"See that son? That is called a human and is a predator like us. Its not as strong or fast as we are but its part of a VERY big pack and if you attack it the whole pack will come after you so always leave it alone" - wolf mom
in terms of strength and maneuverability we are actually more scary than bears from a wolves perspective. a fit fully grown human in fight mode can dislocate the wolves jaws or punch/kick the air out of it's lungs. with higher accuracy and less blind spots than a horse or deer. add a basic weapon like a thick tree branch we are 2x as deadly and un-reachable. in flight mode we can't run as fast but we can run far longer.
@@psionx1 thats the thing with us humans, it don't matter if we can run longer than a bear, that bear is twice our speed and will catch up Long before that is ever a problem. Defensively, our speed leaves us vulnerable, offensively with persistence hunting no animal is safe on land.
One would imagine it's like how elephants avoid bees. Sure they're bigger and deadly one on one but man if you rile up that hive you're going to need to leave that area and not come back for a long while.
@@vaterix4202 actually it's pretty useless... Unless u have a crazed mind and just want to watch people n places decimated.. It will put u on the opposite side of humanity and u can't really use any resources u nuke.. It's just a tool the informed will fear ..for everything and everyone else..it's just an object
I have a feeling that the Leopard Seel death was not intentionally trying to kill but was an attempt to play. They are surrounded by creatures that can survive under water for long periods of time so probably had no idea humans couldn't do it
@@daandevos122 i mean its not so uncommo nthat htey also drowen seals ,penguins etc by playing around with them so its prob like oh no ,,,another toy ,,broke ,,, :( ......well ,,,lets find another one
It's also important to note about that one and only wild orca bite on that surfer who survived: If you get bitten by literally-an-orca, and you *survive,* then the orca wasn't trying to kill you. Who knows why it bit the guy, but it definitely decided not to kill him.
For REAL. The thing is a tank-sized death machine. There wouldn't be a toe left of you for someone to realize something went wrong, just "lost at sea." I think we're all being a bit optimistic to believe they will _never_ eat a person.
It was a surfer so like a lot of Great White attacks it likely thought the surf board was a seal and when it got a taste of the human and went "Woah! That was not a seal WTF!"
He was probably being a dick. Orcas are self aware. We don't classify them as the same level as us only becuase they don't use tools or build houses. Neither of which they would need in there native environments and they aren't equipped to leave the ocean. A true aquatic species would likely stay in the pre Stone age. As everything they need is either already there or a part of there body. We see this in dolphins and Orcas. As well as blue whales the largest preditor on the planet.
Fun fact: Not only do Orcas have complex LANGUAGES. They have dialects, and even engage in fashion trends. There was an orca trend where they wore dead fish as hats. Some even tried to revive trends, but it didn't work
@@Linda-jl5lx Supposedly the mass of bird calls you can hear in trees and stuff sometimes is even the group of birds living in or claiming it telling the new birds in the area that there's nowhere to live
More likely because we don't behave like prey. Our behavior is more like that of a poisonous animal. We actively approach the predator and maintain eye contact. It's not worth the risk to them.
That's a very good point. It's like when you see a mountain lion, you're supposed to stand tall and put your arms up to look bigger, and make noise. I think most predators use ambush or chase tactics to avoid injury. If a predator gets hurt in the wild, it's game over for them, so they try to play it safe.
@@NumericalConfusionthink about what animals most commonly come into contact with in the wild. Things usually fly or walk on all fours. We're the exception. Also, when an animal walks on its hind legs, it's usually a threat display. Picture a grizzly bear standing up on its hind legs to intimidate a human in the wild. "Look how big I am." We're kind of doing that display just walking around normally. We're weird looking and kinda big. Safer to avoid us
@@NumericalConfusionI always thought about what a coyote or bear would see if a couple humans screamed at it and ran towards it with our long arms waving around, yelling weird shit, considering you’re eye level to our waists I feel like I’d be terrified of humans haha
@@clamcrewcarclub6017ive had the same thought about tigers, what would one do if a physically fit person showed not only a lack of fear, but extreme aggression and desire to kill, and started sprinting like a madman toward it. would it feel fear and flea? Would it attack? Would it be too confused to actually know what to do?
But mosquitos don't feed on every creature with blood. So they don't like the taste of all creatures either. They don't even feed on all people, they will select certain individuals and show preference for them based on smell and taste.
I think with the orcas and leopard seals, it can be explained by the fact that we are not native to their natural habitat and because they are intelligent creatures they approach us more with a sense of curiosity and caution than a desire to hunt. I think wolves may have evolved to avoid humans instinctively after humans previously killed many of them and they probably also are intimidated by our upright stance as mentioned in the video. They may also acknowledge that we're not as nutritious a meal for a pack as a large deer and also not worth hunting individually when there are smaller, weaker animals to hunt like rabbits and such.
I think this is partly true for the orcas but not fully. They will eat moose. And I think we (especially now) interact with orcas in the wild just as much as moose do. But maybe they recognize us as intelligent and that combined with limited exposure makes a difference.
@@jakeryan4545 My bet is it's closer to the killer whales beaching themselves specifically for seal pups. The moose regularly swim between landmasses in rivers that the killer whale pods regularly visit so the killer whales have had enough exposure to both the live and dead moose to identify them as food.
Yeah, I feel like leopard seals and killer whales don't hunt humans because they don't really know or understand us, but wolves don't because they DO know us. In fact, I don't think that any apex predator has quite the understanding of humans that wolves do.
I've heard a few stories about interactions between humans and leopard seals and for them in particular it seems that humans are kind of the equivalent of a cute little kitten... They largely seem to treat humans in the way a person would treat a kitten.
@@eluminaryxarrais7735 That's interesting, never really thought about seals having notions like 'cute' maybe I don't give them enough brainpower credit?
I know it sounds weird, but in many areas, where bears got heavily hunted, they tend to stay away from humans even when they are not hunted anymore and the attacks are far less common than in areas, where bears didn't got intensely hunted. It faszinates that each generation of the offspring of those bears learned that humans are dangerous
It's probably some sort of instinct/gene in the brain. Bears with gene that gives them confidence to attack weird mammal that walks on two legs- gets killed, gene doesn't pass on. Bears without the gene that gives them confidence to attack weird mammal that walks on two legs- doesn't get killed, gene doesn't pass on and whatever brain function that tells them to avoid us gets passed on.
Orca: What’s that? *A group of strange limbed hairless screaming things with sharp long things stabbing a giant whale and dragging it away every day for 20 years straight* Orca: … yeah, I’m not touching that.
Yeah and those hairless ship apes have been known to chop fins off sharks and leave them to die... And there's also all the other fishing we do... They're probably smart enough to know they don't want to be treated like those other sea creatures- "Listen to what momma says - act cute and nonthreatening when you see these murderous creatures around!"
Not really early humans have teached wolves a lesson. If a human dies because of a member of the pack bunch of human comes and hunt his ass down. Also hunt the rest of the pack too. Other wolf pack observe this and say "alright whatever you guys do. Avoid those bipedal apes, otherwise this pack would get cooked"
I shared an office at university with Kirsty Brown, the unfortunate victim of the leopard seal. She was a very small woman and I imagine that wearing a black dry-suit would have looked similar to an emperor penguin. She wasn’t dragged down and drowned, she was bitten on the back of the neck just as leopard seals do to penguins.
One reason wolves don't hunt humans is that over the centuries, the bold animals that would be more likely to attack have been removed from the population leaving only the skittish and wary animals to reproduce. This would have changed the behaviour of wolves and they would instinctive avoid humans.
I heard about a theory that if orcas communication and intelligence is as advanced as some people think they could easily pass down stories from the times of whaling when it was not unheard of for orcas to help whalers catch whales in return for the carcass once the whalers got the oil and whatever else they hunted them for. And even tell their offspring what we are capable of with our ships should we become enemies. Personally I think its a mix of passed down behavior from the older members of the pod who might have encountered humans with positive outcomes and a intelligent fascination with us for being utterly alien from the sea. They are so intelligent that they might be able to grasp the concept that there is a world unknown to them on land and interacting with humans is a way to sate some curiousity about it. Either way I hope that I get to swim with some one day.
@@jazz3911 Only if the orcas were somehow interfering with the hunt. Orcas are much faster than the large whales, therefore harder to catch. Also, only one side of their brain sleeps at a time, so they're harder to sneak up on. When you add in the much smaller amount of blubber an orca has (an average humpback weighs 5 times as much as the largest known orca), it's simply not worth the whaler's time to hunt orcas. There are cases of whalers, seal hunters and fishermen trying to kill orcas, mostly because the orcas were seen as competition. Every seal, whale, or fish the orcas kill is one less for the humans.
One thing that will always give you a decent edge over a lone predator is our aptness for ranged combat. Chuck a few decent sized rocks at a wolf, score a few hits and it'll be freaked out at how you're causing it pain when it itself isn't near close enough to retaliate. It will most likely retreat because you're not worth the risk.
I dont think most humans realize how insane the concept of throwing is, it might be even more impressive than our intelligence. The ability to cause repeated ranged damage is something literally no other animal can do. Sure spitting cobras can spit a couple feet, and some insects can spray a bit but the ability to just pick up a rock and use it to cause major damage from far away is basically a super power. (Not even apes are not capable of throwing things remotely like humans) Its more amazing than flying or any other abilities we consider to be impressive.
Wolves also seem to match themselves against an opponent and try to assess their chances of success early in the battle. If they realize they can't win, the tails start wagging and the tongue comes out -- they try to make friends. There's a video somewhere on TH-cam of a pack of wolves going against a Great Pyrenees protecting a flock of sheep. First they are fierce, then the alpha gets a look on his face like, "What are you doing! Can't you see my pups are hungry??!! Traitor!" Then one of them opens his jaws, attempting to get them around the pooch's neck, and realizes he can't come close. He then grins and pants, and a few seconds later the whole pack is trotting cheerfully around the fluffy dawg, as if saying, "Hey, that was fun! So do you think the hooman would hire us too???"😂
I remember watching a documentary about why lions are scared of humans. I forgot if it was just at a certain location or if it was in general. It said, for thousands of years the lions that did hunt humans were killed by our ancestors and the ones that ran away from us were able to reproduce more thus passing on their traits. Maybe the same thing happened to the wolves. The aggresive ones got killed while the friendliest ones got tamed.
The masai. They still walk through and lions run. Bug only them. From a rites of passage that requires them to kill a lion being given only a spear and dagger. It’s ingrained in them to fear the masai. I’ve read that due to lion population being threatened they no longe partake in that ritual/custom whatever u wanna call it
To make a slight correction; while it is tempting to say humans are physically unimpressive, what allowed humans to begin prospering and further develope in the first place was our impressive long distance stamina thanks to our ability to sweat. By sweating to cool our bodies, humans have virtually instant recovery times when compared to other mammals. Early human hunting packs could track and chase large prey animals over miles until their prey simply couldn't continue. We would just follow our prey until it was too tired to move. This ability not only made us some of the most terrifying and diligent predators in Earth's history, but in my opinion is equally as powerful as our intelligence.
Endurance hunting being a main hunting strategy for humans is a misconception. Humans have been mostly ambush hunters and chasing over long distances is rarely worth the time and energy. Not only do you need to have the ground be in perfect condition for tracking, you expend a lot of water and need to be able to bring all that meat back. To top that off, only the most fit of people could pull hunts like that off. To cite a source, here is an excerpt from "Why are humans good at endurance running? The answer is murky." By TIMOTHY F. KIRN/UNDARK on Popular science: "The idea of ancient humans as persistence hunters, possessed of superior physical capability, has a certain romance about it and has become very popular with running enthusiasts. Some scientists suggest it can explain several of the evolutionary traits humans have acquired over the past two million years. There may be some groups who practice it even today, though that’s hotly debated. Despite the idea’s foothold in popular culture, however, there is no hard evidence that ancient humans were persistence hunters, much less that persistence hunting shaped evolutionary traits. In fact, what evidence there is doesn’t support the notion that early humans acquired their meaty meals through feats of running endurance; it flatly contradicts it." Another excerpt: "Bunn recognized a golden opportunity. “We don’t usually get such clear-cut evidence to test something from 2 million years ago,” he said. He and Pickering thought that if they could age the different animals in that collection, they could glean whether the animals were scavenged, persistence hunted, or hunted some other way. If the animals had been scavenged or captured by persistence hunting, they likely would have been either very young or very old. Savanna predators like lions and leopards don’t chase the healthiest, fastest animals of a herd-and presumably persistence hunters wouldn’t either. Rather, they’d chase the ones that are easiest to catch. But the researchers found that most of the animals in the collection were either young adults or adults in their prime. Of the 19 animals they could identify, only four were very young or old. To Bunn and Pickering, that suggested the animals hadn’t been chased down. And because there were butchering marks on the bones with the best meat, it was also safe to assume that animal carcasses hadn’t been scavenged by humans after being killed by other predators; the predators surely would have taken the prime portions for themselves. "Instead, Bunn believes ancient human hunters relied more on smarts than on persistence to capture their prey. In his paper with Pickering, he suggests that our ancestors would wait in brushy, forested areas for the animals to pass by. They may have even hidden in the branches of trees, since hooved animals tend not to look up. That would have allowed the hunters to get close enough to club the animal with a sharp object." Nobody will read this whole thing, but I think dispelling misconceptions is a good thing.
@@trulyinfamous holy smokes, thank you for this comment! I had no idea about this and its immensely interesting! While i think it is wrong to assume perssitence hunting was absent in primitive hunting strategies (especially in areas with open terrain and little cover), i do admit it i was a bit foolish in assuming this would be our predominant strategy given our intelligence. Early humans would have been foolish not to take advantage of this intelligence to plan ambushes and other complex hunting strategies. I have to admit i would like to do more research on the topic before being swayed either direction but i thank you for taking the time to contradict my point and educate me on the subject! Thank you again!
Why wolves stay away from humans: Wolf A: What about that tasty looking critter? Wolf B: Where? Wolf A: Over there! The one on two legs. Wolf B: Are you nuts? Never, ever go near one of those! Wolf A: What do you mean? It doesn't look that dangerous... Wolf B: You have no idea. Do you see the dachshund and chihuahua with it? Wolf A: You mean that weird sausage creature and the furry flea? Wolf B: Yes! Wolf A: Um... They don't look very dangerous, either... Wolf B: You don't get it. Those were wolves, until the two-legs got hold of them! Wolf A: Yelp! /*vanishing in the distance*/
That's a good point. Becarful or we will breed you with you mom and sisters till we have monstrous genetic freaks that will be unrecognizable to your kind.
European wolves aren't particularly afraid of humans. The winter of 1450 Paris was under constant fear of wolf attacks, up to and including the city market itself. During ww1 the Germans and Russians had a temporary ceasefire to hunt down the wolf packs that were killing and eating men in the trenches.
@@W1ldSm1le Wolves have been heavily hunted since 1450. The bolder individuals were killed off. Also, keep in mind, people have always been prone to exaggeration. The wolf was the monster in myth and folklore; no other animal that actually existed has a reputation like that. How many attacks would it take, to put a city in fear? As for WWI, the wolves weren't hunting men. Men were killing men, and the wolves were scavenging on the corpses that were left in no-man's land. You see, there's only so much dead and rotting flesh you can leave around, before even the most timid scavengers will be drawn in. Of course, this was very unfortunate for anyone who'd be shot to pieces, but was somehow still alive, abandoned in the darkness and mist, unable to defend themselves or flee. Today, attacks by European wolves are beyond rare.
Well, in instances where orcas become stranded or trapped in shallow waters, humans often come to their aid. This assistance can include efforts to refloat the stranded orcas and guide them back to deeper waters. These rescue efforts may foster positive associations between orcas and humans, potentially contributing to a general lack of aggression.
It's not too far of a stretch considering their high intelligence, proven communication skills and ability to reason and coordinate attacks. Perhaps one day science will progress enough that we can actually interview one of them.
Conversely, getting trapped in fishing nets would harbor negative associations towards boats - not humans, boats - which might be why there are orcas attacking and even sinking boats near the Mediterranean
@@purrfekt i heard scientists are getting close to decode their language, the funny thing is that their language is like ours, they have several, not just one! Hence why they also have different cultures.
The fact that humans don't have sharp claws and teeth doesn't mean they're not threatening. It means that they're so threatening that the minor advantage provided by leaving those structures behind was stronger than the overwhelming advantage that those structures provide to many predatory animals. It's not a weakness, it's the flex of an apex predator.
Humans are actually not an apex predator but just a realyl bad scavenger no joke cuase if oyu kill a cow ,pig etc and would try to eat the meat right after its to tough for us to eat and it would not taste good in our opinions so it have to hung for (depending on the meat) 2-9 weeks or even more technically starting to rott so we can actually eat and digerst it properly but thats not how predators work ,,, theyx kill and eat it sure they will also scavenge but they still be able to digest frehsly killed meat with no trouble the next thing is that when you kill an animal you have to prepare it properly like letting it bleed out etc otherwise the taste and quality will suffer its another point of showing that we are just really bad scavengers prob we are not much diffrent from a Creyfish or Crab munching most of our time on plant matter but take any chance we got to get on a carcass and try to make a kill from time to time would also explain why concuming to much meat /animal products makes our bodys actually sick cause if crabs/greyfish consume to much meat/animal stuff they will also get sick and die younger then the ones munching mostly on plant matter
Wolves: I experienced in the wilds of Northern Ontario, that the Timber Wolves leave us well alone. I have been surrounded by packs of Wolves and it was very obvious that they were curious. When their curiosity was satisfied, they just left quietly.
All predators are naturally afraid of us, cuz we're not a part of their natural habitat. The only exception is crocodiles, who will eat ANYTHING that wanders too close.
One thing I'd add because vids like this always seem to not mention- humans got where we are not only because of our intelligence and tool use, but because of our complex social behaviours. A lone human in the wild is pretty vulnerable, but multiple humans working together can scare away even the most dangerous natural predators.
It's similar for cetaceans (whales and dolphins), and to some extent also for wolves, so they also have evolutionary pressure to communicate quickly and reliably in ways that the prey doesn't understand. This is probably why cetaceans appear to also have complex languages, and why dogs, while not having language, are still amazingly good at communicating with humans.
There’s an archeologist/anthropologist (I don’t quite remember) who said that the earliest sign of civilization isn’t something like tool use or agriculture as one might expect. It’s a healed femur, because it’s the kind of injury that you can’t survive without a lot of help. If you live past the injury long enough for the bone to heal, it means that someone carried you to safety, tended your wound, watched over you, brought you food for weeks or months, etc. Caring for one another is where civilization begins.
@@auntvivienne8669 i believe it was an archeologist. There was a fossil discovery a couple years ago and they found it had a healed break, which was a big deal because it was evidence that species was somewhat intelligent, at least on par with canids (this was a million year old fossil though, not a dino)
The most interesting behavior I have seen in all of the animal kingdom is that the majority of predators avoid potential danger, and yet at the same time show an interest in the things that they don't deem worth hunting. It applies to any large intelligent predator in a remarkably similar way. I wish we knew more about all the other amazing life forms on this planet so we could understand how to properly communicate, and interact with them as well as gain more respect for our little blue dot.
Absolutely this. It pays for a predator to be both cautious - if one loses an eye or a canine tooth, for example, it could seriously impair their ability to hunt depending on the species - and curious. It makes a great deal of strategic sense to keep your options open but also to watch your six (and have your buddies do so with special species like dolphins and wolves). Many prey species are nearly as dangerous as the ones that predate upon them, and opportunity sometimes knocks on strange doors.
I mean it kinda makes sense right? Prey species don’t need to have much going on upstairs to survive well. They just gotta chew grass and run like hell. It doesn’t take much to outsmart grass. Predators’ curious nature is useful because it helps them learn how to utilise the environment to get a leg up on prey that are usually bigger and faster than they are
If you ask me, i think its Evolution, because wer humans practice "revenge" and we are realy good and effective at it,... Yes We are weak alone... With a suprise attack... But oh boy, what comes after that, is not funny for the animal that did that. Because when We take revenge and hunt them down... Yeah... For example Wolfs ... If every Pack that hunted humans got rotted out... That's leaves Only the ones that dont do that, and that is better for survival than hunting human, Evolution did what it Always does, the surving genes get passt down to the next Generation 😅
I would add that most orcas have very specific prey items on their menu that they specialize in hunting, and often don’t target animals not on the list. They build routines and practices for their specifies prey items. For obvious reasons humans don’t provide enough opportunities to build those practices, so there’s one reason they approach people with curiosity rather than a hunting attitude.
That makes sense, I myself would not eat any meat from animals that looks very different than the one I used to eat, unless in a desperate situation. (So... no reptiles, rodents, exotic animals, etc)
This is very true. We think of them as generalists because overall they eat such a wide range of marine life. But as he said each pod has their own culture and their own specialties in hunting. It's pretty narrow niche partitioning, though they are also very intelligent and might well check out a novel source of prey and/or entertainment.
true, but that doesn't really explain why no human got ever seriously _hurt_ by wild orcas. there are many animals which don't consider humans as prey (think herbivores) but still are very dangerous for humans and even constantly cause a number of deaths (e.g. hippos). orcas don't. why? I would be very nervous and fear for my health if I were to encounter a rhino but I would feel quite safe in the company of an orca.
"Despite being physically unimpressive." Don't underestimate the overpowered dexterity (mostly regarding hands) and almost unrivaled long distance stamina. These are argualby just as historically important in making humans a dominant species as intelligence. Stamina may not be that important anymore, but intelligence would be just as useless without dexterity as dexterity would be without intelligence. A lion wouldn't become more dangerous with a spear even if it had human intelligence, because it still couldn't use it effectively. Humans are not physically unimpressive, we just are not pysically powerful and dangerous in a traditional sense.
We actually are even impressive in an traditional sense, a heavyweight boxer punches with the force of a horses kick which is (with precision) enough to kill nearly every mammal. Also people tend to use dudes as comparison to animal strength, wich are physically and mentally unshape to kill, and simply never had to hunt or exercise for survival.
I've often wondered if someone of the most intelligent species would have evolved further if it had the ability to hold things. Just take away that ability and we'd be unable to develop any technology
@@tomlxyz yeah, I've thought of that too. I've heard somethin about dolphins being hypotethically smart enough to form societies similar to early human ones in complexity, but they don't have the hands to do it.
Back when humans actually had to fight for their survival, I do imagine we were physically much better off than the average specimen today. Relying upon our technology and intelligence likely caused a decline in other physical faculties.
@@tomlxyz it is not enough. Octopuses have that ability and yet there is no way ever they will form a civilization of any kind simply because they dont live long enough to actually meet and teach their kids, as they die rather fast after mating.
I like the fact that the primary reason for not being hunted is basically we're not worth the effort. We're easy kills but actually the hassle would exceed the benefit.
@@greenwave819 don't think that matters. Yes, we might be able to kill them but that doesn't mean it's also not easy to be killed by them. Same way as we've successfully invented machines to be able to fly in the air but that doesn't mean if I fall from the sky I won't make a large and bloody crater in the ground when I land.
@@greenwave819 Innocent people are yeah. But if it happens and continuously hunting squads will go out and hunt the killer whales. Killer whales will know they will be slaughtered if they step out of line they're not stupid
@@슬라바우크라이나헤로 uhhmmm....even without weapons Humans is Highly Dangerous Why "FIRE" when we learn to make Fire its Game over its the Main Reason why we Flip the Food Chain and we become the Super Apex Predator in the land.
What most people think: Orcas are smart enough to know not to mess with humans. What I think: Orcas are smart enough to make sure that when they do kill a human the rest of us will never find out about it.
Orcas are incredible creatures. the fact they marvel at us instead of use us as a volley ball like they do to seals and sharks is kinda confusing to me. when I first learned they aren't whales but big dolphins it kinda makes more sense (even though orcas are known to hunt other dolphins) they are naturally curious creatures who have always been curious and playful with humans. I think it's also a blessing they don't hunt us or else past people would have likely drove them to extinction.
Yeah if there’s anything in the world that tried to go after humans as prey we’d do anything in our power to eliminate them. So far the closest any other animal can get is mosquitos which aren’t usually life threatening on their own and hippos but they’re just defensive assholes 😂 a very surprising amount of people have been killed because of them.
@@totallynotafanficreader7850 it's not the mosquito that ends up killing humans it is the parasite(s) they infect us with. But for sure those little bastard do hunt us fearlessly and successfully.
Seals are a group that I'm shocked haven't been domesticated at any point in history. They're basically water dogs and would fit the equivalent role dogs hold for hunters but tailored to fishermen instead
Seals can't really hunt for someone else they eat the prey right away (krill or fish) Leopard seals are the exceptions, being the only one eating warm blood preys but they are solitary animals that don't even really accept the presence of other leopard seals so good luck to domesticate it ;)
Easy answer... Were land animals... How to domesticate a wolf? Steal a puppy, bring it home where youre safe from mama wolfs revenge, raise it in your backyard, feed it with stuff you have around you. Easy right? How to domesticate a leopard seal? Build a house near water, build a boat that is big enough to support you for a couple of days to go hunting for leopard seal babies, steal the baby and survive the attack of mama seal while being in a tiny wooden boat out on the open sea... Hope no storm hits you while being on the sea... Hope you dont spring a leak... Hope your food and water dont get spoiled by anything so you starve to death or dehydrate... Bring it home, build a huge water basin or fenced off part of the sea, go out fishing every goddamn day to feed it and eventually youll get a domesticated leopard seal. After that you start realizing that you have been fishing all the time and cought enough fish to feed yourself and a hundrets of pounds seal, so the seal starts to feel really useless all of a sudden... You could have eaten all the fish and sold whatever you got left somewhere for money or treats... Domesticating seals would have been a pain in the arse and dangerous, cause at that times tens or hundrets of thousands of years ago when we started domesticating animals, every kind of water was a dangerous place for humans to hang around. Especially the oceans. Cows, wolfes and big cats were basically easy to catch right in your front yard, so no need to go to the ocean to domesticate something you have almost no access to. And at that time we actually had boats and could actually domesticate sea creatures, fishing skills were already so good developed, that it made no sense to domesticate something to catch fish for you, if you had towlines where you could catch dozens of fishes at once. If you want to know more, theres some exelent documentaries about how humans domesticated animals... I wish our ancestors hadnt been that affraid of sabertooth cats, they just killed them off when they saw them, but theres speculations if at some point humans did actually domesticae sabertooth cats for hunting. Problem with that theory was, wolfes are roughly the size and weight of humans, so if it decides for some reason it has enough of your domestication efforts, its easy to fend off an angry wolf. Good luck trying fending off an angry 800 pound sabertooth tiger thats fed up with your bullshit or doesnt want to share its prey with you. Guess same goes for cavebears, could have been domesticated, but you know, 12 feet long, 2000 pounds... As an early human you start wondering the "maybe benefits" are worth the risk...
@@nitro8529 I mean, you probably wouldn't be going for leopard seals given how far away their hunting territories are - you'd be going for easier finds like grey seals and the like which would also be easier to feed and control due to their smaller size plus you could just grab a stranded/abandoned pup from your local beach - unlikely they'd grab a guarded one though as grey seals can 'sprint' up to 35 km/h (so unless you're an olympic sprinter, you aren't gonna get away) plus seal pups being left unguarded isn't too rare. That said, to add to your point, the important thing for domestication isn't 'steal a puppy, bring it home' but to have *many* puppies to eventually start a breeding stock that isn't gonna incest-itself to extinction in a few generations and that's a significantly larger slice of your catch (average grey seal eats about 5kg of fish per day, multiply that by a minimum of 4 and you could feed a family of 5 for a week from a single day of their diet). Also, aside from pelts (for which prey animals are generally better anyway), wolves and cats aren't really good for anything as their meat isn't exactly known for it's deliciousness; seals on the otherhand have been hunted for their blubber and meat for thousands of years, making them too valuable as prey to be a companion predator and too predatory/aggressive to be domesticated prey. Final reason; wolves helped man hunt more/larger prey than they might otherwise have been capable of whereas seals don't typically hunt prey larger than themselves, so it doesn't give you any more options even after all that investment. All this is to say, dogs and their ancestors were perfect for ancient man in a way no other animal can replicate and should be cherished as the good boys/girls they are/were.
There are stories of domesticated seals in alaska that died off as a result fo a series of hard winters. There is also some evidence that neolithic peoples on the baltic coast domesticated seals but at some point the practise disappeared.
It´s scary to think that while we study orcas and leopard seals, they study us too. Maybe not in a complex way but still... What if orcas pass on information about humans to other orcas? That would mean that the more we learn about orcas, the more they learn about us.
Shane Lawrence, we're not debating the speed of their learning, but the fact that they learn very close to our level. Respect to the 1 animal we fear for all the wrong reasons.
Only ever encountered 2 wolves, in Romania where I was on vacation in a wooden cabin by a forest lake. I was fishing as they approached and my Romanian friend who had a lot more experience told me to continue fishing. The wolves sat down about 50 meters from us and just watched us for about 15 minutes, I heard howling from somewhere else and the two wolves just vanished, unfortunately I did not have my smartphone with me as it was supposed to be a "no-electronics" vacation.
A Scottish wildlife ranger told me a story of something that happened to him and some friends who were out canoeing in the Atlantic. They were approached by a pod of orcas who circled them. They pulled all their canoes together and started praying. The whales kept circling them for nearly an hour, getting very close and looking them in the eye. Eventually they got bored and swam off. Quite an experience!
I think with orcas they have a strong cultural memory and they remember us from the whaling days. Though we didn’t really hunt them they definitely saw us at work on their larger cousins. In fact down in Eden NSW Australia a pod of killer whales allied themselves with a whaling company to cooperatively hunt baleen whales.
It was sort of a cooperative thing as I understand it. The whales wanted the tongue which the whalers didn’t want and both groups were able to make the kill with much less risk. This being old school whaling days with towing boat and hand thrown harpoons.
What cousins? Orcas are dolphins, they were called killer whales as the shorter version of killer of whales, some literally hunt down blue whales they aren't scared of us they are just used to eat the same things and also they probably don't know if we might be poisonous because we have never been on their menu
Orca's are VERY common in the northwest coast of North America. And many people have encounters with them where they simply come up to check the person out. Many people using simple things like paddle boards or kayaks report encounters with Orcas. There is even footage of an Otter jump on someones boat to escape an Orca and the Orca not harassing the boat.
@@Tugela60 that's not completely true. It depends on the age and size of the shark. Bigger/older sharks know what they are doing for the most part. If they are biting you, it's usually either territorial or it wants to consume you (they may be desperate for food). Smaller/younger Sharks definitely have been shown to display behavior where they attack people because of mistaken identity... But the idea that generally Sharks only attack people because of mistaken identity is a myth that gets perpetuated in popular media. If you actually look at the recorded shark attacks through history, there are numerous cases of Sharks actively hunting humans and eating them alive. In these cases, I guess someone could argue the first bite was an accident, but when it comes to the the second and third bites, that theory goes out the window. These attacks are rare relative to human/shark interactions, but they are within the range of potential outcomes.. whereas a human's relationship to Orcas is completely different. Orcas do not want to eat you, there's no evidence to suggest they do. It's a rare occurrence for humans to be treading water in the open ocean in the first place.. when a boat capsizes and leaves people stranded for example, the fear of sharks is justified, because you are a floating easy meal.. sharks that attack people stranded at sea know what they are doing.. they will avoid large groups of people conjugated together in favor of trying to pick out stragglers.. if they are in the area and they are hungry enough, they'll have a go at you. None of this is an accident.
@@waynetables6414 Man eating sharks while a thing that happens from time to time are still pretty much the minority. Humans are a Horrible source of sustinance as the amount of bones compared to flesh and fat is pretty high basicaly we are the worst thing to eat for large predators as we are basicaly filled with stuff they can´t digest and a low in nutrational value food on top of it. Add to that that humans are spitefull prey with the dexterity to attack weak spots like eyes or other sensory organs we are realy not worth it
@@ericcampbell9470 That's the Southern Resident population in Washington state. The Northern populations are growing. With 300+ whales in BC and 2300 in Alaska. Look it up.
I reckon Orcas can pass down stories and knowledge. Maybe they know that we are effective at killing whales with our ships and harpoons, and there were cases of Orcas helping humans to hunt whales in exchange for part of the kill. Maybe the Orcas today have heard stories of humans that were whaling and know that we can work together but also know how dangerous we can be if we're enemies.
orcas 100% pass down knowledge, and since they have unique languages, probably stories in a really basic form, which convey enough info for them to know what to fuck with and what to run away from
Orca dad: You know those seals with the real long thin flippers that go riding around on those magic floating rocks, it's best not to mess with them. Wolf dad: Don't ever mess with that kind of monkey, they can kill you with thunder or turn you into one of their mutant slaves or even a pug.
Gorilla dad: See those very strange looking monkeys? They're cool with us until they piss us off. But even then we don't stand a chance against them. We just don't.
"Regular" dolphins are predators who seem to like human as well. There are a lot of stories of dolphins intentionally saving humans from shark attacks.
My theory for orca and seal: Imagine you are sitting in your backyard and you saw an animal you never encountered before. It seems harmless and doesn't look like the stuff you normally eat. Now what would you do? I think many of us, might want to play with it or even try to feed it if you had a bread in your hand (let's forget about that "do not approach wild animal" rule for a minute). Long story short, curiosity.
You should also consider that we as humans tend to kill any individual animal that was found to attack one of us. This creates an evolutionary advantage for all representatives of species that are ignoring/friendly to us. It can’t override situations of enormous starvation - but sifts out general misbehavior.
That reminds me of lion seals who reportedly brought dead fish to divers and scientists and some even tried to teach human how to hunt like they do with there young.
Its honestly quite amazing to think that for as much as we ponder and study Orcas that they're staring right back trying to figure out the strange being in their waters.
I just realised how similar leopard seals are similar to cats in terms of behaviour : both bring dead animals to people as a sign of friendliness, both like to toy around with their prey ( and when it comes to big cats like pumas then both could be a man eater but usually are chill and just mind their business). and it wloud seem that leopard seals wloud have more dog-like behaviour since canines and pinnipeds are distant relatives.
when it comes to wolves not hunting us, I think a big part of it comes from a while back when there was a bounty on wolves, which lead to a lot of them getting picked off by humans, it may have become instinct to avoid humans because of this
I was fishing on a beach on the east coast of NZ a couple years ago and a leopard seal was just chilling in the sand dunes. We thought it was exhausted and baking in the 32 degree sun so we poured sea water on it and it slowly made its way back to the sea as we did it. It seemed genuinely pleased.
in your use of the word 'genuinely', ask yourself "does this word help change the meaning of the sentence?" It seemed pleased vs it seemed genuinely pleased. Succinct writing is smart writing!
@@greenwave819 It does change the meaning. The leopard seal was pleased to the fullest degree. Ask yourself, “Is my comment necessary?” Pretentious commenting is annoying commenting!
@Green Wave, I hate the comments that write "would of" or "there" when they mean "they're," but adding an (in your opinion) unnecessary adjective or adverb is no reason to comment. If people took your advice, there would be some pretty boring work out there. No poetry. No interesting novels. Just the boring old facts.
0:14 Actually, human jaws are actually very strong for their size. Unfortunately, your teeth will often break before you can use full force, and your brain will usually prevent you from biting with full force, the same way it prevents you from easily biting off your finger.
But then we look at the gorilla and we lose all confidence in our bite strength. Pretty sure gorilla bite strength is in the top of the top 10 strongest bites in the animal kingdom, over 1000 psi. It’s why they’ve got such tall heads, and why they likely won’t evolve larger brains in the foreseeable future: they have crazy big jaw muscles and structure that anchors all the way up their heads.
Hmmm we may be 'soft and squidgy' in appearance but from the perspective of wild animals humans are a hell of a lot more dangerous than you'd think, not just because of our intelligence. Opposable thumbs, a bipedal stance and the ability to sweat are pretty unique advantages for a land animal. Not saying we're as adapted for fighting/killing as animals with weapons for hands, but we don't need to be - our general purpose nature makes us uniquely unpredictable/dangerous for any animal in a fight (never mind our ability to make weapons). We can outlast any animal on endurance and we exist almost exclusively in groups - groups which have a tendency to seek out and kill anything that eats our friends. Even if we were nutritious enough to warrant eating, we are definitely not a soft target.
People saying we're soft and squishy as if we're any different from humans 100 000 years ago. We just fast twitch strong muscle fibers for slow twitch endurance ones. We evolved to run and sweat, that was the entirety of the physical requirements to survive. The rest was thanks to tools and intelligence.
@@ddc2957 true, not many other animals have mastered projectiles, and only snakes have projectiles that are more dangerous (natural projectiles). A human with a basic throwing arm could kill a bear with a rock if it hits the right place
I think even our earliest ancestors would have been formidable to any threats or competition. Walking apes with fire, spears, and cunning plans. They've probably been removing competitors and threats for 3 million years and created a lot of instinctive caution against us. Even Lions show a lot of hesitancy and usually have to be conditioned into not being afraid of us e.g. lions in wildlife parks eventually can become aggressive and want to attack, if they've been exposed to humans all their lives. Kind of like how humans can overcome there instinctive fear of snakes, and handle them, with enough exposure and familiarity.
Friends had a rock python who was so cool, I wanted one. When I finally found one for sale, it was curled up in the back of the cage, daring me to stick a hand in. Reflected that even within the same species, different animals have different personalities / temperaments.
I can speak on the first 2. Orcas. I have an acquaintance who was traveling by a small sailing boat and they were attacked by orcas. The orcas attempted to overturn the boat and also went after it with their teeth, ripping the rudder to shreds and immobilizing them, requiring them to declare an emergency to get rescued and towed to port. Allegedly it was done by a pod of orcas known to attack vessels, it might have something to do with humans going after them first and they're taking revenge. Wolves. I live in land that has always been and is still inhabited by wolves. It's not so much that they've "learned" humans are dangerous, but that we've exterminated wolves that approach human communities leaving only those genetically predisposed to avoiding us. As recently as the 1880s a group of wolves killed 22 children here. Since then there have been no fatalities and when wolves get courageous enough to enter human settlements, they're dealt with.
What if a fast power boat of some kind hit and killed a very young orca in their pod and it’s some kind of revenge against boats? Since a sailboat would be the only one they could attack. Like power boats hitting manatees in Florida. 🤔🤷🏼♂️
This is the benefit of genocide of entire races and species, and helping peaceful animals. This is why we do it even in the modern age like hitler where it is no longer relevant. We shape the evolutionary behaviour of other species through visual inspection of genetic similarities for our own survival. If a wolf bites you, call upon your entire community to go to war with the wolves, and genocide all of them, suffering huge casualties yourself. Instead of trying to run away, let any small conflicts erupt into full blown war of genocide, come back with an army and face the fear and exterminate the enemies. In time there are no more wolves and only sheeps. When a herd of cows get attacked by a few lions they just run away. When a herd of buffalos get attacked by a few lions they attack back.
I do wonder about those orca boat attacks. Is it revenge, or boredom, or curiosity, or some kind of predatory behavior like they might use on whales? We tend to be biased toward thinking about species as intelligent mostly if they act like us, but other species' motives are often inscrutable to us. Their cultures and languages unintelligible.
Wolves - strangely enough, Eurasian or European wolves have numerous accounts of attacks on humans, while North American wolves have few accounts of attacks on humans. As for the leopard seals, they Don't hunt us and do interact with divers, their curiosity can be "overwhelming", or so was told. Made 2 south trips on USCG breakers back in 80s
It is not strange about the North American vs Eurasian wolves, in our developed countries like US and Canada we require proof of such things thus no non rabid attacks, on the other hand Ivan after half a bottle of vodka says he was "attacked" by wolves in Siberia it is written down as "fact" just like it was a century ago in North America when drunken Fred said he was attacked by a wolf in Maine.
North American wolves are probably scared of us and frightened of out guns. However, they do attack in more isolated areas of the continent where they have little to no contact with humans.
WRONG.. There was an article in the news not to long ago where a scientist was diving in the Arctic waters and was attacked and killed by a Leopard Seal.
I have always thought it was that predators expect fear in eyes of their prey. A leopard meets an antelope and senses the antelope knows it will be killed. If a leopard meets a human it can somehow sense that the human is thinking - "That's just what I need. A leopard skin coat!".
3:15. That's Dr Ingrid Visser in NZ. probably one of the most world renown scientists on the planet regarding Orca. She's named practically every Orca in these islands and of course they all know her quite well. Her work regarding these unprecedented creatures has taught the rest of us a LOT about their natural behavior.
@@Johnny69xxx I half way agree. She has had research published about Orcas, but said published research is outside of her "cause". She's against "captivity" but supports sea pens...which is captivity. She's a shining example of what happens when a scientist puts their personal beliefs ahead of science. It's like a mathematician that's also a creationist. That mindset, to include her ignorance, killed a young orca named Bob. She is also a massive hypocrite as she profits off of partnering with a Norwegian snorkeling company that charges people to swim and pet wild Orcas. Which is reckless and dangerous to both humans and Orcas. Any claim from her should be taken with a mountain of salt, because she routinely appears on documentaries (after collecting her appearance fee, yes activists, she does charge one) and makes unfounded claims based on photographs. She's not a total fraud, but a fraud none the less.
@@Johnny69xxx yes she’s an activist and a expert. Just because she’s one doesn’t mean she can’t be the other one too. She has been studying orcas for over 30 years so idk how you come to the conclusion that she isn’t an expert. Everybody should be fighting against the cruelty we do to these incredible animals.
4:26 "Orcas seem very fascinated with humans, and often spend a long time trying to figure us out" Seems the feeling is mutual, our fellow, highly Intelligent mammals 😅
The orca was the only 1 I could think of. Never imagined a leopard seal to be on the list and the wolf was somewhat surprising as well. Awesome vid though mate
I actually always kinda got wolves though it's more an old inscint that makes us fear and caution wolves...since well they are basically one of humanities biggest rivals in the early days.
I remember this incident where I lady was swimming just offshore and small group of orcas showed and was trailing behind. The interesting thing about it was, theyre behavior looked similar to ordinary dolphins being curious. Though some did seemed to give a slight nibble on her foot, that was really the only "hostile" behavior.
I imagine its mostly a combination of rarity(most wild animals probably meet a human once or twice at most), intelligence recognition, uncanniness, and the fact that we are relatively little food for most of these creatures. For wolves, something walking on two legs is probably pretty alien and frightening. I would equate it to meeting a strange dog in the wilderness, but it walks on two legs with a steady stride toward you, rather than fleeing. What would you do?
Wolves used to hunt humans. My guess is it was more something learned socially over the years. Any wolves that ended up killing humans would get wiped out in mass in retaliation.
The leopard seal one is shocking to me. I am morbidly terrified of leopard seals for some reason, so knowing that they're actually just sea doggos like the other seals in the world just doesn't mesh well with my fear. I think my morbid fear comes from the fact that they have a lot of shark-like qualities to them while also having orca-like intelligence.
Don't get me wrong. They're absolutely terrifying and could kill us in a second. But, overall, they've been shown to be mostly curious as said in this video. If you want to be amazed, look up the photos from Nat Geo of the Leopard Seal bringing that guy penguins. It's insane.
I find it quite adorable how menacing predators like orcas and leopard seals are just as fascinated with us as we are with them. While we are quite pathetic with how easy it is to kill us, these animals usually don’t feel the need to hurt us. Instead, they feel the need to figure out what we’re doing. While they do attack sometimes, I don’t see it as a reason to hate them. They’re animals, they are curious and sometimes that leads them to attack. They don’t have the same impulse control that most of us do.
Additionally large herbivores are generally far scarier than most predatory species. Predators are smart enough to evaluate prey and do some basic risk/reward calculations so when they see a human they try and do the math to see if the meat on our bones is worth the risk of us breaking their bones. Large herbivores on the other hand mainly defend themselves through shear bulk, and often have small brains since they just need to eacape and either running away or charging a predator are both valid options. (They also regularly fight eachother during mating season) And this is why the deadliest thing in Africa is the Hippo and not any of the predators most people are scared of. Even amoung domestic animals Horses and Cows are very capable of killing you, and while i don't have the statistics i expect they make up most of the serious injuries from domesticated animals, even more than "agressive" dogs. (Dog aggression is 99.9% how they are raised/trained/treated)
Wdym pathetic? If you're an athletic human being I don't think we are that easy to kill even in the wild lol. Our intelligence will give us an edge in every battle that's why we are the most successful species ever on this planet. Don't underestimate your body. Also our stamina is next to unbeatable in the wild just like wolves', we can jog and hunt animals for so long.
Is it me but my thought is that if orcas did hunt humans in the wild, then they’re so fast, smart and powerful that no one would ever know, the pod could take out a group of fishermen in a small to medium boat or group of divers within a fraction of a second and leave nobody to tell the tail.
I imagine they would be the single most dangerous advisory in the oceans if they decided to turn on people. With competition heating up for fish, this may become a real problem in the future. Similar to how Elephants in India become more violent around people due to habitat loss and lack of food. While I cannot see Orcas killing people for food, I bet Orcas who specifically rely on fish will become territorial towards people if their food finally becomes short in supply
OR..... They are so smart they know that if they get cought eating humans.... Humans will be taking revenge!!! 😉... 🤷♂️Who knows..., I personally thought dogs and cats were the smartest animals (because they are well treated)....... But (back than) I didn't knew dogs and cats get eaten in other (barbarian) cultures... So🤷♂️🤔?... In short the answer (most likely) is that you can't say for sure what others (or other species) think. For instance : you could think that I think other cultures are barbarian... And you would be right.... That is if... (and ONLY IF!!!) you consider my thoughts on western "culture"..., and let's say that: I don't hold it, me, him, them, us, umcle, father, grandad nor possible you in high regard if intelligence is a factor wich I have to grade on😉.... Lol.
Heard a story of some whalers not long ago was documentary on bbc 8 years ago or something they boat got overturned by orcas think they survived but a can’t remember much of the story just orcas sunk the boat was since the tribe
I always assumed that is because these predators are fairly intelligent and know that killing individual humans may be easy, but in the long run being a threat to humans isn't a viable survival strategy. Killing one unarmed human often results in many more, much better armed humans seeking revenge. I figured that this is the kind of stuff that their instincts tell sufficiently intelligent animals, as, after all, humans have been around for quite some time now as well and it makes only sense that other species have developed a rough understanding of what humans are and what they do. 🤔
Orcas are known to be vindictive, as well as blue whales for example. There are recorded instances of blue whales intentionally trying to capsize whalers in the 1800's for example, after they attacked their calf. Orcas have been showing to do the same, so there is some merit in this.
But that requires the individuals make decisions based on the whole species. An orca killing a human would be long gone before others could do anything about it
Instinct and curiosity might explain why leopard seals don't attack us--I'm a predator, and I don't try to kill everything I see, especially if it's new and interesting and I've never seen anything like it (and I don't know if it's good to eat or not!)--but Orcas know exactly what we are: both dangerous and not to be f**ked with, and fellow "Intelligent beings" (though that's a stretch when it comes to humans) who are more interesting as marvels than as food. We make boats and SCUBA gear ands even swim fins and such. To an intelligent non-manipulator, that must be fascinating. They know what we are, and that we are NOT food.
Finally ! A video who talks positively about leopard seals ! They’re one of my favourite animals. I’m so happy they’re on your list. I was happy to see orcas and wolf on the same videl. It reminds me of the orca’s nickname : Wolves of the Sea.
leopard seals are incestuous rap!st who need to be taken out of God's Animal kingdom... Just kidding lol! they cool animals they're like some type of sea puppies.
It's very rare but there have been cases of wild wolves killing people. The fact that pretty much all big marine mammals rarely if ever (I've never heard of it ever happening) eat people is pretty incredible though. Even the rare occasions when they do hurt or kill someone it's almost always an accident. Think how terrifying it would be if they did intentionally hunt us down!
We are talking about recorded attacks. I’m sure there are plenty of unrecorded attacks, or people “going missing” at sea or in the woods and never seen again. People tend to forget that nature is not your friend. Hell, even people predate on each other.
@@shin-ishikiri-no that’s not how that works and they would never be able to recognize a camera or what purpose the camera serves for the humans. Not that it even matters, because most recorded deaths are from SAR teams finding remains or straight up just reporting them dead if they can’t find anything. Cameras rarely find or catch animal attacks, let alone in the ocean of all places.
To be fair, any animal eating humans in the ocean would be, at best, a scavenger. We aren't exactly known for living in the sea for extended periods of time.
Great white sharks could be put in this category, since while they have attacked humans on occasion, mostly out of curiosity or mistaken identity, they don't hunt humans for food.
The really neat thing is that, at least one time, wild orcas have spontaneously formed hunting partnerships with humans, much the same as the mutual fishing partnerships formed between some pods of wild river dolphins and net-using humans, where the dolphins started to drive fish into the nets, basically using the nets to trap the fish against, and thereby increasing the humans' catch as well as their own. It's a very effective hunting strategy for both sides, and both sides have gotten very good at cooperating with each other, with the humans waiting for their signal to start hauling their nets in. Around a hundred or so years ago, back when the whaling stations in Antarctica were still active, there was a similar relationship forged between the whalers at one particular station and a pod of wild orcas, who helped to drive whales to them, and then took a share of the spoils. I don't remember the details, unfortunately, but while so far as I know the dolphins and fishermen are still working together, the orca/human relationship ended when, iirc, some asshole newcomer killed the lead orca.
I know in atleast 1 of the dolfin-fishermen relationships the dolphins are actually caught in the nets with the fish but they don't panic and always are released and given their share of the spoils. Probably the most impressive part of this partnership is that unlike dogs & beasts of burder these dolphins are fully wild and not domesticated (a genetic process) or even tamed (capture a wild animal and train/condition it). This means the dolphins are humans are both smart enough to forge an interspecies alliance without the use of words, truly impressive intelligence and arguably sentience.
@@jasonreed7522 "Arguably?" Dolphins have been proven to be sentient, if I remember the studies correctly. The only link missing to fully confirm it is finding a way to fully translate their language. I know for certain that we've proven that it's a true _language_ and not just a series of noises that only truly translate to things like "help," "hey guys I found food" and "hey guys run."
@@CoralCopperHead There was a dolphin that got his conversation recorded with another dolphin, then when scientists used the recorded sounds of the other one to trick it, it instantly knew and got mad
Another theory is we are a relatively "boney" species. Other predators didn't evolve to view us as prey for a number of reasons that essentially boil down to: "Not being worth the effort."
Well yeah. We’re just so different to everything else, that it invites unnecessary risk. Think about what we look like from an orca’s or a wolf’s perspective. We move and breathe and make sounds like everything else. We have families and communicate like they do. But why are we holding odd objects? Why are we covered in strange material? Where do we come from before we leave our strange, loud, indestructible boxes? We’re unbelievably dangerous, but also fragile. We’re cruel and kill for no reason, but also can show great kindness and curiosity like they do. We’d be uncanny because we’re obviously living animals with much in common, but also are strange in ways that absolutely nothing else is. I’d be terrified, yet curious too
What I always found interesting is that crocodiles will hunt humans as prey, whereas alligators generally won't, even though alligators do hunt prey larger than humans. It's hard to explain why an alligator wouldn't hunt us, when every reason I can think of seems like it should also apply to crocodiles, or vice versa.
Alligators are generally significantly smaller (not only in length, but in muscle mass and weight) than crocodiles and, are therefore, much more timid in nature. While they are able to take on large prey, they're less likely to than crocodiles, because it's more of a risk to them. Basically, humans seem like a bigger risk to alligators than to crocodiles, who view us as an easy meal.
Probably because alligators live in more developed countries where it is easier for them to get killed. In the middle of dirt-poor Africa, Crocodiles can rampage without much to fear
Regarding killer whales, "Thankfully they don't [eat us] because we don't stand a chance..." More like they wouldn't stand a chance. I think they instinctively know we're not the animal to piss off or threaten.
Since food consumption is so difficult for humans to achieve while in the water, perhaps part of orca and leopard seal curiosity with us is that they've never seen us eat; though they possibly have seen us hunt or capture their own kind.
“Game recognize game.” -Riley Freeman I think in some cases it’s a matter of respect…. in others, they are smart, pass along information to their descendants, and know better than to F with the creatures that can end their whole blood line/species….. (As to the leopard seal, considering the way they generally treat us, the one that drug the girl down too deep may have been trying to show her something, not knowing she wouldn’t be able to hold her breath long enough or be able to go that deep. The animal may have been treating her like a juvenile seal and not attacking her. Until we learn to communicate with them [we’re the ones with the opposable thumbs and the computers in our pockets] than we will never know)….
Orcas used to hunt humans until a particularly vicious pack ran right into Chuck Norris. In exchange for sparing the species, they are holding up their end of the bargain.
It's a predatory brotherhood...They recognize us as apex predators, and just as some wolves became dogs, orcas and leopard seals would probably have done the same if they lived in land.
I've spent considerable time wondering about this as well. Occurs to me that predators that do hunt humans tend to disappear rather suddenly. That does not explain why orcas don't hunt people. Anyone aware of humans reaction to being targeted understands it would be a bad idea. But how do they know? Or do they know?
Orcas are careless animals that often end up in the sea shore without a way to go back while hunting. That is when humans come to the rescue. This happening over the years makes orcas see humans as "friends" who have saved some of their lives.
Orcas are intelligent enough to pass down information verbally to their offspring. So if a human helps an orca, an orca might go back to its family group to spread the good word. They talk so much because body language isn't a very effective tone indicator for them, so yeah. Either they find us friendly, or they are aware of what we are capable of doing
In general animals that do actively hunt humans get hunted to extinction by us instead... like the lions that used to live in Europe. The only animals I can think of that hunt humans and do not get hunted to extinction by us without any protective measurements (like lions and tigers for example, they are actively protected by us) are Nile crocodiles and saltwater crocodiles. Makes me feel like in many cases it's not about animals knowing not to mess with us but instead almost all animals that did mess with us are just no longer here, and all we have left are those that don't.
@Pilot JollyRoger yes, they talk and are aware of us. Like almost all animals treat us differently. Haven’t you see all these videos of divers removing hooks from sharks, dolphins and whatever else? Animals know about us. Did you hear what the signing gorilla had to say about us?
Orcas aren't the only whale that mourn their dead. When I lived in the Canary Islands back in the 90s I sold boat trip tickets to go out sailing with the dolphins & whales. Anyway, I went out on the boat one day, and there was a group of pilot whales doing something on the surface of the water, and as we got there I could see a baby whale that seemed lifeless. The adult whales were circling the baby in the middle of this circle while one of the adults gently grabbed the baby and would pull it under the water and then dive back up to the surface, and I could just understand that it was trying to revive the baby but after a while it was obvious the baby wasn't going to be revived, and the adult whales just carried on circling the baby for some time. That circling just had the vibe to me that this had turned into a funeral, and it was so sad to see so the captain of the boat decided to respect the whales and sail to a different spot 😢
Honestly I think humans are a pretty visually intimidating species, and even if something could kill us, it would still be a pretty difficult thing to do in most situations with little reward.
Intimidating how? no fangs, no claws, no armour, pathetically slow on land or sea. Unless we are armed, we are easy pickings, and sometimes it doesn't matter if we are armed. Those Cape Buffalo down in South Africa don't give a crap about big-game hunters with their large caliber Rigby's. Mountain lions routinely stalk and attack people in British Columbia like it ain't no thang - and they are relatively small predators. Think of all the man-eating lion, tiger incidents over the years in Africa and India? Think of all the shark attacks. Nah man, they aren't intimidated by us in the least.
@@fabricembida8029 Well, humans stand on two legs which makes us look bigger and that is something that animals understand very easily. Many animal species stand up on their back legs as a way to look bigger to intimidate an attacker.
@@fabricembida8029 Humans have killed mountain lions unarmed, even Leopards. While humans are weak for our size we're still great apes and quite dangerous and capable of killing most animals smaller than us.
@@fabricembida8029 many animals stand on their hind legs to appear bigger, so a creature which just always stands on its hind legs would just appear bigger at all times stuff like cape buffalo dont care because they are the prey animal. most prey animals are more aggressive than most apex predators, as they have more to fear. another thing, most animals are in fact intimidated by humans as we humans have had a tendency to try wiping out the things that scare us. the amount of shark attacks total doesnt even compare to the number of sharks we've killed.
I disagree with the characterization of people as weak. While it's true that we lack some of the things animals have, we are still very physically impressive and dangerous. The mind and body evolved together as a complete package, after all. A human with a pointy stick is a threat to almost any animal.
People seem to forget the one thing that really set us a side from the other animals is our capacity to kill , we are the moat ruthless killer this planet has ever seen we can kill any life form the biggest to the smallest , we can kill with anything from our bear hands to the H-Bomb , things we make inadvertently kill things in an infinite number of ways we kill for , Love , Hate , Honour , Dishonour , Rage , Lust , Sadness , Despair basically any emotion someone somewhere killed someone because of it ... We ow our evolution to it , the scary thing is if there are advanced alien races which have also evolved on planets that have a food chain which they to be the alpha species and they will also have to be the most proficient killers , Star wars shit is probably happening somewhere from things that could delete our solar system in the blink of an eye
I actually think pound for pound humans are quite formidable. We may not have obvious built in weapons like large teeth and claws, but we are masters of grappling and physical manipulation thanks to our dexterity and limb strength. Its not out of the question for us to be able to break some bones or choke an attacking predator, which is arguably much more deadly than some surface flesh wounds.
Nah, pound for pound we absolutely suck in a straight up fight. Our limb strength is lol compared to apes. A chimpanzee would tear a gym rat human male to piece.
@@Camcolitoour strenght is, that even the dumbest gym rat is much smarter than every animal. By far. We are the mamal with the most birth deaths because our head is so big.
@@Camcolito Give us a long stick and some rocks to sharpen the tip and a spear significantly increases our chances of winning. Even if you had no prep time at least a rock may increase the chances a little bit (okay maybe not a rock chimpanzees are a bit tough but you get my point). And tbf we got some unique ways of fighting that a lot of animals can't deal with (eye gouging, wrestling, grabbing onto limbs and maybe breaking them, choking).
One theory I have heard that is that humans don't actually taste bad to predators, but we smell as if we WOULD taste bad. Animals which have eaten humans once are many times more likely to do so again.
I found it cool in an old Nat geo documentary about great white sharks they did a test with the smaller analog sharks (lemon and bonnet head shark from memory) they tested the reaction of different smells in the water. (Human Blood, prey items the sharks would eat etc) They found that the sharks reacted less to human blood and more to their natural food scent. They can only theorise based of that what its like for larger sharks, but it seems they don’t usually associate human blood with food.
This kind of testing has been done with some larger sharks in the open ocean. Never has a shark preferred the human blood, from what I've read and seen. Their bites on humans are usually due to curiosity, accident, an unresistable buff has opened up (like in shipwrecks and plane crashes at sea) or their being unable to hunt their usual prey due to being injured or, in the case of some of the larger great whites possibly, being potentially too slow to hunt their normal prey.
It's funny because orcas will bully other animals that are similarly sized to humans even if they don't plan on eating them, but whenever the see a human swimming, they just watch from a distance.
Forgot to mention one of the main reasons why we are so effective is because we can throw objects far better than any other species. In video game terms we have ranged attacks and everyone else has melee. We can "kite" most animals or use our intelligence to set effective traps.
Truth, no other species has the bone structure to throw with enough force to kill. All animals that can even slightly throw, can barely throw something a few feet.
You have missed asiatic lions, they live so close to humans and often roam into villages but there is only one reported attack so far and its also a provoked attack and lion left the body alone.
Emotional experience to some extent... Bro I've seen magpies going crazy over losing one of their brood so I can only imagine the sorrow a killer whale would feel if it loses its calf.
Magpie and killer whales both are animals that bond for life, quite a few of those out there ironically. Friend had a female Chinchilla and a male Jerboa who shared a cage because both need a partner and they were rescues and would die without companionship... It was rather hilarious seeing one of the two set each other off and they'd go on zoomie sprees and ricochet off the walls of the cage together. (Well unless it was in the middle of the night)
In regards to the intro, it's maybe worth pointing out that humans actually are pretty physically impressive compared to other animals in at least one regard: We're basically the track and field superstars of the animal kingdom. We're not the fastest by any means, but thanks to our exceptional stamina, if you make the race long enough a decently fit human will leave most other animals in the proverbial dust.
Yeah we're not the largest, strongest or fastest, but we're not the smallest, weakest or slowest either. Being bipedal we appear tall to many other predators and this tradeoff of speed/acceleration for endurance means humans will indeed leave EVERY other animal in the proverbial dust with the exception of the ostrich (also bipedal), but that is debatable depending on the distance covered (e.g. marathon vs ultramarathon). Besides having by a long way the most advanced brains, toolmaking ability and ability to communicate, humans also have the best throwing mechanism on the planet, making us by far the most adaptable and effective ground hunters on the planet.
the unprovoked predatory attacks this video mentioned are always done by starving wolves when there other prey is scarce or wolves that can't hunt there normal prey due to injury,illness or young/old age, healthy wolves never attack people unless they are provoked due to knowing we are dangerous, they treat humans in the same way they treat bears where under normal circumstances they won't hunt us but if they are in a situation where they have a choice between starving the death or trying to hunt a dangerous prey item they normally wouldn't there hunger and desire to survive overrides there desire to avoid which is when predatory wolf attacks occur.
@@CrimsonReapa In the modern era... Guy used a qualifier for a reason. Plus, some things to consider... that we know of, how many missing people have been killed by wolves we don't know of, because they are never found? AND, there are not very many wolves left in the world. We nearly wiped them out, and for good reason. They have historically been a true menace to humans.
@@nicodemous52 maybe you shouldn’t put food in front of a wolf take away it’s main food source and expect it to not eat your sheep and idk eat some grass or something
@@shadowbonbon3 Maybe you need to read a little more. Also, are we not also animals native to this planet and are we not also a product of evolution? You act like we are an invading alien species.
@@SD-wj9bv maybe because they know what people did to actual whales during the 1700s to 1900s they pass down stories of it and fear humans because before whaling there was over 1 million sperm whales then after there is only around 300,000
Humans used to work together with Orcas to hunt whales. Maybe the Orcas know we are valuable allies haha. If their language is as sophisticated as thought, they might be able to pass down information down generations and so modern day Orcas know that we are dangerous but also good allies.
Years ago? This incident was 142 years ago. This is ancient news by now. 1880. Those animals were also hunted down further culling that braindead part of the animal from the rest of the species. Also if you look at documented cases of attacks on wolves, it gets substantially less and less through the years of development of human civilization further removing them from even being a threat. The last documented death from a wolf in North America is 12 years ago. "Berner, a teacher and avid jogger, was discovered dead along a road by snowmobilers, who found wolf tracks in the adjacent snow. The Alaska State Medical Examiner ruled that her death was caused by "multiple injuries due to animal mauling." A series of necropsies performed on wolves culled in the surrounding area shortly after the attack ruled out rabies, sickness, or wolf-dog hybridisation as being causes of the attack. The verified case was notable as being the first recorded fatal wolf attack in Alaska in which DNA evidence was gathered to confirm wolf involvement." Always, ALWAYS do humans remove the general population of rabid/biting/aggressive animals after such attacks. Wolves are dangerous but a non-threat to human survival in 2022. 1880? Different story, different time, more biodiversity, more dangerous animals.
@@gianlucasevastamula8630 Greetings from Finland. It was indeed quite different time back then here. I could talk about this in lengths but lets say that humans had practically eradicated the normal food sources of wolves from the area when trying to survive famines. Which is not a case now. Not a single person has been killed by wolves in Finland since then. Those times were also very grim period in our history, being under the Russian oppression.
Just like us, somewhere in the leopard seal world, a young curious seal is listening to another seal talk about how fascinating humans are, and how we don't hunt them, but are just curious most times😊
With the leopard seals I think our bipedalism might make us interesting to them. In just the clips the seal will move with its body horizontally but when it focuses on something it'll transition to a vertical "standing" position sorta like a diver will when they swim. I think we're different enough to other non leopard seals but close enough to them to have them interested and provoke an "empathetic" reaction out of them. And not to be disrespect to the researcher who a leopard seal killed but I think her death might have been accidental on the seals part instead of predation. In the video it's mentioned they were snorkeling which doesn't have an air supply and she was dragged down into the water. Since as far as I know leopard seals don't drown their prey and they recovered her body it seems like it might have been a seal trying to play or "teach" the researcher to dive as the seals are know to give penguins to "teach" humans to hunt.
Yeah I agree with your assessment of the researcher's death - if the seal did actually want her dead I can't see it wasting perfectly good meat in as barren a landscape as Antarctica even if there's more food underwater. It probably swam away from her drowning body thinking the seal equivalent of "Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit!".
Orca’s don’t hunt humans because they acknowledge us as biggest assholes of the land while they are biggest assholes of the sea, game recognizes game.
I wouldn't have put it quite like that, but.....yeah.
based take 10/10
If we're being fair, we're probably the biggest assholes in the sea too.
have you seen what killer whales do? they kill everything and spare nothing heck they kill for why not reasons
This makes 100% sense
"See that son? That is called a human and is a predator like us. Its not as strong or fast as we are but its part of a VERY big pack and if you attack it the whole pack will come after you so always leave it alone" - wolf mom
in terms of strength and maneuverability we are actually more scary than bears from a wolves perspective. a fit fully grown human in fight mode can dislocate the wolves jaws or punch/kick the air out of it's lungs. with higher accuracy and less blind spots than a horse or deer. add a basic weapon like a thick tree branch we are 2x as deadly and un-reachable. in flight mode we can't run as fast but we can run far longer.
@@psionx1 unless they're fighting more than one wolf when you see one more are close by
@@psionx1 thats the thing with us humans, it don't matter if we can run longer than a bear, that bear is twice our speed and will catch up Long before that is ever a problem. Defensively, our speed leaves us vulnerable, offensively with persistence hunting no animal is safe on land.
exactly
They heard what we did to wolves and cats and decided they better leave us alone 😁😁
Orcas: "We have echolocation"
Humans: "We have nukes"
Orcas: "Have a nice day, sir"
One would imagine it's like how elephants avoid bees. Sure they're bigger and deadly one on one but man if you rile up that hive you're going to need to leave that area and not come back for a long while.
Nukes keep us on top 👍👍👍
Lisa: Nuke the whales? 🤔
Nelson: Gotta nuke somethin😏
I think the orcas are closer to ask for cooperation treaties rather than leave us alone lol
@@vaterix4202 actually it's pretty useless...
Unless u have a crazed mind and just want to watch people n places decimated..
It will put u on the opposite side of humanity and u can't really use any resources u nuke..
It's just a tool the informed will fear ..for everything and everyone else..it's just an object
I have a feeling that the Leopard Seel death was not intentionally trying to kill but was an attempt to play. They are surrounded by creatures that can survive under water for long periods of time so probably had no idea humans couldn't do it
I think you could be right there, I had the same thought
i think that was also the case for tilikum, apparently it was playing with one of the divers body, tossing and dragging them around
@@theysaidimasian9766 I mean, perhaps the first time...
You'd think he'd know better by the third time.
I'm pretty sure the seal was just curious and didn't care about killing or not.
@@daandevos122 i mean its not so uncommo nthat htey also drowen seals ,penguins etc by playing around with them
so its prob like
oh no ,,,another toy ,,broke ,,, :( ......well ,,,lets find another one
It's also important to note about that one and only wild orca bite on that surfer who survived:
If you get bitten by literally-an-orca, and you *survive,* then the orca wasn't trying to kill you. Who knows why it bit the guy, but it definitely decided not to kill him.
He just take a bite :)
For REAL. The thing is a tank-sized death machine. There wouldn't be a toe left of you for someone to realize something went wrong, just "lost at sea." I think we're all being a bit optimistic to believe they will _never_ eat a person.
It was a surfer so like a lot of Great White attacks it likely thought the surf board was a seal and when it got a taste of the human and went "Woah! That was not a seal WTF!"
@@SilvaDreams most likely a young one then. I'm sure it got a scolding from its mother later.
He was probably being a dick. Orcas are self aware. We don't classify them as the same level as us only becuase they don't use tools or build houses. Neither of which they would need in there native environments and they aren't equipped to leave the ocean. A true aquatic species would likely stay in the pre Stone age. As everything they need is either already there or a part of there body. We see this in dolphins and Orcas. As well as blue whales the largest preditor on the planet.
Fun fact: Not only do Orcas have complex LANGUAGES. They have dialects, and even engage in fashion trends. There was an orca trend where they wore dead fish as hats. Some even tried to revive trends, but it didn't work
Birds has dialects as well, even the small ones like the great tit
They are also taught what to eat, they don't just swim around eating everything. Things can be toxic or poisonous, pretty smart strategy.
@@Linda-jl5lx Supposedly the mass of bird calls you can hear in trees and stuff sometimes is even the group of birds living in or claiming it telling the new birds in the area that there's nowhere to live
The latest "fad" for orcas is is battering boats. Almost all done by male orcas.
Orcas are humans of the sea like crows are the humans of the air
More likely because we don't behave like prey. Our behavior is more like that of a poisonous animal. We actively approach the predator and maintain eye contact. It's not worth the risk to them.
That's a very good point. It's like when you see a mountain lion, you're supposed to stand tall and put your arms up to look bigger, and make noise.
I think most predators use ambush or chase tactics to avoid injury. If a predator gets hurt in the wild, it's game over for them, so they try to play it safe.
And we have gun
Yet, bears
Besides, some apex predators do attack predators, like the last one where none of its prey is a herbivore
@@1990-w1l We have Big Gun and Torpedos. Humans : 1 - 0 : Orcas
Fun fact (probably unrelated):
A lot of wild animals don't really mess with humans because we look weird and creepy and we're bipedal
...really?
We don’t look weird and creepy, we are.
@@NumericalConfusionthink about what animals most commonly come into contact with in the wild. Things usually fly or walk on all fours. We're the exception. Also, when an animal walks on its hind legs, it's usually a threat display. Picture a grizzly bear standing up on its hind legs to intimidate a human in the wild. "Look how big I am." We're kind of doing that display just walking around normally. We're weird looking and kinda big. Safer to avoid us
@@NumericalConfusionI always thought about what a coyote or bear would see if a couple humans screamed at it and ran towards it with our long arms waving around, yelling weird shit, considering you’re eye level to our waists I feel like I’d be terrified of humans haha
@@clamcrewcarclub6017ive had the same thought about tigers, what would one do if a physically fit person showed not only a lack of fear, but extreme aggression and desire to kill, and started sprinting like a madman toward it. would it feel fear and flea? Would it attack? Would it be too confused to actually know what to do?
“Do we taste bad?”
Mosquitoes: *Explaining for 10 minutes without any ad breaks*
But mosquitos don't feed on every creature with blood. So they don't like the taste of all creatures either. They don't even feed on all people, they will select certain individuals and show preference for them based on smell and taste.
Every Mosquitoe that became a massive nicotine junkie after biting me be like:
The rangers holding euthanasia tranqs standing behind him: "say yes"
@@timothywootton5331mosquitos must love me then because I'm their biggest blood feeder.
@@nightprowler6336 I like to imagine they like biting me cause my blood is sweeter. (I'm diabetic lmao)
Orcas don't only hunt 'fish' when going into rivers etc near Alaska, they hunt MOOSE.
Orca is one of the few natural predators of the moose.
they dont really hunt moose. moose would just go swimming to eat some of the underwater plants and they get hashtag'd by an Orca
@@nathanjones411 casual geographic?
@@Passions5555 ofc
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I think with the orcas and leopard seals, it can be explained by the fact that we are not native to their natural habitat and because they are intelligent creatures they approach us more with a sense of curiosity and caution than a desire to hunt. I think wolves may have evolved to avoid humans instinctively after humans previously killed many of them and they probably also are intimidated by our upright stance as mentioned in the video. They may also acknowledge that we're not as nutritious a meal for a pack as a large deer and also not worth hunting individually when there are smaller, weaker animals to hunt like rabbits and such.
I think this is partly true for the orcas but not fully. They will eat moose. And I think we (especially now) interact with orcas in the wild just as much as moose do. But maybe they recognize us as intelligent and that combined with limited exposure makes a difference.
@@jakeryan4545 My bet is it's closer to the killer whales beaching themselves specifically for seal pups.
The moose regularly swim between landmasses in rivers that the killer whale pods regularly visit so the killer whales have had enough exposure to both the live and dead moose to identify them as food.
Yeah, I feel like leopard seals and killer whales don't hunt humans because they don't really know or understand us, but wolves don't because they DO know us. In fact, I don't think that any apex predator has quite the understanding of humans that wolves do.
I've heard a few stories about interactions between humans and leopard seals and for them in particular it seems that humans are kind of the equivalent of a cute little kitten... They largely seem to treat humans in the way a person would treat a kitten.
@@eluminaryxarrais7735 That's interesting, never really thought about seals having notions like 'cute' maybe I don't give them enough brainpower credit?
I know it sounds weird, but in many areas, where bears got heavily hunted, they tend to stay away from humans even when they are not hunted anymore and the attacks are far less common than in areas, where bears didn't got intensely hunted. It faszinates that each generation of the offspring of those bears learned that humans are dangerous
Gotta wonder how we drive the fear of God into them without hunting?
Those monsters are really scary, especially with those sticks
@@jackhazardous4008 maybe their mothers taught them. I don't know.
It's probably some sort of instinct/gene in the brain. Bears with gene that gives them confidence to attack weird mammal that walks on two legs- gets killed, gene doesn't pass on. Bears without the gene that gives them confidence to attack weird mammal that walks on two legs- doesn't get killed, gene doesn't pass on and whatever brain function that tells them to avoid us gets passed on.
Brother bear
Orca: What’s that?
*A group of strange limbed hairless screaming things with sharp long things stabbing a giant whale and dragging it away every day for 20 years straight*
Orca: … yeah, I’m not touching that.
So we're basically just the crazy person on the subway to them, haha
Yeah and those hairless ship apes have been known to chop fins off sharks and leave them to die... And there's also all the other fishing we do... They're probably smart enough to know they don't want to be treated like those other sea creatures- "Listen to what momma says - act cute and nonthreatening when you see these murderous creatures around!"
@@moonlight4665 more like abducting aliens.
actually it was pretty common for whalers and orcas to hunt whales together. look up the "law of tongue".
@@CuteLethalPuppy Oh yeah, "act cute" - humanity's only weakness.
“They breed with females from other pods, and then go back to live with their mothers” sounds like a species I know…
lol
Couch walrus
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Orcas: Get some meet on you'r bone first
Wolf: Too skinny, not worth the effort
Leopard seal: Here have a penguin
*your
The “be friendly and cute” strategy has worked quite well for cats and dogs
@@adamhbrennan well seals are pretty much water dogs lol
Not really early humans have teached wolves a lesson.
If a human dies because of a member of the pack bunch of human comes and hunt his ass down. Also hunt the rest of the pack too. Other wolf pack observe this and say "alright whatever you guys do. Avoid those bipedal apes, otherwise this pack would get cooked"
I shared an office at university with Kirsty Brown, the unfortunate victim of the leopard seal.
She was a very small woman and I imagine that wearing a black dry-suit would have looked similar to an emperor penguin.
She wasn’t dragged down and drowned, she was bitten on the back of the neck just as leopard seals do to penguins.
That's very eepressing.
thats a reason to not wear black suits there other camos that are better
One reason wolves don't hunt humans is that over the centuries, the bold animals that would be more likely to attack have been removed from the population leaving only the skittish and wary animals to reproduce. This would have changed the behaviour of wolves and they would instinctive avoid humans.
Nah we domesticated the more curious ones leaving the more skittish ones alone lol
The alpha knows not to mess
@@thomaseriksen6885 Kinda the same point
@@thomaseriksen6885 My point is only the non aggressive ones survives and those that are aggressive dies.
Dont care what you think about genetics
@@thomaseriksen6885 They are not aggressive toward humans. Its genetics and natural evolution.
Some of the most dangerous animals to humans aren't even predators.
Like deer. They’re herbivores, but they cause millions of car accidents each year, and many are fatal.
Rhinos, cape buffalo, hippos...
@@edwardtu79themixedcontentctr While Human is the most dangerous creature to most animals.
ticks, fleas, mosquitos...
@@Flufux don’t forget moose.
I heard about a theory that if orcas communication and intelligence is as advanced as some people think they could easily pass down stories from the times of whaling when it was not unheard of for orcas to help whalers catch whales in return for the carcass once the whalers got the oil and whatever else they hunted them for. And even tell their offspring what we are capable of with our ships should we become enemies.
Personally I think its a mix of passed down behavior from the older members of the pod who might have encountered humans with positive outcomes and a intelligent fascination with us for being utterly alien from the sea. They are so intelligent that they might be able to grasp the concept that there is a world unknown to them on land and interacting with humans is a way to sate some curiousity about it. Either way I hope that I get to swim with some one day.
Lone Orcas have been known to seek out human contact
I though whalers hunted Orcas too.
@@jazz3911 Only if the orcas were somehow interfering with the hunt.
Orcas are much faster than the large whales, therefore harder to catch. Also, only one side of their brain sleeps at a time, so they're harder to sneak up on. When you add in the much smaller amount of blubber an orca has (an average humpback weighs 5 times as much as the largest known orca), it's simply not worth the whaler's time to hunt orcas.
There are cases of whalers, seal hunters and fishermen trying to kill orcas, mostly because the orcas were seen as competition. Every seal, whale, or fish the orcas kill is one less for the humans.
@@rogerrabbit80 i see, thanks for the info man 👍
I dont get why people wanna risk their life to swim with killing machines. Stupidity.
One thing that will always give you a decent edge over a lone predator is our aptness for ranged combat. Chuck a few decent sized rocks at a wolf, score a few hits and it'll be freaked out at how you're causing it pain when it itself isn't near close enough to retaliate. It will most likely retreat because you're not worth the risk.
I dont think most humans realize how insane the concept of throwing is, it might be even more impressive than our intelligence.
The ability to cause repeated ranged damage is something literally no other animal can do. Sure spitting cobras can spit a couple feet, and some insects can spray a bit but the ability to just pick up a rock and use it to cause major damage from far away is basically a super power. (Not even apes are not capable of throwing things remotely like humans)
Its more amazing than flying or any other abilities we consider to be impressive.
Wolves are shy by nature if you see a wolf it will likely run away but if it doesn’t it’s because there is 10 others behind you.
Wolves also seem to match themselves against an opponent and try to assess their chances of success early in the battle. If they realize they can't win, the tails start wagging and the tongue comes out -- they try to make friends.
There's a video somewhere on TH-cam of a pack of wolves going against a Great Pyrenees protecting a flock of sheep. First they are fierce, then the alpha gets a look on his face like, "What are you doing! Can't you see my pups are hungry??!! Traitor!" Then one of them opens his jaws, attempting to get them around the pooch's neck, and realizes he can't come close. He then grins and pants, and a few seconds later the whole pack is trotting cheerfully around the fluffy dawg, as if saying, "Hey, that was fun! So do you think the hooman would hire us too???"😂
I remember watching a documentary about why lions are scared of humans. I forgot if it was just at a certain location or if it was in general. It said, for thousands of years the lions that did hunt humans were killed by our ancestors and the ones that ran away from us were able to reproduce more thus passing on their traits. Maybe the same thing happened to the wolves. The aggresive ones got killed while the friendliest ones got tamed.
Well the tamed ones are the modern day dogs.
The masai. They still walk through and lions run. Bug only them. From a rites of passage that requires them to kill a lion being given only a spear and dagger.
It’s ingrained in them to fear the masai.
I’ve read that due to lion population being threatened they no longe partake in that ritual/custom whatever u wanna call it
@@josephdancer1401 Yea, the Masai is definitely one of the tribes causing lions to fear humans rather than hunt.
Nope lion's won't run from humans
@@josephdancer1401 aye from Kenya here. I can confirm that you're right
To make a slight correction;
while it is tempting to say humans are physically unimpressive, what allowed humans to begin prospering and further develope in the first place was our impressive long distance stamina thanks to our ability to sweat.
By sweating to cool our bodies, humans have virtually instant recovery times when compared to other mammals. Early human hunting packs could track and chase large prey animals over miles until their prey simply couldn't continue. We would just follow our prey until it was too tired to move. This ability not only made us some of the most terrifying and diligent predators in Earth's history, but in my opinion is equally as powerful as our intelligence.
@@charles2521 Steroids and Cardio are a deadly combo. Thats the problem.
@@charles2521 coalition does not mean causation.
Endurance hunting being a main hunting strategy for humans is a misconception. Humans have been mostly ambush hunters and chasing over long distances is rarely worth the time and energy. Not only do you need to have the ground be in perfect condition for tracking, you expend a lot of water and need to be able to bring all that meat back. To top that off, only the most fit of people could pull hunts like that off.
To cite a source, here is an excerpt from "Why are humans good at endurance running? The answer is murky." By TIMOTHY F. KIRN/UNDARK on Popular science:
"The idea of ancient humans as persistence hunters, possessed of superior physical capability, has a certain romance about it and has become very popular with running enthusiasts. Some scientists suggest it can explain several of the evolutionary traits humans have acquired over the past two million years. There may be some groups who practice it even today, though that’s hotly debated. Despite the idea’s foothold in popular culture, however, there is no hard evidence that ancient humans were persistence hunters, much less that persistence hunting shaped evolutionary traits. In fact, what evidence there is doesn’t support the notion that early humans acquired their meaty meals through feats of running endurance; it flatly contradicts it."
Another excerpt:
"Bunn recognized a golden opportunity. “We don’t usually get such clear-cut evidence to test something from 2 million years ago,” he said. He and Pickering thought that if they could age the different animals in that collection, they could glean whether the animals were scavenged, persistence hunted, or hunted some other way. If the animals had been scavenged or captured by persistence hunting, they likely would have been either very young or very old. Savanna predators like lions and leopards don’t chase the healthiest, fastest animals of a herd-and presumably persistence hunters wouldn’t either. Rather, they’d chase the ones that are easiest to catch.
But the researchers found that most of the animals in the collection were either young adults or adults in their prime. Of the 19 animals they could identify, only four were very young or old.
To Bunn and Pickering, that suggested the animals hadn’t been chased down. And because there were butchering marks on the bones with the best meat, it was also safe to assume that animal carcasses hadn’t been scavenged by humans after being killed by other predators; the predators surely would have taken the prime portions for themselves.
"Instead, Bunn believes ancient human hunters relied more on smarts than on persistence to capture their prey. In his paper with Pickering, he suggests that our ancestors would wait in brushy, forested areas for the animals to pass by. They may have even hidden in the branches of trees, since hooved animals tend not to look up. That would have allowed the hunters to get close enough to club the animal with a sharp object."
Nobody will read this whole thing, but I think dispelling misconceptions is a good thing.
@@trulyinfamous holy smokes, thank you for this comment! I had no idea about this and its immensely interesting! While i think it is wrong to assume perssitence hunting was absent in primitive hunting strategies (especially in areas with open terrain and little cover), i do admit it i was a bit foolish in assuming this would be our predominant strategy given our intelligence. Early humans would have been foolish not to take advantage of this intelligence to plan ambushes and other complex hunting strategies.
I have to admit i would like to do more research on the topic before being swayed either direction but i thank you for taking the time to contradict my point and educate me on the subject! Thank you again!
Don't forget opposable thumbs and the ability to throw objects (gorilla's can't throw stuff very far)
Why wolves stay away from humans:
Wolf A: What about that tasty looking critter?
Wolf B: Where?
Wolf A: Over there! The one on two legs.
Wolf B: Are you nuts? Never, ever go near one of those!
Wolf A: What do you mean? It doesn't look that dangerous...
Wolf B: You have no idea. Do you see the dachshund and chihuahua with it?
Wolf A: You mean that weird sausage creature and the furry flea?
Wolf B: Yes!
Wolf A: Um... They don't look very dangerous, either...
Wolf B: You don't get it. Those were wolves, until the two-legs got hold of them!
Wolf A: Yelp! /*vanishing in the distance*/
That's a good point.
Becarful or we will breed you with you mom and sisters till we have monstrous genetic freaks that will be unrecognizable to your kind.
Forgot to mention what men do to their ballsacks
You'd think one whiff and they'd be like, " Eeewwww, no thanks!"
European wolves aren't particularly afraid of humans. The winter of 1450 Paris was under constant fear of wolf attacks, up to and including the city market itself.
During ww1 the Germans and Russians had a temporary ceasefire to hunt down the wolf packs that were killing and eating men in the trenches.
@@W1ldSm1le Wolves have been heavily hunted since 1450. The bolder individuals were killed off. Also, keep in mind, people have always been prone to exaggeration. The wolf was the monster in myth and folklore; no other animal that actually existed has a reputation like that. How many attacks would it take, to put a city in fear?
As for WWI, the wolves weren't hunting men. Men were killing men, and the wolves were scavenging on the corpses that were left in no-man's land. You see, there's only so much dead and rotting flesh you can leave around, before even the most timid scavengers will be drawn in.
Of course, this was very unfortunate for anyone who'd be shot to pieces, but was somehow still alive, abandoned in the darkness and mist, unable to defend themselves or flee.
Today, attacks by European wolves are beyond rare.
Well, in instances where orcas become stranded or trapped in shallow waters, humans often come to their aid. This assistance can include efforts to refloat the stranded orcas and guide them back to deeper waters. These rescue efforts may foster positive associations between orcas and humans, potentially contributing to a general lack of aggression.
It's not too far of a stretch considering their high intelligence, proven communication skills and ability to reason and coordinate attacks. Perhaps one day science will progress enough that we can actually interview one of them.
Conversely, getting trapped in fishing nets would harbor negative associations towards boats - not humans, boats - which might be why there are orcas attacking and even sinking boats near the Mediterranean
@@purrfekt i heard scientists are getting close to decode their language, the funny thing is that their language is like ours, they have several, not just one! Hence why they also have different cultures.
The fact that humans don't have sharp claws and teeth doesn't mean they're not threatening. It means that they're so threatening that the minor advantage provided by leaving those structures behind was stronger than the overwhelming advantage that those structures provide to many predatory animals. It's not a weakness, it's the flex of an apex predator.
Good point.
That's a very interesting view point👍
Humanity - nature's greatest flexer.
Humans are actually not an apex predator but just a realyl bad scavenger
no joke cuase if oyu kill a cow ,pig etc and would try to eat the meat right after its to tough for us to eat and it would not taste good in our opinions
so it have to hung for (depending on the meat) 2-9 weeks or even more
technically starting to rott
so we can actually eat and digerst it properly
but thats not how predators work ,,, theyx kill and eat it sure they will also scavenge but they still be able to digest frehsly killed meat with no trouble
the next thing is that when you kill an animal you have to prepare it properly like letting it bleed out etc otherwise the taste and quality will suffer
its another point of showing that we are just really bad scavengers
prob we are not much diffrent from a Creyfish or Crab
munching most of our time on plant matter but take any chance we got to get on a carcass and try to make a kill from time to time
would also explain why concuming to much meat /animal products makes our bodys actually sick
cause if crabs/greyfish consume to much meat/animal stuff they will also get sick and die younger then the ones munching mostly on plant matter
That’s terrifying
Wolves:
I experienced in the wilds of Northern Ontario, that the Timber Wolves leave us well alone.
I have been surrounded by packs of Wolves and it was very obvious that they were curious.
When their curiosity was satisfied, they just left quietly.
All predators are naturally afraid of us, cuz we're not a part of their natural habitat. The only exception is crocodiles, who will eat ANYTHING that wanders too close.
That sounds terrifying
It was , once the pack was sure it was a human the flead the human didn't
Yup...Truth Fritz...2 friends ad I in a tent in Banff...at night...same experiences...wolves were cal ..do we're we..no fight needed
Fool! Look into the Russian wolves in the war. They effigy up.
One thing I'd add because vids like this always seem to not mention- humans got where we are not only because of our intelligence and tool use, but because of our complex social behaviours. A lone human in the wild is pretty vulnerable, but multiple humans working together can scare away even the most dangerous natural predators.
It's similar for cetaceans (whales and dolphins), and to some extent also for wolves, so they also have evolutionary pressure to communicate quickly and reliably in ways that the prey doesn't understand. This is probably why cetaceans appear to also have complex languages, and why dogs, while not having language, are still amazingly good at communicating with humans.
There’s an archeologist/anthropologist (I don’t quite remember) who said that the earliest sign of civilization isn’t something like tool use or agriculture as one might expect. It’s a healed femur, because it’s the kind of injury that you can’t survive without a lot of help. If you live past the injury long enough for the bone to heal, it means that someone carried you to safety, tended your wound, watched over you, brought you food for weeks or months, etc. Caring for one another is where civilization begins.
A human is not the fastest but it will run the longest other animals expend alot of energy to run .humans can literally run prey to death
@@auntvivienne8669 i believe it was an archeologist. There was a fossil discovery a couple years ago and they found it had a healed break, which was a big deal because it was evidence that species was somewhat intelligent, at least on par with canids (this was a million year old fossil though, not a dino)
@@auntvivienne8669 Indeed, well put. Empathy is the foundation of civilization.
The most interesting behavior I have seen in all of the animal kingdom is that the majority of predators avoid potential danger, and yet at the same time show an interest in the things that they don't deem worth hunting. It applies to any large intelligent predator in a remarkably similar way. I wish we knew more about all the other amazing life forms on this planet so we could understand how to properly communicate, and interact with them as well as gain more respect for our little blue dot.
Absolutely this. It pays for a predator to be both cautious - if one loses an eye or a canine tooth, for example, it could seriously impair their ability to hunt depending on the species - and curious. It makes a great deal of strategic sense to keep your options open but also to watch your six (and have your buddies do so with special species like dolphins and wolves). Many prey species are nearly as dangerous as the ones that predate upon them, and opportunity sometimes knocks on strange doors.
I mean it kinda makes sense right? Prey species don’t need to have much going on upstairs to survive well. They just gotta chew grass and run like hell. It doesn’t take much to outsmart grass. Predators’ curious nature is useful because it helps them learn how to utilise the environment to get a leg up on prey that are usually bigger and faster than they are
If you ask me, i think its Evolution, because wer humans practice "revenge" and we are realy good and effective at it,... Yes We are weak alone... With a suprise attack...
But oh boy, what comes after that, is not funny for the animal that did that.
Because when We take revenge and hunt them down... Yeah... For example Wolfs ... If every Pack that hunted humans got rotted out... That's leaves Only the ones that dont do that, and that is better for survival than hunting human, Evolution did what it Always does, the surving genes get passt down to the next Generation 😅
I would add that most orcas have very specific prey items on their menu that they specialize in hunting, and often don’t target animals not on the list. They build routines and practices for their specifies prey items. For obvious reasons humans don’t provide enough opportunities to build those practices, so there’s one reason they approach people with curiosity rather than a hunting attitude.
That makes sense, I myself would not eat any meat from animals that looks very different than the one I used to eat, unless in a desperate situation. (So... no reptiles, rodents, exotic animals, etc)
If only they know that basically anything works on humans.
That's almost certainly their #1 reason.
This is very true. We think of them as generalists because overall they eat such a wide range of marine life. But as he said each pod has their own culture and their own specialties in hunting. It's pretty narrow niche partitioning, though they are also very intelligent and might well check out a novel source of prey and/or entertainment.
true, but that doesn't really explain why no human got ever seriously _hurt_ by wild orcas. there are many animals which don't consider humans as prey (think herbivores) but still are very dangerous for humans and even constantly cause a number of deaths (e.g. hippos). orcas don't. why? I would be very nervous and fear for my health if I were to encounter a rhino but I would feel quite safe in the company of an orca.
"Despite being physically unimpressive."
Don't underestimate the overpowered dexterity (mostly regarding hands) and almost unrivaled long distance stamina. These are argualby just as historically important in making humans a dominant species as intelligence. Stamina may not be that important anymore, but intelligence would be just as useless without dexterity as dexterity would be without intelligence. A lion wouldn't become more dangerous with a spear even if it had human intelligence, because it still couldn't use it effectively. Humans are not physically unimpressive, we just are not pysically powerful and dangerous in a traditional sense.
We actually are even impressive in an traditional sense, a heavyweight boxer punches with the force of a horses kick which is (with precision) enough to kill nearly every mammal.
Also people tend to use dudes as comparison to animal strength, wich are physically and mentally unshape to kill, and simply never had to hunt or exercise for survival.
I've often wondered if someone of the most intelligent species would have evolved further if it had the ability to hold things. Just take away that ability and we'd be unable to develop any technology
@@tomlxyz yeah, I've thought of that too. I've heard somethin about dolphins being hypotethically smart enough to form societies similar to early human ones in complexity, but they don't have the hands to do it.
Back when humans actually had to fight for their survival, I do imagine we were physically much better off than the average specimen today. Relying upon our technology and intelligence likely caused a decline in other physical faculties.
@@tomlxyz it is not enough. Octopuses have that ability and yet there is no way ever they will form a civilization of any kind simply because they dont live long enough to actually meet and teach their kids, as they die rather fast after mating.
I like the fact that the primary reason for not being hunted is basically we're not worth the effort. We're easy kills but actually the hassle would exceed the benefit.
Are we easy kills? Humans have successfully hunted all 3 of these apex predators.
@@greenwave819 don't think that matters. Yes, we might be able to kill them but that doesn't mean it's also not easy to be killed by them. Same way as we've successfully invented machines to be able to fly in the air but that doesn't mean if I fall from the sky I won't make a large and bloody crater in the ground when I land.
@@greenwave819 without weapons
@@greenwave819
Innocent people are yeah. But if it happens and continuously hunting squads will go out and hunt the killer whales. Killer whales will know they will be slaughtered if they step out of line they're not stupid
@@슬라바우크라이나헤로 uhhmmm....even without weapons Humans is Highly Dangerous Why "FIRE" when we learn to make Fire its Game over its the Main Reason why we Flip the Food Chain and we become the Super Apex Predator in the land.
What most people think: Orcas are smart enough to know not to mess with humans.
What I think: Orcas are smart enough to make sure that when they do kill a human the rest of us will never find out about it.
Those of us who went for evening to night time swims.
Orcas are incredible creatures. the fact they marvel at us instead of use us as a volley ball like they do to seals and sharks is kinda confusing to me. when I first learned they aren't whales but big dolphins it kinda makes more sense (even though orcas are known to hunt other dolphins) they are naturally curious creatures who have always been curious and playful with humans. I think it's also a blessing they don't hunt us or else past people would have likely drove them to extinction.
They fear us. As all apex predators do.
If you look up orca taxonomy, you will see that they are Odontoceti, toothed whales.
Yeah if there’s anything in the world that tried to go after humans as prey we’d do anything in our power to eliminate them. So far the closest any other animal can get is mosquitos which aren’t usually life threatening on their own and hippos but they’re just defensive assholes 😂 a very surprising amount of people have been killed because of them.
@@totallynotafanficreader7850 it's not the mosquito that ends up killing humans it is the parasite(s) they infect us with. But for sure those little bastard do hunt us fearlessly and successfully.
I believe they were hunted in the past and they're so smart they developed the sense to stay away from us
Seals are a group that I'm shocked haven't been domesticated at any point in history. They're basically water dogs and would fit the equivalent role dogs hold for hunters but tailored to fishermen instead
Seals can't really hunt for someone else they eat the prey right away (krill or fish)
Leopard seals are the exceptions, being the only one eating warm blood preys but they are solitary animals that don't even really accept the presence of other leopard seals so good luck to domesticate it ;)
Easy answer... Were land animals... How to domesticate a wolf? Steal a puppy, bring it home where youre safe from mama wolfs revenge, raise it in your backyard, feed it with stuff you have around you. Easy right?
How to domesticate a leopard seal? Build a house near water, build a boat that is big enough to support you for a couple of days to go hunting for leopard seal babies, steal the baby and survive the attack of mama seal while being in a tiny wooden boat out on the open sea... Hope no storm hits you while being on the sea... Hope you dont spring a leak... Hope your food and water dont get spoiled by anything so you starve to death or dehydrate... Bring it home, build a huge water basin or fenced off part of the sea, go out fishing every goddamn day to feed it and eventually youll get a domesticated leopard seal.
After that you start realizing that you have been fishing all the time and cought enough fish to feed yourself and a hundrets of pounds seal, so the seal starts to feel really useless all of a sudden... You could have eaten all the fish and sold whatever you got left somewhere for money or treats...
Domesticating seals would have been a pain in the arse and dangerous, cause at that times tens or hundrets of thousands of years ago when we started domesticating animals, every kind of water was a dangerous place for humans to hang around. Especially the oceans. Cows, wolfes and big cats were basically easy to catch right in your front yard, so no need to go to the ocean to domesticate something you have almost no access to.
And at that time we actually had boats and could actually domesticate sea creatures, fishing skills were already so good developed, that it made no sense to domesticate something to catch fish for you, if you had towlines where you could catch dozens of fishes at once.
If you want to know more, theres some exelent documentaries about how humans domesticated animals...
I wish our ancestors hadnt been that affraid of sabertooth cats, they just killed them off when they saw them, but theres speculations if at some point humans did actually domesticae sabertooth cats for hunting. Problem with that theory was, wolfes are roughly the size and weight of humans, so if it decides for some reason it has enough of your domestication efforts, its easy to fend off an angry wolf. Good luck trying fending off an angry 800 pound sabertooth tiger thats fed up with your bullshit or doesnt want to share its prey with you. Guess same goes for cavebears, could have been domesticated, but you know, 12 feet long, 2000 pounds... As an early human you start wondering the "maybe benefits" are worth the risk...
@@KaotikBOOO I mean, didn't wolves eat their food right away at first too? Dogs still often do if you don't train them otherwise.
@@nitro8529 I mean, you probably wouldn't be going for leopard seals given how far away their hunting territories are - you'd be going for easier finds like grey seals and the like which would also be easier to feed and control due to their smaller size plus you could just grab a stranded/abandoned pup from your local beach - unlikely they'd grab a guarded one though as grey seals can 'sprint' up to 35 km/h (so unless you're an olympic sprinter, you aren't gonna get away) plus seal pups being left unguarded isn't too rare.
That said, to add to your point, the important thing for domestication isn't 'steal a puppy, bring it home' but to have *many* puppies to eventually start a breeding stock that isn't gonna incest-itself to extinction in a few generations and that's a significantly larger slice of your catch (average grey seal eats about 5kg of fish per day, multiply that by a minimum of 4 and you could feed a family of 5 for a week from a single day of their diet). Also, aside from pelts (for which prey animals are generally better anyway), wolves and cats aren't really good for anything as their meat isn't exactly known for it's deliciousness; seals on the otherhand have been hunted for their blubber and meat for thousands of years, making them too valuable as prey to be a companion predator and too predatory/aggressive to be domesticated prey. Final reason; wolves helped man hunt more/larger prey than they might otherwise have been capable of whereas seals don't typically hunt prey larger than themselves, so it doesn't give you any more options even after all that investment.
All this is to say, dogs and their ancestors were perfect for ancient man in a way no other animal can replicate and should be cherished as the good boys/girls they are/were.
There are stories of domesticated seals in alaska that died off as a result fo a series of hard winters.
There is also some evidence that neolithic peoples on the baltic coast domesticated seals but at some point the practise disappeared.
It´s scary to think that while we study orcas and leopard seals, they study us too. Maybe not in a complex way but still...
What if orcas pass on information about humans to other orcas? That would mean that the more we learn about orcas, the more they learn about us.
even if that were true, we'd learn quicker.
Would explain why they leave us alone. It seems to be mutual (mostly.)
Shane Lawrence, we're not debating the speed of their learning, but the fact that they learn very close to our level. Respect to the 1 animal we fear for all the wrong reasons.
They do, to an extent. But there's not a lot of interaction between different orcas living in separate areas.
I think that would only mean they learned a long time ago to not make an enemy of humans
Only ever encountered 2 wolves, in Romania where I was on vacation in a wooden cabin by a forest lake. I was fishing as they approached and my Romanian friend who had a lot more experience told me to continue fishing. The wolves sat down about 50 meters from us and just watched us for about 15 minutes, I heard howling from somewhere else and the two wolves just vanished, unfortunately I did not have my smartphone with me as it was supposed to be a "no-electronics" vacation.
Salut!
A Scottish wildlife ranger told me a story of something that happened to him and some friends who were out canoeing in the Atlantic. They were approached by a pod of orcas who circled them. They pulled all their canoes together and started praying. The whales kept circling them for nearly an hour, getting very close and looking them in the eye. Eventually they got bored and swam off. Quite an experience!
It could be they were protecting the group. They have been recorded protecting kayakers from sharks
who tf canoned in fkin atlantic ocean
@@phonixfire5815 I have...
They're actually dolphins, not whales. I'm not trying to correct you, just adding an interesting fact.
@@kennybadger Why? Why would they do that?
I think with orcas they have a strong cultural memory and they remember us from the whaling days. Though we didn’t really hunt them they definitely saw us at work on their larger cousins. In fact down in Eden NSW Australia a pod of killer whales allied themselves with a whaling company to cooperatively hunt baleen whales.
imagine humans with dog levels of domesticated orcas
It was sort of a cooperative thing as I understand it. The whales wanted the tongue which the whalers didn’t want and both groups were able to make the kill with much less risk. This being old school whaling days with towing boat and hand thrown harpoons.
Whalers have caught killer whales. The Soviets caught 900 in a single season in the Antarctic one year. Generally though they're not targeted.
What cousins? Orcas are dolphins, they were called killer whales as the shorter version of killer of whales, some literally hunt down blue whales they aren't scared of us they are just used to eat the same things and also they probably don't know if we might be poisonous because we have never been on their menu
They're animals.. they have no culture.. culture by it's very definition is human only as well.. next I'm sure you'll be saying boys are girls too..
Orca's are VERY common in the northwest coast of North America. And many people have encounters with them where they simply come up to check the person out. Many people using simple things like paddle boards or kayaks report encounters with Orcas. There is even footage of an Otter jump on someones boat to escape an Orca and the Orca not harassing the boat.
Sharks leave people alone almost all of the time as well. Those rare times they attack are usually test bites because they are not sure what we are.
@@Tugela60 that's not completely true. It depends on the age and size of the shark. Bigger/older sharks know what they are doing for the most part. If they are biting you, it's usually either territorial or it wants to consume you (they may be desperate for food). Smaller/younger Sharks definitely have been shown to display behavior where they attack people because of mistaken identity... But the idea that generally Sharks only attack people because of mistaken identity is a myth that gets perpetuated in popular media. If you actually look at the recorded shark attacks through history, there are numerous cases of Sharks actively hunting humans and eating them alive. In these cases, I guess someone could argue the first bite was an accident, but when it comes to the the second and third bites, that theory goes out the window. These attacks are rare relative to human/shark interactions, but they are within the range of potential outcomes.. whereas a human's relationship to Orcas is completely different. Orcas do not want to eat you, there's no evidence to suggest they do.
It's a rare occurrence for humans to be treading water in the open ocean in the first place.. when a boat capsizes and leaves people stranded for example, the fear of sharks is justified, because you are a floating easy meal.. sharks that attack people stranded at sea know what they are doing.. they will avoid large groups of people conjugated together in favor of trying to pick out stragglers.. if they are in the area and they are hungry enough, they'll have a go at you. None of this is an accident.
@@waynetables6414 Man eating sharks while a thing that happens from time to time are still pretty much the minority. Humans are a Horrible source of sustinance as the amount of bones compared to flesh and fat is pretty high basicaly we are the worst thing to eat for large predators as we are basicaly filled with stuff they can´t digest and a low in nutrational value food on top of it. Add to that that humans are spitefull prey with the dexterity to attack weak spots like eyes or other sensory organs we are realy not worth it
@@ericcampbell9470 That's the Southern Resident population in Washington state. The Northern populations are growing. With 300+ whales in BC and 2300 in Alaska. Look it up.
@@waynetables6414 okay so bull sharks and tiger sharks=all sharks?
What makes humans dangerous is our ability to dish out vengance. We are very, very vengeful creatures. Even towards members of our own species....
I have heard this before, that is a great point.
I reckon Orcas can pass down stories and knowledge. Maybe they know that we are effective at killing whales with our ships and harpoons, and there were cases of Orcas helping humans to hunt whales in exchange for part of the kill. Maybe the Orcas today have heard stories of humans that were whaling and know that we can work together but also know how dangerous we can be if we're enemies.
orcas 100% pass down knowledge, and since they have unique languages, probably stories in a really basic form, which convey enough info for them to know what to fuck with and what to run away from
I mean Orca's are not whales they are dolphins
@@jackwhitbread4583 when did I say they are whales? Can you even read?
Lmao
@@jackwhitbread4583 dolphins techinally are smaller whales you baffoon
Orca dad:
You know those seals with the real long thin flippers that go riding around on those magic floating rocks, it's best not to mess with them.
Wolf dad:
Don't ever mess with that kind of monkey, they can kill you with thunder or turn you into one of their mutant slaves or even a pug.
Meanwhile Bears: "Auwghhhh" *kills*
Lmao 🤣
Gorilla dad: See those very strange looking monkeys? They're cool with us until they piss us off. But even then we don't stand a chance against them. We just don't.
@@yo_mi if dangerous why friend shaped?
@@yo_mi
Bears actually avoid humans if they have the option. Catching a spear or javelin (or these days, a bullet) can permanently cripple them.
"Regular" dolphins are predators who seem to like human as well. There are a lot of stories of dolphins intentionally saving humans from shark attacks.
Even bigger whales tends to save other animals (including humans) from sharks. Mammals together I guess :-D
One theory is that, rather than being uber intelligent, porpoises sometimes help people in distress because they mistake humans for injured porpoises.
@@lairdmichaelscott Not a chance they think we're their species. They'd have to be crazy dumb to think that. They're not that dumb.
Fun fact - if a dolphin finds you drowning in the ocean it is more likely to r@pe you than save you
@@lairdmichaelscott That's been debunked 😂
Apex predator cub: mom, why don't we hunt these weak, puny, slow creatures, aren't we apex predators?
Mom: that's how we stay apex, son.
My theory for orca and seal:
Imagine you are sitting in your backyard and you saw an animal you never encountered before. It seems harmless and doesn't look like the stuff you normally eat. Now what would you do?
I think many of us, might want to play with it or even try to feed it if you had a bread in your hand (let's forget about that "do not approach wild animal" rule for a minute).
Long story short, curiosity.
i mean, humans do tend to consider things small enough and harmless looking enough as friend shaped, that probably could apply to other creatures too
Orcas are just smart enough to know not to mess with the creators of Tsar Bomba and torpedoes.
they are intelligent, they see us on boats all the time and deploying big things and controlling them. their not stupid enough to make us food.
You should also consider that we as humans tend to kill any individual animal that was found to attack one of us. This creates an evolutionary advantage for all representatives of species that are ignoring/friendly to us.
It can’t override situations of enormous starvation - but sifts out general misbehavior.
That reminds me of lion seals who reportedly brought dead fish to divers and scientists and some even tried to teach human how to hunt like they do with there young.
Its honestly quite amazing to think that for as much as we ponder and study Orcas that they're staring right back trying to figure out the strange being in their waters.
I just realised how similar leopard seals are similar to cats in terms of behaviour : both bring dead animals to people as a sign of friendliness, both like to toy around with their prey ( and when it comes to big cats like pumas then both could be a man eater but usually are chill and just mind their business). and it wloud seem that leopard seals wloud have more dog-like behaviour since canines and pinnipeds are distant relatives.
Pinnipeds*
@@totallynot572 sorry ( got the spelling wrong)
@@indyreno2933 that's what I meant by calling them "distant relatives"
I feed seals, and can confirm they act like dogs and are very cute
same haha i literally said to myself "that's so wierd! they're like cats!" and then scrolled down to the comments and saw this
when it comes to wolves not hunting us, I think a big part of it comes from a while back when there was a bounty on wolves, which lead to a lot of them getting picked off by humans, it may have become instinct to avoid humans because of this
I was fishing on a beach on the east coast of NZ a couple years ago and a leopard seal was just chilling in the sand dunes. We thought it was exhausted and baking in the 32 degree sun so we poured sea water on it and it slowly made its way back to the sea as we did it. It seemed genuinely pleased.
in your use of the word 'genuinely', ask yourself "does this word help change the meaning of the sentence?" It seemed pleased vs it seemed genuinely pleased. Succinct writing is smart writing!
@@greenwave819 woah! Grammar class outa nowhere
@@greenwave819 I genuinely think it does add some meaning 😂
@@greenwave819 It does change the meaning. The leopard seal was pleased to the fullest degree. Ask yourself, “Is my comment necessary?” Pretentious commenting is annoying commenting!
@Green Wave, I hate the comments that write "would of" or "there" when they mean "they're," but adding an (in your opinion) unnecessary adjective or adverb is no reason to comment. If people took your advice, there would be some pretty boring work out there. No poetry. No interesting novels. Just the boring old facts.
0:14 Actually, human jaws are actually very strong for their size. Unfortunately, your teeth will often break before you can use full force, and your brain will usually prevent you from biting with full force, the same way it prevents you from easily biting off your finger.
But then we look at the gorilla and we lose all confidence in our bite strength. Pretty sure gorilla bite strength is in the top of the top 10 strongest bites in the animal kingdom, over 1000 psi. It’s why they’ve got such tall heads, and why they likely won’t evolve larger brains in the foreseeable future: they have crazy big jaw muscles and structure that anchors all the way up their heads.
@@water3602 our bite force varies from region in the mouth as well your molars can exert something like 8-10x of our front teeth
Hmmm we may be 'soft and squidgy' in appearance but from the perspective of wild animals humans are a hell of a lot more dangerous than you'd think, not just because of our intelligence.
Opposable thumbs, a bipedal stance and the ability to sweat are pretty unique advantages for a land animal.
Not saying we're as adapted for fighting/killing as animals with weapons for hands, but we don't need to be - our general purpose nature makes us uniquely unpredictable/dangerous for any animal in a fight (never mind our ability to make weapons).
We can outlast any animal on endurance and we exist almost exclusively in groups - groups which have a tendency to seek out and kill anything that eats our friends.
Even if we were nutritious enough to warrant eating, we are definitely not a soft target.
Don’t forget one of the most important yet overlooked factors - the completely unique ability to throw. A Hunan with a rock is insanely dangerous.
People saying we're soft and squishy as if we're any different from humans 100 000 years ago. We just fast twitch strong muscle fibers for slow twitch endurance ones. We evolved to run and sweat, that was the entirety of the physical requirements to survive. The rest was thanks to tools and intelligence.
@@ddc2957 very good point
@@ddc2957 true, not many other animals have mastered projectiles, and only snakes have projectiles that are more dangerous (natural projectiles). A human with a basic throwing arm could kill a bear with a rock if it hits the right place
I think even our earliest ancestors would have been formidable to any threats or competition. Walking apes with fire, spears, and cunning plans. They've probably been removing competitors and threats for 3 million years and created a lot of instinctive caution against us. Even Lions show a lot of hesitancy and usually have to be conditioned into not being afraid of us e.g. lions in wildlife parks eventually can become aggressive and want to attack, if they've been exposed to humans all their lives. Kind of like how humans can overcome there instinctive fear of snakes, and handle them, with enough exposure and familiarity.
Sincerely appreciate the time it took the author to remain on the subject of Orca. They definitely deserve it.
Green anacondas are also pretty docile towards humans. Many captive and wild ones have shown to be very curious of humans.
Jaguar never kill human,,stupid content
Our shoulders make us harder to swallow then then their usual prey and they only eat 3 times a year
@@Bandersnatch41 they still consider it which is scary enough
There's actually no verified cases of green anacondas eating a human.
Friends had a rock python who was so cool, I wanted one. When I finally found one for sale, it was curled up in the back of the cage, daring me to stick a hand in. Reflected that even within the same species, different animals have different personalities / temperaments.
I can speak on the first 2.
Orcas. I have an acquaintance who was traveling by a small sailing boat and they were attacked by orcas. The orcas attempted to overturn the boat and also went after it with their teeth, ripping the rudder to shreds and immobilizing them, requiring them to declare an emergency to get rescued and towed to port.
Allegedly it was done by a pod of orcas known to attack vessels, it might have something to do with humans going after them first and they're taking revenge.
Wolves. I live in land that has always been and is still inhabited by wolves. It's not so much that they've "learned" humans are dangerous, but that we've exterminated wolves that approach human communities leaving only those genetically predisposed to avoiding us.
As recently as the 1880s a group of wolves killed 22 children here. Since then there have been no fatalities and when wolves get courageous enough to enter human settlements, they're dealt with.
What if a fast power boat of some kind hit and killed a very young orca in their pod and it’s some kind of revenge against boats? Since a sailboat would be the only one they could attack. Like power boats hitting manatees in Florida. 🤔🤷🏼♂️
This is the benefit of genocide of entire races and species, and helping peaceful animals. This is why we do it even in the modern age like hitler where it is no longer relevant. We shape the evolutionary behaviour of other species through visual inspection of genetic similarities for our own survival. If a wolf bites you, call upon your entire community to go to war with the wolves, and genocide all of them, suffering huge casualties yourself. Instead of trying to run away, let any small conflicts erupt into full blown war of genocide, come back with an army and face the fear and exterminate the enemies. In time there are no more wolves and only sheeps. When a herd of cows get attacked by a few lions they just run away. When a herd of buffalos get attacked by a few lions they attack back.
its simply false that wolves don't hunt humans
There are actually large numbers of humans killed by wolves. mostly in developing countries.
I do wonder about those orca boat attacks. Is it revenge, or boredom, or curiosity, or some kind of predatory behavior like they might use on whales? We tend to be biased toward thinking about species as intelligent mostly if they act like us, but other species' motives are often inscrutable to us. Their cultures and languages unintelligible.
its not genocide it s yet called survival of the fittest @@BobBob-lz3yb
Wolves - strangely enough, Eurasian or European wolves have numerous accounts of attacks on humans, while North American wolves have few accounts of attacks on humans.
As for the leopard seals, they Don't hunt us and do interact with divers, their curiosity can be "overwhelming", or so was told. Made 2 south trips on USCG breakers back in 80s
It is not strange about the North American vs Eurasian wolves, in our developed countries like US and Canada we require proof of such things thus no non rabid attacks, on the other hand Ivan after half a bottle of vodka says he was "attacked" by wolves in Siberia it is written down as "fact" just like it was a century ago in North America when drunken Fred said he was attacked by a wolf in Maine.
North American wolves are probably scared of us and frightened of out guns. However, they do attack in more isolated areas of the continent where they have little to no contact with humans.
I live in Slovakia (central-eastern Europe) and I never heard of Wolf attack human...like at all!
Read about Wolves of Ashta
They were a group of indian wolf responsible for killing and eating 17 humans.
WRONG.. There was an article in the news not to long ago where a scientist was diving in the Arctic waters and was attacked and killed by a Leopard Seal.
I have always thought it was that predators expect fear in eyes of their prey. A leopard meets an antelope and senses the antelope knows it will be killed. If a leopard meets a human it can somehow sense that the human is thinking - "That's just what I need. A leopard skin coat!".
3:15. That's Dr Ingrid Visser in NZ. probably one of the most world renown scientists on the planet regarding Orca. She's named practically every Orca in these islands and of course they all know her quite well. Her work regarding these unprecedented creatures has taught the rest of us a LOT about their natural behavior.
she's not an expert at all! she is an activist
@@Johnny69xxx I half way agree. She has had research published about Orcas, but said published research is outside of her "cause". She's against "captivity" but supports sea pens...which is captivity. She's a shining example of what happens when a scientist puts their personal beliefs ahead of science. It's like a mathematician that's also a creationist. That mindset, to include her ignorance, killed a young orca named Bob. She is also a massive hypocrite as she profits off of partnering with a Norwegian snorkeling company that charges people to swim and pet wild Orcas. Which is reckless and dangerous to both humans and Orcas. Any claim from her should be taken with a mountain of salt, because she routinely appears on documentaries (after collecting her appearance fee, yes activists, she does charge one) and makes unfounded claims based on photographs. She's not a total fraud, but a fraud none the less.
@@Johnny69xxx yes she’s an activist and a expert. Just because she’s one doesn’t mean she can’t be the other one too. She has been studying orcas for over 30 years so idk how you come to the conclusion that she isn’t an expert. Everybody should be fighting against the cruelty we do to these incredible animals.
@@frodoalwayshigh5911 if you are an activist you are not objective
@@Johnny69xxx or her decades of study make her a prime candidate to speak in that activist space because you have the evidence base.
4:26 "Orcas seem very fascinated with humans, and often spend a long time trying to figure us out"
Seems the feeling is mutual, our fellow, highly Intelligent mammals 😅
The orca was the only 1 I could think of. Never imagined a leopard seal to be on the list and the wolf was somewhat surprising as well. Awesome vid though mate
I actually always kinda got wolves though it's more an old inscint that makes us fear and caution wolves...since well they are basically one of humanities biggest rivals in the early days.
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I already guessed wolves before I clicked on the video, but I never would have guessed leopard seals (mainly because I don't know enough about them)
This just made me remember how big and pants-shittingly terrifying leopard seals are
I remember this incident where I lady was swimming just offshore and small group of orcas showed and was trailing behind.
The interesting thing about it was, theyre behavior looked similar to ordinary dolphins being curious. Though some did seemed to give a slight nibble on her foot, that was really the only "hostile" behavior.
I imagine its mostly a combination of rarity(most wild animals probably meet a human once or twice at most), intelligence recognition, uncanniness, and the fact that we are relatively little food for most of these creatures. For wolves, something walking on two legs is probably pretty alien and frightening. I would equate it to meeting a strange dog in the wilderness, but it walks on two legs with a steady stride toward you, rather than fleeing. What would you do?
Awww, I would keep it as a pet.
Wolves used to hunt humans. My guess is it was more something learned socially over the years. Any wolves that ended up killing humans would get wiped out in mass in retaliation.
@@jamesfoss1627 Humans used to hunt wolves
@@greenwave819 yeah
charcoal pine resin with a green blossom before switching to Halberd (in case of command grab).
The leopard seal one is shocking to me. I am morbidly terrified of leopard seals for some reason, so knowing that they're actually just sea doggos like the other seals in the world just doesn't mesh well with my fear.
I think my morbid fear comes from the fact that they have a lot of shark-like qualities to them while also having orca-like intelligence.
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a penguin posting a comment on TH-cam before! :)
Don't get me wrong. They're absolutely terrifying and could kill us in a second. But, overall, they've been shown to be mostly curious as said in this video. If you want to be amazed, look up the photos from Nat Geo of the Leopard Seal bringing that guy penguins. It's insane.
One picture of them hunting taken through the ice is what made me terrified of them. Its probably there on utube ,definitely check that out
The fact that really amazes me is that it can reach lenghts up to 4 meters, mostly people don't have idea how big these animals can get.
Yeh I agree leopard seals are the animal that scare me more than any other..they are like real life monsters
I find it quite adorable how menacing predators like orcas and leopard seals are just as fascinated with us as we are with them. While we are quite pathetic with how easy it is to kill us, these animals usually don’t feel the need to hurt us. Instead, they feel the need to figure out what we’re doing. While they do attack sometimes, I don’t see it as a reason to hate them. They’re animals, they are curious and sometimes that leads them to attack. They don’t have the same impulse control that most of us do.
There is an extremely small chance of an Orca attacking you, I wouldn't feel quite so comfortable around leopard seals.
Additionally large herbivores are generally far scarier than most predatory species. Predators are smart enough to evaluate prey and do some basic risk/reward calculations so when they see a human they try and do the math to see if the meat on our bones is worth the risk of us breaking their bones.
Large herbivores on the other hand mainly defend themselves through shear bulk, and often have small brains since they just need to eacape and either running away or charging a predator are both valid options. (They also regularly fight eachother during mating season) And this is why the deadliest thing in Africa is the Hippo and not any of the predators most people are scared of. Even amoung domestic animals Horses and Cows are very capable of killing you, and while i don't have the statistics i expect they make up most of the serious injuries from domesticated animals, even more than "agressive" dogs. (Dog aggression is 99.9% how they are raised/trained/treated)
Classical pranks are a must be sometimes
Wdym pathetic? If you're an athletic human being I don't think we are that easy to kill even in the wild lol. Our intelligence will give us an edge in every battle that's why we are the most successful species ever on this planet. Don't underestimate your body. Also our stamina is next to unbeatable in the wild just like wolves', we can jog and hunt animals for so long.
It’s not pathetic just hit the gym you could easily fight off a wolf
Is it me but my thought is that if orcas did hunt humans in the wild, then they’re so fast, smart and powerful that no one would ever know, the pod could take out a group of fishermen in a small to medium boat or group of divers within a fraction of a second and leave nobody to tell the tail.
I imagine they would be the single most dangerous advisory in the oceans if they decided to turn on people. With competition heating up for fish, this may become a real problem in the future. Similar to how Elephants in India become more violent around people due to habitat loss and lack of food. While I cannot see Orcas killing people for food, I bet Orcas who specifically rely on fish will become territorial towards people if their food finally becomes short in supply
They definitely won't tell the tail 🥁
OR..... They are so smart they know that if they get cought eating humans.... Humans will be taking revenge!!! 😉...
🤷♂️Who knows..., I personally thought dogs and cats were the smartest animals (because they are well treated)....... But (back than) I didn't knew dogs and cats get eaten in other (barbarian) cultures... So🤷♂️🤔?...
In short the answer (most likely) is that you can't say for sure what others (or other species) think.
For instance : you could think that I think other cultures are barbarian...
And you would be right.... That is if... (and ONLY IF!!!) you consider my thoughts on western "culture"..., and let's say that: I don't hold it, me, him, them, us, umcle, father, grandad nor possible you in high regard if intelligence is a factor wich I have to grade on😉.... Lol.
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Heard a story of some whalers not long ago was documentary on bbc 8 years ago or something they boat got overturned by orcas think they survived but a can’t remember much of the story just orcas sunk the boat was since the tribe
I always assumed that is because these predators are fairly intelligent and know that killing individual humans may be easy, but in the long run being a threat to humans isn't a viable survival strategy. Killing one unarmed human often results in many more, much better armed humans seeking revenge. I figured that this is the kind of stuff that their instincts tell sufficiently intelligent animals, as, after all, humans have been around for quite some time now as well and it makes only sense that other species have developed a rough understanding of what humans are and what they do. 🤔
Absolutely!!! :)
My exact thoughts as well
Orcas are known to be vindictive, as well as blue whales for example. There are recorded instances of blue whales intentionally trying to capsize whalers in the 1800's for example, after they attacked their calf. Orcas have been showing to do the same, so there is some merit in this.
But that requires the individuals make decisions based on the whole species. An orca killing a human would be long gone before others could do anything about it
Instinct and curiosity might explain why leopard seals don't attack us--I'm a predator, and I don't try to kill everything I see, especially if it's new and interesting and I've never seen anything like it (and I don't know if it's good to eat or not!)--but Orcas know exactly what we are: both dangerous and not to be f**ked with, and fellow "Intelligent beings" (though that's a stretch when it comes to humans) who are more interesting as marvels than as food. We make boats and SCUBA gear ands even swim fins and such. To an intelligent non-manipulator, that must be fascinating. They know what we are, and that we are NOT food.
Finally ! A video who talks positively about leopard seals ! They’re one of my favourite animals. I’m so happy they’re on your list. I was happy to see orcas and wolf on the same videl. It reminds me of the orca’s nickname : Wolves of the Sea.
leopard seals are incestuous rap!st who need to be taken out of God's Animal kingdom... Just kidding lol! they cool animals they're like some type of sea puppies.
It's very rare but there have been cases of wild wolves killing people.
The fact that pretty much all big marine mammals rarely if ever (I've never heard of it ever happening) eat people is pretty incredible though. Even the rare occasions when they do hurt or kill someone it's almost always an accident. Think how terrifying it would be if they did intentionally hunt us down!
We are talking about recorded attacks. I’m sure there are plenty of unrecorded attacks, or people “going missing” at sea or in the woods and never seen again. People tend to forget that nature is not your friend. Hell, even people predate on each other.
Considering they have echolocation they might be able to "hear" cameras and avoid getting caught.
@@shin-ishikiri-no that’s not how that works and they would never be able to recognize a camera or what purpose the camera serves for the humans. Not that it even matters, because most recorded deaths are from SAR teams finding remains or straight up just reporting them dead if they can’t find anything. Cameras rarely find or catch animal attacks, let alone in the ocean of all places.
To be fair, any animal eating humans in the ocean would be, at best, a scavenger. We aren't exactly known for living in the sea for extended periods of time.
Great white sharks could be put in this category, since while they have attacked humans on occasion, mostly out of curiosity or mistaken identity, they don't hunt humans for food.
Most sharks could definitely be put into that category
They don't *typically* hunt humans... They do on occasion, though.
@@OctopusWithNoFriends Yes, but that is even less common than wolves doing it.
This video is exclusive to ‘APEX Predators’ of specific areas while GWS is not apex predator in any area so the owner didn’t add it.
@@sussybeam55 By that logic, the leopard seal isn't an apex predator either.
The really neat thing is that, at least one time, wild orcas have spontaneously formed hunting partnerships with humans, much the same as the mutual fishing partnerships formed between some pods of wild river dolphins and net-using humans, where the dolphins started to drive fish into the nets, basically using the nets to trap the fish against, and thereby increasing the humans' catch as well as their own. It's a very effective hunting strategy for both sides, and both sides have gotten very good at cooperating with each other, with the humans waiting for their signal to start hauling their nets in.
Around a hundred or so years ago, back when the whaling stations in Antarctica were still active, there was a similar relationship forged between the whalers at one particular station and a pod of wild orcas, who helped to drive whales to them, and then took a share of the spoils.
I don't remember the details, unfortunately, but while so far as I know the dolphins and fishermen are still working together, the orca/human relationship ended when, iirc, some asshole newcomer killed the lead orca.
In Australia - Killers in Eden en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_whales_of_Eden,_New_South_Wales
@@awf6554 Good man
I know in atleast 1 of the dolfin-fishermen relationships the dolphins are actually caught in the nets with the fish but they don't panic and always are released and given their share of the spoils.
Probably the most impressive part of this partnership is that unlike dogs & beasts of burder these dolphins are fully wild and not domesticated (a genetic process) or even tamed (capture a wild animal and train/condition it). This means the dolphins are humans are both smart enough to forge an interspecies alliance without the use of words, truly impressive intelligence and arguably sentience.
@@jasonreed7522 "Arguably?" Dolphins have been proven to be sentient, if I remember the studies correctly. The only link missing to fully confirm it is finding a way to fully translate their language. I know for certain that we've proven that it's a true _language_ and not just a series of noises that only truly translate to things like "help," "hey guys I found food" and "hey guys run."
@@CoralCopperHead There was a dolphin that got his conversation recorded with another dolphin, then when scientists used the recorded sounds of the other one to trick it, it instantly knew and got mad
Another theory is we are a relatively "boney" species. Other predators didn't evolve to view us as prey for a number of reasons that essentially boil down to: "Not being worth the effort."
Well yeah. We’re just so different to everything else, that it invites unnecessary risk. Think about what we look like from an orca’s or a wolf’s perspective. We move and breathe and make sounds like everything else. We have families and communicate like they do. But why are we holding odd objects? Why are we covered in strange material? Where do we come from before we leave our strange, loud, indestructible boxes? We’re unbelievably dangerous, but also fragile. We’re cruel and kill for no reason, but also can show great kindness and curiosity like they do. We’d be uncanny because we’re obviously living animals with much in common, but also are strange in ways that absolutely nothing else is. I’d be terrified, yet curious too
In the same way we would look at benevolent, yet selfish aliens
perfect tsuki. keep the lists but such as this video, diversity is greatly appreciated. cheers!
What I always found interesting is that crocodiles will hunt humans as prey, whereas alligators generally won't, even though alligators do hunt prey larger than humans. It's hard to explain why an alligator wouldn't hunt us, when every reason I can think of seems like it should also apply to crocodiles, or vice versa.
Alligators are generally significantly smaller (not only in length, but in muscle mass and weight) than crocodiles and, are therefore, much more timid in nature. While they are able to take on large prey, they're less likely to than crocodiles, because it's more of a risk to them. Basically, humans seem like a bigger risk to alligators than to crocodiles, who view us as an easy meal.
Alligators are afraid of humans after having too many run ins with Florida Man
Probably because alligators live in more developed countries where it is easier for them to get killed. In the middle of dirt-poor Africa, Crocodiles can rampage without much to fear
Florida man spooked the alligators that's why.
I think alligators usually hunt stuff smaller than adult humans.
It's crazy how you don't have over 10 million subscribers. Good work
Thank you that means a lot and i appreciate it :)
Regarding killer whales, "Thankfully they don't [eat us] because we don't stand a chance..."
More like they wouldn't stand a chance. I think they instinctively know we're not the animal to piss off or threaten.
Since food consumption is so difficult for humans to achieve while in the water, perhaps part of orca and leopard seal curiosity with us is that they've never seen us eat; though they possibly have seen us hunt or capture their own kind.
“Game recognize game.” -Riley Freeman
I think in some cases it’s a matter of respect…. in others, they are smart, pass along information to their descendants, and know better than to F with the creatures that can end their whole blood line/species…..
(As to the leopard seal, considering the way they generally treat us, the one that drug the girl down too deep may have been trying to show her something, not knowing she wouldn’t be able to hold her breath long enough or be able to go that deep. The animal may have been treating her like a juvenile seal and not attacking her. Until we learn to communicate with them [we’re the ones with the opposable thumbs and the computers in our pockets] than we will never know)….
Hey Tsuki, I really like this more in depth video and you did an amazing job as usual
Orcas used to hunt humans until a particularly vicious pack ran right into Chuck Norris. In exchange for sparing the species, they are holding up their end of the bargain.
It's a predatory brotherhood...They recognize us as apex predators, and just as some wolves became dogs, orcas and leopard seals would probably have done the same if they lived in land.
Maybe.
That doesn't explain why so many apex predators do attack us then
@@tomlxyz To be fair, we're not the only apex predator that's attacked or preyed upon.
@@tomlxyz Some might be too stupid to regognize this and simply attack everything.
I've spent considerable time wondering about this as well. Occurs to me that predators that do hunt humans tend to disappear rather suddenly. That does not explain why orcas don't hunt people. Anyone aware of humans reaction to being targeted understands it would be a bad idea. But how do they know? Or do they know?
Orcas are careless animals that often end up in the sea shore without a way to go back while hunting.
That is when humans come to the rescue. This happening over the years makes orcas see humans as "friends" who have saved some of their lives.
Orcas are intelligent enough to pass down information verbally to their offspring. So if a human helps an orca, an orca might go back to its family group to spread the good word. They talk so much because body language isn't a very effective tone indicator for them, so yeah. Either they find us friendly, or they are aware of what we are capable of doing
In general animals that do actively hunt humans get hunted to extinction by us instead... like the lions that used to live in Europe. The only animals I can think of that hunt humans and do not get hunted to extinction by us without any protective measurements (like lions and tigers for example, they are actively protected by us) are Nile crocodiles and saltwater crocodiles. Makes me feel like in many cases it's not about animals knowing not to mess with us but instead almost all animals that did mess with us are just no longer here, and all we have left are those that don't.
Orcas are the most intelligent and largest of the dolphin species.
@Pilot JollyRoger yes, they talk and are aware of us. Like almost all animals treat us differently. Haven’t you see all these videos of divers removing hooks from sharks, dolphins and whatever else? Animals know about us. Did you hear what the signing gorilla had to say about us?
Orcas aren't the only whale that mourn their dead. When I lived in the Canary Islands back in the 90s I sold boat trip tickets to go out sailing with the dolphins & whales.
Anyway, I went out on the boat one day, and there was a group of pilot whales doing something on the surface of the water, and as we got there I could see a baby whale that seemed lifeless. The adult whales were circling the baby in the middle of this circle while one of the adults gently grabbed the baby and would pull it under the water and then dive back up to the surface, and I could just understand that it was trying to revive the baby but after a while it was obvious the baby wasn't going to be revived, and the adult whales just carried on circling the baby for some time.
That circling just had the vibe to me that this had turned into a funeral, and it was so sad to see so the captain of the boat decided to respect the whales and sail to a different spot 😢
I’m surprised alligators weren’t on this list, despite the rare attacks, they do not actively hunt people
We’re too big for most alligators. Crocodiles aggressively eat humans because they are so much bigger than gators.
Honestly I think humans are a pretty visually intimidating species, and even if something could kill us, it would still be a pretty difficult thing to do in most situations with little reward.
Intimidating how? no fangs, no claws, no armour, pathetically slow on land or sea. Unless we are armed, we are easy pickings, and sometimes it doesn't matter if we are armed. Those Cape Buffalo down in South Africa don't give a crap about big-game hunters with their large caliber Rigby's. Mountain lions routinely stalk and attack people in British Columbia like it ain't no thang - and they are relatively small predators. Think of all the man-eating lion, tiger incidents over the years in Africa and India? Think of all the shark attacks. Nah man, they aren't intimidated by us in the least.
@@fabricembida8029 Well, humans stand on two legs which makes us look bigger and that is something that animals understand very easily. Many animal species stand up on their back legs as a way to look bigger to intimidate an attacker.
Opposable thumbs are scary
@@fabricembida8029 Humans have killed mountain lions unarmed, even Leopards. While humans are weak for our size we're still great apes and quite dangerous and capable of killing most animals smaller than us.
@@fabricembida8029 many animals stand on their hind legs to appear bigger, so a creature which just always stands on its hind legs would just appear bigger at all times stuff like cape buffalo dont care because they are the prey animal. most prey animals are more aggressive than most apex predators, as they have more to fear.
another thing, most animals are in fact intimidated by humans as we humans have had a tendency to try wiping out the things that scare us. the amount of shark attacks total doesnt even compare to the number of sharks we've killed.
I disagree with the characterization of people as weak. While it's true that we lack some of the things animals have, we are still very physically impressive and dangerous. The mind and body evolved together as a complete package, after all. A human with a pointy stick is a threat to almost any animal.
People seem to forget the one thing that really set us a side from the other animals is our capacity to kill , we are the moat ruthless killer this planet has ever seen we can kill any life form the biggest to the smallest , we can kill with anything from our bear hands to the H-Bomb , things we make inadvertently kill things in an infinite number of ways we kill for , Love , Hate , Honour , Dishonour , Rage , Lust , Sadness , Despair basically any emotion someone somewhere killed someone because of it ... We ow our evolution to it , the scary thing is if there are advanced alien races which have also evolved on planets that have a food chain which they to be the alpha species and they will also have to be the most proficient killers , Star wars shit is probably happening somewhere from things that could delete our solar system in the blink of an eye
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@@djdeemz7651 oh ! How much i would love a " bear hand".
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I actually think pound for pound humans are quite formidable. We may not have obvious built in weapons like large teeth and claws, but we are masters of grappling and physical manipulation thanks to our dexterity and limb strength. Its not out of the question for us to be able to break some bones or choke an attacking predator, which is arguably much more deadly than some surface flesh wounds.
We can also call in an air strike....
Nah, pound for pound we absolutely suck in a straight up fight. Our limb strength is lol compared to apes. A chimpanzee would tear a gym rat human male to piece.
@@Camcolitoour strenght is, that even the dumbest gym rat is much smarter than every animal. By far. We are the mamal with the most birth deaths because our head is so big.
@@Camcolitomost adults could dominate a Cheetah tho... Then again a lot of animals could
@@Camcolito Give us a long stick and some rocks to sharpen the tip and a spear significantly increases our chances of winning. Even if you had no prep time at least a rock may increase the chances a little bit (okay maybe not a rock chimpanzees are a bit tough but you get my point). And tbf we got some unique ways of fighting that a lot of animals can't deal with (eye gouging, wrestling, grabbing onto limbs and maybe breaking them, choking).
One theory I have heard that is that humans don't actually taste bad to predators, but we smell as if we WOULD taste bad. Animals which have eaten humans once are many times more likely to do so again.
I found it cool in an old Nat geo documentary about great white sharks they did a test with the smaller analog sharks (lemon and bonnet head shark from memory) they tested the reaction of different smells in the water. (Human Blood, prey items the sharks would eat etc) They found that the sharks reacted less to human blood and more to their natural food scent. They can only theorise based of that what its like for larger sharks, but it seems they don’t usually associate human blood with food.
They were testing 2 to 3 footers in a plastic tank on a table, weren't they? Sending them "scent" down a tube into their "nostrils."
yes they only charge towards us cause they think we’re seals or fish
This kind of testing has been done with some larger sharks in the open ocean. Never has a shark preferred the human blood, from what I've read and seen. Their bites on humans are usually due to curiosity, accident, an unresistable buff has opened up (like in shipwrecks and plane crashes at sea) or their being unable to hunt their usual prey due to being injured or, in the case of some of the larger great whites possibly, being potentially too slow to hunt their normal prey.
It's funny because orcas will bully other animals that are similarly sized to humans even if they don't plan on eating them, but whenever the see a human swimming, they just watch from a distance.
See that son? If you Attack it and His Friends find Out, we're dead so dont alright?
Human: "Please don't eat me!"
Apex Predator: "Ew! No!"
Human: "Ew? Hey! What, am I not good enough for you? Do I taste bad? WHY WON'T YOU EAT ME?!"
Like a girlfriend who you just broke up with
to be fair, we don't eat wolf very often either
Given how widespread Wolves and humans are, social creatures and with similar hunting tactics, it’s no wonder why we ended up bonding.
Forgot to mention one of the main reasons why we are so effective is because we can throw objects far better than any other species. In video game terms we have ranged attacks and everyone else has melee. We can "kite" most animals or use our intelligence to set effective traps.
Truth, no other species has the bone structure to throw with enough force to kill. All animals that can even slightly throw, can barely throw something a few feet.
You have missed asiatic lions, they live so close to humans and often roam into villages but there is only one reported attack so far and its also a provoked attack and lion left the body alone.
virgin asiatic lion vs chad asiatic tiger.
@@ikengaspirit3063 An asiatic tiger is just a tiger
Emotional experience to some extent... Bro I've seen magpies going crazy over losing one of their brood so I can only imagine the sorrow a killer whale would feel if it loses its calf.
Magpie and killer whales both are animals that bond for life, quite a few of those out there ironically.
Friend had a female Chinchilla and a male Jerboa who shared a cage because both need a partner and they were rescues and would die without companionship... It was rather hilarious seeing one of the two set each other off and they'd go on zoomie sprees and ricochet off the walls of the cage together. (Well unless it was in the middle of the night)
In regards to the intro, it's maybe worth pointing out that humans actually are pretty physically impressive compared to other animals in at least one regard: We're basically the track and field superstars of the animal kingdom. We're not the fastest by any means, but thanks to our exceptional stamina, if you make the race long enough a decently fit human will leave most other animals in the proverbial dust.
Yeah we're not the largest, strongest or fastest, but we're not the smallest, weakest or slowest either. Being bipedal we appear tall to many other predators and this tradeoff of speed/acceleration for endurance means humans will indeed leave EVERY other animal in the proverbial dust with the exception of the ostrich (also bipedal), but that is debatable depending on the distance covered (e.g. marathon vs ultramarathon).
Besides having by a long way the most advanced brains, toolmaking ability and ability to communicate, humans also have the best throwing mechanism on the planet, making us by far the most adaptable and effective ground hunters on the planet.
Wolves used to hunt people a lot more before the 20th century. The Hunts of Gevaudden are an excellent example.
the unprovoked predatory attacks this video mentioned are always done by starving wolves when there other prey is scarce or wolves that can't hunt there normal prey due to injury,illness or young/old age, healthy wolves never attack people unless they are provoked due to knowing we are dangerous, they treat humans in the same way they treat bears where under normal circumstances they won't hunt us but if they are in a situation where they have a choice between starving the death or trying to hunt a dangerous prey item they normally wouldn't there hunger and desire to survive overrides there desire to avoid which is when predatory wolf attacks occur.
@@CrimsonReapa In the modern era... Guy used a qualifier for a reason. Plus, some things to consider... that we know of, how many missing people have been killed by wolves we don't know of, because they are never found? AND, there are not very many wolves left in the world. We nearly wiped them out, and for good reason. They have historically been a true menace to humans.
@@nicodemous52 maybe you shouldn’t put food in front of a wolf take away it’s main food source and expect it to not eat your sheep and idk eat some grass or something
@@shadowbonbon3 Maybe you need to read a little more. Also, are we not also animals native to this planet and are we not also a product of evolution? You act like we are an invading alien species.
@@nicodemous52 we are native to the planet not the the us there’s a difference
The fact Orcas dont target us but will target as something as massive as whales is strange
Same reason hunters shoot turkeys but not sparrows
We eat cows. We rarely eat badgers nor foxes.
@@SD-wj9bv maybe because they know what people did to actual whales during the 1700s to 1900s they pass down stories of it and fear humans because before whaling there was over 1 million sperm whales then after there is only around 300,000
Humans used to work together with Orcas to hunt whales. Maybe the Orcas know we are valuable allies haha. If their language is as sophisticated as thought, they might be able to pass down information down generations and so modern day Orcas know that we are dangerous but also good allies.
@@mecha-sheep7674 we used to eat whatever before agriculture
Don't know about the wolves part. Years ago there was an incident involving 2 wolves killing 22 children, with them being partially eaten
yah its very rare still
What? Do you have a link to that? Whey were 22 children left to get killed by wolves? Where were the kids????
@@jase123111 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolves_of_Turku
Years ago? This incident was 142 years ago. This is ancient news by now. 1880. Those animals were also hunted down further culling that braindead part of the animal from the rest of the species. Also if you look at documented cases of attacks on wolves, it gets substantially less and less through the years of development of human civilization further removing them from even being a threat. The last documented death from a wolf in North America is 12 years ago.
"Berner, a teacher and avid jogger, was discovered dead along a road by snowmobilers, who found wolf tracks in the adjacent snow. The Alaska State Medical Examiner ruled that her death was caused by "multiple injuries due to animal mauling." A series of necropsies performed on wolves culled in the surrounding area shortly after the attack ruled out rabies, sickness, or wolf-dog hybridisation as being causes of the attack. The verified case was notable as being the first recorded fatal wolf attack in Alaska in which DNA evidence was gathered to confirm wolf involvement."
Always, ALWAYS do humans remove the general population of rabid/biting/aggressive animals after such attacks. Wolves are dangerous but a non-threat to human survival in 2022. 1880? Different story, different time, more biodiversity, more dangerous animals.
@@gianlucasevastamula8630 Greetings from Finland. It was indeed quite different time back then here. I could talk about this in lengths but lets say that humans had practically eradicated the normal food sources of wolves from the area when trying to survive famines. Which is not a case now.
Not a single person has been killed by wolves in Finland since then.
Those times were also very grim period in our history, being under the Russian oppression.
Just like us, somewhere in the leopard seal world, a young curious seal is listening to another seal talk about how fascinating humans are, and how we don't hunt them, but are just curious most times😊
With the leopard seals I think our bipedalism might make us interesting to them. In just the clips the seal will move with its body horizontally but when it focuses on something it'll transition to a vertical "standing" position sorta like a diver will when they swim. I think we're different enough to other non leopard seals but close enough to them to have them interested and provoke an "empathetic" reaction out of them.
And not to be disrespect to the researcher who a leopard seal killed but I think her death might have been accidental on the seals part instead of predation. In the video it's mentioned they were snorkeling which doesn't have an air supply and she was dragged down into the water. Since as far as I know leopard seals don't drown their prey and they recovered her body it seems like it might have been a seal trying to play or "teach" the researcher to dive as the seals are know to give penguins to "teach" humans to hunt.
Yeah I agree with your assessment of the researcher's death - if the seal did actually want her dead I can't see it wasting perfectly good meat in as barren a landscape as Antarctica even if there's more food underwater. It probably swam away from her drowning body thinking the seal equivalent of "Oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit!".