Helicopter Parents Joining Kid's Job Interviews?! - Dave Ramsey Rant
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As a professor I refuse to talk to parents of my students, although many have tried. Improper, unethical, and in many cases unlawful.
Shawn Ballee that’s an awesome rule, we need more profs like that
Imagine, for a moment... you're in the middle of an interview, for a job youre really nervous about and secretly want more than anything in the world.... and your friggin MOM WALKS IN right in the middle asking to "OBSERVE"!??!
When did this become a thing?
i'm betting in many universities the administration would really lay into a professor that did that - them tuition dollars are more valuable to them than propriety, ethics, and legality. Could you rsvp?
Also a professor... Had a parent email me and ask me to drop her child from my class without consulting her daughter.
First job, somewhere 14-17 I can see rehearsing job interviewing with your kid, helping write the resume, driving them there. But walking in together, and in their 20's? Wow.
NO! NOOOO! I had my first job at 11 and my first legit job at 15, parents are NOT allowed to come in your interview! Thats immediate dismissal of you as a potential employee. No one should be having their parents come into an interview for a job with them unless theyre under 5.
Ashley ASHLEYM they didn’t say going in they said practicing with them, and driving kids too young to drive there is appropriate but going in with them would be too much.
The Anachronistic Life I’m 19 and my mom still helps me proofread my resume. She doesn’t do it for me or submit resumes for me but she does help me make sure my grammar is good and sounds good. She has a masters degree so I think she is qualified to mentor me and make sure I seem professional before even meeting the potential employer.
@@ashleyashleym2969 well most countries don't allow child labor either
@jillian, :) Hi, the topic and video is about parents going to the interview and calling HR if their adult child has problems getting along or is reprimanded. Parents living their adult child's life won't ever work.
If a parent sets up an interview and shows up, it shows that the kid does not really want that job, the parent wants the kid to have that job.
I own a professional staffing company . Many of the jobs I look to fill with my clients are great with excellent pay and benefits. One of the many things I look for is the candidate's ability to ignore their cell phone. I have had clients request that if the cell phone is in plain sight or is audible at any time during the interview, to wrap it up and not forward the candidate to them. This is good business sense.
Exactly.
My mother set up a interview for me when I was 21 and I got the job. She call me and said you have a interview in two hours hurry up and pick me up. It helped me to jump start my career by at least 2 positions
@@jimcole6423 If you have to deal with candidates like this on a regular basis, you're not dealing with quality candidates nor are the jobs you're recruiting for attracting high level talent.
@@cristobalvalero6345 That’s different though
I'd be mortified if my parents interfered in my life that much.
My uncle did that to me once. He literally called a recruiter behind my back and wanted to set up an interview and the recruiter literally called him out and said "sir, why isn't your niece the one calling me?" Exactly.
Shows how self-absorbed the parents are - "you can't make it without MY input."
I worked as a manager at a major retail store and had this happen once about 11 years ago. Mother sat in the interview and answered all the questions for the guy. I could not believe it! Needless to say I did not hire him. The mom kept calling wondering why he wasn't hired.
watwat79 I'm sure it essentially wasn't a big deal seeing as how it's a retail store. More then likely a bad job anyway, next interview!
Z Taco Taco...I'm sorry I didn't hire you. You and your mom need to just let it go. Good luck in the future.
You did you go through with the interview, why didn't you dismiss him prior to the interview if he came in with his mother?
@@ashleyashleym2969 maybe the person was interested to see what would happened. I would do it myself cause i wouldn't care i think it would be funny an not only that it be fun.
the broad was THAT self-absorbed?! 😵
LOL Parents sitting in a job interview????? Oh, MY Lord!!!! People are PSYCHO!!!! My parents never came on my job interviews and I got a job.
When Daxes kids were hired I am sure Dave was in the room with them.
Right Im shocked this is a thing!
@@deesee3622 Same. The worst my parents ever did was stop at a pizza place while I went in to fill out an application when I was in my early 20s. I would have been so embarrassed if they would have gone in with me.
When I was in high school and learning how to write resumes, apply for jobs and conduct myself on interviews, one of the things I was taught was to never bring anyone to a job interview. Always fly solo when going to a job interview. If you bring someone to a job interview, you are telling the interviewer that you can't do your own work or work independently.
If I were running a company and someone brought mommy and daddy with them to a job interview, I would politely tell them that there is no chance of them getting hired. I only hire responsible adults.
I am currently 17 years old and used to work at a hardware store nearby about a year ago. I went in the store myself, applied, went to the interview by myself (which is NORMAL). After working there for a couple months, this kid, the same age as me came in with his mom and his mom did all the talking saying that HE wanted the job and that HE is excited to work there when he looked like he just woke up. After seeing that, I never saw him working with us at the hardware store. Coincidence, I think not!
This makes me laugh. When my kid was in second grade she came home and said , I think I need to go back to special math I'm having a hard time getting something. I said ok do you need me to call someone? No , I'll handle it. The next day I got a call from a confused teacher,no kid had ever asked on their own. When she was in college I never saw a bill or a grade,I wasn't going to college,she was!
It was June 18,1965, Graduation Day; after my mother hearing I intended to look for work in Sept., she informed me I would be going looking the next day.
Monday nite, I came home employed. Then informed I'd be paying $15 a week rent.
It's called teaching your kids to grow into adulthood. Too man parents aren't responsible adults themselves.
It was easier to do that back then
I have actually seen it happen...I was embarrassed for the guy (who was about 24)...he did not even seem to notice and actually thought it was okay! But it isn't just parents...I have actually seen a wife go in and talk to her husband's boss about him being "mistreated" in the office. You can't make this stuff up!!!
I worked as a recluter, and a family friend keept asking questions about a job opening for her son and telling me the job/school historia of the kid. After answering her questions for 20 min i told the lady to have the boy call me, i would interview him, not her. She got very ofended. Later told my mom she did not want her kid meeting me for interview because she wanted him to have a job not get scared. WTH
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I know this was uploaded in 2017, but this puts the 2019 college entrance scam (parents paying recruiters huge amounts of money) in a new whole light for me. Thanks Dave for posting this.
As a millennial (28 years old) my parents which are gen x have never interfered with job interviews or anything that has to do with my career. The only thing my grandmother has helped me with is building my resume.
And that they can, but its guidance, it should always be you doing it.
Matt H. My son is 28 years old. He's purchased his first house and is getting ready to flip it. He works for one of the largest companies in this country and is doing a marvelous job. Who knew? I didn't even go on the interview with him! He did all by his little Lonesome. My son is an achiever. I'm very proud of him. And he is a millennial.
.....ok.... and? What was the point of saying this?
@@gabrielle-d1b If you're too stupid to understand the message and the context, that's your issue...no one else's
I had controlling helicopter parents who, even after I got married, tried to control and parent me @ 23 yrs old. they got over-involved with my marriage and children. when we tried to set boundaries, they fought back.
after many times of trying to get them to respect boundaries, we gave up and cut them off. We even tried to contact them after we had a stillborn son back in 2015 and they turned the whole circumstance into it being about them and not our little lost son and what we needed. so we vowed to never contact them again until we have prayed and feel they will respect boundaries...so far with the continued calls and texts and letters with nastiness and control....we know its not going to be good....sigh....some of us really dont understand the helicopter parent thing.
I have an older brother like that. Basically wanted a say in where we lived, what sort of house we purchased etc etc. The only solution I found was cutting off completely. My sympathies to you though.
Reminds me of an episode of Everybody loves Raymond where Robert's mom tries to convince the FBI to hire her son.
Thats exactly what I thought too 😂😂😂😂😂
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Yep 👍🏽
If a parent came to a job interview, I would tell them both why I would not even interview the "child." Let them both know how ridiculous that is. I mean, is Mom/Dad going to come to work every day? If not, then stay out of the interview.
I got booted out of the house when I went to college and then learned to set limits with parents. If they are not naturally set, you need to do it. Sure you can take advice but any important life decisions it has to be truly yours. Job, salary, marriage, where you live etc.. Do not owe money to your parents. Stick to a plan and pay it back as quickly as you can. I put everything I had into paying off every cent within 2 years in my first job - The last thing anyone needs is a parent looking over your shoulder, judging and telling you I paid for you so you do what I say.
I'm a millennial, work, and have no debt. I have a son and won't do any of this to him. There is hope. lol
There is hope and common sense.
Anthony Lopez I'm in the same boat. Turning 26 next month, married, wonderful career, and close to being debt free. Millennials like you and me are why it irritates me when older people hate on our age group. I'm sure if age discrimination was going the other way, it would look a lot different.
Ellen Ricks Seriously. They think we just drink Starbucks and Snap Chat on iPhones all day. lol
Good man.
Like Ramsey said there's only two types. One that wants to set the world on fire or ones that are entitled, infantalized snowflakes. Unfortunately the ones that get the most attention are the latter especially at the universities like USC Berkeley for example. You know the types, the ones that need therapy dogs to cope with an election.
If I asked my kids if I could go with them to a interview, they’d laugh their butts off.
And rightfully so
Can we finally come to the realization that it's not the kids fault it's the parents who raised them.
Yay! Nothing is anyone's fault!
JonO387 are you seriously blaming young people for having interfering parents who raised them badly & cannot give up control?
JonO387 hahahaha
That's the point of his argument
You could also argue that it is the grandparents' fault in that they did not teach the parents how to raise kids.
I remember a bunch parents coming to my University during orientation week. They all got mad because the Dean came out and told the parents they were not permitted in the room were students went in to pick their classes for the quarter. My parents weren't even at orientation, they weren't coming at the way out there. I was fully capable of choosing my own classes.
As a recruiter twice this has happened. The mom would want to sit in!!
Tamara Laird I believe it, I've had moms drop off resumes for their kids sitting at home! Unbelievable!
Tamara Laird are you English?
You cannot be serious? Did you actually let them sit in?
Did the mom actually show up? Because that is the root of the problem. If I was a manager and this happened the kid would be out of there.
If I was you as soon as I saw the parent I would have said to the child, thank you for coming in, your interview is finished (all while the interview hasn't even started). And then just walk away.
Is there any faster way to ensure your grown child doesn't get the job? I doubt it.
K H-C why would any parent not want their grown child to get a job faster ?? Your comment make's no sense. Getting a job as a grown up that's part of growning up an being an adult. Period.
BAM HAMMER, comment makes perfect sense. Any aren't who attends a interview w/ a 20 something does ensure the young person would never get the job. Both your comments mean the same thing but Bam HAMMER' comment is saying what DR is saying.
I'm 39 (tomorrow) and when I was getting back into the workplace after the end of my first marriage, my mum was kind enough to drive me to interview but I was MORTIFIED when she stayed to meet the store manager and talk me up to him. I am not a millenial but I'm physically disabled so yes my mum is definitely a helicopter mum. I didn't get the job; thanks mum! LOL
Love, Rosie Happy birthday!
Pull the employee in and tell them if parents contact them again they will be out of a job. This also works for spouses who call.
You're laughing Dave, but I fear that one day I'll be interviewing one of these clowns and have to leave the room in shame because I was laughing so uncontrollably hard at mom or dad attending that I accidentally relieved myself!
I used to be a GM for a Papa John's. I had many parents getting applications for their kids and many applying for their kids online. And then when work came dealing with mommy and daddy I got tired with. I ended up telling employees that I dont deal with mommy and daddy i deal with my employees.
Based on my experiences in Parent-Teacher conferences, I am not surprised
Well, to keep your parents from interfering, don't tell them all your business. Keep some stuff to yourself. You don't have to tell your parents everything.
The day I turned 15 my Mom drove me downtown and I got my work permit. 2 days later I had a job and my parents had nothing to do with it. By the time I was 16 I was managing the store.
I remember that I got into vocational rehab by my mother while I was in college so I can get a job while attending but it didn't work out because of a lack of motivation and I felt being low-key helicoptered/micromangaged by her. I wanted to do it at my own time without parental interference.
It's not years later until I answered an ad from Craigslist that they're looking for entry level in-store promoters as my first job before working at my current one. I would say being motivated to improve my life as I got older pushed me into other opportunities and I actually don't want to be co-dependent by the age of 30 while living with my mom.
My 11 year old still squatting in my basement. About time he earn his keep!
It's worse than that. A job interviewer jot SUED by the lady who came for the interview, because this lady was refusing to shake hand, she find it offensive. She won. So next time when I go to a job interview, I will also find the boss tie offensive, because it's blue and I will sue him and actually WIN! What a world we live in!
If you think this didn’t happen before millennials you’re dreaming. It’s just easier to document and share experiences now...
Never heard of it before around 5 years ago.
@@susansauls8902 I saw it ONCE when I was hiring twenty years ago. Yeah, she didn't get the job.
@@susansauls8902 Hey everyone, this one person was ignorant to certain things happening...so that must mean this never occurred before hand.... Yeah not silly at all
I once knew a woman who took her young toddler to the interview with her, telling them she did not have a babysitter. She thought this would help convince them just how much she needed the job. lol she did not get it, surprise surprise.
My theory is the generation "when men were men" is under the impression the world is a scarier place today because of a combination of nostalgia and the rapid availability of news (albeit sometimes fake). They think crime was almost nonexistent when they grew up because they had zero idea what was really going on. Thus the evolution of the chopper parent
that's a good point.
You know what? I cannot figure out where this type of "millennial" comes from. My husband and I raised three daughters (ages 36, 34, and 30). They are all well educated, well and happily employed, and happily married (and we have two grandchildren). We worked HARD to raise these young ladies. Lazy parenting = rotten kids.
They are not lazy parent. lazy parent don't give a rats ass about their kids. They are overly protective parent with no boundaries.
Someone should send these people Boundaries, because they could use some.
That's the difference, Mary - you worked hard. Parenting is hard work! Unfortunately, most parents blame teachers and society and whatever else. Teachers aren't responsible for parenting - parents are. You know that - not everyone does. :(
Humility goes a long way
Amazing words brother - I have a cute story - I didn't have connections in my home town LA so after trying to be my own boss I decided to change - I went from Craigslist job to working for a fortune 500 - finally getting a chance to enjoy the working world at 30. Good things happen to those who push through hard times.
could you imagine being married to that?
On the plus side, millennials are generally not eager to get married, and especially not young
Sure Lock, majority of calls do come from millennial who play house instead, combine their debt have babies and wonder why it doesn't work.
On the upside, you immediately know who *not* to hire.
Adam A i got hired after a interview that my mother attended with me lol
@@cristobalvalero6345 Exceptions make the rule now? And it HIGHLY depends on the field and whether the parent in question has connections. Not to mention, the culture, country etc.
"Wussified little snowflake" 😂😂😂😂😂
Speaking as a teacher of ten years (and an old millenial) this sort of helicopter parenting starts way before people enter the workforce---they have been doing their kids homework and essays for years by that point.
You wan to help your kids teach them while they are in jr high and high school how to manage money, file taxes, manage credit, apply for scholarships, labor laws, negotiate, be frugal, manage spending, purpose of saving money, being on their own. Good grief, life skills so they can be productive adults.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
My dad sat with me while I filled out my first job application in high school. But I've never done anything like this! Crazy!
That’s different
I once heard someone say they weren’t raising children, they were raising adults who were going through childhood. It’s a subtle difference in philosophy, but an important one! I’ willing to bet none of those parents referred to in that article, had that parenting philosophy.
Yes this is real. I have had a few parents come up to me pitching their kid for a position as they stood next to their parent and didn't say a word.
The "kid" was probably embarrassed as heck.
He says parents should stay out of it and the children should learn to send resumes, do interviews and land jobs on their own. I fully agree, but didn’t he also say at 4:03 “my kids work here.” I wonder if Dave Ramsey‘s children struggled to send their resume, schedule an interview or land a job at Daddy’s company.
I can accept parents who help a little like driving their child if they can't or looking over resumes as a second set of eyes. Like my mom is a college dean so of course I showed her my resume. But that's it. That's where it ends.
Sometimes, other adults also go over our heads and tell our parents things. When I was 15 and got fired from a job, the boss actually called and told my dad instead of me. He let my dad tell me I was fired for not being strong enough to pick up and wash heavy pots and pans at a restaurant...he should have told me.
I could see if it’s a zoom interview the parents sitting off camera and taking notes on what they did right and wrong in an interview.
will mommy and daddy drive the kid to work each day? what if they are not available each day? then mommy or daddy will call work for the kid to say they wont be in to work?
grandfather will take care of that...
telecasterbear sadly it does happen
Uncle Bob or Aunt Martha will take care of it . . .
Mom stuck her foot in my office door as I was closing it to ask for a second time if she could sit in her son's interview.
Sad to say, in my years of managing retail, I have met a good amount of helicopter parents. The parents want the job more than their kids do! Definitely turns me away from hiring them.
This place I use to work at. There was this girl who been there for less than a year. She wasn't the brightest or hardest working and was always making mistakes. She worked this 1 week the night shift until like 10-11pm. After 2 days her parents came up to the company and was questioning management why her daughter was working so late that w eek. She actually got fired a 1-2 months later, was rehired, than fired again in under a month. She was like 22-24 years old.
Luc... Wow that's crazy an sad.
One of my friends is like this. I shake my head when she says she's going to go in and deal with her kids boss.
I am with you in this.
"That thing" ... I love it!
Our shop interviewed a 25 year old guy. His mom wanted to come in and our plant manager terminated the interview right then. He had to call the police to get the kids mom out of the building. Lol
I almost had to call the cops on a mom who stuck her foot in my office door to ask for the 2nd time if she could sit in the interview. I knew then I was not hiring that guy.
the one where the mom wanted to do the interview instead of the child was the best :D But seriously though, what happens with these 'kids' once the parents are no longer around? Do they put themselves up for adoption at the age of 40?
They either adapt or basically become wards to somebody
I have a friend whose parents are... not great, and illegally use her information to apply for jobs for her, against her will. It's pretty disgusting. I'll agree she's not off to a great start in life, but this is not how to fix it.
I was at a group interview where a girl had her mother sit in. I had a feeling she was a little slow, but the mom can't be there if she gets hired and have to work everyday. I didn't get that job but I always wondered how that turned out.
😂😂😂😂😂 This is priceless!!!! Shocking!!
My mom did this. No wonder why didn't get the teaching job. I got the tech college school and job, not even a even job or a learning thing positive.
By the way I can't slap my mom to China about I'll be in jail.
Christina B No wonder why you didn't get the teacher job your it's not the best.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
Reminds me of the episode on Everybody Loves Raymond, when Marie interferes with Robert's interview with the FBI!
I would hesitate to hire someone who had mommy at an interview nor would I rent to a young adult whose parent wants to handle the lease. I wouldn’t want the drama.
When I was a manager who hired staff, I would get lots of girlfriends and wives who would ask for applications, ask about jobs. I'd always tell them to send their man in to sell himself, but a parent???
I'd send them both out on their ear, I run a place of business not an adult daycare
Sometimes other adults do stuff like this, too. I had a brief job washing dishes when I was 15 years old. My boss decided to "let me go" because I'm small and petite and he said it was just too hard for me to lift big pots and pans to wash them well enough. But he called and told my dad he was letting me go. He should have called and talked to me about it. I was the one with the job, not my dad.
Parents GET their kid 'the' job. "No kid of mine will be cleaning out toilets!"
I have some experience with hiring at a fast food restaurant, and I assure you that your kid will not get hired if you sit in on their interview.
I'm a 34 year old millennial and my parents were not at ALL involved in ANY of my job "stuff"!
The furthest my parents got involved in my career is at age 14 they showed me an ad of the company I got my first job from
Their parents call to set up interviews and call to find out why jr didn't get the job. They call bosses to complain about the treatment to their kids. It's very common!
What are you supposed to do when an employer asks you for the contact details of your nearest relatives? I asked my parents whether they were happy to have their details given to a workplace and they said no. Then I wouldn't give the details and work treated it as if I was the problem but got used to it when I didn't back down.
This video describes my parents very well.
often these are just throwaway interviews where the parent wants to see how their child is performing, knowing full well they torpedoed their chances of getting such jobs. if anything, businesses should feel bad that young people think so lowly of their organization that they are using it as literal practice with zero concern about actually getting the job.
I went along to my sons college registration and was told you'll need to let go sometime he's growing up and was then told to have a seat in the waiting room. I didn't make a fuss or say anything to the woman but I really wanted to because of her attitude. 5 minutes later the same woman had to come and get me but she didn't apologise for the way she spoke to me. The only reason I was with my son was because I had to sign all his paperwork because he was only 15 years old. I would never have gone if he'd been older and certainly not if he was going for an interview that's just not right.
Had your son been 18 she would have been 100% right
@@jerrystauffer2351 Absolutely if he had been 18 I'd never have gone with him but the paperwork in front of her said he was only 15 and his parent had to accompany him to sign the paperwork she just didn't read it before jumping to a wrong conclusion and making a nasty comment then didn't apologize for jumping to the wrong conclusion or the comment.
My mother came to my first job interview when i was 16 and later on my boss told me she was the reason I had got the job.
Omak it makes sense when you’re 16, but it’s cringe when you’re 28.
@@tanksherman9875 Even at 16, I applied and went to the interview by myself.
I wasn’t close to my parents like that- growing up, I felt I couldn’t confide in them or ever let them know what I was “actually” up to. I vowed to not make my kiddo feel like that, because I know the stupid things (sometimes illegal things) I did, I don’t expect perfection, I want him to be safe. I want to be his “safe space” My son will never ask for me to come to an interview, either- his issue is (by his own mouth) “over confidence” 😆 I love that, and wish I had the same struggle! My struggle is the opposite (my boss would second this) ps- I’m a millennial mom.
Very sad that one day, there might be a warning with a job opening, advising that a parent will not be permitted to accompany the applicant during the interview. Normal young adults will wonder why that was necessary, snowflakes may actually publicly whine about it on social media.
Okay this one truly baffles me
When I worked at a motel, I interviewed a young 18 year old who brought her brother with her to the interview (?!). It was for simply housekeeping.
She quit after the first day because after being told to clean the bathroom (she was given the basic instructions, the cleaning supplies and asked to clean it), she was mad because no one 'cleaned with her and showed her how.'
Snowflake. Egads. If you need to be shown that something is dirty, so clean it -- it's housekeeping, not CEO of the company.
I once worked in a very small non-profit office, where the office staff took care of the cleaning outselves. We once hired a woman who refused to dust the furniture, because she said no one had ever taught her how. The rest of us laughed when we thought about it and all said we did not think anyone ever taught us how either. You just grab a rag and dust. :) She was not that young either - she was married.
Join the military. A great way to get a job and earn educational benefits.
My 16 year old daughter is interviewing for her first job today. I told her same thing my dad told me. "Good luck, see you when you are done!"
My mum introduced me to someone at her work to help me get an opportunity for an interview when I was 16. For every other interview I've worked at it and got them myself, but I'd ask her for advice or to do some practice interview techniques. She'd never rock up to an interview for me.
"spineless jellyfish!!"😂😂💀💀
Craziness!!!
Oh my God!
I have to give Dave my thanks. The past year I was applying to internships with only a job making copies and another answering the phone. After 8 rejections after one or two interviews per place, I was lucky to eventually land somewhere that I just fit in with the culture and they were happy that I was at least exposed to tax at the copy job. I'm very happy there, but it ends in 5 weeks and I knew it was time to look for where I'm gonna go.
I was especially worried because this was my one chance to apply for the big league internships that lead to full time positions, and even with this new internship I already had, my track record with interviews had not been good previously. My interviews always ended in 20-25 minutes and I had only generic questions. I was never really alive and sort of going with a whatever I have 5 chances with other places until it became a I'll never get hired mindset.
What changed was when I put in effort to match Dave's description as an on fire millennial. Before even interviewing I ran for student government which I never thought I'd do and won which boosted my confidence. I mentioned I had the drive considering I was already working almost full time work while a full time student. And then I just tried to get myself interested in the conversation I had with my interviewers.
Today I got the call that I had been accepted into my dream internship just one day after the interview. And I know I must have especially seemed on fire because I was LATE. I ran in there panting, but immediately put myself into just smile and act awesome mode. And the best part is I'm still waiting on possible other offers, but even if I don't get those, I'm glad to have one. To think that all I had to do was change how I perceived myself.
U r awesome
At 14 I biked a couple miles to a job to ask for a application at a field job all on my own I didn’t need my parents hope my generation gen z is not like those people have there parents come to job interviews
As a 37 year old female who is considered disabled by the government if my parents were to ever set foot it to my job and tried to talk to my boss they would be cut out completely.
This actually happened to me twice....parents kids volunteering their kids to work for me...ummm no
We should clarify the difference between a helicopter parent and an actual controlling parent. Control is about controlling the child. You will do what I say, when I say it, how I want it. Helicopter parents are more about doing everything FOR their kid.
sounds like something for candid camera
They are extensions of their parents. 'My kid doesnt vape.'
Holy Moly hahahaha. Only in Merica!!!!
Had one like that. First job at 27.
I didn't know much about Millennials til now!!!