I believe that this battery is aimed for the RV industry - Small footprint (removable handle) and waterproofing designed to be installed outside for easier compliance with the new battery regulations from November (last year - Lithium cannot be installed in habitable area and must be vented to outdoor space) Too bad the waterproofing didn't hold up. I wonder if this was also from the transport damage? I guess we'll never know unless Gobel send you another sample to test again!
A dog is a friend, who is with you no matter what happens. A dog is always true. Although a dog is not a human and should not be treated like a human, he is a family member. I hope you get a new family member soon. About the test: You are very strict, nothing wrong with that. The inner design is very clean, other manufacturers don't waste time and money on the inner parts, as almost nobody will get to see it. I guess, there is a reason, why the box is made from aluminium: Plastic is expensive, if it has to be physical, chemical and UV resistant. If it has to be good looking as well, the molds get very expensive. Metall is far easier to handle, you can bend it without shrinking, you can weld it, you can paint it. Ideal for a small production. IP protection: The inner seams should be sealed. Looks like they used a buthyl rubber (don't know the english term, in german it's Buthylkautschuk..), that's really superior stuff, i worked a lot with it and would not use anything else. The bracket is to weak, no question. There should be foam, to prevent the battery from moving side to side.
Seems crazy that you buy cells that are delivered in foam packaging but you buy a battery in a cheap tin can where you can't see if parts have broken loose without destruction of the case. For me that's too many uninsulated connections and unprotected cables aside from the battery block supported by plastic lugs and flimsy spot welded brackets. I give one frog for matching spec but lose four for hopeless design.
Hi Andy, I just received my 12V 280AH Gobel battery last week. Same damage as yours only mine had a few more plastic pieces off the top where the balance wires run. Same pushed in bracket, scratch and shallow dent on side of #4 cell almost identical to yours. I did not remove my damaged bracket. I reassembled with 1/8 inch thick high density rubber matting (~$30 worth ) on bottom and all four sides and a couple strips on top as well to keep the pack from shifting. I wish Gobel would have done the same as I think it would have kept damage due to shipping from happening. My cells are matched in voltage but I have not has a chance to charge fully and discharge fully to see how the battery and cells react. Hopefully the battery is OK. My cost for the Basic model was $540 total including shipping to USA. I ordered Feb 26 and it got to my home April 22. My use is marine on my 35 foot sailboat. Gobel should consider selling it as a kit with 1/8 inch rubber matting to line the interior and shipping the case and battery cells separate. I know $$$ cost of shipping but if those cells came all nice and packed in foam and the metal case and BMS in a separate box - Well 5 frogs!!! Thank you for your review I wish it was three months sooner. Got to pull the trigger at some point and I think it is going to work out fine. Now I have to get it in the boat and wired up :)
Just lost my beautiful little girl too...14yo. Best friend, doesn't even come close to a description that is beyond words. The emptiness within can't be expressed. I tip my hat to all the 'mums' and 'dads' on this channel.
Gobelpower true to form... Stay clear I say, they have far too many dangerous quality issues. Plenty of evidence and you should have mentioned that, Andy , well you did.😅
Im not sure where i can read about what happened in your family but we are also in the beginning of an end, our 11 year old dog has progressed to congestive heart failure, been spoling him and letting him live his best life.
The water spray test was to second number, IP6. I don't think a water hose could provide pressure to IP6K. Wonder if it could handle second number IP7. Representing an unfortunate boating trip. Of course the water would need to be, salt water.
That reinforced plastic tape is worthless. They decompose within two years to dust. Don't ask me how I know this since I have used that tape in the past.
your tests are really very good!! The manufacturer should pay close attention to this before sending a battery as it is very difficult to earn 5 frogs out there...
Compact size 12V/280Ah and looks like the V2 design addresses internal brackets and waterproof protection issues. Hopefully you’ll get the V2 in to test 👍
I was reading the Eve LF304 datasheet, and it says that it needs to be compressed to 300kg before doing any tests. I was always fearful of tightening the screws to hard... But yeah, I have Eve LF304 grade A cells that easily fit in my EEL box (eel is better available than seplos in EU, and while I always need to connect to support, they always fix things). A set of Eve LF304 grade B cells were not so easy to fit. I added one compression rubber sheet and I needed to adjust the compression plate over the length of 12 hours. The grade A needed at least 3 sheets.
Great video Andy! So sorry for your loss.💔 I have had to go through this so many times with our cat's one of which was 21 years old. It's always heart breaking but we have to remember that unfortunately the reality is we will always out live most of our pets in our life time. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos and most of all the big smile you always put on my face. I absolutely love your sence of humor!!!!😁
Boats might like this type as an alternative to Victron batteries... Maybe. Too bad it was damaged in transport. I liked the casing actually and the charge/discharge printed on its side. After all, it's not ment for stationary and might see some prying eyes and hands before it's 'end of life' .
I really like the JBD BMS’s mine only has 150ma passive balancer and has kept my CATL 302ah cells perfectly balanced for over 2 years and over 300 full cycles. Great video as always, looking forward to the next one 👍
Is paypaling you money more attractive or becomming a youtube member? I canˋt imagine youtube doesn’t take money for that service. Or do you make member only content?
I don't like the idea of the bracket holding the battery, high density foam rubber would be better with the wiring bar somehow mounted to the battery pack.
Ich antworte einfach auf deutsch 😂 kann ja jeder übersetzten lassen. Du kannst die Aluhalterung mit einem zwei Komponenten Kleber rein kleben. Dann musst du Nix bohren.
Thank you for this honest review. I found the 'protections' section in the app (settings) very attractively presented in 3 columns next to each other. In many apps this is a mess, but here it is neatly done. Respect for your intro . Lots of courage for you and the family .😻
0502’24/0020h 🇺🇸 0503’24/1720h 🇦🇺 Hallo mein Freund, danke für die Bewertung der Gobel Power-Batterie. I thought so too about the shoddy construction, with AL cabinet and support struts. JBL has become a standard system BMS, which is great. The newer models are even better. The annoying 6 Blue and Black cables and no more, replaced with sturdy Cu threaded 6mm tabs easy to bolt on and looks great. I’ve gone through your enhanced JBL configuration and made changes to mine. Thank you for that. Best wishes und 73s.
not for a boat. Boats can move violently and are always in motion. I would be very nervous having this thing come apart internally and possibly cause a short. no thank you! great review.
Andy, may I use this great video to ask bit off topic; when using battery bms (such as great new jk-bms) to externally control your Victron MPPTs do you recommend using these BMSs also as a battery monitors in example cerbo gx or do you recommend using the shunt? Finishing my first setup and thinking which to use. You have both options in cerbo gx. Would be also great to have update what settings you have currently overall in your cerbo/venus system. Many thanks, I love this channel. 😅
Would it be weird to say i sort of miss the disgusting ceiling mattresses? Oh wait...i should have waited till the end of the video...I find myself sort of unconsciously always looking at them waiting for something to crawl out perhaps.
Just to be clear: This is a Datamatrix Code on the battery, not a QR-Code. I got the same "problem" with CATL cells. However, the manual method works for CATL, but not the camera scan. All the best!
that does not really fit DIY compared to all the other stuff you are showing. Who buys such small 12 V batteries while they are expensive like hell and you can not know which kind of cells you get . I prefer to buy eve cells and build what I need and learn what has been improved, but I hate these kits out of cells and case hiding everything .
Chinese engeneers and designers are frogs. Nice cells, but as always they dont know how to design a good product. Thanks Andy for your tests and one of the best aspects of your channel is that every test is not sponsorized. Great work!
my little princess is 15+yrs now and health decreasing.... I can feel the pain already when she uses the rainbow bridge in maybe near future - who knows. Am with you my friend!
Sad for your families loss Andy. Congratulations on reaching 85k subscribers which only indicates your relentless great videos, which are educational, thoughtful honest and funny!
I am so sorry to hear about you and your family’s loss. It always made me smile seeing your 2 pups in the video’s. My dog is traditionally laying next to me while I watch your videos or when in am doing a project. They are constant companions which always makes it harder when they are gone. 😢. Congrats on 85k!!!
Andy, the boat and RV market is quite big so this is a great battery for us. I think you should have sealed the terminals when you water tested as you could arc them and get a surprise!. André in Sydney
12 volt batteries are quite popular for RV's here in the us. I actually just built two 280ah 4s battery for my motorhome with cells and bms from gobel power.
Im looking for a RV battery but this thing scares me to use it for it. Potential short through water leak from the RV tank and a also from Vibration with all its conductive metal parts.
Grüße aus Hessen / Hanau !!! Hätte nie gedacht, dass ich mir Videos die auf englisch sind bis zum Schluß ansehen werde, bzw. verfolge. Aber, Du hast es geschafft mich dazu zu bringen. Einfach genial. Bleib so wie du bist! Gruß, Kai
can you talk about the LG battrey recall why they are saying they can over heat and catch fire , its not the battery cells fault they catch fire if its the BMS thats faulty just over charging ? who knows why they are burning
16+ years with the only female that was happy to see me no matter what. Hard to say goodbye to that kind of a friend. I feel your pain...
+1. Lost my best friend 9 years ago...and every time my children, who never met him, ask me about him, I got tears jn my eyes.
I believe that this battery is aimed for the RV industry - Small footprint (removable handle) and waterproofing designed to be installed outside for easier compliance with the new battery regulations from November (last year - Lithium cannot be installed in habitable area and must be vented to outdoor space) Too bad the waterproofing didn't hold up. I wonder if this was also from the transport damage? I guess we'll never know unless Gobel send you another sample to test again!
A dog is a friend, who is with you no matter what happens. A dog is always true. Although a dog is not a human and should not be treated like a human, he is a family member. I hope you get a new family member soon.
About the test: You are very strict, nothing wrong with that. The inner design is very clean, other manufacturers don't waste time and money on the inner parts, as almost nobody will get to see it.
I guess, there is a reason, why the box is made from aluminium: Plastic is expensive, if it has to be physical, chemical and UV resistant. If it has to be good looking as well, the molds get very expensive. Metall is far easier to handle, you can bend it without shrinking, you can weld it, you can paint it. Ideal for a small production.
IP protection: The inner seams should be sealed. Looks like they used a buthyl rubber (don't know the english term, in german it's Buthylkautschuk..), that's really superior stuff, i worked a lot with it and would not use anything else.
The bracket is to weak, no question. There should be foam, to prevent the battery from moving side to side.
Seems crazy that you buy cells that are delivered in foam packaging but you buy a battery in a cheap tin can where you can't see if parts have broken loose without destruction of the case.
For me that's too many uninsulated connections and unprotected cables aside from the battery block supported by plastic lugs and flimsy spot welded brackets. I give one frog for matching spec but lose four for hopeless design.
Hi Andy, I just received my 12V 280AH Gobel battery last week. Same damage as yours only mine had a few more plastic pieces off the top where the balance wires run. Same pushed in bracket, scratch and shallow dent on side of #4 cell almost identical to yours. I did not remove my damaged bracket. I reassembled with 1/8 inch thick high density rubber matting (~$30 worth ) on bottom and all four sides and a couple strips on top as well to keep the pack from shifting. I wish Gobel would have done the same as I think it would have kept damage due to shipping from happening. My cells are matched in voltage but I have not has a chance to charge fully and discharge fully to see how the battery and cells react. Hopefully the battery is OK. My cost for the Basic model was $540 total including shipping to USA. I ordered Feb 26 and it got to my home April 22. My use is marine on my 35 foot sailboat. Gobel should consider selling it as a kit with 1/8 inch rubber matting to line the interior and shipping the case and battery cells separate. I know $$$ cost of shipping but if those cells came all nice and packed in foam and the metal case and BMS in a separate box - Well 5 frogs!!! Thank you for your review I wish it was three months sooner. Got to pull the trigger at some point and I think it is going to work out fine. Now I have to get it in the boat and wired up :)
Hey, can you tell me what fuse you used on balancer leads (from your bank build)? Now im using none, but safety is nice.
Haha Waterproof, for a moment I thought you were carrying it to the pool 🙂
Just lost my beautiful little girl too...14yo. Best friend, doesn't even come close to a description that is beyond words. The emptiness within can't be expressed. I tip my hat to all the 'mums' and 'dads' on this channel.
What battery has more power this 4 x 280ah or one of the server jackeyper battery? Anyone please.
Gobelpower true to form... Stay clear I say, they have far too many dangerous quality issues. Plenty of evidence and you should have mentioned that, Andy , well you did.😅
Andy, A bad design bracket, it should have had 4 sides folded down to it instead of 2 sides
Im not sure where i can read about what happened in your family but we are also in the beginning of an end, our 11 year old dog has progressed to congestive heart failure, been spoling him and letting him live his best life.
The water spray test was to second number, IP6. I don't think a water hose could provide pressure to IP6K. Wonder if it could handle second number IP7. Representing an unfortunate boating trip. Of course the water would need to be, salt water.
What did I miss regarding the intro??? Like# 321
One of Andy's dogs passed away. She will be missed, I am sure.
@@CollinBaillie Oh no... prayer for you and your wife Andy!
@@CollinBaillie where did he post about the loss? I've seen this video and I was shocked by this intro...
That reinforced plastic tape is worthless. They decompose within two years to dust. Don't ask me how I know this since I have used that tape in the past.
your tests are really very good!!
The manufacturer should pay close attention to this before sending a battery as it is very difficult to earn 5 frogs out there...
Dear Andy I missed what happened in the intro😢?
His dog sadly passed.
Gruß aus Bergisch Gladbach Deutschland.👍
Compact size 12V/280Ah and looks like the V2 design addresses internal brackets and waterproof protection issues. Hopefully you’ll get the V2 in to test 👍
Hello how many Amps should I charge 24v 600ah Lipo4 battery bank?
I was reading the Eve LF304 datasheet, and it says that it needs to be compressed to 300kg before doing any tests. I was always fearful of tightening the screws to hard...
But yeah, I have Eve LF304 grade A cells that easily fit in my EEL box (eel is better available than seplos in EU, and while I always need to connect to support, they always fix things). A set of Eve LF304 grade B cells were not so easy to fit. I added one compression rubber sheet and I needed to adjust the compression plate over the length of 12 hours.
The grade A needed at least 3 sheets.
Thanks Andy, thoughts are with you and your family.
Great video Andy! So sorry for your loss.💔 I have had to go through this so many times with our cat's one of which was 21 years old. It's always heart breaking but we have to remember that unfortunately the reality is we will always out live most of our pets in our life time. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos and most of all the big smile you always put on my face. I absolutely love your sence of humor!!!!😁
Wonder what size it is. Wonder how much bigger it is than a 100ah battery. Less frogs for you for not telling.
Boats might like this type as an alternative to Victron batteries... Maybe. Too bad it was damaged in transport.
I liked the casing actually and the charge/discharge printed on its side. After all, it's not ment for stationary and might see some prying eyes and hands before it's 'end of life' .
I really like the JBD BMS’s mine only has 150ma passive balancer and has kept my CATL 302ah cells perfectly balanced for over 2 years and over 300 full cycles.
Great video as always, looking forward to the next one 👍
Is paypaling you money more attractive or becomming a youtube member? I canˋt imagine youtube doesn’t take money for that service. Or do you make member only content?
Poor overal battery quality! In particular, there should be a seal instead of glue if screws are already attached to the housing.
I don't like the idea of the bracket holding the battery, high density foam rubber would be better with the wiring bar somehow mounted to the battery pack.
Ich antworte einfach auf deutsch 😂 kann ja jeder übersetzten lassen.
Du kannst die Aluhalterung mit einem zwei Komponenten Kleber rein kleben. Dann musst du Nix bohren.
Learning lot from you, Thank you.
What's the name of the music in the background?
We all need to stop worrying about 'portable this or that'... I
It it can't meet our home's needs it's not worth our time.
Thank you for this honest review.
I found the 'protections' section in the app (settings) very attractively presented in 3 columns next to each other. In many apps this is a mess, but here it is neatly done.
Respect for your intro . Lots of courage for you and the family .😻
if the vent is pushing that flimsy insulation, does it still work ? =)
Big market, boats campervan caravans ECT. Great review as always
Maybe it’s a marine battery for small sailboats. Many lakes only allow small electric motors
iP65 is waterproof not submersible proof.
We need a Kärcher test for IPX6 😂
How do you stop the smart shunt shutting down and losing data when the bms shuts down?
It is raining here in sydney. Whats about perth! ❤❤❤
it is a Formel senor. it is only for high temperature protection.
Yes an thank you, God Bless Tiss a small world. M
You just found the low point drain for the battery
0502’24/0020h 🇺🇸 0503’24/1720h 🇦🇺 Hallo mein Freund, danke für die Bewertung der Gobel Power-Batterie. I thought so too about the shoddy construction, with AL cabinet and support struts. JBL has become a standard system BMS, which is great. The newer models are even better. The annoying 6 Blue and Black cables and no more, replaced with sturdy Cu threaded 6mm tabs easy to bolt on and looks great. I’ve gone through your enhanced JBL configuration and made changes to mine. Thank you for that. Best wishes und 73s.
Nice battery for mobile use. I wish I had this one in my RV. Removable straps is also nice for RV use. For me 4 frogs 🙂
not for a boat. Boats can move violently and are always in motion. I would be very nervous having this thing come apart internally and possibly cause a short. no thank you! great review.
What are those nice 18v power tools chargers on your desk?
at 12:46
Andy, may I use this great video to ask bit off topic; when using battery bms (such as great new jk-bms) to externally control your Victron MPPTs do you recommend using these BMSs also as a battery monitors in example cerbo gx or do you recommend using the shunt? Finishing my first setup and thinking which to use. You have both options in cerbo gx.
Would be also great to have update what settings you have currently overall in your cerbo/venus system. Many thanks, I love this channel. 😅
Another quality video, well done Andy.
Would it be weird to say i sort of miss the disgusting ceiling mattresses? Oh wait...i should have waited till the end of the video...I find myself sort of unconsciously always looking at them waiting for something to crawl out perhaps.
Just to be clear:
This is a Datamatrix Code on the battery, not a QR-Code.
I got the same "problem" with CATL cells. However, the manual method works for CATL, but not the camera scan.
All the best!
🐸🐸🐸
Thank you friend
that does not really fit DIY compared to all the other stuff you are showing.
Who buys such small 12 V batteries while they are expensive like hell and you can not know which kind of cells you get .
I prefer to buy eve cells and build what I need and learn what has been improved, but I hate these kits out of cells and case hiding everything .
Chinese engeneers and designers are frogs. Nice cells, but as always they dont know how to design a good product. Thanks Andy for your tests and one of the best aspects of your channel is that every test is not sponsorized. Great work!
my little princess is 15+yrs now and health decreasing.... I can feel the pain already when she uses the rainbow bridge in maybe near future - who knows. Am with you my friend!
Great to see you back mate, I bet Gobel would of said “are shit” 🙈
I’m sure they would want to fix any problems, no wool gets pulled over Andys eyes
Sad for your families loss Andy. Congratulations on reaching 85k subscribers which only indicates your relentless great videos, which are educational, thoughtful honest and funny!
can you just use a 240 v power supply to charge this battery ? any recommendations where to purchase one from please
I am so sorry to hear about you and your family’s loss. It always made me smile seeing your 2 pups in the video’s. My dog is traditionally laying next to me while I watch your videos or when in am doing a project. They are constant companions which always makes it harder when they are gone. 😢. Congrats on 85k!!!
Andy, the boat and RV market is quite big so this is a great battery for us. I think you should have sealed the terminals when you water tested as you could arc them and get a surprise!. André in Sydney
12 volt batteries are quite popular for RV's here in the us. I actually just built two 280ah 4s battery for my motorhome with cells and bms from gobel power.
:)
Andy, how about testing 4 x 12V batteries in series. They say you can do it but I found only 2 in series needed an equaliser to work without problems.
Im looking for a RV battery but this thing scares me to use it for it.
Potential short through water leak from the RV tank and a also from Vibration with all its conductive metal parts.
😎
Thank you. M on
what happened?
Would be nice if i could update my jbd bms just to get that proper balancer function.
Buy a 110V Peter and charge Tesla with 110W steps 😉
you should have been wearing the BOOM shirt when hosing the battery down.
It’s bent!
Better to have to hear the echo than think of you having mouse dropping fall on you
A T Burke
Sorry for your loss I have an old girl that's not too far away from..........................
Super Video mein Freund!!!!!
use a heat gun to soften sealants... this is done for automotive sealed ECU's
a hug from Brazil
Thank you Andy!
Nice test video. But leak could appear after case damage
THANK YOU Andy. 👍👍
What a beautiful day indeed...
Grüße aus Hessen / Hanau !!! Hätte nie gedacht, dass ich mir Videos die auf englisch sind bis zum Schluß ansehen werde, bzw. verfolge. Aber, Du hast es geschafft mich dazu zu bringen. Einfach genial. Bleib so wie du bist! Gruß, Kai
hugs
❤
Sorry for your loss
Ohhhhh
Like# 12
Heya, not really imprest with this battery oke it did pass capacitie but water inside and a broken brecket not good
Hello
Wait what happened?
Check the channel community posts. An old family friend (pet) passed away.
Thank you Andy and your welcome
Lovely intro
GEEZ ANDY YOU DOING NICE VIDEO! It's very nice to see people your age still having a nice 'friendship' with technology. Also your yard is amazing!
What an ignorant ageist remark!
can you talk about the LG battrey recall why they are saying they can over heat and catch fire , its not the battery cells fault they catch fire if its the BMS thats faulty just over charging ? who knows why they are burning
To be fair, the unfortunate water ingress was directed away from the pointy bits.
I miss my 3 every day. Cloudy today. 18.3 KW day yesterday.