I’ve always thought you sound country AF but when you listen to what you’re talking about you’re a pretty intelligent and mechanically inclined guy. Thanks for that content.
Good info, when I go out on the road from my field there is a big hill, so I always start in 9th, never had a problem. Someone at New Holland knew what they were doing.
Thanks for sharing this. It’s a real time saver - would have taken a long time to figure this out thru trial and error. Makes sense to have overlapping gears between ranges. Also makes me wonder why every OEM doesn’t do this.
9th gear gives enough low take off gear on road transport without bog down with pulling a load. And 8th gear gives you plenty enough field transport speed before it throws you out of your seat. I have cut a pretty decent smooth field in 8th gear where I had to also keep rpms up to do a clean cut and at times I had to drop down to 7th to have better control when bouncing gets a little to rough. I have a 2018 T6.180 6cyl. with 16x16 Electro Command also and they seem to be the same, and I don't particularly like trying to push that lever up to high range when I'm trying to get out of the way of traffic that might be coming up on me around a blind curve out of a field, that's when it makes sense to take off in the 9th gear in the high range and then I can toggle or run auto shift all the way up to 16th gear without any sweat of bog down.
it's so you can keep good gears no matter what range your in like I buckrake in M4 on a 24 speed 6640 but if I hit a big lump I can drop it in to M2 easily and still keep going but I've have to stop I had to change range
Good video I personally got a TN75. There actually is a diagram on the inside of my right fender wich shows exactly what you are explaining in this video.
Not read all the comments. You are correct , it gives you a low gear to start off in that range. The reason for this is the 1-4 gears are synchronized, and the range gears l-m-h are not, so if starting off with a heavy load in 4 gear medium range, it would be difficult to shift up the range to high due to no synchro. So having a lower 1st gear you can start in high range, and work your way 1-2-3-4 that are synchronised.and don't have to touch the range gears.
Deere had this on the 4430 quad range it was designed this way to prevent clutch slippage when pulling heavy loads and needing to upshift to get to faster speeds
+George Doorley. Yeah, we have a John Deere 7610 and if your pulling a heavy load you have to start off in a lower range then shift ranges while moving, it's kind of annoying.
I operate a T5.115 at my workplace. One thing I don't like is the steering wheel/display tilt has a small pedal between the clutch and the brake pedals.
Yep, our TS100 is the same setup with the dual command... probably one of the reasons why I like to use it a lot due to the shifting for mowing and raking. We just got a TS6.130 with a 16x8... sadly, it isn't as nice as the 24x24 :( Massey has a similar gearing design with the Dyna-4s and 6s, especially with Ranges 2 and 3; the higher gears in range 2 somewhat match the lower gears in range 3 for better field operation. You can thank Jeff Reymond for me discovering your channel. I'll definitely be checking out your other vids.
+Farming 4 Generations. Well I'll be sure to thank Jeff! I haven't heard of a 16X8. Did you mean the 16x16 electro command? My T4 had the 24x24 and I liked all the different speeds it offers but I prefer the power shifting of the electro command. I hope you enjoy my videos I'm fairly new at it so I'm not the best actor/editor yet but I'm trying. I'm going to check your channel out too!
Nope, it is a 16x8. New Holland calls it a "Dual Power." It's very similar to the dual and electro command options, but just a cheaper version. The HI/LO function works with the forward speeds and not the reverse, hence why it's called 16x8. Also, the tractor can shift gears 1 through 4 on the fly (just like a dual command), but changing from range I or II requires to be fully stopped, which sucks, but it is what it is at a lower cost. I think it's just offered on the TS6 tractors, or perhaps on a high end T5 or a low end T6. Here's a link to the transmission options: agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/en-us/equipment/products/tractors-telehandlers/ts6-series/features/transmission
+Farming 4 Generations. Oh ok I've never even heard of that! You learn something new everyday! I could see why you wouldn't like it as good as the dual command. Thanks for the info.
I got a little TC35 and finding the gear for moving around the yard quickly Is kinda a pain. Field stuff is pretty decent but I suspect your theory about gearing is true.
Fiat build this transmissions from the 70's. It was designed for the Fiat 80 series. Later on they used it for the 90 and 94 series. Basically the TN TL and the older 35 series are old fiatagri 90 series tractors. With a new blue coat. 😉
My Fiat/Fiatagri 80-90 DT from 1986 works the same way. 4th gear in "medium range" is higher than 1st gear in "high range". Wery usefull when you pull away with a heavy load. And I have a 12+12 gearbox which means that I have 12 forward and 12 reverse gears. Greetings from Sweden :-)
On my dyna-4 Massey 5713SL i'm forced to work slower than i could sometimes unless i want to change ranges every other minute. Wouldn't have to if ranges overlapped a little and i just could stay in the higher range and only cycle between 4 powershifts. Then again, not overlapping is superior in transport. I guess the most important is to be aware of these differences and to know what you want before you buy a tractor. None of the tractors is perfect for everything.
I suppose this works on 17x17 electrocommand. Because on low group or what i would say in english has 8 gears. So would it not work the Sam as the 16x16 electrocommand. I can maybe try it on the ts135a tomorrow tho.
Make sure it's full of fluid, make sure your filter is not sucking air, maybe you forgot to put the oring seal on. It should bleed it's self after in minute or so of running.
I have a New Holland TL 100A tractor. My problem is----the tractor always starts off with a JERK. (and I don't mean the driver!!!!) It has the gears and range that you show, plus a clutch, plus a forward and reverse lever on the left of the steering wheel. I got the tractor used, and don't think this jerk-starting is normal. Could it be the type fluid I am using?? Is there another problem I don't know about?
I just sold a 2010 Claas Arion 510 because i bought it for repair and sell, had accident with radiator so full engine rebuild, it was the best tractor i have ever driven, leave the New Holland for dead, the reason i came here is because my next project when i buy it is a newish New Holland with FEL which broke in half, the tractor is sitting in a yard with the engine on the ground with the back half and everything else in front of the engine in pieces, I have not yet found out why.
Claas entered the tractor market here in Australia not long ago in a big way so dealers are few and far between, they compete with John Deere, Fendt, everyone here owns a John Deere, NH are popular as well as a pile of other makes, there are farmers here who changed solely to Claas tractors and headers.
i looked at a farmer i know who has a New Holland yesterday, latish model, gearbox looks similar to Claas, electronic switches similar, FEL loader frame looks very similar, NH look like a good tractor, all tractor makers are going in the same direction with mechanicals.
I’ve always thought you sound country AF but when you listen to what you’re talking about you’re a pretty intelligent and mechanically inclined guy. Thanks for that content.
This is a very informative video. Great video!!!!
+michel daniels. Thanks!
Great video, very informative! Your theory makes sense.
Good info, when I go out on the road from my field there is a big hill, so I always start in 9th, never had a problem. Someone at New Holland knew what they were doing.
Thanks for sharing this. It’s a real time saver - would have taken a long time to figure this out thru trial and error. Makes sense to have overlapping gears between ranges. Also makes me wonder why every OEM doesn’t do this.
power command is just a god sent XD
9th gear gives enough low take off gear on road transport without bog down with pulling a load. And 8th gear gives you plenty enough field transport speed before it throws you out of your seat. I have cut a pretty decent smooth field in 8th gear where I had to also keep rpms up to do a clean cut and at times I had to drop down to 7th to have better control when bouncing gets a little to rough. I have a 2018 T6.180 6cyl. with 16x16 Electro Command also and they seem to be the same, and I don't particularly like trying to push that lever up to high range when I'm trying to get out of the way of traffic that might be coming up on me around a blind curve out of a field, that's when it makes sense to take off in the 9th gear in the high range and then I can toggle or run auto shift all the way up to 16th gear without any sweat of bog down.
Your right about the low gear in C range!
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Quite interesting, good video
+Sean McGeeney. Thanks
it's so you can keep good gears no matter what range your in like I buckrake in M4 on a 24 speed 6640 but if I hit a big lump I can drop it in to M2 easily and still keep going but I've have to stop I had to change range
Moving round bales, you can stay in high range coming and going from field to road and vice versa without lugging.
+Bill Crowder. Right I do it all the time!
Good video
I personally got a TN75.
There actually is a diagram on the inside of my right fender wich shows exactly what you are explaining in this video.
Most people have no clue about the diagram
Not read all the comments. You are correct , it gives you a low gear to start off in that range. The reason for this is the 1-4 gears are synchronized, and the range gears l-m-h are not, so if starting off with a heavy load in 4 gear medium range, it would be difficult to shift up the range to high due to no synchro. So having a lower 1st gear you can start in high range, and work your way 1-2-3-4 that are synchronised.and don't have to touch the range gears.
Deere had this on the 4430 quad range it was designed this way to prevent clutch slippage when pulling heavy loads and needing to upshift to get to faster speeds
Yep
have a tl90 dual command , having 1 st high so low is very handy when pulling off with a 2000 gallon slurry tanker
+George Doorley. Yeah, we have a John Deere 7610 and if your pulling a heavy load you have to start off in a lower range then shift ranges while moving, it's kind of annoying.
I operate a T5.115 at my workplace. One thing I don't like is the steering wheel/display tilt has a small pedal between the clutch and the brake pedals.
You need to have good working gears equally spread out in all three ranges , its not a car its a tractor
This goes right back to the Ford 5000 series 4th Low range slightly faster than 1st High Range. Which was 5th .
Yep, they have been doing it for years.
Yep, our TS100 is the same setup with the dual command... probably one of the reasons why I like to use it a lot due to the shifting for mowing and raking. We just got a TS6.130 with a 16x8... sadly, it isn't as nice as the 24x24 :(
Massey has a similar gearing design with the Dyna-4s and 6s, especially with Ranges 2 and 3; the higher gears in range 2 somewhat match the lower gears in range 3 for better field operation.
You can thank Jeff Reymond for me discovering your channel. I'll definitely be checking out your other vids.
+Farming 4 Generations. Well I'll be sure to thank Jeff! I haven't heard of a 16X8. Did you mean the 16x16 electro command? My T4 had the 24x24 and I liked all the different speeds it offers but I prefer the power shifting of the electro command. I hope you enjoy my videos I'm fairly new at it so I'm not the best actor/editor yet but I'm trying. I'm going to check your channel out too!
Nope, it is a 16x8. New Holland calls it a "Dual Power." It's very similar to the dual and electro command options, but just a cheaper version. The HI/LO function works with the forward speeds and not the reverse, hence why it's called 16x8. Also, the tractor can shift gears 1 through 4 on the fly (just like a dual command), but changing from range I or II requires to be fully stopped, which sucks, but it is what it is at a lower cost.
I think it's just offered on the TS6 tractors, or perhaps on a high end T5 or a low end T6.
Here's a link to the transmission options: agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/en-us/equipment/products/tractors-telehandlers/ts6-series/features/transmission
+Farming 4 Generations. Oh ok I've never even heard of that! You learn something new everyday! I could see why you wouldn't like it as good as the dual command. Thanks for the info.
I got a little TC35 and finding the gear for moving around the yard quickly Is kinda a pain. Field stuff is pretty decent but I suspect your theory about gearing is true.
I have a 2009 T6010 when I put it in 4WD it makes noises, anyone know what could be the issue?
Fiat build this transmissions from the 70's. It was designed for the Fiat 80 series. Later on they used it for the 90 and 94 series. Basically the TN TL and the older 35 series are old fiatagri 90 series tractors. With a new blue coat. 😉
Alex Dutch Dairyfarmer ford was started before fiat so obviously ford built it for new holland
My Fiat/Fiatagri 80-90 DT from 1986 works the same way. 4th gear in "medium range" is higher than 1st gear in "high range". Wery usefull when you pull away with a heavy load. And I have a 12+12 gearbox which means that I have 12 forward and 12 reverse gears.
Greetings from Sweden :-)
+Dance5696. I bet it's the same transmission that's in the New Holland tractors. Greetings from the USA! 👍
Looking for a how to video on replacing the 4w-n-2w shifter arm on a boomer 40
Where can I get my T4.90 Newholland fixed. It's in DEF computer shut down.
I see a 7710 in your shop. Care to give a video and review on that oldie but goodie?
Brandon Davis. Here you go this is a video I don't let everyone see. Hope you enjoy! th-cam.com/video/goituDSw0Co/w-d-xo.html
On my dyna-4 Massey 5713SL i'm forced to work slower than i could sometimes unless i want to change ranges every other minute. Wouldn't have to if ranges overlapped a little and i just could stay in the higher range and only cycle between 4 powershifts. Then again, not overlapping is superior in transport. I guess the most important is to be aware of these differences and to know what you want before you buy a tractor. None of the tractors is perfect for everything.
+matains88. Your last statement is very true, none of them are perfect!
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I suppose this works on 17x17 electrocommand. Because on low group or what i would say in english has 8 gears. So would it not work the Sam as the 16x16 electrocommand. I can maybe try it on the ts135a tomorrow tho.
Yes I think it works the same
yeah, every tractor, or vehicle in general for that matter tyhat has multiple ranges are going to work out this way...
looking get answer why my New Holland T1510 wont move forward after getting warmed up and or move forward with load
Could be a lot of different things
Amigos me puede decir el manejo correcto de un tractor new Holland m 135 power shift
Mein Traktor arbeitet nicht Geschwindigkeit (A) habe keine Ahnung. können Sie mir helfen
any advice for my FNH 1997 7740 SLE,? - It is stuck in forward. the shuttle wont go back into neutral.
Sounds like the shifting fork in the transmission is broken or damaged.
The fergy 47 is mixed up also
Yes it is
RR's do that . Options.
Hello.I changed the hydraulic filters to the new holland td5.115 tractor and now it does not work anymore.It works first.Do you have any idea why?
Air in the system
@@DLHFarms Tell me how to vent.What at New Holland does not know what to do solve the problem
Make sure it's full of fluid, make sure your filter is not sucking air, maybe you forgot to put the oring seal on. It should bleed it's self after in minute or so of running.
I have a New Holland TL 100A tractor. My problem is----the tractor always starts off with a JERK. (and I don't mean the driver!!!!) It has the gears and range that you show, plus a clutch, plus a forward and reverse lever on the left of the steering wheel. I got the tractor used, and don't think this jerk-starting is normal. Could it be the type fluid I am using?? Is there another problem I don't know about?
Needs a calibration
I just sold a 2010 Claas Arion 510 because i bought it for repair and sell, had accident with radiator so full engine rebuild, it was the best tractor i have ever driven, leave the New Holland for dead, the reason i came here is because my next project when i buy it is a newish New Holland with FEL which broke in half, the tractor is sitting in a yard with the engine on the ground with the back half and everything else in front of the engine in pieces, I have not yet found out why.
I can't afford those fancy tractors and there's not any dealers for them for hundreds of miles from here
Claas entered the tractor market here in Australia not long ago in a big way so dealers are few and far between, they compete with John Deere, Fendt, everyone here owns a John Deere, NH are popular as well as a pile of other makes, there are farmers here who changed solely to Claas tractors and headers.
I'd love to have a Fendt but can't afford one of those either.
i looked at a farmer i know who has a New Holland yesterday, latish model, gearbox looks similar to Claas, electronic switches similar, FEL loader frame looks very similar, NH look like a good tractor, all tractor makers are going in the same direction with mechanicals.
I like mine pretty good bee. Using NH for years.
Which models are available with terralock functions??
T4 and up
@@DLHFarms and terralock functions are available with syncho shuttle or electro command and up
T4 don't have electro command but you can still get Terralock.
@@DLHFarms thanks a lot you help me a lot!!
Tm 120 range command Ford newholland four wheel drive not working ,what could be the problem
4wd solenoid
@@DLHFarms thanks I will check that out
Are you still a NH man, or are you switching to Massey??
I like NH but if I buy anything new it will probably be a MF.
@@DLHFarms I just compared 75hp tractors and NH has a killer incentive. Thinking about going that way. The MF was priced 20% higher.
Oh wow that's a big difference. Might as well go with the NH
a thief would have to go to school to steal that thing
+FixinThatUp. Lmao!
Best anti theft device in America is a clutch.
Haha
error code f41 tm165 tractor?
It may be in the book if not you will have to ask a dealer
@@DLHFarms Can you send this book in pdf
I don’t have a book for your tractor. You should have the book I’m referring too it the operators manual.
Shut that thing off!! Can't hear you!