8700G isn't too bad. Runs about 10°C cooler as well. The 7800X3D will ultimately give better performance, but you have to invest in a dGPU just to start, whereas the 8700G has a decent iGPU for starters, and you can upgrade to a dGPU later.
@@sanal.abraham More work to do. The synergy with the 7800X3D is way better but for a good and cool system the 8700G is fine. But in fact the 8700G has a good iGPU - maybe its interesting to see a CPU only setup with this thing.
@@sanal.abraham Its like sqeezing out lemon. Your left hand is the 8700G and your right hand is the 7800X3D and you press it, but your left hand only uses 80% of power. There is still juice to get from the lemon - so you have to press harder (better CPU)
@@yeeza420 Thanks for the reply. Does it mean there is more room for undervolting and overclocking in 8700G than 7800X3D? How much does the L3 cache difference matter? I don't have the budget for a 1440p dedicated GPU right now but I will upgrade in the future
While using the 8700G the gpu is much cooler than on the 7800x3D build. Sadly the benchmark doesn’t include Power Usage or CPU Temp. The only reason the 7800x3D still has higher fps is likely the V-Cache, which the 8700G doesn’t have. As of now it looks like the 8700G is quieter, cooler, and most consistent on the lows vs avg fps, thus has more bang for the buck.
In my country the 8700F (and G by extension) is around 170€ to 200€ cheaper, while also having very similar performance for quite a few games. chose the 8700F, because of that. haven't used it yet, since I am waiting for a few other parts to arrive as well.
@@arassharifi7606don't know but most likely for people who want to get into AI type programs development or software it'll come in handy but for regular gamers who's not interested in AI program or software it's not worth it it's
@@SHOTYOUOS Bruh this doesn't even make sense. If you want to know the CPU performance you just can't benchmark with a GPU as the limiting factor. Simple as that
@@TheCorship Прочитай чем занимается процессор видеокарта здесь не играет никакой роли она отображает тот фпс который даёт процессор но никак не наоборот все характеристики у них одинаковые кроме понятно процессоров которые как видно по графику дают разную производительность и почему я думаю не стоит объяснять
Actually traded the 7800X3D for a 8700G and OC'd my 6000-sticks to 6600 (IF on 2400/2) and tight sub-timings. iGPU on 3200/1.2v (1.25v isn't needed) and with using the latest trickery that AMD provides with FSR, it runs a lot of games quite fine on 1080p with higher settings. For example God of War runs superb! If you want to do some lower-cost and low-power gaming, the 8700G might just be the answer for you, that is to say if you're fine running high settings and some of them on medium on 1080p. A well optimized or older games even run damn well on 1440p :)
No, it's quite fair cpu test, as rest of hardware stays the same, it shows the difference. I wish there was 7800X3D with 780M iGPU, it would be the best APU for gaming in the planet :)
@@shbddh Do you play using a 3080? Maybe 4090 owners want to see what CPU would be etter for them. Or those plannign to buy a 5090 soon. It all has it's reasons. And: Not bottleneckig the CPU (which is the tested object here) gives anyone the needed numbers to calculate or estimate performance with a given GPU, while GPU bottlenecked CPU tests do not.
Your test is useless. You are not able to check the performance and compare both CPUs because your GPU is the bottleneck (99% usage). You are misleading people that the 8700G is only slightly less efficient than the 7800X3D... The truth is that the 7800X3D is much more efficient using a dedicated GPU.
Большинство людей вообще не понимают чем занимается процессор и чем занимается видеокарта если вмдеокарта нагружена на 100 процентов это не означает что она узкое горлышко в этом тесте процессор дает фпс видеокарте и та отрисовывает то что дал процессор а никак не наоборот учите мат. часть клоуны
Por eso preferí comprarme el ryzen 8700g , rendimiento similar , pero si no tengo para la gráfica dedicada en la apu tengo mas rendimiento que la 7800x3d ,
So this is more garbage from AMD. When is the new RYZEN 8800x3D coming? I bought a 7800x3D, stability not so great. I need to get rid of it as soon as possible. Thx
8700G isn't too bad. Runs about 10°C cooler as well. The 7800X3D will ultimately give better performance, but you have to invest in a dGPU just to start, whereas the 8700G has a decent iGPU for starters, and you can upgrade to a dGPU later.
The GPU runs 10°C cooler. Thats a key diff
@@yeeza420why does the gpu run 10 degrees cooler?
@@sanal.abraham More work to do. The synergy with the 7800X3D is way better but for a good and cool system the 8700G is fine.
But in fact the 8700G has a good iGPU - maybe its interesting to see a CPU only setup with this thing.
@@sanal.abraham Its like sqeezing out lemon.
Your left hand is the 8700G and your right hand is the 7800X3D and you press it, but your left hand only uses 80% of power.
There is still juice to get from the lemon - so you have to press harder (better CPU)
@@yeeza420 Thanks for the reply.
Does it mean there is more room for undervolting and overclocking in 8700G than 7800X3D? How much does the L3 cache difference matter?
I don't have the budget for a 1440p dedicated GPU right now but I will upgrade in the future
While using the 8700G the gpu is much cooler than on the 7800x3D build. Sadly the benchmark doesn’t include Power Usage or CPU Temp. The only reason the 7800x3D still has higher fps is likely the V-Cache, which the 8700G doesn’t have. As of now it looks like the 8700G is quieter, cooler, and most consistent on the lows vs avg fps, thus has more bang for the buck.
In my country the 8700F (and G by extension) is around 170€ to 200€ cheaper, while also having very similar performance for quite a few games.
chose the 8700F, because of that. haven't used it yet, since I am waiting for a few other parts to arrive as well.
The advantage of the 8700G is that it has a 780M graphic chip built in, this is a null comparison, since you have a GPU installed in the test bench.
So the 7800 3d still more powerfull
ofc my frent
7800x3d is slightly faster, but it doesn't have a NPU for AI. It's also $75 cheaper
What's the advantage of having a NPU for AI?@@devgoon
@@arassharifi7606don't know but most likely for people who want to get into AI type programs development or software it'll come in handy but for regular gamers who's not interested in AI program or software it's not worth it it's
@@arassharifi7606special task loads. So basically one is for gaming one is for machine learning
The CPUs are only under low load in the games you show? How is someone supposed to defer the performance here?
On low the CPU does the work a good way to show how good a CPU is .
On high the GPU does the work (video card)
@@SHOTYOUOS
Bruh this doesn't even make sense. If you want to know the CPU performance you just can't benchmark with a GPU as the limiting factor. Simple as that
@@TheCorship Прочитай чем занимается процессор видеокарта здесь не играет никакой роли она отображает тот фпс который даёт процессор но никак не наоборот все характеристики у них одинаковые кроме понятно процессоров которые как видно по графику дают разную производительность и почему я думаю не стоит объяснять
Actually traded the 7800X3D for a 8700G and OC'd my 6000-sticks to 6600 (IF on 2400/2) and tight sub-timings. iGPU on 3200/1.2v (1.25v isn't needed) and with using the latest trickery that AMD provides with FSR, it runs a lot of games quite fine on 1080p with higher settings. For example God of War runs superb! If you want to do some lower-cost and low-power gaming, the 8700G might just be the answer for you, that is to say if you're fine running high settings and some of them on medium on 1080p. A well optimized or older games even run damn well on 1440p :)
While the 7800X3D is a beast of a CPU, 8700G does a pretty good job with half of the TDP and the iGPU is such a beast for... being an iGPU.
depending on the budget you the money you save from the cpu you can invest in the gpu. In case of infinite budget 7800x3d is much much better.
GPU loading 99%. It is like GPU test, not CPU
No, it's quite fair cpu test, as rest of hardware stays the same, it shows the difference. I wish there was 7800X3D with 780M iGPU, it would be the best APU for gaming in the planet :)
Do you play 720p in real live?
@@shbddh Do you play using a 3080?
Maybe 4090 owners want to see what CPU would be etter for them. Or those plannign to buy a 5090 soon. It all has it's reasons. And: Not bottleneckig the CPU (which is the tested object here) gives anyone the needed numbers to calculate or estimate performance with a given GPU, while GPU bottlenecked CPU tests do not.
Good job! Can you make CPU power comparison of 8700G with 12100f and 7500f?
You should repeat this with a lower resolution, as the GPU is obviously bottlenecking here.
Why on tables of fps is showing rtx 3080?
Gpu limited, this is how to FAIL a cpu test.
8700 .. hallo new king
without grapic card winner 7800x3d or 8700g ????
wins 8700g
Your test is useless.
You are not able to check the performance and compare both CPUs because your GPU is the bottleneck (99% usage).
You are misleading people that the 8700G is only slightly less efficient than the 7800X3D... The truth is that the 7800X3D is much more efficient using a dedicated GPU.
Bro games are gpu depended
Большинство людей вообще не понимают чем занимается процессор и чем занимается видеокарта если вмдеокарта нагружена на 100 процентов это не означает что она узкое горлышко в этом тесте процессор дает фпс видеокарте и та отрисовывает то что дал процессор а никак не наоборот учите мат. часть клоуны
Por eso preferí comprarme el ryzen 8700g , rendimiento similar , pero si no tengo para la gráfica dedicada en la apu tengo mas rendimiento que la 7800x3d ,
So this is more garbage from AMD. When is the new RYZEN 8800x3D coming? I bought a 7800x3D, stability not so great. I need to get rid of it as soon as possible. Thx
AMD 9000 series coming
@@Arijit_ 🙂 RYZEN 9800x3D 🙂 I wish it was :-)
@doctorcoomerphd2543
Give £200 cash for your useless Cpu anytime.
what do you mean stability not so great, did you overclock it?
What the Shit is this Video about?