By what I've watched just now if there is anyone that has any beef with what this dude just did, then you don't have a clue. This guy knows his shit and I'm very shocked that I've finally seen someone do them almost identical to the way I do them. I was taught from generations of tile setters and I am so thankful for what they taught me and what I've learned. Now over 24 years and still going strong here. But this guy is on top of it no doubt. Much respect man good video. Done a few Wedis, bunches of Schluters, few Tile Redis, and even some KBRS Hard Cores and other few but I still like the old school way from scratch with the dry pack mortar bed and rocking the walls and then mud and tape and then liquid waterproof at least 2 coats and then I finally get to lay some tile with thin set of course
I got a chuckle when he pulled up that sub-floor plywood. When I did mine on a recent remodel, that plywood was glued, screwed, and nailed down. HO-LEE-CRAP was it hard as hell to remove. Large chunks stayed bonded to the beams and I had to scrape them away. I'm dreading this in my master bath remodel. If it could always be this easy! Great video.
A very well done channel. You don't seem like your looking to try and be that "Know All" channel. Steve knows what he's doing, but also come across as a guy who DIY'ers (like me) can relate too. New Sub here.
You prolly dont give a shit but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account? I somehow forgot the login password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!
thank you, hopefully the tips help and cleared up any questions. Curbless showers are somewhat tricky but this system is one of the simplest to install
i took a 5 foot three sided fiberglas tub/shower enclosure (a nice one from Lowes) and sunk it to where the "tub" section was flush with the floor and made a 6 inch half moon fiberglas step down inside on the tubs floor then i put a typical shower head on each end of shower enclosure. really turned out nice and have had many compliments.
I used advantech subfloor with cement board on top and all walls, red guard 3 coats with membrane on the entire floor and on all joints and up the corners then tile, it will never leak and I diy
I loved the video but can you explain why was the original floor cut out and then lowered 3/4"? couldn't the shower pan have been set directly on the original subfloor and a hole cut for drain?
I’m currently on the fence between taking a month to do it myself and paying $10,000 for someone to finish in a week, Time is money but 10 grand is a lot of money
fantastic videos. i'm looking to convert my mom's shower to a walk in shower, generally is it cheaper to go with a prebuilt resin shower kit or DIY tiling? not counting labor as either way i'd be doing it all myself
it depends on many variables but tiling can be more cost-effective. Plus you’ll want to add solid blocking in the walls for grab bars or even a foldable shower seat, and these methods in our video are in line with that project. Let us know if you have any questions, my email is jeff@homerepairtutor.com
Woo, those shower pans are expensive! I saw a couple videos of making your own with mortar. I might go that route, but not sure. I hate the swelling of OSB if anything leaks through in the future.
When those tiles cracked... 🥴😳 Too funny! Lol We had a tile crack on camera during a bathroom construction job that we did recently (and made a video about on my channel!) 😂
no what if your curbing is not at a 90 and it's runs at angle do you make your backerboard vertical and fill the Gap behind it to the curbing being I don't have a curbless or the backer board will be running at an angle to the curbing looking forward to hearing back from you thank you for sharing nice job
yes, still works without any leaks. Wedi makes solid shower systems but they need to be waterproofed properly. This video explains where to not make a mistake th-cam.com/video/b_qt32yIYUc/w-d-xo.html
What if you have 11 3/4" BCI joist below the subfloor. How would you handle that situation as far as beefing up the subfloor and lowered it 3/4" or more?
john K they build houses now with osb floor but charge as much as plywood. But people will buy it and they know it.They really don't even know what they are buying.Glad I built my own house.
I've been watching a lot of your videos and I would like to know if you have one that shows how to slope a shower for a linear drain. with no pre built shower pan just Schluter Ditra. That is exactly what I'm doing to my shower.
Don’t you want the Ligno pan sightly taller than the subfloor so that your underlayment on the subfloor actually meets flush to the top of the ligno to ensure that the tile is the same height in both shower and main bathroom floor?
Great video. I've watched several on your channel now. My bathroom demo is complete, my sub floor is removed exposing floor joist, and I'm ready to rebuild. But first I need to select the correct shower pan/tray. I have 4 variables, and need advice making the right selection. Wedi vs Schluter vs one slope vs laticrete, vs etc. I'm trying to determine my "splash zone" with open curbless, no door shower area. Thanks
Home Repair Tutor The size is somewhat negotiable. I have two definite walls and one wall I am going to build which will I close a toilet room. The placement of the wall is based on the shower pan I choose. The fourth side (opposite of shower head) will be open curb less and door less. Fun right? I wish I could show a photo, it would make sense.
Home Repair Tutor, thank you very much for the video. I am going to do install one in the near future (maybe) based off your video. I recently bought a house and the last owner just installed a new tile shower (DIY project for sure). There are no leaks when it runs normally (regular shower), but one time I placed a wash cloth over the drain so my son had a few inches of water to play in. When I lifted the cloth to "drain" the shower, I had water leak downstairs. I think the water creates a little pressure as all that water is draining through the P trap after the drain. When I opened up the ceiling and replicated the "leak" it looked like it was leaking from the bottom of the drain. After watching your video, Im wondering if the installer simply didn't silicone the vinyl to the actual drain. What are your thoughts on this? Is this normal? I don't want to tear a "new" shower out, but I also want to make sure it is done right. Thanks in advance for your help!
What is the reason behind cutting out the osb on the floor and recessing it where you are putting the pan lower on the joists? Is this just a option or is that how it has to be done? Thanks getting ready to do our Custom built shower in our new house
Couple questions - looks like they were asked previously but no answers: 1) These can be cut? The shower are I need to do is only ~ 3ft sq 2) My drain extends out into the garage - shower enclosure is on a base sitting on garage floor and tight - I'm assuming can't attach the drain until after installation? Thanks for the video
+Jeff Ribordy Wedi pans can be cut to size but there are limitations based on the instructions. You'd want to set the drain and drop the pan over it. So have all the plumbing in place if you don't have access underneath it. Hope that helps
If you have a framer do the cut out and fur down then a plumber install the tub I agree...I do think this is a great product and just having that peace of mind that your shower is not going to leak into your living room is great.
Hey I have a question about the wedi curbs. I have a 36x36 shower pan I need to install. I have it in the corner with the walls on the back and right. The rest I would place a curb and being open making a full square. My question is. Can I I mount glass to those wedi curbs with a door? Or should I build up. If I build up and put wedi over it?
Going to use the Fundo Ligno as tub replacement (36x60"). The subfloor is 3/4" strand board, the Ligno is 3/4". When I put down a 1/4" wonder board/Wedi board won't that raise it up over the Ligno pan? or do you keep it that 1/4' high and bevel it down into pan with morter to make for of a run to the drain? I would not tile directly over 3/4 strand subfloor. Thanks and appreciate your video's.
+Jim Fiascone we'd recommend using DITRA as it's only 1/8" thick, allows you to completely waterproof the surrounding floor and stops tiles from cracking. In addition, add the Wedi Subliner over the pan and the DITRA for extra waterproofing. Wedi does have Subliner Flex which could be a solution for you as well. We have not used it though
Q: I cut my Wedi pan lip a little too much, so there's about 1/2" space from where it joins the wall. Can I just fill that in with Sausage? Or is there another technique? I can cut a small strip off another panel and put it in (also)? Thx.
Shower head, hand held & body sprays. How many sprays? We use the IPC here & often have to go to a 3" drain or two 2" drains. Of course, if you're not getting inspected...
So the age old question , do you install a pre sloped pan before u lay ur topping mix ? I am remodeling my sisters bathroom and there is a handful of ppl who do that and allot of other people who don’t and I havent heard a complaint yet , personally if you red guard the entire shower base and walls , no problem ! A little extra cost but .. set it and forget it . Keep up the good work brah ( side note I have been in the construction business for 17 years ) allot of demos and in my opinion on tear outs IF the contractor took the time to seal the base properly I have seen no evidence to support that theory )
So if you take your time and seal the entire base and up the wall 2 feet with red guard water will still weep through ? I ask for evidence as respectful as I can , like all other good contractors if there is room for improvement which there always is , do it , it will save u the respect in your trade to not have to replace.
@@Carpenters_Canvas honestly, we don't do this type of installation because new pre-sloped shower pans are much easier and faster. We like Schluter, Wedi, KBRS, and Laticrete systems. The only mud pan we do is for curbless basement showers. The money spent on pre-sloped shower bases is saved in time and materials fixing mistakes down the road. Just one opinion
Home Repair Tutor * I appreciate the i site , as I said before I am constantly trying to keep up with all the newest products that are tested and proven to be better for reasons A B C , this is what real tradesmen do , consult with other craftsman in a constructive way , as we all know it isn’t about what makes us happy , knowing that when u leave a job and u did the best work every time for the costumers sake , I try to tell all of the so called craftsman money means nothing when ur working in someone’s home . I have called out other contractors who just mortared the tile to the advantec . He didn’t finish the job I tore it all out and restarted with the shluter system . Thank you for your time hopefully we can collaborate More in the future for the best results , there is no better feeling then walking away from a job proud and secure with your work. , is the wedi system pre sloped I couldn’t see it in the vid . Or actually u build the pan on top of this right ?
@Home Repair Tutor I am also doing a curbless walk in shower it’s amazing how intimidated homeowners get when they see the 500 dollar price on the shluter base but u can’t beat it ... just don’t spill any pipe primer on it it me Tsk away lol
I used Custom Bedding Mortar for a shower pan, but there is an area that now needs a little additional slope. What product can I use on top of the bedding mortar to feather in some additional slope? It's only about 3 sq ft on one side of the drain that needs about 1/2 inch of additional rise along the edge of the pan. Thank you.
sakana1977 That's exactly what I was thinking was what the hell LOL.... why remove subfloor and level for draining when the floor pan if installed on the proper slope will drain! Plus who would use cheap OSB board 😎
Can the pan be cut to size? My shower space is only 36 x 30. Or because the shower is flushed with the rest of the floor there is no need to cut it? My bathroom will be a wet room. The size of the shower will be determined by the back wall (48 inches and according to where I put my shower curtain rod which I am thinking a minimum of 30 inches from the back wall. I noticed that the smaller pan is 36 by 48.
It's realy interesting why do we need to use this system? Is it cheaper than shower liner instalation wich gives you a complete waterproofing? In my opinion it's a way harder than a liner instalation because you don't neeed to play with the framing.
+Andrii Pasichnyk here's the problem with liners, they're not always installed properly and a lot of people puncture them either on purpose at the framing or by accident. Plus who's providing the 10 year warranty, the installer? Wedi is waterproof on the surface and as long as you don't puncture the entire way through the foam your shower is protected from accidental cuts from tools. This system is also a curbless shower, meaning the homeowner simply walks or rolls into the shower. So the liner is mostly used for curbed systems. That's a big difference
I want to tear out a 36"x36" shower and replace it with a 48"x48". Existing shower pan is prefab fiberglass. Home is single-story on concrete slab. I'm hoping to: 1) Remove existing shower pan 2) Apply thin set to concrete slab so floor slopes to the drain 3) Add perimeter curb 4) Install tile Do I need a shower pan or barrier when installing shower on a concrete slab? Does water seep through tile grout and become a problem to the sub-surface?
t d did you get it done!? I'm actually wanting to do pretty much the same thing just maybe go a bit bigger if possible but probably same size. would love to hear your experience if you was able to get it done!
I’m getting ready to build a walk in shower on a new construction build for our house my question is do you always need to cut the sub floor out and make it 3/4 lower or is that only for remodels? What is the purpose behind doing this? Thanks in advance
it’s best to make the shower tray area 3/4” lower so that the shower tray is flush with the main floor; the Wedi Fundo Ligno is 3/4” thick at the perimeter. This allows you to have the Curbless entrance 👍🏼
in that case, you can bond a Fundo Primo directly to your concrete; if this is your first Wedi shower you can get a rep to come out on your install day. Highly recommend doing that
how did you get the proper slope the lower shower pan? It looks like it is installed totally flat. Not sure how you make sure water runs to the center?
From eye balling my bathroom I'm thinking I could remove the old bath tub frame I'll be able to see the pipes and reuse the pipes and just create the structure like the walls of a walk In shower
By what I've watched just now if there is anyone that has any beef with what this dude just did, then you don't have a clue. This guy knows his shit and I'm very shocked that I've finally seen someone do them almost identical to the way I do them. I was taught from generations of tile setters and I am so thankful for what they taught me and what I've learned. Now over 24 years and still going strong here. But this guy is on top of it no doubt. Much respect man good video. Done a few Wedis, bunches of Schluters, few Tile Redis, and even some KBRS Hard Cores and other few but I still like the old school way from scratch with the dry pack mortar bed and rocking the walls and then mud and tape and then liquid waterproof at least 2 coats and then I finally get to lay some tile with thin set of course
The more I watch these videos the more I realize I need to outsource this project
John Fox lol my thought exactly
No. You can do it. Just make you're mind up to
It’s literally common sense and basic tools
Same
@@ramboxlegacy14 it depends on how much prior experience they have before it becomes “common sense”
I got a chuckle when he pulled up that sub-floor plywood. When I did mine on a recent remodel, that plywood was glued, screwed, and nailed down. HO-LEE-CRAP was it hard as hell to remove. Large chunks stayed bonded to the beams and I had to scrape them away. I'm dreading this in my master bath remodel. If it could always be this easy! Great video.
Lol. I totaly enjoyed him crushing that tile!
A very well done channel. You don't seem like your looking to try and be that "Know All" channel. Steve knows what he's doing, but also come across as a guy who DIY'ers (like me) can relate too. New Sub here.
Using the sawzall blade as a compass, Best damn trick I’ve seen in a while
+Brian lol, that was cool.
Brian 😂😂
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Thought the same thing. I was like, “wait, wth was that? A sawzall compass???” Rewind. Omg. Brilliant!
You prolly dont give a shit but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account?
I somehow forgot the login password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!
This is the best video I have encountered that covers the installation of a Tile over shower tray. Thank you very much.
thank you, hopefully the tips help and cleared up any questions. Curbless showers are somewhat tricky but this system is one of the simplest to install
Osb as a floor under the shower pan. Yeah that's a good idea 👍
it's an approved method and if the pan is installed correctly will not matter
i took a 5 foot three sided fiberglas tub/shower enclosure (a nice one from Lowes) and sunk it to where the "tub" section was flush with the floor and made a 6 inch half moon fiberglas step down inside on the tubs floor then i put a typical shower head on each end of shower enclosure. really turned out nice and have had many compliments.
Great video, thank you. Did make me laugh when he stepped on the tiles used to weight down the shower. "Errr...we'll just cut that bit out..."🤣
He broke the tiles when he stepped on it
in 25 years never seen the sawzall trick. brilliant
thank you, but you probably have a ton more tricks! Appreciate your support
12:51 he was like “OH NO OH NO WTF DID I JUST DO? ILL JUST EDIT THAT OUT.”
lol broke a tile
Thanks Steve for doing it for him
Very nice lads. Dudes a bit rough on the new stuff getting those boards up lol maybe I'm just too delicate.
Is flying Steve out to Texas to install a walk in shower a possibility?
Is awesome wok .I cross with some job to do.replacing a tub for a walk in shower
So I see you video and I think I can do it this shower is on a second floor do I have to open a bathroom from first floor to do the plumbing?
I used advantech subfloor with cement board on top and all walls, red guard 3 coats with membrane on the entire floor and on all joints and up the corners then tile, it will never leak and I diy
How many of those tiles broke at 12:49?
+phatdonkey78 lol, they were pretty thick. Recently my project table collapsed and dropped 3/8" porcelain tile on the floor. None broke
phatdonkey78 you're an idiot.
dude i was thinking the same thing!
Porcelain is pretty sturdy stuff. But yeah, I could see something shattered lol
I heard it too
I loved the video but can you explain why was the original floor cut out and then lowered 3/4"? couldn't the shower pan have been set directly on the original subfloor and a hole cut for drain?
It’s because it was a curbless shower
Fantastic video thanks a lot
I have no business attempting this.
Hahah
Presloped pans are the best!
Right. Screw hot tar
nice demo. ty
I’m currently on the fence between taking a month to do it myself and paying $10,000 for someone to finish in a week, Time is money but 10 grand is a lot of money
fantastic videos. i'm looking to convert my mom's shower to a walk in shower, generally is it cheaper to go with a prebuilt resin shower kit or DIY tiling? not counting labor as either way i'd be doing it all myself
it depends on many variables but tiling can be more cost-effective. Plus you’ll want to add solid blocking in the walls for grab bars or even a foldable shower seat, and these methods in our video are in line with that project. Let us know if you have any questions, my email is jeff@homerepairtutor.com
Woo, those shower pans are expensive! I saw a couple videos of making your own with mortar. I might go that route, but not sure. I hate the swelling of OSB if anything leaks through in the future.
ADA compliant shower can boost home value as well
When those tiles cracked... 🥴😳 Too funny! Lol We had a tile crack on camera during a bathroom construction job that we did recently (and made a video about on my channel!) 😂
How many tiles did you break when you stepped on the open box? -:)
no what if your curbing is not at a 90 and it's runs at angle do you make your backerboard vertical and fill the Gap behind it to the curbing being I don't have a curbless or the backer board will be running at an angle to the curbing looking forward to hearing back from you thank you for sharing nice job
Ah miss those days wish tile was profitable again I would go back..
4 years later can you give an update?
Has it held up?
Any problems?
Nice system, looks easy
yes, still works without any leaks. Wedi makes solid shower systems but they need to be waterproofed properly. This video explains where to not make a mistake th-cam.com/video/b_qt32yIYUc/w-d-xo.html
What is the process if you have TJI's and not dimentional lumber floor joists?
I have the same question.
Can you set the new pan over the existing deck, or can you lay a sheet of cement board over the existing deck, then place the pan over it?
What if you have 11 3/4" BCI joist below the subfloor. How would you handle that situation as far as beefing up the subfloor and lowered it 3/4" or more?
Great video! Do you have to install tile on top of Wedi shower panel? If so what size of tile is the best in terms anti-slip feature?
I love the specificity of this. Great Tutorial!
Thank you for sharing,
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When do you connect the drain?
In the intro, what system did you use to water proof the shower you are sitting? And what sides shower is that in the demostration?
great question, that shower is an Arc shower tray with Wedi’s building panels, it’s 48” x 48”
So how much did this entire project cost if you don't mind me asking? How much would it cost to DIY vs hiring a contractor?
OSB might be fine. But it gives me the creeps. Could I use exterior grade 3/4 ply. Great video.
john K they build houses now with osb floor but charge as much as plywood. But people will buy it and they know it.They really don't even know what they are buying.Glad I built my own house.
I've been watching a lot of your videos and I would like to know if you have one that shows how to slope a shower for a linear drain. with no pre built shower pan just Schluter Ditra. That is exactly what I'm doing to my shower.
Naku relate ako dyan sa budgeting sir, medyu kinakapos din😅
Pero laban lang
Don’t you want the Ligno pan sightly taller than the subfloor so that your underlayment on the subfloor actually meets flush to the top of the ligno to ensure that the tile is the same height in both shower and main bathroom floor?
Can i put this wedi.pan on top of existing showerfloor.... fiberglass?
dudes a beast at it
Are custom shower floors suppose to level? For the most part???
I like when they stepped on the tiles
How do you tie in an existing drain line to the weed shower pan drain ? I have a finished basement.
Can you use something between the subfloor and the thin set?
Great video. I've watched several on your channel now. My bathroom demo is complete, my sub floor is removed exposing floor joist, and I'm ready to rebuild. But first I need to select the correct shower pan/tray. I have 4 variables, and need advice making the right selection. Wedi vs Schluter vs one slope vs laticrete, vs etc. I'm trying to determine my "splash zone" with open curbless, no door shower area. Thanks
+Vince Filippone how big is your shower going to be? Sounds like you're ready to dive into the build phase 👍👍
Home Repair Tutor The size is somewhat negotiable. I have two definite walls and one wall I am going to build which will I close a toilet room. The placement of the wall is based on the shower pan I choose. The fourth side (opposite of shower head) will be open curb less and door less. Fun right? I wish I could show a photo, it would make sense.
Can u add red guard to the wedi system
Approx how much did it cost to complete walk-in shower? Materials, etc.?
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Great Video
what if the sub floor is not level? do you follow the floor or do you level the recessed and fill in the low spots with thin set?
Hey Jeff how would you fill in to raise a old Roman style tub and raise the drain for walk in shower?
What sort of staffs you used before to put that frame please??
Do you have to shut off the main water valve before installing the shower head ?
Do these shower pans have the slope built in to guide water to the drain? Can't tell looking at the video. The pans look flat. Thanks
yes, they’re pre-sloped and waterproof. Good question
Jeff, YOU are Soooooo Amazing!!!!
Home Repair Tutor, thank you very much for the video. I am going to do install one in the near future (maybe) based off your video. I recently bought a house and the last owner just installed a new tile shower (DIY project for sure). There are no leaks when it runs normally (regular shower), but one time I placed a wash cloth over the drain so my son had a few inches of water to play in. When I lifted the cloth to "drain" the shower, I had water leak downstairs. I think the water creates a little pressure as all that water is draining through the P trap after the drain. When I opened up the ceiling and replicated the "leak" it looked like it was leaking from the bottom of the drain. After watching your video, Im wondering if the installer simply didn't silicone the vinyl to the actual drain. What are your thoughts on this? Is this normal? I don't want to tear a "new" shower out, but I also want to make sure it is done right.
Thanks in advance for your help!
What did you do at the transition form shower to bathroom?
You have any vids on doing this in a manufactured home?
How would this work in a home with concrete subfloors?
hello . Is the wedi Fundo Ligno curbless shower pan. available in South Africa
Hi Toni, we're not sure but Wedi's distributor locator will help us.wedi.de/contact-where-to-buy-wedi/distributor-search/
What is the reason behind cutting out the osb on the floor and recessing it where you are putting the pan lower on the joists? Is this just a option or is that how it has to be done? Thanks getting ready to do our Custom built shower in our new house
So your tile is the same level as the rest of your bathroom floor instead of using a curb
Can you use this product for a mobile home?
Couple questions - looks like they were asked previously but no answers:
1) These can be cut? The shower are I need to do is only ~ 3ft sq
2) My drain extends out into the garage - shower enclosure is on a base sitting on garage floor and tight - I'm assuming can't attach the drain until after installation?
Thanks for the video
+Jeff Ribordy Wedi pans can be cut to size but there are limitations based on the instructions. You'd want to set the drain and drop the pan over it. So have all the plumbing in place if you don't have access underneath it. Hope that helps
how easy it is?...I think its harder to do in my opinion but I do think its better.
+Jacob Galvan it's simpler than other options and carries a warranty
If you have a framer do the cut out and fur down then a plumber install the tub I agree...I do think this is a great product and just having that peace of mind that your shower is not going to leak into your living room is great.
Hey I have a question about the wedi curbs. I have a 36x36 shower pan I need to install. I have it in the corner with the walls on the back and right. The rest I would place a curb and being open making a full square. My question is. Can I I mount glass to those wedi curbs with a door? Or should I build up. If I build up and put wedi over it?
Loved the video
+Fariouz hope it helps 👍
RIP tile. I heard that!
+Dloweification ?
Home Repair Tutor 12:50 he steps on the tiles and sounds like one breaks. RIP tile. also, great video! very helpful!
jovantapia or 3 or 4 lol.
Dloweification qFaL
I'm dying' dude! What a dildo!
Going to use the Fundo Ligno as tub replacement (36x60"). The subfloor is 3/4" strand board, the Ligno is 3/4". When I put down a 1/4" wonder board/Wedi board won't that raise it up over the Ligno pan? or do you keep it that 1/4' high and bevel it down into pan with morter to make for of a run to the drain? I would not tile directly over 3/4 strand subfloor. Thanks and appreciate your video's.
+Jim Fiascone we'd recommend using DITRA as it's only 1/8" thick, allows you to completely waterproof the surrounding floor and stops tiles from cracking. In addition, add the Wedi Subliner over the pan and the DITRA for extra waterproofing. Wedi does have Subliner Flex which could be a solution for you as well. We have not used it though
Q: I cut my Wedi pan lip a little too much, so there's about 1/2" space from where it joins the wall. Can I just fill that in with Sausage? Or is there another technique? I can cut a small strip off another panel and put it in (also)? Thx.
Shower head, hand held & body sprays.
How many sprays? We use the IPC here & often have to go to a 3" drain or two 2" drains.
Of course, if you're not getting inspected...
There may have been 2 body sprays, can't remember Frank.
Home Repair Tutor
It can be a pain sometimes. Works out nice with linear drains.
How can Install shower in concret floor as the waste pipe will come up from the ground plus I want like a wet room really? Thanks
So the age old question , do you install a pre sloped pan before u lay ur topping mix ? I am remodeling my sisters bathroom and there is a handful of ppl who do that and allot of other people who don’t and I havent heard a complaint yet , personally if you red guard the entire shower base and walls , no problem ! A little extra cost but .. set it and forget it . Keep up the good work brah ( side note I have been in the construction business for 17 years ) allot of demos and in my opinion on tear outs IF the contractor took the time to seal the base properly I have seen no evidence to support that theory )
Pre-Slope helps water drain properly under the topping mix, stagnant water that doesn't drain will lead to mold and mildew from below.
So if you take your time and seal the entire base and up the wall 2 feet with red guard water will still weep through ? I ask for evidence as respectful as I can , like all other good contractors if there is room for improvement which there always is , do it , it will save u the respect in your trade to not have to replace.
@@Carpenters_Canvas honestly, we don't do this type of installation because new pre-sloped shower pans are much easier and faster. We like Schluter, Wedi, KBRS, and Laticrete systems. The only mud pan we do is for curbless basement showers. The money spent on pre-sloped shower bases is saved in time and materials fixing mistakes down the road. Just one opinion
Home Repair Tutor * I appreciate the i site , as I said before I am constantly trying to keep up with all the newest products that are tested and proven to be better for reasons A B C , this is what real tradesmen do , consult with other craftsman in a constructive way , as we all know it isn’t about what makes us happy , knowing that when u leave a job and u did the best work every time for the costumers sake , I try to tell all of the so called craftsman money means nothing when ur working in someone’s home . I have called out other contractors who just mortared the tile to the advantec . He didn’t finish the job I tore it all out and restarted with the shluter system . Thank you for your time hopefully we can collaborate More in the future for the best results , there is no better feeling then walking away from a job proud and secure with your work. , is the wedi system pre sloped I couldn’t see it in the vid . Or actually u build the pan on top of this right ?
@Home Repair Tutor I am also doing a curbless walk in shower it’s amazing how intimidated homeowners get when they see the 500 dollar price on the shluter base but u can’t beat it ... just don’t spill any pipe primer on it it me
Tsk away lol
I used Custom Bedding Mortar for a shower pan, but there is an area that now needs a little additional slope. What product can I use on top of the bedding mortar to feather in some additional slope? It's only about 3 sq ft on one side of the drain that needs about 1/2 inch of additional rise along the edge of the pan.
Thank you.
Thank you for the great video! What is that black plastic looking clip in the stud in the background at 7:04?
Receptacle gang box. Probably low voltage like for cable/ethernet/hdmi and such since there is no back.
Why did you have to remove the existing subfloor and set the new OSB substrate flushed with the joists?
To allow the 3/4” thick pan to sit flush with the subfloor
Can you set the new pan over the existing deck, or can you lay a sheet of cement board over the existing deck, then place the pan over it?
sakana1977 That's exactly what I was thinking was what the hell LOL.... why remove subfloor and level for draining when the floor pan if installed on the proper slope will drain! Plus who would use cheap OSB board 😎
Is that cut romex at 2:09? Kinda looks like STEVE just effed that all up for ya...
I am glad that I am not the only one thinking about that!
What if you have concrete floor foundation?
All modern shower bases come in standard sizes right?
Can the pan be cut to size? My shower space is only 36 x 30. Or because the shower is flushed with the rest of the floor there is no need to cut it? My bathroom will be a wet room. The size of the shower will be determined by the back wall (48 inches and according to where I put my shower curtain rod which I am thinking a minimum of 30 inches from the back wall. I noticed that the smaller pan is 36 by 48.
I'm wanting to use cedar boards on my walls how can I do that
Just wondering why someone wouldn't add shut off to the shower since the walls and plumbing is open 🤔
because the Delta rough-in valve has integrated shutoffs
@@HomeRepairTutor oh okay thanks 🙂
@@micaonyx5301 happy to clarify, many rough-in valves have integrated shut offs as an option
It's realy interesting why do we need to use this system?
Is it cheaper than shower liner instalation wich gives you a complete waterproofing?
In my opinion it's a way harder than a liner instalation because you don't neeed to play with the framing.
+Andrii Pasichnyk here's the problem with liners, they're not always installed properly and a lot of people puncture them either on purpose at the framing or by accident. Plus who's providing the 10 year warranty, the installer? Wedi is waterproof on the surface and as long as you don't puncture the entire way through the foam your shower is protected from accidental cuts from tools. This system is also a curbless shower, meaning the homeowner simply walks or rolls into the shower. So the liner is mostly used for curbed systems. That's a big difference
thanks for your answer.
+Andrii Pasichnyk glad to help any time
I want to tear out a 36"x36" shower and replace it with a 48"x48". Existing shower pan is prefab fiberglass. Home is single-story on concrete slab.
I'm hoping to:
1) Remove existing shower pan
2) Apply thin set to concrete slab so floor slopes to the drain
3) Add perimeter curb
4) Install tile
Do I need a shower pan or barrier when installing shower on a concrete slab? Does water seep through tile grout and become a problem to the sub-surface?
t d did you get it done!? I'm actually wanting to do pretty much the same thing just maybe go a bit bigger if possible but probably same size. would love to hear your experience if you was able to get it done!
As a rule, tile and grout are not waterproof. A water barrier is needed before tiling. Otherwise, you're gtg.
I’m getting ready to build a walk in shower on a new construction build for our house my question is do you always need to cut the sub floor out and make it 3/4 lower or is that only for remodels? What is the purpose behind doing this? Thanks in advance
it’s best to make the shower tray area 3/4” lower so that the shower tray is flush with the main floor; the Wedi Fundo Ligno is 3/4” thick at the perimeter. This allows you to have the Curbless entrance 👍🏼
What if we are going to do a curb should I still make it 3/4 of an inch lower?
in that case, you can bond a Fundo Primo directly to your concrete; if this is your first Wedi shower you can get a rep to come out on your install day. Highly recommend doing that
Shower pan will be on a plywood floor I will check into getting a Rep to come out thank you I appreciate your helpful advice
12:51 I laughed when he broke those tiles
That’s why it is hexed shaped because it’s made to be hand tight... 🤔 right? At least a 1/4-1/2 turn to be sure with tools. But that’s just me.
how did you get the proper slope the lower shower pan? It looks like it is installed totally flat. Not sure how you make sure water runs to the center?
+G MM55 the Wedi Fundo Ligno is pre-sloped, so water will drain properly as long the subfloor is level. Does that answer your question?
From eye balling my bathroom I'm thinking I could remove the old bath tub frame I'll be able to see the pipes and reuse the pipes and just create the structure like the walls of a walk In shower
I accidentally ordered a 32 x 32 shower pan when I actually need a 36 x 36, would I be able to just add 2x4 to fit the shower pan ?
What kind of shower tray is it?
@@HomeRepairTutor tile redi!
I figured it wouldn’t be good to just add 2x4 so I just ended up ordering a 36 x 36 pan and hoping to be able to return the 32 x 32 pan
Bro you look a like henry cavill (superman)😂
lol 😂 thank you
I hide there too lol great work
Can the board be cut? I have a pipe that's boxed in one of my corners.
yes, then seal with Wedi Joint Sealant
What if there is a corner seat so it's not a perfect rectangle or square??
Where is the best place to buy the west system from? What's the average cost of the kit? Thank you.
What did this job cost you in materials? Roughly