"Zenless Zone Zero is a Gooner Game"

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  • @HydratedChampion
    @HydratedChampion หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Yes it is

  • @UrickSan92
    @UrickSan92 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    People who play Z3 dont even play for the suggestive themes, its to get those sick combos with their bangboos

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@UrickSan92 I love the bangboos 😂

    • @PessimisticSkeptic
      @PessimisticSkeptic หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's is sooo not true and you know it lol

    • @TV-MA.x_x.
      @TV-MA.x_x. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Troll comment

    • @UrickSan92
      @UrickSan92 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you play the game for?

    • @priyokonsam9274
      @priyokonsam9274 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah i play just for fight

  • @ChrissAtrocious
    @ChrissAtrocious หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I hope this video gets more views because you made a lot of good points without beating down on any side of the argument. Great job🎉

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that, thank you!

  • @irondavinci
    @irondavinci หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yet again, Mantras doesn't miss! I originally got into Nikke for exactly how it advertised itself thinking I'd put it down in a week or two. Still, the story is unironically good and the gacha rates and devs are super generous so it always feels rewarding to play for more than the visuals. I got into Snowbreak a few months after launch and came back for the anniversary a little while ago and it's...very different....but I agree that the gameplay itself is still solid. I've been playing Hoyo games since HI3 in 2017 and I think ZZZ is just as fun and immersive as their other entries, and it fits in well, marketing aside.

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the support! I couldn’t have put it better myself. I got into Nikke for the girls but ended up playing it for months due to the story and character writing as well.

  • @elixxon
    @elixxon หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You forgot the third type of person calling it a gooner game: the ones who have a pfp and full history of horny games and being horny on main. They tend to deflect as much as they can for example by shittalking artists and people just conversing under the shield of the word "criticism", and deflecting with "I'm not criticizing the game!".
    Being unashamedly an absolute coomer themselves they just farm clout and positive feedback by attacking art and individuals that even fully lines up with the game's at and direction throwing around buzzwords and name-calling.
    Most of the noise on social media are just not valid arguements let alone a genuine stance.

  • @moonum4567
    @moonum4567 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Its ok if it is a gooner game. People attribute the word "gooner" onto anything that is remotely heterosexual or lust provoking, just another buzzword to throw in the pile of meaningless words.

    • @elixxon
      @elixxon หลายเดือนก่อน

      "remotely heterosexual"
      These people look at the gayest depiction of female characters and call it gooner and "serving for the male gaze".
      They just hate depictions of attractive women that aim to be a beautiful work of art in general.

    • @TheStephaneAdam
      @TheStephaneAdam หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pandering. The word is pandering. You'Re just being defensive and playing the victim.
      C'mon dude. NOBODY's gonna look at Nikke and think "hmmm, this game is certainly offensively heterosexual." It's not subtle, it's not hiding it. At all.
      As you said, it's OK if it's a gooner game. Whatever people is finding fun is perfectly fine. Just don't get defensivve about it, own it and go on with your life.
      "Oh yeah, that game is an absolute thirst trap. But it's a FUN thirst trap with a stellar story once you get through the first impression!"

  • @HeroMysticLYX
    @HeroMysticLYX หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The problem here is the audience. The Hoyoverse community is not used to these aspects being pushed. People got thrown for a loop when Jade's trailer happened in HSR. So yeah, Zenless has bigger emphasis on sexual appeal in it's marketing. It's also important to note that there's been an upward trend fanservice as well.
    I also wouldn't call Snowbreak a 7/10 when it does everything that Nikke does including the jiggle physics during ultimates. And if Nikke is a 10/10, is Brown Dust 2 a 20/10? XD
    Btw, your voicework is solid and easily understandable. Hope you go far as a CC.

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @HeroMysticLYX Thanks for the feedback. Funnily enough I was going to rate Snowbreak higher but when I was going through the charactes default outfits I realized they weren't as crazy as Nikke's default outfits, so it dropped a little bit lower on the goon scale.
      I wanted to include a Brown Dust 2 section but I literally could not show most of the animations in that game without the video being taken down or heavily suppressed so i left it out lmaoo

    • @HeroMysticLYX
      @HeroMysticLYX หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itsmantras lol I completely understand. BD2 is wild.

  • @gachamanmuse
    @gachamanmuse หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Listen I love Z3 and all but it leans more Gooner than Genshin and Star Rail. I believe the reason why Z3 is getting hit with these allegations is because the audience is being pulled from Genshin and Star Rail more than any other Gacha. Snowbreak and Nikke are not the go to games for the ppl who are complaining. Genshin and Star Rail pulled in a lot of Normies so now the Normies are experiencing the Whiplash. Even Wuwa stays pretty clean. Hell, the Cinema 6s in Z3 are very suggestive and most of the trailers really zoom in on the "physics" and feet shots. Try just walking with Zhu Yuan, there are other characters too but Z3 only has 5, age appropriate characters to mention.

    • @talkingtakotaco8611
      @talkingtakotaco8611 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So to my understanding, it's a lot of people used to a cleaner image exposed to only slightly more mature images, like people going from mayo to mustard and calling it hot sauce.

    • @elixxon
      @elixxon หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most of the noise are not players or even if there is "evidence" of them playing the game they are not playing any other gacha.
      There is a really weird brigading on the official subreddit r/ZZZ_Official where a lot of absolute tourists that are mostly either not even gamers at all or don't play any game like ZZZ and their other games have zero overlap with it have been coming out of the woodwork to complain about literally everything that's not actually ingame, like cutscenes you can watch on TH-cam, fanart, official artwork, etc. and are trying very hard to just shame and bully the actual community out of the subreddit with little success but being a constant annoyance still.
      The apparently singular moderator running the subreddit also tries constantly to push ludicrous levels of automoderation and puritan rules of what should and shouldn't be posted, they just can't keep up alone with the subreddit's traffic so it doesn't look as bad as it is because they sweep the subreddit whenever they come online sometimes after days.
      This spill out to other social media too. This literally just boil down to a few mentally ill keyboard activists cloutchasing backed by a reddit moderator in sole control of the official subreddit

    • @Luxgen-mp5bb
      @Luxgen-mp5bb หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just give it a few more months so new gachas release and then the normies, and specially haters, will move on to the new trending game. Then, only the true ZZZ fans were will remain, aka people that just want to have fun with the game.

  • @BobEscanor
    @BobEscanor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everyone calling Z3 a gooner game hasn’t played a gooner game

  • @Koyuki_Yukihime
    @Koyuki_Yukihime หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Western tourist being tourist , trying to force their sensibility on to others .
    just let them be , they have no effect on the game direction anyway .
    I also play Nikke and doing Nikke Cosplay too got about 20 costume now lol .
    Nikke is very popular in my country , lots of doujinshi , other fan-made goods and Cosplayer good .
    I'm not heavily invest in it , mostly play to find character to cosplay .
    and I heard "blue field" from FF VIII in the background !!

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Koyuki_Yukihime OMG YOU RECOGNIZED THE FINAL FANTASY MUSIC!? I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU A PRIZE LMAO I love using FF music in my videos

    • @Koyuki_Yukihime
      @Koyuki_Yukihime หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itsmantras coincidentally FFVIII is my most favorite FF , and FF series as a whole is my fav franchise lol .

  • @Piromysl359
    @Piromysl359 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I wilfully entered the place full of things I don't like and now I'm nad. How could this happen to me?"
    Like, seriously... This game was literally advertised to be filled with fanservice abd and is 16+

  • @missSwatch
    @missSwatch 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    even if its not a gooner game, it doesn’t excuse sexualised design of these teens/kids. title it however u want

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@missSwatch I’ll never forgive them for Lucy’s design bro 😂

  • @Culturedknight
    @Culturedknight หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I mean whats wrong with a little goon antics the snow flakes just need to stop judgeing the gooners and just vibe with the waifus

    • @TV-MA.x_x.
      @TV-MA.x_x. หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Culturedknight Usually triggered women on Twitter mad that fictional women are being sexualized or god forbid, you play games to relax and looking at lewd characters pleases you.

  • @TungNguyen-ql7cg
    @TungNguyen-ql7cg 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you forgot ww camellya :)))

  • @OnigoroshiZero
    @OnigoroshiZero หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, kids with no experience in life or games, that hate ZZZ because it is more popular than whatever trash they like, cry about it, and say that it is for people addicted to adult content as an insult...
    edit: Regardless of whatever ZZZ is, it is definitely a much better game in every single aspect than anything these kids like.

    • @yatmo
      @yatmo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Try the zelda games they are 100x better

  • @legacymse7095
    @legacymse7095 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anime stuff has always been closely associated with lewd stuff. Tourists just don't know it yet. And since Hoyo games are filled with tourists well...

  • @MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p
    @MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, Z3 does contain *a little* suggestive tidbits in character interactions... but nowhere near Snowbreak, Nikke and others...

  • @Cytryz
    @Cytryz หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a good reputation. You don’t want these types of dumb people that write it off and or are bad faith about the game in your spaces. Let them think what they are want and go sour other games. Also those that are anti fanservice are very obnoxious and again best to go elsewhere.

  • @danielkurtz3045
    @danielkurtz3045 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't care if it is. In fact, I want it to be even more of a gooner game. Why would I not want the beautiful women to have more sex appeal? lol

  • @VonLycaonsDogCollar
    @VonLycaonsDogCollar 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    gooner bait or not jane is best rat 🗿

  • @bayumahendra1797
    @bayumahendra1797 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play with H mod, best way to enjoy this game

  • @arzr_er
    @arzr_er หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes it is and I love it

  • @fairywest7557
    @fairywest7557 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So it's not a gooner game but it's advertized as one, wich makes that 60% of the players (or more) are in fact porn addicts (in summary).

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @fairywest7557 LMAOO well that's one way to look at it

  • @Antonixo5060
    @Antonixo5060 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's just a gooner game. Stop

  • @iknothatukno
    @iknothatukno 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't play it, so clearly is is not.

  • @cartoonvideos5
    @cartoonvideos5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate these zoomer and tiktik terms

  • @cosmefulanito5052
    @cosmefulanito5052 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes it is. All gachas are.

  • @mikebeno363
    @mikebeno363 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ZZ is defo a gooner game

    • @dtariushale2511
      @dtariushale2511 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Any amount of fan-service doesn't automatically equal gooner game. That's an L take. Rewatch the vid dude explains very well and gave you several examples of actual gooner games..... Nikke and snowbreak are gooner games.

  • @sahargenish7058
    @sahargenish7058 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is Stellar Blade a gooner game? If you say no, because it has a deep combat system, and a lot of Eve's outfits are not revealing, you're lying to yourself

    • @GilgaMax305
      @GilgaMax305 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The irony is that I prefer to wear the cooler outfits for Eve (despite how limited they are). Never been a fan of overly sexual outfits.

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stellar Blade def is a gooner game but that doesn't make it bad or diminish how well done the combat is. Stellar Blade is one of the best games to come out this year

    • @sahargenish7058
      @sahargenish7058 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itsmantras agree. I never said that a game that appeal to a certain demographic with sexualized themes is a bad thing. I just pointed the fact that it's there, and it's deliberate. Nothing wrong with sexy, badass characters. I mentioned that, because if stelar blade is a gooner game, zzz is definitely a gooner game as well

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sahargenish7058 If you've got different standards on what qualifies as a gooner game for you then that's perfectly fine. As I said in the video, Z3 just doesn't have enough sexualization in-game for me to consider it a gooner game, especially when compared to the in-game content of other gacha games that market similarly. For Stellar Blade specifically, I think the sexualization of its main character far surpasses anything done in Z3.

    • @sahargenish7058
      @sahargenish7058 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itsmantras I admit that I never actually played the game, and I was ready to admit I was wrong, but after watching some stuff on youtube, I can say confidently that z3 is 100% a gooner game. It seems like most of the females in the game have big boobs, exaggerated jiggle physics, and revealing clothing. They also pick camera angles that accentuates the sexiness in cut scenes. Again, nothing wrong with that. I just state my observations. Sorry if my English is bad. Not my first language

  • @nodbynobdy
    @nodbynobdy หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video convinced me not to play zzz

    • @itsmantras
      @itsmantras  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you might like Brown Dust 2 lmaoo

  • @qs2808
    @qs2808 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You’re reading too much into this, it is a gooner game, you ignored the jiggle physics, the trailers, the character menu, and why would they add a shower scene, it does not contribute to plot whatsoever ? Obviously they use fan service to market their game, the other games you showed seem tame

    • @jellogecko
      @jellogecko หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jiggle physics on the bangboo do something to me...

    • @AzraelVT
      @AzraelVT หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      tell me you havent watched the video without telling me you havent watched the video

    • @fairywest7557
      @fairywest7557 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the man has a point

    • @katsuwen
      @katsuwen หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AzraelVTright ...