered speaker at a ceremony or as a fill in reception hall defeats the purpose of said battery powered speaker. Having to having access to power. I will just keep using my xvive u3

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sure it is to keep the price point down. It’s a happy medium between affordable and function. There are better wireless battery powered options out there but they are much more expensive unfortunately.

    • @masterpdj2623
      @masterpdj2623 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch you can also buy battery packs these days for hardly nothing

  • @djdannybhtx
    @djdannybhtx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video Rachel! thinking of picking this up myself. I'm guessing like all other wireless receivers, you should scan at the location in which the receiver will be and then bring them to the transmitter and sync or pair them correct? What do you find yourself setting the volume on the transmitter and receivers to be set on? Thanks again!

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for checking this out. I appreciate you stopping by the channel. ☺️
      I do a clean scan at every event. There have been a few times when I have had to make adjustments during the event. These are completely environmental so you need to make sure these are dialed in at all times. Get them high and use direct line of site as much as possible.
      Turn on your loudspeaker, adjust the output level on your mixer, and adjust the Trim controls on the transmitter to hear the audio signal. If you hear noise in the signal, change to a different channel until a clean signal comes through.
      As for my volume settings, it’s hard to tell because I use several different controllers and speaker types depending on the event these are needed. I always dial them in each time so I can’t recall an exact personal setting. I also haven’t used them in a year so... 😅😂🤷🏼‍♀️
      Stay well. Stay safe!

    • @djdannybhtx
      @djdannybhtx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Oh wow! thanks so much for all of the input Rachel! keep up the great work!

    • @djking_237
      @djking_237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch so the transmitter gotta be as high up as the receivers? What kind of adjustments did you have to make mid event?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djking_237 it doesn’t have to be as high but having good line of sight will give you a better result. Since these are completely environmental you’ll have to make adjustments as necessary depending on the venue or location.

    • @djdannybhtx
      @djdannybhtx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Hi Rachel, did you ever do another test on the power loss? I sent you a video with me doing the same thing and I got horrible white noise hiss if you remember. Not sure why it's different for you. :(

  • @ptr250
    @ptr250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any plans for battery powered receivers? Lots of battery powered PA systems. It would be nice to be able to place them anywhere without any cables.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m not sure but there are other great battery powered options out there.

  • @headshotheroes2618
    @headshotheroes2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Review Rachel. Few questions.
    1. How is it on Windy Conditions. I had problems with my Old Stealth when it was outside of store and it was pretty windy. I was getting alot of drop outs.
    2. The XLR Cable that connects from the Receiver to Speaker the connector to the receiver is different from the previous model. It's not straight XLR. And it looks short. Is it ok to attach another xlr to make it longer? If the something goes wrong with that cable.. Will I be able to replace it easily. I want to get a back up cable just in case.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HeadShot Heroes I’m not sure if it’s a coincidence but to my understanding of how UHF works, wind would not effect it in any. Either way, it was a breezy day using these and as you saw everything worked great. 🙂
      It is a different cable. It’s a XLR mini to XLR. If you mount it to the speaker with the Velcro or the fly point bolt it’s enough length. However I don’t see why you couldn’t daisychain an extra cable if you needed it to be longer.
      If you end up purchasing it I hope you love it. 🙂

    • @headshotheroes2618
      @headshotheroes2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch the reason why it's short is that I have an Evolve 50 and I place the transmitter on the very top and the sub where you connect the XLR wayyy on the bottom. The previous model is short also... But I didn't worry cause I had spare xlrs to reach it.

    • @headshotheroes2618
      @headshotheroes2618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynchSo it's about Standard MiniXLR then? Not Proprietary?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HeadShot Heroes correct.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HeadShot Heroes ahhhhh. Got ya. Makes sense for the Evolve.

  • @bucky45068
    @bucky45068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will have to invest In this I just started DJing 1 1/2 years ago

  • @DjJoeKhoury
    @DjJoeKhoury 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I usually setup two subs and two tops near me with wires. There are bigger weddings where I would like to set up two more speakers on the other side of the room. How would I go about setting that up? Use the booth outputs to go to the wireless system? Is delay an issue ?

  • @sea4567
    @sea4567 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! (as usual). My only question is, are the receivers waterproof or water resistance? How do you protect them from the elements, especially if it suddenly rains?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To my knowledge there is no IP rating. But in reality if they are getting wet, so is your speaker. Nobody should be using any of their audio gear in a wet environment. So you’d do the same thing for these as you would your speakers if it stated to rain… protect them.

  • @27aceron
    @27aceron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rachel. Question about the alto professional stealth wireless pro system and no pro. Which you recommend to buy on this unit? Because you already used both. Please let me know. Thanks

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean by no pro? The Alto Stealth Pro version is much better than the first one. The upgrades allows you to dial it in better the best result. There are better options than this but they are much more expensive. This works very well for its price point.

    • @27aceron
      @27aceron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch what I meant is that one is called wireless and the other is pro wireless. thank you very much for your help

  • @ludwigalvarezhouseofgroove7116
    @ludwigalvarezhouseofgroove7116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant review!

  • @1973djmarc
    @1973djmarc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, I guess I’m safe ... I haven’t had any problems with the wireless since I bought it (so far)

  • @djshortylove
    @djshortylove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🔥🔥 Awesome review!!! I’m sold! 🤣😍🙏🏾

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      This video is a bit older. There are better options out now. I HIGHLY recommend the Sennhesier EW 112 packs. Check out my other video on my ceremony system.

    • @djshortylove
      @djshortylove ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch did you experience any issues with this system. I just received mine. I already ordered before I saw your reply.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djshortyloveit worked very well for me. Line of site is VERY important here. It’s a very environmentally sensitive unit so results may vary venue to venue, but overall it was a solid option. As I said there is better technology available since this unit came out so I sold this and upgraded but this should work well for you.

  • @ClydeMorrisMusic
    @ClydeMorrisMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant demo!

  • @BIGBLACKHUSH
    @BIGBLACKHUSH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video I’m gonna get it. How do I get the secret code for special price?

  • @ydubey108
    @ydubey108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks I use alto pro it does cuts but thanks Rachel I have bought many products from your recommendation

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      These like many other products are completely environmental. Make sure you’re always scanning for a clean channel, getting them high and good line of site. They are perfect but for the price they work well. Best of luck! Thanks for stopping by the channel. ☺️

  • @iambobby3537
    @iambobby3537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually have a good eye, but can't seem to see the "secret code word" unless it was that little logo that slid over in the lower corner. :(

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      E-mail me at DJRachel@me.com and I tell you it. :)

  • @aiinvestor3737
    @aiinvestor3737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Racheal can you use this alto wireless system to be powered from the Everse 8 battery speaker. And if not, what is a better way to do using the everse8 13 volt power
    I want to connect two separate speakers without wiring

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch this! 😉
      th-cam.com/video/pfcaP3ZvnZI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=16IKmiJL9T7aZWjF

  • @TheCovenantChild
    @TheCovenantChild ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone rack-mounted one of these? I'm trying to do that, but I want the antennae in front. I don't know what antenna extension cables / kit to get ...

  • @tonyhicks444
    @tonyhicks444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello question, if you are running subwoofers. With your tops do you need additional transmitters. To get a signal from the subs.

  • @liberospadaccino
    @liberospadaccino 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rachel, great video! Can you please explain where do you connect the alto xlr into the mixer? From the moment that i have only 2 mains (L&R) that go from the mixer to speakers, i diden't understand how and where to connect the alto wireless.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please rewatch the video at 8:00 minutes. I literally show to connect it to a controller/mixer.

    • @liberospadaccino
      @liberospadaccino 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Hi Rachel, Just to inform you that after a few days of research of the product here in Italy, it seems that this item is out of production. That's what there saying here. Impossibile to buy. Have you any updates? thanks v m. take care

  • @pmarszalek123
    @pmarszalek123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about Delay ??? 0.5 secunds??? Please let me know

  • @pedropolanco2617
    @pedropolanco2617 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rachel excellent video, how can I connect a subwoofer to the wireless system?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You hook up your subs as your normally but instead of running your XLR out of your controller/mixer to the speakers, you connect the Alto Base and then connect the packs as shown.

  • @alexhlushko69
    @alexhlushko69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good and helpful stuff ! Thank You !

  • @lonestarmoparmafia105
    @lonestarmoparmafia105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rachel... big fan here. One question, did you test for lag?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no noticeable lag. There will obviously be a delay with speakers placed very far a part. Some speakers have a delay setting (like the Evolve 50) to compensate for this. This will happen regardless of using a wireless option if far enough apart. 🙂

  • @hotrodpreacher7386
    @hotrodpreacher7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. Very good!!!!

  • @scottmuir9347
    @scottmuir9347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Rachel, Love your videos! Question, I currently have the older Alto wireless system, but like many others you have to work with it and have the line of sight just right to make them work. It’s a little more work, but I make ‘em work. Interested in upgrading. Your opinion .... the New Alto Pro or something like the Senheiser XSW-D?
    Little about me, I’m a single operator, Wedding DJ mostly, about 75% of the time I need to set up extra speakers to cover sound for cocktail hour and dinner. Usually run the Alto wireless through my booth out, so when the dancing starts, I can turn them off from my controller.
    Appreciate your time and opinion.
    Scott MUIR
    MUIR MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry for the delay! I just saw this comment now. This is a BIG upgrade from the previous version you have. I haven’t used the Sennhesier system you mentioned but I do feel my EW100 G4 blows this out of the water but again the price point with both units isn’t really fair. The Sennhesier EW100 is a $600 single mic and double the price. If you like your stealth and are making it work I think the upgrade would be a good move for you.

    • @scottmuir9347
      @scottmuir9347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Rachel,
      I was thinking the same thing. With the Stealth Pro, I can do the same as I’ve been doing with the older version of the Alto wireless system. The price is high, and it will be an investment, but it will make my job, that much easier.
      Thanks for getting back to me.

  • @yescasalfonso8232
    @yescasalfonso8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dang that is awesome,...when you going to take it out to an event to see that video...

  • @thekennyfiesta
    @thekennyfiesta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rachel, almost three years on...would you still use these? I was about to buy a few more Sennheiser EW-D receivers and bodypacks, but this seems more convenient, as the unit with the display and controls would be at the booth with me.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These work well for the price. If budget isn’t an issue I would recommend the Sennhesier units as they are a more premium wireless solution. But if you need something more budget minded, this is a good option even 3 years later.

    • @thekennyfiesta
      @thekennyfiesta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch I'm always grateful for your answers. I think I'll go with the body pack + EW-D for now.

  • @tfortson1
    @tfortson1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alto Professional Stealth Wireless pro or alto mkii wireless system which is best, which is the latest and what's the difference?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pro is a better model, but I think it's been discontinued. However, what I showed in this link below is your best option.
      th-cam.com/video/pfcaP3ZvnZI/w-d-xo.html

  • @djdannybhtx
    @djdannybhtx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rachel, have you had the opportunity to fully test this out at a gig with bodies occupying a room yet?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DJ DANNY B Yes. 🙂 Works very well. Get it high and scan the channels for the open frequency. Remember these are completely environmental. So it could work perfect in one venue and need adjusting in another. I only use these when I need multiple wireless speakers, otherwise I use my Sennheiser ew100.

    • @djdannybhtx
      @djdannybhtx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch sweet thank you! I too use the Sennheiser system, but so glad to see that Alto finally re-released the Stealth Pro. Thanks again! :)

  • @homelaferrara1776
    @homelaferrara1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:36 i love that song ayy

  • @djjerryg_soundexpressenter5874
    @djjerryg_soundexpressenter5874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello very informative video I was looking for something just like this. What is their website I tried typing in NLFX And could not find their website. Thank you very much

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gerard Ciani thanks so much for watching!
      Sure do! www.nlfxpro.com/alto-stealth-pro/

    • @djjerryg_soundexpressenter5874
      @djjerryg_soundexpressenter5874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I’m gonna email you too. To get the secret code. I watched video twice and it’s mind boggling I can’t locate the code.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gerard Ciani 🤣 No problem. Djrachel@me.com

    • @onekcmofo
      @onekcmofo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will this work on a Sub

  • @djjbsmuve346
    @djjbsmuve346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. Hood job👍👍

  • @benelfeo283
    @benelfeo283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats a huge house. Great test too.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for stopping by the channel!!

  • @mocutz
    @mocutz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you know what's the differnece between the Alto Professional Stealth MKII-UHF and the pro verison. The pro is $700 and you really can't find. Great video by the way!

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do not recommend the MK2 at all. It is a down grade.
      Truthfully,this video is old and there are much better options available. 🙂

    • @mocutz
      @mocutz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DJRachelLynch would you still recommend the pro? What newer models do you feel are just as good as the one you were using in the video.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mocutzI think it’s discontinued anyway. But no, at this point I’d say utilize the great new options that are now available. 🙂

  • @notdjtrellmixx
    @notdjtrellmixx ปีที่แล้ว

    Trying to decide between the Alto Professional Stealth MKII ($399) and the Alto Professional Stealth Pro shown in this video ($749). Any significant difference in performance between the two?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      Huge difference. I do not recommend the MKII.
      A better option to all of these would be what’s shown here.
      th-cam.com/video/pfcaP3ZvnZI/w-d-xo.html

    • @notdjtrellmixx
      @notdjtrellmixx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Got it. Thanks for the quick response!

  • @djdoncruse1952
    @djdoncruse1952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very dope video

  • @jdavis8460
    @jdavis8460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rachel, why did you stop using this and opt for the Sennheiser microphone hack?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a good unit if you need multiple wireless speakers on a budget. There are better options, but they are also much more expensive than the Alto Stealth Pro. I use these at less formal events like large car shows or food truck festivals if I need to spread out sound over long distances. I haven’t had any issue with them, some people hate them. 🤷🏼‍♀️
      For my weddings I use my Sennheiser unit. I usually only need one satellite speaker and this is a more premium option.

  • @jeffreylangan344
    @jeffreylangan344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you still using it? I have one and have rarely used it because I have had horrible static at times. I recently ordered a antenna combiner with a directional antenna to see if it helps.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is better technology available. This is 4 years old. I now use this…
      th-cam.com/video/pfcaP3ZvnZI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pTdxicbkH3G-oDbj

  • @scottmuir9347
    @scottmuir9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rachel,
    Question, by your recommendation, I purchased the Alto Stealth Pro. When you opened it, was there a clear plastic or tape overnight over the digital readouts, on the transmitter and receivers. When I opened mine, all the readout screens are smudged. And when I tried wiping it off, it won’t come off. I’m wondering if they sent me a used system. Your thoughts?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine was a B stock unit so mine didn’t have plastic on it. It’s possible, but I am unable to say. Have you tried it? Does it work?

    • @scottmuir9347
      @scottmuir9347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DJRachelLynch not yet. Going to try it out today. Was just wondering. Thanks!

  • @rickjones78
    @rickjones78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    in your example of "SCAN" for a channel on the receiver, there was ultimately no RF reading. Which is a problem I am having with one of my receivers. I scroll +/- and can't get any RF reading.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want your RF meter to have the most bars possible. The lower the bars the more congestion there is on that frequency. Scan every time you use and find the most “open” channel. Most of what you’re looking for is explained in the manual.
      Just a side note…
      Adjusting the squelch is relatively straightforward. You simply set your mic up (powered on) at the furthest distance (or worst case) you ever expect to use it and adjust the squelch at the receiver until it just gates off your mic. Then move it back up just a little for an extra margin of safety.

  • @snapshotprophotobooth1864
    @snapshotprophotobooth1864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rachel your are the best, questions for you am I looking for the highest RF on the meter when scanning frequencies, also do I adjust the squelch to a higher number if no high RF frequencies found? I’m hoping someone can make a video on understanding frequencies, RF , sync, squelch, for this system. Haven’t seen any videos on this yet.Thanks

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want your RF meter to have the most bars possible. The lower the bars the more congestion there is on that frequency. Scan every time you use and find the most “open” channel. Most of what you’re looking for is explained in the manual.
      Adjusting the squelch is relatively straightforward. You simply set your mic up (powered on) at the furthest distance (or worst case) you ever expect to use it and adjust the squelch at the receiver until it just gates off your mic. Then move it back up just a little for an extra margin of safety.

  • @1AsianTV
    @1AsianTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤nice job with the video

  • @InvincibleDJs
    @InvincibleDJs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay DJ Rachel, you left out the part of how you sync these things up :) What is the order and what buttons do you press? I tried to follow the manual, but I can only get the first one linked and not the second. Help!

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m gonna be honest. I literally just followed the manual. 😅😬
      The transmitter must be in Sync mode to accept frequency changes made by the receiver.
      If you are setting up a system using multiple receiver-transmitter pairs, set up each receiver one at a time and keep each receiver powered on as you set up additional units. This will prevent each pair from automatically selecting the same channel.
      Make sure the receiver is powered on and within 3 feet of the transmitter.
      Press the Sync button on the transmitter. The Sync indicators will flash on both channels in the Display, and the transmitter is ready to receive channel and frequency information from the receivers.
      With Sync flashing on the transmitter, press the Freq button on the receiver you want to synchronize until the RF indicator flashes on the Display (see image). When the RF indicator flashes, the receiver will enter broadcast mode and transmit channel and frequency information via the 2.4 GHz frequency.
      If that doesn’t work, try to do it manually.

    • @InvincibleDJs
      @InvincibleDJs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Thanks for responding. I finally figured it out. I had to change the second receiver to the right one in order for the transmitter to recognize it. That’s why it kept overwriting the left one each time I tried to sync :) I wish the instructions were written better but not your fault. I appreciate all the help you give us!

  • @carlovazquez6422
    @carlovazquez6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cuando los usas y empiezas a mesclar música no hay retardo en la música a usar este producto?

  • @headshotheroes2618
    @headshotheroes2618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wondering if You Still Using this? Is it Still Working? Is It Still Worth Getting Now or Should I Wait in Case they Gonna Make an Updated Version in the Future?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still have this unit and use it only when necessary. I will ALWAYS choose to run a cable if I can, but sometimes we have no choice but to use a wireless option. They work very well for the price. There are better options out there but they are literally double the money.

  • @raysaysouk816
    @raysaysouk816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, How can I hook up 1 sub and 4 speakers to Alto Professional Stealth Wireless Pro System? Do I have to buy 2 of the wireless systems?
    Thank you!

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'd need the expansion packs. :)

    • @raysaysouk816
      @raysaysouk816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Thank you for your quick response.... do you have the link where I can buy that expansion?
      Thank you.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raysaysouk816 I would contact @NLFXProfessional and speak to Ben Stowe. :)

  • @marviklima5568
    @marviklima5568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got the earlier model of the Alto stealth, still works great years later.

  • @kellysamples8977
    @kellysamples8977 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So just so I’m clear you want the RF meter to be low because that is showing the amount of congestion on the particular channel right ?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it represents “signal strength” not congestion.

  • @robertlussi4145
    @robertlussi4145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried all this not even close to what you are doing. I had one speaker set up right next to me, just to try it. Terrific, I took the same speaker outside about 70 feet away never changing anything, didn't pick up signal. What am i doing wrong.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For best results:
      Get things high with good line of site.
      Make sure you’re scanning for a clean channel every use.
      Make sure the frequency has LOW/MINIMAL congestion by looking at the RF signal on the screen.
      It’s rated to work up to 200 feet away. 70 feet should be no problem.

    • @robertlussi4145
      @robertlussi4145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJRachelLynch Thank you for comment: I noticed when you put in the adapter it's loose and wiggles. That was the problem I had with losing signal. I eliminated the adapter the cord that was plugged into the adapter if I moved it or the wind blew I lost the signal. It seems to work better now, I didn't check the distance yet. Tomorrow is another day. Hopefully all works or I am sending the unit back. Again Thank You for your help.

  • @lianputaithul6979
    @lianputaithul6979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do u think it will be great for church? Will it be any problem?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lianpu Taithul get them dialed in and high up in the air and you should be fine. 🙂

  • @foreveryseasonphotography
    @foreveryseasonphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same issue with the old model, and some time cut off the signal of the shure mic.

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This model is MUCH better than the previous one.

  • @kctraviesodj
    @kctraviesodj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So maybe I god a bad unit ?
    Just purchased this system and if I walk Across the 25’ distance between receiver I get a bad white noise
    Any ideas ? Did I got a bad antena if this thing can work across walls then it shouldn’t break the signal break when a person walks across the line of sight
    I’m a bit disappointed 😌

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s important to make sure you have a clear channel and scan the frequencies properly. You’ll know this by the visual RD bar. These should be high as possible, with as clear as line of site. Bodies can affect the signal as they are technically very large “bags of salt water.” While results can vary under different environmental conditions, it does sound like something is off. Also do you have the “pro version”? The first gen of this was absolute garbage. These are MUCH better.

  • @OscarGarcia-eu1sf
    @OscarGarcia-eu1sf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you or anybody tried a sound test with an XLR to RCA cable with this receiver to see how it affects the sound quality? For an event, the XLR Master outputs are normally used for connecting to the main setup speakers. I never use the RCA master

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      XLR is the highest quality connection you can use. I personally don’t use RCA for anything.

  • @saltyjohnsonband3686
    @saltyjohnsonband3686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could two of these be run at the same time ? For a live band , one unit dedicated to FoH and another dedicated to say monitors?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Salty Johnson Band The previous unit you could purchase expansion packs and have as many receivers connected as you wanted. To my knowledge these aren’t available yet for the pro edition. However, I don’t see why it would work any different. In theory you should be able to have as many dedicated monitors as you wanted as long as they’re broadcasting the same thing.

  • @greggillis3474
    @greggillis3474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you like this verse the Senheiser that you use in your newer videos

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This works well for the price and allows for expansion packs for multiple speakers. The Sennheiser is double the price. Better unit. With weddings I use me Sennheiser.

  • @djodmaticca.8384
    @djodmaticca.8384 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but I was waiting for you to test the sound inside a Pizza oven😔😆😆 thank you for a great product review and have you thought of having your mom MC one of your gigs? I would love to see that.....ONE HOUR LATER....ok I give up, I can't find the secret code after watching the vide 3 times, I give up🤢

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Email me and I’ll give it to you. I’ll be honest, not sure if the company is still offering the discount. 🤔

  • @michaelrehardtartist6625
    @michaelrehardtartist6625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi all, Does anyone have any experience with these systems for actual instruments?. As in a musician singing and playing guitar into mixer and out to PA's in a live gig?. Any feedback would be very much appreciated.

  • @greggarcia4797
    @greggarcia4797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi hello! I need that one ? And how much the price in dirhams(uae)

  • @LioSintra
    @LioSintra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you change for Sennheiser G4? Did this Alto System disapointed you?

    • @DJRachelLynch
      @DJRachelLynch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This works well for the price range, but the Sennheiser is a better unit and also double the price. It only allows me to have one wireless speaker versus the expansion packs available with the Alto. Each had their pros and cons.