Yeah, so I was supposed to edit that bit out by 08:30 but completely forgot. Already removed the files for editing and too lazy to re-edit an re-upload it again. Bloopers included in this one.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 For some reason my mind tries to pronounce 2 words at the same time quite often. This time it was "reacts" and "elevation" as I just read about the gun elevation of the ship. And there you go...
@@icetea1455 further investigation showed tye shelling only damaged her deck and caused minimum damage to tye hull *95% of her hull was covered by the citadel* so she was actually scuttled
@@cb7600 Hahaha, yeah right..... Bismarck's crew actually scuttled a 51000 ton mountain of sinking, flaming scrap metal. All guns silenced, her superstructure devastated, her main armour belt broken in several places along her port side, her command staff obliterated, internally aflame from end to end, her stern and port gunwales already underwater and hundreds of her crew already in the water behind her.... All the scuttling did was to sink her a few minutes earlier than was already happening. In the world of boxing the crew's scuttling efforts are what is known as "throwing in the towel", submission of a boxer when he has been punched senseless by a more powerful opponent, and only a fool would say, "the loser wasn't beaten, he gave in before he was annihilated.", when the truth is the loser had his arse handed to him on a plate. Watch this th-cam.com/video/9xX8XGMMXhE/w-d-xo.html which is a documentary that covers the 2003 expedition by one of the world's foremost marine recovery and forensics companies to carry out the most detailed & thorough survey of the wreck of the Bismarck to date, and see what one of the world's top naval architects and renowned expert in marine forensics (Bill Jurens), an esteemed maritime wreckage expert (David Mearns, one of the senior directors of the expedition company) and a preeminent professor in the academic world of naval military history (Eric Grove) have to say about the condition of Bismarck as she sits on the seabed, and who was responsible for her sinking, but of course you're free to subscribe to the conclusions drawn by a Hollywood film director if you must.
Pretty fun, but a an error when discussing North Carolina! She absolutely had the superheavy 16" rounds that the Iowas had. She also had a decent radar for targetting in 1941. Not the world's best, arguably only slightly behind Bismarck's except that Bismarcks system was sensitive and broke during his own maiden voyage.
Hm? I know that Bismarck had radar, but I've always read that the Allies had superior radar technology throughout the war. Seems odd for North Carolina to have less sophisticated radar, given that she was commissioned after Bismarck was sunk.
Great work, Stealth! A couple of small points on the North Carolina: 1) the 16"45 guns she was armed with could fire the super-heavy 2,700-pound shell 2) the firing rate on the 16"/45 main battery was 2 rounds per minute (per barrel). That means her rate of fire for this battle was _half_ of what it should have been.
True. North Carolina had the same rate of fire as King George V, despite having larger guns, and faster than Richelieu. Bismarck had a (theoretical) rate of fire far higher than any of them, though; 2.4 rounds per minute, apparently. That said, in reality, rate of fire isn't typically that important for capital ships, as they can rarely achieve their maximum in battle. At Denmark Strait, Hood and Prince of Wales fired much faster than Bismarck, for instance.
@@Cailus3542 to add to this, NC was originally designed to have the 14" rifles and was armored against them. But when the escalator clause was invoked, she was up-gunned to the 16' /45 but the armor was still designed to be proof against itself, only 14" return fire.
@@imperiousrex128 You really don't know that. As far as we know, the German hardware was far superior than anything the Allies had. Even to this day, NATO is using weapons that are the evolution of the weapons the Third Reich engineers built. So it's safe to say that Bismarck had superior guns and radar.
3:10 North Carolina's guns have a rate of fire of 2 rpm, as she uses the 16"/45 Mark 6 guns. 3:46 North Carolina can fire super-heavy shells, as her shell handling systems were redesigned to use the Mark 8 shell before any of the Iowa-class was laid down.
i would love to see the Tirpitz versus the Iowa. The Tirpitz was the sistership of the bismarck which many people forget. it had torpedos at the side. it was just as beautifull of a ship as bismarck. In WW2 it was laying in the shores of Norway waiting for combat/missions but becuase of the lack of screen or escorts it never saw action. the british were desperate to sink it and designed a bomb jsut to sink it. to get the range for the bombers to reach denmark the british removed all guns etc from the bombers and send them out. The Tirpitz got bombed to its death defenseless because the Luftwffe wasnt present.
Just one correction, the tall boy bomb that was used to sink it was not designed for the Tirpitz, but it was so big and heavy it could break the sound barrier allowing its to penetrate its deck armor. The bomb that actually did the Tirpitz in went clean through the stern of the ship entering the water, the explosion was just so powerful that it actually launched turret no.3 into the air after exiting the ship.
At the 11:06 the Captain of the North Carolina is like; “Turn away from them” *A few minutes later* “Turn in towards them” *Not even a minute later* “Turn away from them” Also I don’t know if you take requests from the comments, but I would like to see HMS Belfast vs KMS Prinz Eugen.
So, this is entirely by eyeballing and idk if there are rules to this that I just don't know about, but the ships (especially capital ships) often look shorter than their real-life counterparts when you place the tonnage of the hull at the same tonnage as the reported tonnage in reality. So I've personally been giving the ships bigger hulls and then just matching the tonnage on the left to what it was in reality. I wish there was a length of ship stat that we could see so we could use that too. Anyways, I love this channel and only found it recently, but keep up the good work!
if you heard him at the start of the vid and looked at what he was talking about youd notice that NC has a higher tonnage compared to real life since the hull doesnt give less so adjusting doesnt work for her in this scenario
@@headshothunt3r414 I did see that, but in most of the vids I've watched from him, he doesn't move the tonnage up even if he is underweight. It gives a lot of room to help balance the ship better
I mean, the game is still in development but already great. They will probably add more features hopefully with where you can put in the length too and more hulls. There are very few atm
Yeah, the reload speed for both the NC and Montana videos have been extremely far off. I mentioned it on the last video but honestly improving the crew skill to simulate American FCS and help bring the reload closer to realistic is probably the only way to get a good representation of US battleship guns. Dreadnoughts really does not like Tri and Quad gun turrets.
May i also add that auto loaders were used on both the North Carolinas and Iowas but also on the south Dakota class battle ships like BB 59 USS Massachusetts
@@Cailus3542 All BBs had a reload of about 30 seconds. Weight and size had no impact as the loading mechanisms and hoists were simply made bigger and better to compensate. German guns from the WW1 era and WW2 used sideways sliding breech blocks, hence their faster rate of fire. Realistically rof does not impact combat as ships don't fire as quickly as they can. The first dozen or two salvoes goes to establishing the range, hence the slow rof. Bismarck at the Denmark Straight avaraged one salvo per minut, despite her guns being capable of firing every 20s for the first few minutes. The system was not reliable enough to maintain such a high rof for long. And no, no auto-loaders were used on any of the US BBs, or anyone else's. They had a gun rammer, not an auto-loader. Ships like the Worchester and Des Moines were the first major warships in the world to have auto-loading guns.
@@violetvictoria9908well you don't exactly have to penetrate Yamato, just burn the crew and superstructure to the ground. As for how obsolete the turtle-back armor is, it sure did keep Bismarck alive for a long time.
@@violetvictoria9908 yeah Bismarck wasn't combat effective due to his main Tower being knocked out, NOT his armor scheme. Same thing would happen to Yamato
According to an interview of someone that worked in the gun room "When were fresh, we can hop in here[the gun room]and make a load in about 14-16 seconds..." He goes on to say immediately after that drops off as you get wore out. On the 16-inch/45-Caliber Mark 6 specific wiki page it lists 2 rounds per minute as rate of fire.
Hey Stealth, I have some ideas about future batles for Legendary Encounters. I will try to post every day new batle suggestions. For today I researched some informations about KM Graf Spee vs FN/MN Dunkerque. Why this ships you can ask. Well, Dunkerque was designed to counter German Deutschland-class cruisers. I dont know if 1 vs 1 is fair tho... Technology year: 1935 GERMANY: Graf Spee: Historical tactical and technical data: Class and type:"Cruiser" Displacement: Design: 12,630 t (12,430 long tons; 13,920 short tons) Full load: 14,290 long tons (14,520 t) Installed power:54,000 PS (53,260 shp; 39,720 kW) Propulsion: Eight MAN diesel engines Two propellers Speed: 28 knots (52 km/h; 32 mph) Range: 10,000 nautical miles (19,000 km; 12,000 mi) at 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph) Complement: 30 officers 921-1,040 enlisted Armament:
6 × 28 cm (11 in) in triple turrets 8 × 15 cm (5.9 in) in single turrets 8 × 53.3 cm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes Armor: main turrets: 140 mm (5.5 in) belt: 80 mm (3.1 in) deck: 45 mm (1.8 in) ---------------------- IN GAME: Displacement: 16,200 Speed: 28/28.5 kn Range: 12700km Diesel Engines Armour: 80mm/3.1in Main Belt [101mm/4in is minimum sadly] 45mm/1.8in Main Deck 140mm/5.5in Side Turret Armour 90-105mm/3.5-4.2in Top Turret Armour Advanced Armored Cruiser I Triangular Tower VI Small Sec Tower V Funnel Station Standard/Large 2x3 279mm/11in guns 2x2 127mm/5in gun [no space for 152mm/6in guns] 2x4 533mm/21in torps ---------------------- FRANCE: Dunkerque: Historical tactical and technical data: Class and type: Fast battleship Displacement 26,500 t (26,100 long tons) (standard) 35,500 t (34,900 long tons) (deep load) Installed power: 107,500 shp (80,200 kW) 6 Indret boilers Propulsion: 4 × screws 4 × geared steam turbines Speed: 29.5 knots Range: 7,850 nmi (14,540 km; 9,030 mi) at 15 knots (28 km/h; 17 mph) 2,450 nmi (4,540 km; 2,820 mi) at 28.5 knots (52.8 km/h; 32.8 mph) Crew: 81 officers 1,300 enlisted men Armament: 8 × 330 mm (13 in) guns 16 × 130 mm (5.1 in) DP guns 8 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns 32 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in) AA machineguns ---------------------- IN GAME: Displacement: 35,500 Speed: 31 kn Range: 16600km [max] Armour: 225mm/8.85in Main Belt 115mm/4.53in Main Deck 270mm/10.63 Conning Tower 330mm/13in Side Turret Armour Battlecruiser IV Light Modern Tower III Light Modern Sec Tower Mega Funnel V 2x4 330mm/13 inch main guns 5x2 127mm/5 inch secondary guns
Kinda glad it isn’t USS Alabama after seeing the whole displacement thing. Just wouldn’t be the mighty A if the secondary tower didn’t match. It would have the same exact displacement problem which is such a disappointment. Hope the devs fix that soon bc it just isn’t an ww2 American BB without that iconic superstructure covered in guns.
As someone who has been on the North Carolina, I'm rooting for North Carolina. however like your last Iowa ships, the accuracy of the 16in are nerfed :( also, the Iowas damage control was very sophisticated. overall great vid on the best you could do
Yeah, at the time of this recording, the 16 inch cannons were still reeling from an accuracy nerf, so any critical penetrations are a hail-mary. 15 inch cannons meanwhile, are pretty damned reliable. I've had a lot of good luck with 15 inch doubles and even singles on some meme ships I've made.
So even though my comment from yesterday had the most up-votes (34 vs this video's 17) I guess we're not going to see my proposed Legendary Encounter, eh? The Battle of the Sisters: Fusō & Yamashiro vs Nelson & Rodney /// 2v2 It's late 1941, the British Admiralty has agreed to send the HMS Nelson and HMS Rodney to the far-east to reinforce their presence instead of sending HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales--the thought being that the two sister ships should compliment each other well with regards to performance and firepower. The Japanese are waiting and have set a trap--while the main strike force sent to Hawaii is commencing the raid on Pearl Harbor, the Fusō and Yamashiro have been dispatched to the Indian Ocean to blockade any reinforcements being sent via the Suez Canal. The pairs of ships both have the same maximum speed of 23 knots while their armament could also be considered a draw. It's a battle of sisters as the aging dreadnought style ships hold their ground against the advancing British treaty-built battleships. Fusō-class battleship Displacement 35,900 long tons (36,500 t) (full load) Length 202.7 m (665 ft) (overall) Beam 28.7 m (94 ft 2 in) Installed power 24 × Miyahara water-tube boilers 40,000 shp (30,000 kW) Propulsion 4 × shafts; 2 × steam turbine sets Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph) Range 8,000 nmi (15,000 km; 9,200 mi) at 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph) Complement 1,198 Armament 6 × twin 356 mm (14 in) guns 16 × single 152 mm (6 in) guns 6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes Armor Waterline belt 229-305 mm (9-12 in) Deck: 32-51 mm (1.3-2.0 in) Gun turrets: 229-279 mm (9-11 in) Barbettes: 203-305 mm (8-12 in) Conning tower: 351 mm (13.8 in) Nelson-class battleship Displacement 37,780 long tons (38,390 t) (full load) Length 709 ft 10 in (216.4 m) o/a Beam 106 ft (32.3 m) Installed power 8 × Admiralty 3-drum boilers 45,000 shp (34,000 kW) Propulsion 2 shafts; 2 geared steam turbines Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph) Range 7,000 nmi (13,000 km; 8,100 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph) Complement 1,361 (flagship) Armament 3 × triple 16 in (406 mm) guns 6 × twin 6 in (152 mm) guns 6 × single 4.7 in (120 mm) AA guns 8 × single 2 pdr (40 mm (1.6 in)) AA guns 2 × 24.5 in (622 mm) torpedo tubes Armour Waterline belt: 13-14 in (330-356 mm) Deck: 3.75-6.25 in (95-159 mm) Barbettes: 12-15 in (305-381 mm) Gun turrets: 9-16 in (229-406 mm) Conning tower: 12-14 in (305-356 mm) Bulkheads: 4-12 in (102-305 mm)
I think he chooses the one that would be the most interesting, the only “Historical Encounter” he has done is The Battle of the Denmark Strait. All the other battle have been with fictional encounters and many other people like that (including me) so I don’t know what to say.
@@DemonHunter2271 Maybe this is just me, but I hardly think the USS North Carolina vs Bismarck would be interesting. Granted, my scenario had the most likes yesterday and still wasn't selected, but I could just be a bitter and pissy sore loser. 🤷♀ I am a firm believer that two groups of two sister ships built at different times with different parameters and styles would be more interesting than the USS North Carolina vs Bismarck.
@@JtGorski00 Well I have seen him comment on other ideas saying that he likes them, so I guess the only indicator is when he comments on it so guess you’ll have to wait.
Hey stealth could you do roma s vs bismarck and tirpitz or any other BB i think that would be a great battle with the 3 roma class BB s against 2 or 3 ships or even the H44 super Battleship that would be great i think Note:I hope you will finaly see this also love you vids
Bismarck with its super fast reload just had many more rolls of the dice to damage something important than NC while still having enough pen. Just look at that insane RNG of damaging the B turret and conning tower back to back in the second round
@@enricohunterIts a video game at the end of the day bud.Least the North Carolina class can be visited by anyone today without the need of sub or diving gear lol.
Can you do the Kongo vs HMS Tiger. Kongo was built in the UK by Vickers as a private contract for the Japanese. The Admiralty were so impressed by the design they changed the design of the Tiger to incorporate a lot of the ideas from the Kongo. It would be interesting to see how they would fair against each other in an "as built" configuration.
Nice video, but to be honest I was not surprised. North Carolina was build for the pacific. There you had long range Engagements. Thats why the ships had the all or nothing armor. The atlantic had total diffrent rules. There the ships engage in very close combat. Bismarck was build to brawl on short distances, that was the reason why she was build. North Carolina was build for long range fights so brawling simply was not her main job. Would be a shame if Bismarck lost a fight in a field where she is superior. If Norca could manage to hold the distance as long as possible while shooting Bismarck from distance with all 9 guns that battle could have ended diffrent.
I have an idea for a battle. I would like to see US Navy the -class heavy cruiser vs the Soviet Project-66 large cruiser. That should be an interesting Cold War cruiser matchup.
I'd love to see one more round of this where you have NC fight at range against Bismarck, instead of moving in close to brawl. Bismarck's armor scheme was designed for close-range fights in the North Sea, whereas the AON scheme on the NC might be better suited for a long-range engagement. Bismarck's deck armor scheme (using multiple layers) was considered to be sub-par when compared to a single armored deck - not sure if the game reflects this accurately. Another issue is speed - NC would need to hit Bismarck hard early on to be able to stay at range, otherwise Bismarck can close and tip the scales in her favor. Finally, as others have mentioned, the firing rate of NC is probably much closer to Bismarck's than what you currently have it at. Good video and good matchup, overall. Keep up the great work!
I agreed, although it should be determined by the fire rate of the guns then what shells it’s using. Though now that I say that, it will still apply. I agree that it should be a way to balance it out.
Funnily enough, Bismarck had lighter shells than that. the game put them at 820 kilograms, but Bismarck's SK C/34 15-inch guns fired 800-kilogram shells.
The North Carolina was laid down in 1937 and completed in 1941. So you might have same as Bismarck had to set the date for the US to 1937 to get the correct towers. I don't own the game so I don't know what would be available in the 1937 US ship designer.
The one complaint I have with the layout of the NC is that the B turret needs to be a little more forward, it had a better firing arc than what is portrayed by this design.
Besides the for-mentioned super heavy shells, the 30 second reload and the radar. NC also has slightly thicker deck armor 5.5in vs 5, maybe not enough to help in the fight but more correct. The Bismark also has slightly lighter shells than what you have listed. Not sure if the light shells would actually be correct on the version of UAD. I also believe the firing arcs are a little off because of the hull form. This seems to be a big issue in all the fights. One ship firing over its shoulder cant bring all guns to play.
I would like to see HMS Queen Elizabeth vs USS California both in there WW1 configuration ( before there modernization ) I know the California is Commissioned after the war but they are close in terms of displacement and firepower. Mabey do the battle in the 1920 time.
the all-or-nothing armor of american ships was meant to protect them from long range fire while the german turtleback armor becomes stronger at shorter ranges. fighting a german battleship at close range is pretty much suicide.
I don't know if you know this, and I'm not hating on you, but saying "North Cal" or "South Cal" when talking about the Carolinas is uhh, well incorrect. North or South Cal actually refers to California. I would suggest if you want to shorten the title you could call it NC or SC, it's just a minor detail that my South Carolina ass was just a little stuck on😂 I love these videos though, keep up the great work!
imagine the desigber of bismarck was Stealth and then the builder changed something without Stealth knowing... Stealth : "What the hell did you do to my Bismarck?!"
You had, note the word had, a range and throw weight advantage. Half pistol shot was not a good plan. Flank speed away and let Bismark chase you, 4 vs your 3 and then at 20 klicks turn and angel in.
The fact that you can miss Salvo after Salvo after Salvo at 1.5km is a problem I think. From the range you can practically boresight the ship. Those values don't make any sense.
Stealth, I wonder, does the AI act differently on different engagement ranges? So far on max range there seems to be always one ship that just wants to go home. In case you have nothing to do, does the North Carolina react different on different ranges? Does she react the same way if you repeat the same battle? (only the start of the battle is important here)
I understand some BB's are brawlers and work best getting close, others are snipers that work best firing at a distance. So could the AI be deciding hey, based on this ship design .. I need to get close or stay distant? Or am I giving the AI too much credit lol.
Scenario suggestion the year is 1944 you are a German admiral in command of making the largest ship in the navy because the previous ship was stolen by the pesky russians. Displacment max:130000 tons Tech germany 1940 enemy:US Engagment range is 15000m the enemy gets 2 battleships 5 light crusiers 5 destroyers 3 heavys and 10 transports you get 1 battleship and any class of your choice besides battleship.
Well, Let’s ignore the fact that North Carolina looks... And just focus on it being somewhat accurate in terms of stats... The towers on the North Carolina are far worse than the Bismarck’s (Top tier towers vs old 1920’s ones... The Iowa would have made a better North Carolina, still... Interesting fight Also, the Bismarck was designed for close range, so, along with the Turtleback, getting closer was probably the worst choice possible... Historically, I’d give it to the North Carolina... as long as you don’t do anything stupid...
@@TheTripleAce3 So I looked it up and this is what I understand: It’s a US battleship class the Taillman IV-2 being apart of the class but was never built because of The Washington Naval Treaty. I feel like it would be hard to build a ship like that though.
You can't defeat turtleback at close range. Get close to Bismarck is suicide. There's a reason why the Brits couldn't sink her. They destroyed everything on top of the ship but couldn't cause flooding.
I really think that the Americans are cursed in this game. AI is stupid as hell. I don't think that I have seen a single American ship win AI v AI. It is really a hard pill to swallow that the most powerful navy at the end of WW2 cannot seem to win a single battle in this series. Oh well just a game.
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Yeah, so I was supposed to edit that bit out by 08:30 but completely forgot. Already removed the files for editing and too lazy to re-edit an re-upload it again. Bloopers included in this one.
Alright 👍
Fair enough lol, a funny bit even if it was accidental :)
So, from what I was able to find out, American battleships had a fire rate of 2 rounds a minute, so one every 30 seconds
omg i can't stop laughing right now... 8:40 She starts at 21 km with an erection.
what was on your mind when you were recording that.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 For some reason my mind tries to pronounce 2 words at the same time quite often. This time it was "reacts" and "elevation" as I just read about the gun elevation of the ship. And there you go...
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Stealth: Rudder's out, stuck in a turn.
Bismark: I can relate.
True, funny how Bismarck can cause damage to another battleship’s Rudder, but loses it’s own Rudder gets destroyed by biplanes.
@@DemonHunter2271 she was destroyed by gunfire from rodney and KGV not from the biplanes the torps only sealed her fate as a doomed ship.
@@icetea1455 Still lost their Rudder though.
@@icetea1455 further investigation showed tye shelling only damaged her deck and caused minimum damage to tye hull *95% of her hull was covered by the citadel* so she was actually scuttled
@@cb7600 Hahaha, yeah right..... Bismarck's crew actually scuttled a 51000 ton mountain of sinking, flaming scrap metal. All guns silenced, her superstructure devastated, her main armour belt broken in several places along her port side, her command staff obliterated, internally aflame from end to end, her stern and port gunwales already underwater and hundreds of her crew already in the water behind her.... All the scuttling did was to sink her a few minutes earlier than was already happening.
In the world of boxing the crew's scuttling efforts are what is known as "throwing in the towel", submission of a boxer when he has been punched senseless by a more powerful opponent, and only a fool would say, "the loser wasn't beaten, he gave in before he was annihilated.", when the truth is the loser had his arse handed to him on a plate.
Watch this th-cam.com/video/9xX8XGMMXhE/w-d-xo.html which is a documentary that covers the 2003 expedition by one of the world's foremost marine recovery and forensics companies to carry out the most detailed & thorough survey of the wreck of the Bismarck to date, and see what one of the world's top naval architects and renowned expert in marine forensics (Bill Jurens), an esteemed maritime wreckage expert (David Mearns, one of the senior directors of the expedition company) and a preeminent professor in the academic world of naval military history (Eric Grove) have to say about the condition of Bismarck as she sits on the seabed, and who was responsible for her sinking, but of course you're free to subscribe to the conclusions drawn by a Hollywood film director if you must.
Pretty fun, but a an error when discussing North Carolina! She absolutely had the superheavy 16" rounds that the Iowas had. She also had a decent radar for targetting in 1941. Not the world's best, arguably only slightly behind Bismarck's except that Bismarcks system was sensitive and broke during his own maiden voyage.
Hm? I know that Bismarck had radar, but I've always read that the Allies had superior radar technology throughout the war. Seems odd for North Carolina to have less sophisticated radar, given that she was commissioned after Bismarck was sunk.
Bismarck is a she not a he. Only one person called Bismarck a he and that was Gunther Lütjens.
@@Maximilian7992 he was who was in charge of bismarck so...
@@Tdelliex yeah but it was person as opposed to thousands of others
@@Maximilian7992 that was only the captains preference not the whole organization while every1 refer ships as she.
Great work, Stealth! A couple of small points on the North Carolina:
1) the 16"45 guns she was armed with could fire the super-heavy 2,700-pound shell
2) the firing rate on the 16"/45 main battery was 2 rounds per minute (per barrel). That means her rate of fire for this battle was _half_ of what it should have been.
So what you are saying is, she had super heavy shells, with a rate of fire of light shells.
True. North Carolina had the same rate of fire as King George V, despite having larger guns, and faster than Richelieu. Bismarck had a (theoretical) rate of fire far higher than any of them, though; 2.4 rounds per minute, apparently.
That said, in reality, rate of fire isn't typically that important for capital ships, as they can rarely achieve their maximum in battle. At Denmark Strait, Hood and Prince of Wales fired much faster than Bismarck, for instance.
Also, I'm pretty sure NorCal's radar was superior to Bismarck's. I think the Allies in general had better radar systems throughout the war, actually.
@@Cailus3542 to add to this, NC was originally designed to have the 14" rifles and was armored against them. But when the escalator clause was invoked, she was up-gunned to the 16' /45 but the armor was still designed to be proof against itself, only 14" return fire.
@@imperiousrex128 You really don't know that. As far as we know, the German hardware was far superior than anything the Allies had. Even to this day, NATO is using weapons that are the evolution of the weapons the Third Reich engineers built. So it's safe to say that Bismarck had superior guns and radar.
3:10 North Carolina's guns have a rate of fire of 2 rpm, as she uses the 16"/45 Mark 6 guns.
3:46 North Carolina can fire super-heavy shells, as her shell handling systems were redesigned to use the Mark 8 shell before any of the Iowa-class was laid down.
i would love to see the Tirpitz versus the Iowa.
The Tirpitz was the sistership of the bismarck which many people forget. it had torpedos at the side. it was just as beautifull of a ship as bismarck. In WW2 it was laying in the shores of Norway waiting for combat/missions but becuase of the lack of screen or escorts it never saw action. the british were desperate to sink it and designed a bomb jsut to sink it. to get the range for the bombers to reach denmark the british removed all guns etc from the bombers and send them out. The Tirpitz got bombed to its death defenseless because the Luftwffe wasnt present.
Look up operation zitronella
Just one correction, the tall boy bomb that was used to sink it was not designed for the Tirpitz, but it was so big and heavy it could break the sound barrier allowing its to penetrate its deck armor. The bomb that actually did the Tirpitz in went clean through the stern of the ship entering the water, the explosion was just so powerful that it actually launched turret no.3 into the air after exiting the ship.
I agree with u, but problaly iowa would win vut i still thing tirpitz have a chance
iowa Smashes
Having watched all of these i really think theres some design in the game where the friendly AI is just....worse than the enemy AI but im not sure
At the 11:06 the Captain of the North Carolina is like;
“Turn away from them”
*A few minutes later*
“Turn in towards them”
*Not even a minute later*
“Turn away from them”
Also I don’t know if you take requests from the comments, but I would like to see HMS Belfast vs KMS Prinz Eugen.
A ship vs ship suggestion.
USS Fletcher vs the IJN Shimikaze
Yeah definitely doing this one.
I don’t think we have a DD encounter yet, I would love to see that!
@@Stealth17Gaming Thanks!
I know it may be difficult. But the Japanese ISE battleship before her carrier conversion. Could be matched up with just about any previous ship
no the super heavy shell is all us bbs and cruisers
So, this is entirely by eyeballing and idk if there are rules to this that I just don't know about, but the ships (especially capital ships) often look shorter than their real-life counterparts when you place the tonnage of the hull at the same tonnage as the reported tonnage in reality. So I've personally been giving the ships bigger hulls and then just matching the tonnage on the left to what it was in reality. I wish there was a length of ship stat that we could see so we could use that too. Anyways, I love this channel and only found it recently, but keep up the good work!
if you heard him at the start of the vid and looked at what he was talking about youd notice that NC has a higher tonnage compared to real life since the hull doesnt give less so adjusting doesnt work for her in this scenario
@@headshothunt3r414 I did see that, but in most of the vids I've watched from him, he doesn't move the tonnage up even if he is underweight. It gives a lot of room to help balance the ship better
I mean, the game is still in development but already great. They will probably add more features hopefully with where you can put in the length too and more hulls. There are very few atm
North Carolina had a then state of the art reloading system it was technically an auto loading system
Yeah, the reload speed for both the NC and Montana videos have been extremely far off. I mentioned it on the last video but honestly improving the crew skill to simulate American FCS and help bring the reload closer to realistic is probably the only way to get a good representation of US battleship guns. Dreadnoughts really does not like Tri and Quad gun turrets.
May i also add that auto loaders were used on both the North Carolinas and Iowas but also on the south Dakota class battle ships like BB 59 USS Massachusetts
From what I can see, North Carolina's 16 inch guns had the same rate of fire as King George V's 14 inch guns. Yikes.
@@Cailus3542 pretty advanced stuff
@@Cailus3542 All BBs had a reload of about 30 seconds. Weight and size had no impact as the loading mechanisms and hoists were simply made bigger and better to compensate. German guns from the WW1 era and WW2 used sideways sliding breech blocks, hence their faster rate of fire. Realistically rof does not impact combat as ships don't fire as quickly as they can. The first dozen or two salvoes goes to establishing the range, hence the slow rof. Bismarck at the Denmark Straight avaraged one salvo per minut, despite her guns being capable of firing every 20s for the first few minutes. The system was not reliable enough to maintain such a high rof for long. And no, no auto-loaders were used on any of the US BBs, or anyone else's. They had a gun rammer, not an auto-loader. Ships like the Worchester and Des Moines were the first major warships in the world to have auto-loading guns.
"The accuracy is 69 percent, which is very nice"
You don't say?
Tirpitz vs Yamato?
Or Fletcher vs Shimakaze?
tirpitz vs yamato lmao
yeah a thing with 8 15" guns and an obsolete armor scheme vs the largest battleship in history
@@violetvictoria9908well you don't exactly have to penetrate Yamato, just burn the crew and superstructure to the ground. As for how obsolete the turtle-back armor is, it sure did keep Bismarck alive for a long time.
@@Dont14-r4k alive isn’t combat effective and bismarck was useless in combat very quickly
@@violetvictoria9908 yeah Bismarck wasn't combat effective due to his main Tower being knocked out, NOT his armor scheme. Same thing would happen to Yamato
According to an interview of someone that worked in the gun room "When were fresh, we can hop in here[the gun room]and make a load in about 14-16 seconds..." He goes on to say immediately after that drops off as you get wore out. On the 16-inch/45-Caliber Mark 6 specific wiki page it lists 2 rounds per minute as rate of fire.
The friendly AI is definitely worse than enemy AI
Can we see USS Texas vs HMS iron duke
Hey Stealth, I have some ideas about future batles for Legendary Encounters. I will try to post every day new batle suggestions. For today I researched some informations about KM Graf Spee vs FN/MN Dunkerque. Why this ships you can ask. Well, Dunkerque was designed to counter German Deutschland-class cruisers. I dont know if 1 vs 1 is fair tho...
Technology year: 1935
GERMANY:
Graf Spee:
Historical tactical and technical data:
Class and type:"Cruiser"
Displacement:
Design: 12,630 t (12,430 long tons; 13,920 short tons)
Full load: 14,290 long tons (14,520 t)
Installed power:54,000 PS (53,260 shp; 39,720 kW)
Propulsion: Eight MAN diesel engines Two propellers
Speed: 28 knots (52 km/h; 32 mph)
Range: 10,000 nautical miles (19,000 km; 12,000 mi) at 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph)
Complement: 30 officers 921-1,040 enlisted
Armament:
6 × 28 cm (11 in) in triple turrets
8 × 15 cm (5.9 in) in single turrets
8 × 53.3 cm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes
Armor:
main turrets: 140 mm (5.5 in)
belt: 80 mm (3.1 in)
deck: 45 mm (1.8 in)
----------------------
IN GAME:
Displacement: 16,200
Speed: 28/28.5 kn
Range: 12700km
Diesel Engines
Armour:
80mm/3.1in Main Belt [101mm/4in is minimum sadly]
45mm/1.8in Main Deck
140mm/5.5in Side Turret Armour
90-105mm/3.5-4.2in Top Turret Armour
Advanced Armored Cruiser I
Triangular Tower VI
Small Sec Tower V
Funnel Station Standard/Large
2x3 279mm/11in guns
2x2 127mm/5in gun [no space for 152mm/6in guns]
2x4 533mm/21in torps
----------------------
FRANCE:
Dunkerque:
Historical tactical and technical data:
Class and type: Fast battleship
Displacement
26,500 t (26,100 long tons) (standard)
35,500 t (34,900 long tons) (deep load)
Installed power: 107,500 shp (80,200 kW) 6 Indret boilers
Propulsion: 4 × screws 4 × geared steam turbines
Speed: 29.5 knots
Range:
7,850 nmi (14,540 km; 9,030 mi) at 15 knots (28 km/h; 17 mph)
2,450 nmi (4,540 km; 2,820 mi) at 28.5 knots (52.8 km/h; 32.8 mph)
Crew: 81 officers 1,300 enlisted men
Armament:
8 × 330 mm (13 in) guns
16 × 130 mm (5.1 in) DP guns
8 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns
32 × 13.2 mm (0.52 in) AA machineguns
----------------------
IN GAME:
Displacement: 35,500
Speed: 31 kn
Range: 16600km [max]
Armour:
225mm/8.85in Main Belt
115mm/4.53in Main Deck
270mm/10.63 Conning Tower
330mm/13in Side Turret Armour
Battlecruiser IV
Light Modern Tower III
Light Modern Sec Tower
Mega Funnel V
2x4 330mm/13 inch main guns
5x2 127mm/5 inch secondary guns
Wow 😯 you really went all out with this didn’t you? I’m very impressed by this, I personally would probably like this encounter.
Bismarck supposedly during sea trials managed to shoot 3 times per minute, so 23 second reload seems feasible.
Massachusetts vs Jean Bart please :)
They saw each other in real combat however Jean Bart was not completed and fought with 1 turret in port vs 2.
Now you undertsand why the AI tried to get away, the result of that calculation was "NOPE!"
We need this again but with more accurate NC fire rate and shell size.
Could we do a compromise that using the hull with correct tower and limit the used tonnage to historic data?
Kinda glad it isn’t USS Alabama after seeing the whole displacement thing. Just wouldn’t be the mighty A if the secondary tower didn’t match. It would have the same exact displacement problem which is such a disappointment. Hope the devs fix that soon bc it just isn’t an ww2 American BB without that iconic superstructure covered in guns.
As much as I love NC…. *Washington is the real GOAT* 😂
As someone who has been on the North Carolina, I'm rooting for North Carolina.
however like your last Iowa ships, the accuracy of the 16in are nerfed :(
also, the Iowas damage control was very sophisticated.
overall great vid on the best you could do
Cope
@@arturniedzwiecki2024 So you a Bismarck fanboy ?
Yeah, at the time of this recording, the 16 inch cannons were still reeling from an accuracy nerf, so any critical penetrations are a hail-mary.
15 inch cannons meanwhile, are pretty damned reliable. I've had a lot of good luck with 15 inch doubles and even singles on some meme ships I've made.
Idk how you could expect the NC to do well when you literally nerfed her to half strength.
If you have to choose between accurate layout and armor, or accurate displacement, I would go for the layout.
So even though my comment from yesterday had the most up-votes (34 vs this video's 17) I guess we're not going to see my proposed Legendary Encounter, eh?
The Battle of the Sisters:
Fusō & Yamashiro vs Nelson & Rodney /// 2v2
It's late 1941, the British Admiralty has agreed to send the HMS Nelson and HMS Rodney to the far-east to reinforce their presence instead of sending HMS Repulse and HMS Prince of Wales--the thought being that the two sister ships should compliment each other well with regards to performance and firepower. The Japanese are waiting and have set a trap--while the main strike force sent to Hawaii is commencing the raid on Pearl Harbor, the Fusō and Yamashiro have been dispatched to the Indian Ocean to blockade any reinforcements being sent via the Suez Canal. The pairs of ships both have the same maximum speed of 23 knots while their armament could also be considered a draw. It's a battle of sisters as the aging dreadnought style ships hold their ground against the advancing British treaty-built battleships.
Fusō-class battleship
Displacement
35,900 long tons (36,500 t) (full load)
Length
202.7 m (665 ft) (overall)
Beam 28.7 m (94 ft 2 in)
Installed power
24 × Miyahara water-tube boilers
40,000 shp (30,000 kW)
Propulsion 4 × shafts; 2 × steam turbine sets
Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph)
Range 8,000 nmi (15,000 km; 9,200 mi) at 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph)
Complement 1,198
Armament
6 × twin 356 mm (14 in) guns
16 × single 152 mm (6 in) guns
6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
Armor
Waterline belt 229-305 mm (9-12 in)
Deck: 32-51 mm (1.3-2.0 in)
Gun turrets: 229-279 mm (9-11 in)
Barbettes: 203-305 mm (8-12 in)
Conning tower: 351 mm (13.8 in)
Nelson-class battleship
Displacement
37,780 long tons (38,390 t) (full load)
Length 709 ft 10 in (216.4 m) o/a
Beam 106 ft (32.3 m)
Installed power
8 × Admiralty 3-drum boilers
45,000 shp (34,000 kW)
Propulsion 2 shafts; 2 geared steam turbines
Speed 23 knots (43 km/h; 26 mph)
Range 7,000 nmi (13,000 km; 8,100 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)
Complement
1,361 (flagship)
Armament
3 × triple 16 in (406 mm) guns
6 × twin 6 in (152 mm) guns
6 × single 4.7 in (120 mm) AA guns
8 × single 2 pdr (40 mm (1.6 in)) AA guns
2 × 24.5 in (622 mm) torpedo tubes
Armour
Waterline belt: 13-14 in (330-356 mm)
Deck: 3.75-6.25 in (95-159 mm)
Barbettes: 12-15 in (305-381 mm)
Gun turrets: 9-16 in (229-406 mm)
Conning tower: 12-14 in (305-356 mm)
Bulkheads: 4-12 in (102-305 mm)
I think he chooses the one that would be the most interesting, the only “Historical Encounter” he has done is The Battle of the Denmark Strait.
All the other battle have been with fictional encounters and many other people like that (including me) so I don’t know what to say.
@@DemonHunter2271 Maybe this is just me, but I hardly think the USS North Carolina vs Bismarck would be interesting. Granted, my scenario had the most likes yesterday and still wasn't selected, but I could just be a bitter and pissy sore loser. 🤷♀ I am a firm believer that two groups of two sister ships built at different times with different parameters and styles would be more interesting than the USS North Carolina vs Bismarck.
@@JtGorski00 Well I have seen him comment on other ideas saying that he likes them, so I guess the only indicator is when he comments on it so guess you’ll have to wait.
Ouch, I did not expect those results.
Hey stealth could you do roma s vs bismarck and tirpitz or any other BB i think that would be a great battle with the 3 roma class BB s against 2 or 3 ships or even the H44 super Battleship that would be great i think
Note:I hope you will finaly see this also love you vids
I can only design 1 ship of a class, so Bismarck + Tirpitz is not possible sadly.
@@Stealth17Gaming they are both rather similar...
@@Stealth17Gaming Either way it would be fun to see the roma s against bismarck class ships or anything i think
That was brutal, i did not expect Bismark to fare that well against a BB with 16'' guns.
Bismarck with its super fast reload just had many more rolls of the dice to damage something important than NC while still having enough pen. Just look at that insane RNG of damaging the B turret and conning tower back to back in the second round
bismarks secondaries were 12 5.9inch guns. i like both of these ships, but i wish they were much bigger, like the grober kurfurst or an H-44 :D
You are doing awesome videos PAL. After this one I got one idea Bismarck Vs Amagi of course Amagi was CV but originally she is BB.
Kaga was converted not amagi
Play some world of warships
Amagi was always a BB
Thank you
love your channel but kinda hampered NC with a few disadvantages.
Scenario Idea:
Atlanta vs Kitakami
yesss north carolina is my fav american battleship :D
And they loose :)
@@enricohunterIts a video game at the end of the day bud.Least the North Carolina class can be visited by anyone today without the need of sub or diving gear lol.
Can you do the Kongo vs HMS Tiger. Kongo was built in the UK by Vickers as a private contract for the Japanese. The Admiralty were so impressed by the design they changed the design of the Tiger to incorporate a lot of the ideas from the Kongo. It would be interesting to see how they would fair against each other in an "as built" configuration.
Nice video, but to be honest I was not surprised. North Carolina was build for the pacific. There you had long range Engagements. Thats why the ships had the all or nothing armor. The atlantic had total diffrent rules. There the ships engage in very close combat. Bismarck was build to brawl on short distances, that was the reason why she was build. North Carolina was build for long range fights so brawling simply was not her main job. Would be a shame if Bismarck lost a fight in a field where she is superior.
If Norca could manage to hold the distance as long as possible while shooting Bismarck from distance with all 9 guns that battle could have ended diffrent.
I have an idea for a battle. I would like to see US Navy the -class heavy cruiser vs the Soviet Project-66 large cruiser. That should be an interesting Cold War cruiser matchup.
HE seems to be the trick for most encounters when the first battle was lost
I'd love to see one more round of this where you have NC fight at range against Bismarck, instead of moving in close to brawl. Bismarck's armor scheme was designed for close-range fights in the North Sea, whereas the AON scheme on the NC might be better suited for a long-range engagement. Bismarck's deck armor scheme (using multiple layers) was considered to be sub-par when compared to a single armored deck - not sure if the game reflects this accurately. Another issue is speed - NC would need to hit Bismarck hard early on to be able to stay at range, otherwise Bismarck can close and tip the scales in her favor. Finally, as others have mentioned, the firing rate of NC is probably much closer to Bismarck's than what you currently have it at.
Good video and good matchup, overall. Keep up the great work!
still hoping for a duke of york v scharnhorst battle like the north cape
Hmmm 🤔 that sounds like a good encounter.
@@DemonHunter2271 and maybe for extra slice the Brits get Belfast and/or the other ships like Jamaica and Sheffield and the Germans get a load of DDs
@@astrangehumanbeing888 Yeah!
@@DemonHunter2271 I'm using my totally realistic and definitely existing force powers to predict this will happen soon
That would be an unfair 1v1,duke of York is much more powerful than sharnhorst.
It would still be interesting tho
Never underestimate the Bismarck at close range fight
How about USS Arizona vs HMS Royal Oak(Revenge-class battleship)? Both ships are evenly weighed.
That sounds like a good fight.
maybe give ships with light shells increased ammo in the future
I agreed, although it should be determined by the fire rate of the guns then what shells it’s using. Though now that I say that, it will still apply.
I agree that it should be a way to balance it out.
Funnily enough, Bismarck had lighter shells than that. the game put them at 820 kilograms, but Bismarck's SK C/34 15-inch guns fired 800-kilogram shells.
Can there be a fight between:
Kirov Prinz eugen
Leningrad One of the z destroyers
Soviet vs German? Now that sounds like a interesting battle as both Navy’s don’t get as much attention during WWII. I would like to see it!
The North Carolina was laid down in 1937 and completed in 1941. So you might have same as Bismarck had to set the date for the US to 1937 to get the correct towers. I don't own the game so I don't know what would be available in the 1937 US ship designer.
So my understanding is that NC is a "fast battleship", which would be a BC in game. Though idk if the US has that type of hull yet
They do. It is essentially a bit smaller Iowa hull
32:42 I hat exactly that Situation myself when i Made an Montana against a Bismarck that wasnt Upgraded that she knockt out turret After Turret
''she starts at 21 km with an erec-!?... flagjhjaheahuhagh!!'' - stealth17
The one complaint I have with the layout of the NC is that the B turret needs to be a little more forward, it had a better firing arc than what is portrayed by this design.
That's a depressing North Carolina.
Getting closer was definitely a mistake.The smaller guns will have a far better chance to pen than at long ranges and they fire faster.
So.. was that better or worse than the AI? It was faster loss but more damage on the enemy. Which matters more? :P
I say the damage.
You needed to have double the rate of fire you had on the North Carolina.
Suggestion! Battleship texas (after refit) and her sister Ship New York vs Tripiz
Dunkerque vs. Bismarck next please.
Besides the for-mentioned super heavy shells, the 30 second reload and the radar. NC also has slightly thicker deck armor 5.5in vs 5, maybe not enough to help in the fight but more correct. The Bismark also has slightly lighter shells than what you have listed. Not sure if the light shells would actually be correct on the version of UAD. I also believe the firing arcs are a little off because of the hull form. This seems to be a big issue in all the fights. One ship firing over its shoulder cant bring all guns to play.
Operation Halberd 1941
Regia Marina - Littorio Class (Vittorio Veneto)
RN - KGV Class (Prince of Wales)
I would like to see HMS Queen Elizabeth vs USS California both in there WW1 configuration ( before there modernization ) I know the California is Commissioned after the war but they are close in terms of displacement and firepower. Mabey do the battle in the 1920 time.
How many times can a main tower or funnel be destroyed?
The damage system needs work.
the all-or-nothing armor of american ships was meant to protect them from long range fire while the german turtleback armor becomes stronger at shorter ranges.
fighting a german battleship at close range is pretty much suicide.
I don't know if you know this, and I'm not hating on you, but saying "North Cal" or "South Cal" when talking about the Carolinas is uhh, well incorrect. North or South Cal actually refers to California. I would suggest if you want to shorten the title you could call it NC or SC, it's just a minor detail that my South Carolina ass was just a little stuck on😂 I love these videos though, keep up the great work!
imagine the desigber of bismarck was Stealth and then the builder changed something without Stealth knowing...
Stealth : "What the hell did you do to my Bismarck?!"
You had, note the word had, a range and throw weight advantage. Half pistol shot was not a good plan. Flank speed away and let Bismark chase you, 4 vs your 3 and then at 20 klicks turn and angel in.
American battleships of WW2 had a fire rate of 2 rounds a minute
The fact that you can miss Salvo after Salvo after Salvo at 1.5km is a problem I think. From the range you can practically boresight the ship. Those values don't make any sense.
Stealth, I wonder, does the AI act differently on different engagement ranges? So far on max range there seems to be always one ship that just wants to go home. In case you have nothing to do, does the North Carolina react different on different ranges? Does she react the same way if you repeat the same battle? (only the start of the battle is important here)
That could be the reason.
Can you do a video of this series with the Littorio? Actually it would be better to have her sistershop Roma wich had also the radar
I understand some BB's are brawlers and work best getting close, others are snipers that work best firing at a distance. So could the AI be deciding hey, based on this ship design .. I need to get close or stay distant? Or am I giving the AI too much credit lol.
Maybe both?
Nagato vs NC? or Bismark.
Can you do Tirpitz vs Yamato please
Scenario suggestion the year is 1944 you are a German admiral in command of making the largest ship in the navy because the previous ship was stolen by the pesky russians.
Displacment max:130000 tons
Tech germany 1940
enemy:US
Engagment range is 15000m
the enemy gets 2 battleships 5 light crusiers 5 destroyers 3 heavys and 10 transports you get 1 battleship and any class of your choice besides battleship.
Well,
Let’s ignore the fact that North Carolina looks...
And just focus on it being somewhat accurate in terms of stats...
The towers on the North Carolina are far worse than the Bismarck’s (Top tier towers vs old 1920’s ones...
The Iowa would have made a better North Carolina, still...
Interesting fight
Also, the Bismarck was designed for close range, so, along with the Turtleback, getting closer was probably the worst choice possible...
Historically, I’d give it to the North Carolina... as long as you don’t do anything stupid...
This needs to be redone correctly.
The 16’ gun boasts a 30s reload, for a whopping TWO rounds per minute 😭
BTW
Bismarck and Terpitz had a turtle back armor scheme, this is one area where Germany lagged behind the rest of the world because of World War I.
North Carolina vs Vittorio Veneto please
Would be faster if it was in real life for the Bismark
C is not Kaiser (did you say that? i couldnt quite catch it, sorry)
Make one of KMS Tirpitz vs king george V or north carolina plsss
Tillman IV-2 vs IJN Yamato.
Tillman IV-2? I don’t think I have heard of this ship, it sounds Russian. Is it a Soviet Battleship/Battlecruiser?
@@DemonHunter2271 look up "maximum battleship" for more info. Tillman is the senator who asked for the proposals to be drawn up.
@@TheTripleAce3 So I looked it up and this is what I understand:
It’s a US battleship class the Taillman IV-2 being apart of the class but was never built because of The Washington Naval Treaty.
I feel like it would be hard to build a ship like that though.
@@DemonHunter2271 trust me, the treaties weren't the thing that blocked the tillmans.
USS Texas vs SMS Großer Kurfürst (or any König class)
Make Gangut vs Fuso in her ww1 design
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_battleship_Gangut_(1911)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Fus%C5%8D
i think north carolina have 1 more gun then bismarck if my math is right
You can't defeat turtleback at close range. Get close to Bismarck is suicide. There's a reason why the Brits couldn't sink her. They destroyed everything on top of the ship but couldn't cause flooding.
ijn amagi vs the hood pls (i know u cant build the pocket bb sadly :/)
It didn't help that the NC whiffed at least 6 salvos in a row at 2k. At 35% accuracy, that's some terrible RNG.
"the accuracy is 69% which is very nice"
yes indeed, nice
YAY North Carolina is my home state
Anybody have any idea why the AI chooses to run in these duals.
AI just being AI?
@@DemonHunter2271 fair enough.
I have been on the north cariana
I really think that the Americans are cursed in this game. AI is stupid as hell. I don't think that I have seen a single American ship win AI v AI. It is really a hard pill to swallow that the most powerful navy at the end of WW2 cannot seem to win a single battle in this series. Oh well just a game.
that's weird i made a good n.carolina.
USS Nebraska 👀
YEAH!!!!
Edit: NOOOOOOO
Sad that my baby girl is nerfed but excited to see this anyway