I was at this performance. The Maestro introduced it by telling how Prince Nikolaus Esterhazy, Haydn's patron, had extended his stay at his summer palace in Hungary well into the autumn, keeping Haydn and his musicians away from their families in Vienna. He then said, "So Haydn decided to write a symphony and at the end, well, you'll see..."
Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven lived in the same age..the best of bests..Haydn was (probably) the only person who met both..That's why His compositions are so rich and inspiring.
I'm not sure, but they say Beethoven met Mozart too. He wanted to study under Mozart and even plaied for him, but because of family circumstances Ludwig had to move back to Bonn. When he was able to leave for Vienna again, Mozart was already dead, so he started his lessons with Haydn.
@@crimsonkhan3815 I don't have any "serious" books on this, but check this here: www.classicfm.com/composers/beethoven/guides/beethoven-and-mozart/ I heard about it somewhere else anyway
@@crimsonkhan3815 The accepted scholarly view is that Beethoven did *not* meet Mozart; he did however hear him play once on a visit to Vienna in 1787, and was in fact quite disparaging about some technical aspects of Mozart’s playing, calling it choppy - ie no legato. The sugary, simplified, and slightly childish Classicfm item referred to elsewhere relies too much on doubtful, spurious and/or very much later anecdotal sources and also contains some ridiculous hyperbole such as describing Beethoven’s ‘...great ambition ...to travel to Vienna to meet - and take lessons with - the man he knew was the greatest living composer, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’. Why add in ‘greatest living composer’? - he was certainly not so considered in 1787. Why Wolfgang *Amadeus* Mozart ? Is there some doubt as to whom we are referring ? Beethoven did go to Vienna to seek lessons, but we know from subsequent events, that what he needed was *counterpoint* lessons - a form of musical grammar. We know this, as that is precisely what he took from Haydn from 1792, and then, when Haydn left for England again, from the greatest teacher in Vienna - Albrechtsberger - from 1794. A quick glance at Mozart’s schedule would suggest any lessons with Mozart would have been as unsuccessful as those with the equally busy Haydn, for exactly the same reasons. Additionally, what Mozart would have made of Beethoven’s much newer keyboard technique is a moot question; when faced with it in the form of Clementi in the famous contest arranged by the Emperor at Christmas 1781, Mozart was damning about Clementi’s tricks such as playing in octaves, and simply called him a ‘mechanicus’. Beethoven came to understand the greatness of Mozart in time, as did the rest of the world, but only posthumously. To describe Mozart’s status in 1787 as Classicfm have done, is as ridiculous, and anachronistic as it is inaccurate. In summary: Classicfm - and others - are guilty of being a little too keen to create links, sometimes indeed a sort of romanticised, apocryphal, fake mythology between Mozart and Beethoven that simply does not exist; Beethoven discovered Mozart through study, and through what Haydn later would have told him about Mozart.
@@mxethanollan Saint-George's Concert des Amateurs had around 80 members in the same period, so larger orchestras did exist. Haydn's orchestra was around this size, though. The Concert Hall at Schloss Esterhazy does not have room for much more. This is a quite accurate historically informed performance, as should be expected, since that is Mercury's specialty.
It is *not* supposed to be funny; this symphony is one of the most complex and profound works in the 18th century symphonic repertoire, and this movement the final resolution - indeed the apotheosis - of the whole work. Any attempt at comedy at any point in this symphony would be as incongruous as putting peanut butter on lobster.
I was a bassist and I thought it was cool that we were the first to leave. Look up the story behind this piece, it’s pretty rock n roll really.
I was at this performance. The Maestro introduced it by telling how Prince Nikolaus Esterhazy, Haydn's patron, had extended his stay at his summer palace in Hungary well into the autumn, keeping Haydn and his musicians away from their families in Vienna. He then said, "So Haydn decided to write a symphony and at the end, well, you'll see..."
Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven lived in the same age..the best of bests..Haydn was (probably) the only person who met both..That's why His compositions are so rich and inspiring.
I'm not sure, but they say Beethoven met Mozart too. He wanted to study under Mozart and even plaied for him, but because of family circumstances Ludwig had to move back to Bonn. When he was able to leave for Vienna again, Mozart was already dead, so he started his lessons with Haydn.
@@aniolka766 can you give a reference?
@@crimsonkhan3815 I don't have any "serious" books on this, but check this here: www.classicfm.com/composers/beethoven/guides/beethoven-and-mozart/ I heard about it somewhere else anyway
@@crimsonkhan3815
The accepted scholarly view is that Beethoven did *not* meet Mozart; he did however hear him play once on a visit to Vienna in 1787, and was in fact quite disparaging about some technical aspects of Mozart’s playing, calling it choppy - ie no legato.
The sugary, simplified, and slightly childish Classicfm item referred to elsewhere relies too much on doubtful, spurious and/or very much later anecdotal sources and also contains some ridiculous hyperbole such as describing Beethoven’s ‘...great ambition ...to travel to Vienna to meet - and take lessons with - the man he knew was the greatest living composer, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’.
Why add in ‘greatest living composer’? - he was certainly not so considered in 1787.
Why Wolfgang *Amadeus* Mozart ?
Is there some doubt as to whom we are referring ?
Beethoven did go to Vienna to seek lessons, but we know from subsequent events, that what he needed was *counterpoint* lessons - a form of musical grammar.
We know this, as that is precisely what he took from Haydn from 1792, and then, when Haydn left for England again, from the greatest teacher in Vienna - Albrechtsberger - from 1794.
A quick glance at Mozart’s schedule would suggest any lessons with Mozart would have been as unsuccessful as those with the equally busy Haydn, for exactly the same reasons.
Additionally, what Mozart would have made of Beethoven’s much newer keyboard technique is a moot question; when faced with it in the form of Clementi in the famous contest arranged by the Emperor at Christmas 1781, Mozart was damning about Clementi’s tricks such as playing in octaves, and simply called him a ‘mechanicus’.
Beethoven came to understand the greatness of Mozart in time, as did the rest of the world, but only posthumously.
To describe Mozart’s status in 1787 as Classicfm have done, is as ridiculous, and anachronistic as it is inaccurate.
In summary: Classicfm - and others - are guilty of being a little too keen to create links, sometimes indeed a sort of romanticised, apocryphal, fake mythology between Mozart and Beethoven that simply does not exist; Beethoven discovered Mozart through study, and through what Haydn later would have told him about Mozart.
@@aniolka766
You might find my comment above of some interest.
Is that a anime opening
pozdrawiam z polskiego
A ja z muzyki
ja z muzyki ;)
+1 też muzyka
Ja z zadania od polaka XD
Oj tak
This is so cool dude!
I wish to get the full "Farewell" symphony of this event!
How to end a Symphony. Level: Haydn.
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3:09 Goodbye!
Jot Es or Auf Wiedersehen!!
Kto musi to oglądać na polskim
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@@igor9403 Ja na muzyce
ja też
ha 5:58
Очень хорошее исполнение!
so we're playing this in orchestra at half the written speed and i had no idea it was this fast .-.
It's a "presto"...
1:58 adaigio
im in music class and have to do this beautiful
TryhardWxlf NEEEEE
Muzyka
Would love to hear a bigger orchestra play the whole symphony
@@mxethanollan
Caveat lector - much of what you have written here is plain wrong, and the rest is just inaccurate, simplified generalisations.
@@mxethanollan Saint-George's Concert des Amateurs had around 80 members in the same period, so larger orchestras did exist. Haydn's orchestra was around this size, though. The Concert Hall at Schloss Esterhazy does not have room for much more. This is a quite accurate historically informed performance, as should be expected, since that is Mercury's specialty.
Try watching the Wiener Philharmoniker performance from New Years 2009.
No.45, not 43
Bruh wer muss das auch für die Schule anhören
🤝
yup
🌚👋🏼
1:57
no i
@@hambi7510 XD też nwm o co kaman
@@notmilka3578 xd no
@@hambi7510 ja tu jestem bo pani z Muzyki kazała to COŚ wysłuchaś 😶
@@notmilka3578 mi też
krasses video
Xd lololol🤩🤩🥵
no Dnień dobry
Dowodzenia 😑
ogr
Wer muss sich den mist auch für die Schule anhören 😺✋
Xd
ey leute es gibt auch biotopen unter uns
GG i won a round of Fortnite
COPRA Me too
Wow
GG wp
pass mal lieber im unterricht auf junge
WTF SEIT IHR SCHLECHT JUNGE BOAH
Am I the only one who expected a little more comedy from the conductor?
Chris Glow Nein!!
It is *not* supposed to be funny; this symphony is one of the most complex and profound works in the 18th century symphonic repertoire, and this movement the final resolution - indeed the apotheosis - of the whole work.
Any attempt at comedy at any point in this symphony would be as incongruous as putting peanut butter on lobster.
słabe
Jojo bizzare adventure opening
нравиться смотреть за действиями дирижёра:)
lol
spaß
its awful++
1:58