Allen ran his numbers up on weak teams. Ravens schedule has been brutal, not The Jets Twice, New England Twice, Dolphins Twice. Allen had the worst passer rating of any QB against New England. He's been hyped up by the media for years. He can't hold a candle to Burrow, let alone Jackson or Mahomes.
Josh Allen is a media hype. The pundits want him to win a mvp so bad. If cinci makes the playoffs and go further than the bills what keeps him from being top 2 in voting?
Jackson and mahomes are Brady and Manning Allen and burrow are roethlisberger and Brees. Brees played in a weak division / Allen Roethlisberger played tough AFC north / burrow Mahomes is Brady. AFC West is garbage. So was AFC East for Brady Lamar is manning. Except manning played a weak division. Lamar does mot
Funny how they don’t also show the passer rating and completion % between Allen and Lamar 😂😂 Cuz Lamar is beating him in those 2 categories as well The way the media is trying to gift Allen this mvp trophy is insane.
Bro look up allens records he broke this year he broke records that stood for 50 years Lamar just broke a different record. Allen broke the record for most tds in 7 years and so on
Well to be fair he did become the 1st QB to throw 3 and rush 3 TDs in 1 game. But thats still not enough for me to say he should win. Its still Lamar, he's unstoppable, the only players that could stop or slow Lamar down is his own teammates!!! Like dropped passes, like missed kicks, and like the defense in the 1st half of the season.
@Animals_areLife42735 dude those r made up stat lines to make him look good... Which one of them puts him in the record books.... Rushing yards, of dats Lamar, maybe passing yards, passing touchdowns oh dats Brady, passer rating, Rodgers and Lamar, qbr nope.... Rushing tds, nope dats LT... Bro those records r just things they bring up to make u look good... A rushing record is real, a passer rating is a real record... Scoring 3 touchdowns throwing and running, go look that up, no body even thought about that.... Catch a touchdown, throw one, and run one, is overrated, a lateral from d 3 yard line bro😏😏😏 delusional...
@@Animals_areLife42735he also had 11 more ints too.... I cant believe u tryna justify 18 ints.... He was the second worst in the league... Again u buffalo bills fans r delusional man...
James cook leads the in tds for a rb. James also had 100 yards on ten carries last week two tds while josh had one td. So nobody can say josh dont have a good rb
Gang love the show but let's keep it hot. The MVP race isn't a race, it's a matter of people putting projections out there and being wrong. They said lamar was a running back and Allen was neck and neck with mahomes. One contestant is about to make history while the other is vouching for sympathy awards. Cut the BS, SOS (strength of schedule) matters. Imagine the bills record this year if they played the steelers, bengals and browns tiwce along with the commanders, texans, chiefs, eagles, broncos, chargers - that alone 5 losses doesn't sound bad the AFC least has never been good. Because the voters said Allen didn't have nobody before the szn started the expectation was STILL the bills are getting out of the AFC lol. 1. Lamar has beaten Allen h2h and is beating him in passing tds, qbr, passer rating, rushing yards, passing yards, total touchdowns all while having lower interception count with a higher passer count than josh, while josh beats him in rushing touchdowns and having the advantage of 2 things only (skin tone and 13 secs game clock chiefs game he lost). I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Allen has been the front runner for 3 weeks now when he hasn't done ANYTHING spectatacular stats wise or team wise, The chiefs lost 1 game! He went 9/30 and had the worst game this year by any QB BY FAR. Your point about him having 4 years where he could have won MVP is CAP LOL , yardage is fine and dandy but are you gonna count all them interceptions that come with it? We are trying to force someone into elite status that just isn't there yet and its okay, just stop trying to act like he's something he isn't. He went 4306 yards 29 pass td 18 int 15 rush td last year 2022 - 4283 yards 35 pass td 14 int 7 rush td, 2021- 4407 yards 36 pass 15 int 6 rush td and 2020 4544 yards 37 pass td 10 int 8 rush td. His team has never clinched the 1 seed, Aaron Rodgers obliterated his stats in 2020-2021 having less than 6 ints both times while putting up better numbers and better team record- do not blame lamar for literally demolishing every great opponent last year and being a surgeon in the backfield. Two things are true and imma stop typing, 1. People hate lamar for being black and overcoming odds, and 2) People know Josh will never eclipse lamar if he wins another MVP. You even had this one chick say he wasn't "quarterbacky" enough but is about to have over 40 passing touchdowns and less than 4 interceptions, oh wait add 900 rush yards to it as well.. if that's not the MVP you are outta your damn mind. Just let me know where Josh has had a better MVP season than lamar, I'm seriously waiting, one more thing ask yourself if the roles were reversed and Allen had Lamar numbers would ya'll cape for Lamar being the MVP? Or would you be real with yourself and tip your hat to Josh Allen. I rest my case.
YOU CANNOT GIVETH PRAISES TO ATHLETES THAT AREN'T COMPETING AGAINST THE BEST TEAMS; THE SCHEDULE OPPONENTS & RECORDS ARE PROFF WHICH TEAMS ARE PLAYING HARDER & MORE COMPETITIVE THAN OTHERS; THUS TO COMPARE AN OLYMPIC STAR ATHLETES TO HIGH SCHOOL STAR ATHLETES; COMPETITION IS CLEARLY ABSURD TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE WHICH REAL QUARTERBACKY, HAD THE BEST SEASON & OBVIOUS MVP!!! LAMAR'S BALL'S HANDS DOWN!!!🏈🏈🏈
To compare Lamar and Allen, you only need to examine the teams they played and defeated to see that Lamar's performance is clearly superior to Allen's. Of the Bills' 12 wins with Allen, only 3 were against teams with a record above .500. In contrast, for Baltimore with Lamar, 7 out of their 11 wins were against teams with a record above .500. It's easy to be seen as the 'best' QB, as some people might perceive Allen to appear, if most of your wins come against teams with fewer than 4 wins each.
The mvp .is voted on by sports. journalists, generally football players are not world class journalists. very few of which have played pro football. Start a new award decided only by ex players if you want.
I need people to look at the AFC playoff standing.. 1chiefs 2bills 3ravens 4texans 5steelers 6chargers 7broncos. Lamar mopped the floor with all the teams besides chiefs but no one is talking about this.. nasty work josh beat chiefs and a beat up lions team
a Lions team that literally has a injury report Looked liked a entire football team for that game... their D was literally a bunch of back ups and dudes not even on the team the week before.
People keep saying he beat the Chiefs and Lions a d the ravens lost 5 games. . Lions defense is swiss cheese, he lost to thr Ravens who have beaten the Bills badly snd beaten the top defenses in the NFL badley. Ravens schedule is harder and many MVPs have lost 5 games. That's the max your allowed to lose imo.
You mean he plays worse competition? Yes The difference is Ravens have a tougher schedule and Lamer still smashes Allen in stats You Allen fans are delusional. Allen is great, he’s an incredible QB. Lamar is just once in a generation.
Allen ran his numbers up on weak teams. Ravens schedule has been brutal, not The Jets Twice, New England Twice, Dolphins Twice. Allen had the worst passer rating of any QB against New England. He's been hyped up by the media for years. He can't hold a candle to Burrow, let alone Jackson or Mahomes.
I’d agree with everything you said except for the burrow part.
I think Allen is easily better than burrow.
Burrow got 2 #1 receivers.
He
Josh Allen is a media hype. The pundits want him to win a mvp so bad. If cinci makes the playoffs and go further than the bills what keeps him from being top 2 in voting?
Jackson and mahomes are Brady and Manning
Allen and burrow are roethlisberger and Brees.
Brees played in a weak division / Allen
Roethlisberger played tough AFC north / burrow
Mahomes is Brady. AFC West is garbage. So was AFC East for Brady
Lamar is manning. Except manning played a weak division. Lamar does mot
Ravens strength of schedule: 4th hardest
Bills strength of schedule: 17th
Wasn't Raven's 1st 😮
@mosesbaraka3355 Nah, according to all sites they had the 4th hardest schedule.
@DustinPlatt 👍
@@DustinPlatt nah we were first
Bills schedule was weak and ravens schedule was a guanlet
Funny how they don’t also show the passer rating and completion % between Allen and Lamar 😂😂
Cuz Lamar is beating him in those 2 categories as well
The way the media is trying to gift Allen this mvp trophy is insane.
AND QBR now. They can show no stat that portrays Allen better this year.
Lamar beats him in every category except rushing tds
How/why was Allen ever the runaway mvp?
🤔
Makes absolutely no sense.
Lamar’s set multiple passing and rushing records
Allen hasn’t broken any records
Bro look up allens records he broke this year he broke records that stood for 50 years Lamar just broke a different record. Allen broke the record for most tds in 7 years and so on
Well to be fair he did become the 1st QB to throw 3 and rush 3 TDs in 1 game.
But thats still not enough for me to say he should win. Its still Lamar, he's unstoppable, the only players that could stop or slow Lamar down is his own teammates!!! Like dropped passes, like missed kicks, and like the defense in the 1st half of the season.
@Animals_areLife42735 dude those r made up stat lines to make him look good... Which one of them puts him in the record books.... Rushing yards, of dats Lamar, maybe passing yards, passing touchdowns oh dats Brady, passer rating, Rodgers and Lamar, qbr nope.... Rushing tds, nope dats LT... Bro those records r just things they bring up to make u look good... A rushing record is real, a passer rating is a real record... Scoring 3 touchdowns throwing and running, go look that up, no body even thought about that.... Catch a touchdown, throw one, and run one, is overrated, a lateral from d 3 yard line bro😏😏😏 delusional...
Racists pimping Allen.
Jackson passing stats alone is more than josh allens combine rushing and passin tds and yards....🤔🤔🤔
It's not about stats last year allen had 15 more tds than Jackson but Jackson won
Allen had a total of 18 ints, so stats did come into play
Compared to Jacksons 7 ints
@@Animals_areLife42735he also had 11 more ints too.... I cant believe u tryna justify 18 ints.... He was the second worst in the league... Again u buffalo bills fans r delusional man...
@Animals_areLife42735 because your not winning with 22 tos and 18 int
James cook leads the in tds for a rb. James also had 100 yards on ten carries last week two tds while josh had one td. So nobody can say josh dont have a good rb
I’m sick of bills fans acting like Allen doesn’t have a supporting cast.
Someone finally said it 🙄😶
Gang love the show but let's keep it hot. The MVP race isn't a race, it's a matter of people putting projections out there and being wrong. They said lamar was a running back and Allen was neck and neck with mahomes. One contestant is about to make history while the other is vouching for sympathy awards. Cut the BS, SOS (strength of schedule) matters. Imagine the bills record this year if they played the steelers, bengals and browns tiwce along with the commanders, texans, chiefs, eagles, broncos, chargers - that alone 5 losses doesn't sound bad the AFC least has never been good. Because the voters said Allen didn't have nobody before the szn started the expectation was STILL the bills are getting out of the AFC lol. 1. Lamar has beaten Allen h2h and is beating him in passing tds, qbr, passer rating, rushing yards, passing yards, total touchdowns all while having lower interception count with a higher passer count than josh, while josh beats him in rushing touchdowns and having the advantage of 2 things only (skin tone and 13 secs game clock chiefs game he lost). I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Allen has been the front runner for 3 weeks now when he hasn't done ANYTHING spectatacular stats wise or team wise, The chiefs lost 1 game! He went 9/30 and had the worst game this year by any QB BY FAR. Your point about him having 4 years where he could have won MVP is CAP LOL , yardage is fine and dandy but are you gonna count all them interceptions that come with it? We are trying to force someone into elite status that just isn't there yet and its okay, just stop trying to act like he's something he isn't. He went 4306 yards 29 pass td 18 int 15 rush td last year 2022 - 4283 yards 35 pass td 14 int 7 rush td, 2021- 4407 yards 36 pass 15 int 6 rush td and 2020 4544 yards 37 pass td 10 int 8 rush td. His team has never clinched the 1 seed, Aaron Rodgers obliterated his stats in 2020-2021 having less than 6 ints both times while putting up better numbers and better team record- do not blame lamar for literally demolishing every great opponent last year and being a surgeon in the backfield. Two things are true and imma stop typing, 1. People hate lamar for being black and overcoming odds, and 2) People know Josh will never eclipse lamar if he wins another MVP. You even had this one chick say he wasn't "quarterbacky" enough but is about to have over 40 passing touchdowns and less than 4 interceptions, oh wait add 900 rush yards to it as well.. if that's not the MVP you are outta your damn mind. Just let me know where Josh has had a better MVP season than lamar, I'm seriously waiting, one more thing ask yourself if the roles were reversed and Allen had Lamar numbers would ya'll cape for Lamar being the MVP? Or would you be real with yourself and tip your hat to Josh Allen. I rest my case.
YOU CANNOT GIVETH PRAISES TO ATHLETES THAT AREN'T COMPETING AGAINST THE BEST TEAMS; THE SCHEDULE OPPONENTS & RECORDS ARE PROFF WHICH TEAMS ARE PLAYING HARDER & MORE COMPETITIVE THAN OTHERS; THUS TO COMPARE AN OLYMPIC STAR ATHLETES TO HIGH SCHOOL STAR ATHLETES; COMPETITION IS CLEARLY ABSURD TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE WHICH REAL QUARTERBACKY, HAD THE BEST SEASON & OBVIOUS MVP!!! LAMAR'S BALL'S HANDS DOWN!!!🏈🏈🏈
To compare Lamar and Allen, you only need to examine the teams they played and defeated to see that Lamar's performance is clearly superior to Allen's. Of the Bills' 12 wins with Allen, only 3 were against teams with a record above .500. In contrast, for Baltimore with Lamar, 7 out of their 11 wins were against teams with a record above .500. It's easy to be seen as the 'best' QB, as some people might perceive Allen to appear, if most of your wins come against teams with fewer than 4 wins each.
@browns let lamar throw for 220 with 150 rush yards 😅
How does an individual vote in a MVP and never played football?
The mvp .is voted on by sports. journalists, generally football players are not world class journalists. very few of which have played pro football. Start a new award decided only by ex players if you want.
I need people to look at the AFC playoff standing.. 1chiefs 2bills 3ravens 4texans 5steelers 6chargers 7broncos. Lamar mopped the floor with all the teams besides chiefs but no one is talking about this.. nasty work josh beat chiefs and a beat up lions team
a Lions team that literally has a injury report Looked liked a entire football team for that game... their D was literally a bunch of back ups and dudes not even on the team the week before.
Exactly and havent beaten anyone else with a winning record and barely beat the 3-11 pats
People keep saying he beat the Chiefs and Lions a d the ravens lost 5 games.
. Lions defense is swiss cheese, he lost to thr Ravens who have beaten the Bills badly snd beaten the top defenses in the NFL badley. Ravens schedule is harder and many MVPs have lost 5 games. That's the max your allowed to lose imo.
The NFL wants josh to win MVP they never wanted Lamar to be successful
Lj go flock
Not a goat yet. He needs more MVPs and SB rings but he's young
he is a goat the moment your number 1 in some stats
Give Lamar the MVP. He deserves it.
Patrick will happily take that Super Bowl MVP when both Lamar and Josh fail to get the job done yet again.
Greatest football player of all time lol. You guys are way too biased on this particular topic tbh. It’s ok though
Allen has lesser team and better record, no discussion Allen is MVP
You mean he plays worse competition? Yes
The difference is Ravens have a tougher schedule and Lamer still smashes Allen in stats
You Allen fans are delusional. Allen is great, he’s an incredible QB. Lamar is just once in a generation.
You can't be serious
What teams have he beaten other then kc and a beat up lions team? Absolutely nobody. Hasnt beaten anyone with a winning record 😂
Who would you rather watch play at QB?
Allen SHOULD NOT BE IN THE MVP CONVERSATION, you have 5 qbs that are playing way better than allen . LAMARS STAT ARE TEN TIME BETTER THAN ALLENS