I was eight at this time, and I went to see Alvin and the Chipmunks with my mom, and I loved it. Yes, it's an assembly line cartoon, but it gave me love for music that came before me and helped open my artistic mind. Not a good movie, but an important one for me, so I love it.
I went to a screening of "Ishtar" in January 2013 with Elaine May and Paul Williams as guests and Paul said it was really tough to write such bad songs!!! LOL
Ishtar seemed like a project of Vanity and delusions of grandeur by Beatty and Hoffman. Just 2 legends thinking yh lets just take the piss. MONSTROSITY.
I can admit that the Chipmunks' and Chippette's voices are annoying in The Chipmunk Adventure. The 80s cartoons are okay (although I kinda grew out of them), but the movies (especially the Chipmunk Adventure) grate on my ears everytime I even think about them. In comparison, Chip and Dale (a much better and more lovable pair of chipmunks) are not annoying with their voices, even when they sing.
I actually really liked Beverly Hills Cop II . Cop 1 is funnier but Cop II is a better action film . Regardless of the critical reviews it was the biggest film of summer of '87
I might be the only person who noticed this, but Ebert said that Ishtar was going to make their list for "the worst 10 movies of the year (1987)". But when you watch the worst of 1987 list, you notice that there is only 8 movies on that list.
I tried to watch Ishtar about ten years ago figuring a movie with that bad of a reputation might be fun to goif on. I couldn't even get to the part where they went to the Middle East 😕
Ishtar could've worked if Hoffman and Beatty had switched parts. Hoffman can be funny, as he was in Tootsie. I'd like to have seen the energy he brought to that movie in Ishtar, with him playing Beatty's part. And of course Beatty is a terrific actor, everyone knows that. He could've played Hoffman's part just reacting to the craziness going on around him. That's how you do a buddy picture. I didn't think Ishtar was all that bad, it just doesn't land. It's all setups without payoffs. They could've used a good script doctor.
Actually, I loved how Hoffman and Beatty played roles that defied expectations, funny to see Beatty all insecure and oblivious of his natural good looks, and hilarious to see Hoffman's quixotic, misplaced self-confidence. I found their chemistry and crappy songs hilarious, but then the movie lost me with the dumb endless action stuff.
Ishtar is not the worst movie ever. It’s not a great movie. It’s not even a good movie. It certainly doesn’t achieve what it set out to do. But it doesn’t deserve its reputation. That must’ve been from all the press at the time from its troubled (to say the least) production. It should’ve flopped, then been quietly forgotten as a great number of movies are.
It's kinda surprising to think that Ebert gives 1 star to Beverly Hills Cop II in his written review back in 1987 and yet 10 years later in 1997, he gives 2 stars to Batman & Robin in his written review.
I doubt any of the film was at 24fps. Disney would animate each frame but most animation is every other frame and in japan its every 3rd frame as the standard. I would suspect that it shifts from 2 to 3 based on budget and time constraints
@@ChicCanyon Looking at the sequence I am thinking of, you are right. It's not 24fps but it's still impressive and it was done by a great Disney legend, Dan Haskett.
I saw Amazing Grace and Chuck when i was a freshman in college, and i HATED IT! I was probably too harsh in my judgment at the time because I couldn't get past how silly and unrealistic the story was, or how awful and amateurish the actor was who played Chuck. Someday I hope to be able to give the movie another chance
Ishtar. They wanted to make an old style Bob Hope/Bing Crosby type Road picture, but it wasn't funny, Dustin Hoffman and Warren Beatty had no chemistry whatsoever, and what the heck was the plot all about anyway? Yeah, no one cared about the plot in the Road pictures, but no one went to a Road picture for the plot. They went for comedy. Ishtar fails on both. What a sad final director credit for Elaine May. She was capable of so much better.
The script wasn't good either. Speaking of the whole franchise, Beverly Hills Cop never really did it's original concept justice. They are simply generic action films with a comedian.
Ishtar was moronic, stupid, idiotic, one of the worst movies ever made, and I laughed all the way through it. I still get "Telling the truth is dangerous business" stuck in my head.
Way to harsch on Beverly Hills Cop 2. I always thought it was entertaining. The third one was a real stinker though, and that movie really put Murphy on a downfall.
*Agreed, the sequel is highly underrated. Siskel pisses away a great deal of critical credibility in not thinking much of the original, which is a classic of American filmmaking.*
I don't understand their virulent hatred towards it but it's definitely an uninspired film just like the whole series. None of the three BHC movies really exploit the concept of a Detroit cop in Beverly Hills.
dustin hoffman was hilarious in tootsie, one of my favorite films of all time, i totally agree with you on ishtar, it's a hard to believe that the studio columbia pictures who gave us two great dustin hoffman movies, kramer vs. kramer and tootsie stoop this low with this mess and leonard part 6, fortunately la bamba said it.
Dustin Hoffman is a funny actor!!! He sure is funny in "Tootsie" and also in "Meet The Fockers" and also in "Dick Tracy" opposite Warren Beatty who is also a funny actor in "Heaven Can Wait". But they are NOT funny in "Ishtar" which IS a terrible movie!!!
I watched about 5 minutes of Ishtar on TH-cam and shut it off. Then watched this review, and I remember S&E hating it in the 80s. Their program was more entertaining than a lot of movies
I was eight at this time, and I went to see Alvin and the Chipmunks with my mom, and I loved it. Yes, it's an assembly line cartoon, but it gave me love for music that came before me and helped open my artistic mind. Not a good movie, but an important one for me, so I love it.
I went to a screening of "Ishtar" in January 2013 with Elaine May and Paul Williams as guests and Paul said it was really tough to write such bad songs!!! LOL
I recently watched Ipcress for the first time and really enjoyed it.
At 5:20, Roger Ebert's prediction about Eddie Murphy eventually came true, to the letter.
Ishtar seemed like a project of Vanity and delusions of grandeur by Beatty and Hoffman. Just 2 legends thinking yh lets just take the piss. MONSTROSITY.
I remember when simply saying Ishtar meant the absolute worst movie ever made..😅
Yup.
I can’t believe I saw this in the theater.
@@svsugvcarter Howard the Duck also
If not the worst, then definitely one of the biggest box office bombs in cinema history.
@@thekingofmovies193 Ishtar was code for box office bomb for many years until people forgot about it..
I can admit that the Chipmunks' and Chippette's voices are annoying in The Chipmunk Adventure. The 80s cartoons are okay (although I kinda grew out of them), but the movies (especially the Chipmunk Adventure) grate on my ears everytime I even think about them. In comparison, Chip and Dale (a much better and more lovable pair of chipmunks) are not annoying with their voices, even when they sing.
I actually really liked Beverly Hills Cop II . Cop 1 is funnier but Cop II is a better action film . Regardless of the critical reviews it was the biggest film of summer of '87
I might be the only person who noticed this, but Ebert said that Ishtar was going to make their list for "the worst 10 movies of the year (1987)". But when you watch the worst of 1987 list, you notice that there is only 8 movies on that list.
I first heard of Ishtar while watching "Growing Pains" reruns and even they were dunking on it
Siskel and Ebert didn't like the first Beverly Hills Cop either. And there is some truth to their reviews, but they were still fun.
Ishtar was supposed to be like Hope and Crosby one of the problems was they were both playing Hope.
I tried to watch Ishtar about ten years ago figuring a movie with that bad of a reputation might be fun to goif on. I couldn't even get to the part where they went to the Middle East 😕
Was Ishtar intentionally bad?
I like Amazong Grace and Chuck.
“Beverly Hills Cop 2” (1987)
Review: 1:03
Recap: 20:13
I wanted to see the whole review of Ishtar It was on their worst of 1987 show I want to see if it really was as bad as people said
Ishtar could've worked if Hoffman and Beatty had switched parts. Hoffman can be funny, as he was in Tootsie. I'd like to have seen the energy he brought to that movie in Ishtar, with him playing Beatty's part. And of course Beatty is a terrific actor, everyone knows that. He could've played Hoffman's part just reacting to the craziness going on around him. That's how you do a buddy picture. I didn't think Ishtar was all that bad, it just doesn't land. It's all setups without payoffs. They could've used a good script doctor.
Actually, I loved how Hoffman and Beatty played roles that defied expectations, funny to see Beatty all insecure and oblivious of his natural good looks, and hilarious to see Hoffman's quixotic, misplaced self-confidence. I found their chemistry and crappy songs hilarious, but then the movie lost me with the dumb endless action stuff.
Ishtar is not the worst movie ever. It’s not a great movie. It’s not even a good movie. It certainly doesn’t achieve what it set out to do. But it doesn’t deserve its reputation. That must’ve been from all the press at the time from its troubled (to say the least) production. It should’ve flopped, then been quietly forgotten as a great number of movies are.
It's kinda surprising to think that Ebert gives 1 star to Beverly Hills Cop II in his written review back in 1987 and yet 10 years later in 1997, he gives 2 stars to Batman & Robin in his written review.
Seems on point to me
Notice how inconsistent the animation is in those Chipmunk Adventure clips. One looks like a smooth 24fps. Another is roughly half that frame rate.
And another looks like the photo on your counterfeit green card.
@@danorthsidemang3834 I was born in the States, stupid.
I doubt any of the film was at 24fps. Disney would animate each frame but most animation is every other frame and in japan its every 3rd frame as the standard. I would suspect that it shifts from 2 to 3 based on budget and time constraints
@@ChicCanyon
Looking at the sequence I am thinking of, you are right. It's not 24fps but it's still impressive and it was done by a great Disney legend, Dan Haskett.
I saw Amazing Grace and Chuck when i was a freshman in college, and i HATED IT! I was probably too harsh in my judgment at the time because I couldn't get past how silly and unrealistic the story was, or how awful and amateurish the actor was who played Chuck. Someday I hope to be able to give the movie another chance
Ishtar. They wanted to make an old style Bob Hope/Bing Crosby type Road picture, but it wasn't funny, Dustin Hoffman and Warren Beatty had no chemistry whatsoever, and what the heck was the plot all about anyway? Yeah, no one cared about the plot in the Road pictures, but no one went to a Road picture for the plot. They went for comedy. Ishtar fails on both. What a sad final director credit for Elaine May. She was capable of so much better.
Star Wars Holiday Special > Ishtar.
I always thought Tony Scott was a bad choice for Beverly Hills Cop #2...really obnoxious
The script wasn't good either. Speaking of the whole franchise, Beverly Hills Cop never really did it's original concept justice. They are simply generic action films with a comedian.
Martin brest was an awesome director for the first. Tony Scott was a hack.
These guys hated Eddie Murphy at the time and they hated Beverly Hill Cop 1 and 2. But those movies cleaned up because people loved them.
They didn't hate Murphy though. They thought he was a brilliant comedian who was wasted in action movies. They loved him in Trading Places.
This whole review is them praising him and saying the movie didn't showcase his abilities enough
Ishtar was moronic, stupid, idiotic, one of the worst movies ever made, and I laughed all the way through it. I still get "Telling the truth is dangerous business" stuck in my head.
Way to harsch on Beverly Hills Cop 2. I always thought it was entertaining. The third one was a real stinker though, and that movie really put Murphy on a downfall.
until the nutty professor of course.
*Agreed, the sequel is highly underrated. Siskel pisses away a great deal of critical credibility in not thinking much of the original, which is a classic of American filmmaking.*
I don't understand their virulent hatred towards it but it's definitely an uninspired film just like the whole series. None of the three BHC movies really exploit the concept of a Detroit cop in Beverly Hills.
Beverly Hills Cop 2 👎🌟🌟
Ishtar 👎🌟
Chipmunk Adventure 👎🌟🌟
Amazing Grace & Chuck 👍🌟🌟🌟
*Wrong. Wrong. Wrong on Beverly Hills Cop 2.*
@@MattSingh1
Title to your opinion
Cop 2 was such a disappointment. Maybe the worst sequel ever made.
Ishtar is one of the worst movies ever. Bad script yes. But how about the casting? Beatty and Hoffman aren´t funny actors.
dustin hoffman was hilarious in tootsie, one of my favorite films of all time, i totally agree with you on ishtar, it's a hard to believe that the studio columbia pictures who gave us two great dustin hoffman movies, kramer vs. kramer and tootsie stoop this low with this mess and leonard part 6, fortunately la bamba said it.
luckily meryl streep and jessica lange didn't appear on this trash called ishtar, that woud have ruined their careers.
Dustin Hoffman is a funny actor!!! He sure is funny in "Tootsie" and also in "Meet The Fockers" and also in "Dick Tracy" opposite Warren Beatty who is also a funny actor in "Heaven Can Wait". But they are NOT funny in "Ishtar" which IS a terrible movie!!!
Charles Grodin sure is funny in the movie though!!!
I watched about 5 minutes of Ishtar on TH-cam and shut it off. Then watched this review, and I remember S&E hating it in the 80s. Their program was more entertaining than a lot of movies