EVs are 'not economically viable' and 'can't last the distance'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- Geologist Ian Plimer discusses the economically unviable electric vehicles.
This follows an announcement from car manufacturer Toyota, who are unsure about producing electric vehicles.
“Toyota’s the biggest car maker in the world,” Mr Plimer told Sky News host Rita Panahi.
“Other car makers have seen the light; for example, Mercedes Benz has said no, we’re giving up on EVs.
“They’re just not economically viable, they can’t last the distance, they don’t have the resale value.
“Unless you have subsidised EVs, people are not going to buy them.”
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God MGUY is a complete knob - never owned an ev, no first hand experience, somehow knows everything about the subject...
@@TB-up4xi simple math must not be your strong suit.
stick to your denial of common sense
@@TB-up4xi Please explain how he is wrong and why.
@@TB-up4xi Everything BAD, anything positive never gets a mention as his subscriber base is aimed at the descendants of the Neanderthals. EV's make them beat their chests and run in circles shouting. MGUY has monetised ignorance.
Nobody I know has ANY of the charging problems MGUY claims are typical. He spreads misinformation which is gleefully lapped up buy his poorly informed subscriber base.
I think it's always bad policy when you're giving wealthy people tax credits. Taxation should be the exact opposite.
You cant give poor people tax credits, they dont pay any tax.
What tax breaks?
Oh I see, so the more you produce the more you generate the more you are successful the more you endeavour the more you are penalised the more you are punished and if you are a bum we should give a tax break on the money you don’t have … I love your logic
I think you’ll find wealthy people get tax debits. Half the country pays no tax at all. Top 10% pay 46% of all income tax. Just a little appreciation occasionally would be nice for funding defence, aged care, health system, unemployed…… etc. etc..
Batteries are storage for a few hours,we need power stations that make electricity,this country is in big trouble under this green ideology.No electricity no charging EVs, good luck.
Solar, wind, hypro, tidal, geo all forms of power generation that don't make C02.
Batteries or other storage methods to hold the Excess power till needed.
there are 60 ICE fies for every EV fire - and you are pathetic.
@@Aaronwhatnowtidal, tried and failed here. Geothermal, we don't have the geology for that. Hydro, we have far too few rivers, which in any case are needed to maintain delicate ecosystems. Solar and wind, far too intermittent and require huge tracts of land
@@Aaronwhatnow Nuclear doesn't produce CO2 either and it generates power stably and reliably over 95% of the time. Not the unreliable and unstable 25-30% of the time you get from wind/solar.
@@Aaronwhatnowbut require carbon based fuel and hydrocarbons in their manufacture
Here in NZ last week the government told us to conserve power due to a cold snap hitting the South Island and they would be sort of power. Hmmm I wonder why !!! Maybe because Heat pumps use all the power trying to stop people from freezing due to council telling people to get rid of fire places, and to add to the pressure everyone is also trying to charge their EV's. Full Electric car are not even close to taking over the car industry until they can come up with a battery that has a far longer life expectancy, but at the stage they are miles Off. So many people that got on the EV wagon have since traded their electrics in and gone back to gas.
Old news. Toyota had doubts months ago !!!!!!
Honda too
Ford & Mercedes too. And Lamborghini as well.
I think Toyota is speaking with 2 tongues. I live in Thailand and the Bangkok post just had an article about Toyota testing the EV on a Toyota Hillux before manufacturing by the end of 2025!!!
Bowen should take that battery and give himself a labotamy
Or power himself up where the sun don't shine
I despise how this government will waste everything, to achieve an unobtainable goal. They’ll build community batteries, but they won’t subsidise home batteries… they’ll allow more private solar farms from overseas, but the won’t subsidise solar… they’ll fork out for energy bill relief, but they won’t fix solar feed-in tariffs… they’ll even risk grid stability, but they won’t build any new gas generators.
Seems they’re willing to do anything to protect the energy generators profits… but nothing cost effective, that will also help the consumers!! It’s almost like they’re scared of Australians with solar/battery becoming a powerhouse and destabilising the energy market!?🤔😎
Spot on
Don't waste time or money on EVs', they're unreliable, expensive, and good luck sharing the charge bays 🤣🤣🤣 meanwhile Al-pinocchio, would-be-master-zinger Bowen and co get around in huge jets, what a joke 🤣🤣🤣
Agree Sir👍🏽
@@whiskeygamer9402thank you 👍✅
Unreliable? Maybe in 100 years. Expensive? Cheaper than VW Golf. Carge bays? I got 3 @ home. Does your fossil oldtimer 0-100 in under 5 seconds and have 450 HP. Mine do.
@@wolfgangpreier9160I'm still driving my early 2000's xtrail car that's just clocked a touch 480000 km, I'll put that against any unreliable, overrated, expensive EV , and no fire trap or battery explosion issues either 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@user-zd3xs4ts6f Maybe you can do this in down under, here in Europe we have laws and regulations that prevent such long time running cars - mostly.
Why are EV overrated?
Why are they unreliable?
Why do you think they have more battery issues than your burning fossil monster from 2000?
Actually fossil cars burn 40 times - that is fourty times - more than fossil cars.
Ask you local insurance company if you don't believe me.
Actually EVs are 3 times less prone to defects on the road - and 90% of those defects come from the 12 V lead acid battery many cars still have.
Those numbers are from the ADAC the biggest automobile club in Germany.
So Mister User - please tell me why you think EVs are unreliable when all numbers tell you the are not.
Please Mr User tell me why you thin batteries are more explosion prone when all numbers on the whole wide wolrd tell you they are most certainly not.
No i do not laugh about you. I pity you that you so easily fall for the lies of your fossil lobby.
I got my EVs since 2019 - before that there were no products available for companies.
A total of 7 EVs with over 300.000km with one single issue inside the warranty. One of three phases of a charger did not work as intended.
Maintenance only for Peugeot Skoda and Fiat - the old fashioned OEMs. Nothing to do for all Teslas.
Please Mr. user how long you can drive between maintenance appointments. My Teslas go for 3 years before they have to go to the state mandated checkups. No matter how many miles or Kilometer.
EV’s fit into a narrow group of people with money to spend !
Not all of us have that luxury !
And have space to charge their likely second or third car at home.
And for the suicidal , EV'S are almost perfect , I would suggest buying a Chinese EV.......combustion rates seem quite high.
Even if I did have the $$$, I still wouldn't buy one of those death traps🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@videofreak6047China is far better than they used to be with quality !
Wait ! They will build very cheap EV's for you (with a ridiculous range)! So, don't worry ;)
Renewables: not clean, not green, not zero, not reliable, not renewable, not recyclable, not cheap, not reducing global temperatures.
The common Loon isn't ONLY a bird. There's a human form too apparently. Mercedes wants to buy a Chinese EV company and save billions over doing it wrong themselves. Experienced EV engineers are found in China or at Tesla, everyone else is learning as they go. The ICE age IS over.
It is brilliant technology, but it was created as a supplement, and as a means to service limited areas.
How to limit people's freedom of movement?
You alter their choices of transport and power.
Still love the movie "Hunger Games" ?
We've been taught to admire those who hate us.
Brilliant ? Hmmm , I dunno mate , electric motors have been around for donkeys ages as have been batteries.
Battery cars have a bunch of problems that stem from the fact , the batteries operate by a chemical reaction, and in ideal conditions they do the job adequately, but as soon as you take them out of ideal conditions, they falter very quickly.
If the weather turns bad and you have extra items like the heater , the wipers , the demister , the extra friction of the tyres pushing through puddles, it all takes from the vehicles range , if you put a load of family in the vehicle, again, it takes from the range .
A perfect example of EVs faltering under load is a towing test , the instant you put an electric car under load it becomes an energy hog, recently a tow test was done with the Tesla cyber truck towing a caravan, it managed an utterly abysmal 90 miles if I remember correctly , and this is an electric vehicle with an absolutely massive battery, a comparable internal combustion engine truck or car would easily double the range and possibly better that .
And two things to remember here , that was a new cyber truck with a new battery , that battery over time will degrade and with it the already poor battery range .
The other problem with putting ever bigger batteries in electric cars , is firstly they cost a fortune , secondly they are heavy as hell.
If we take probably the truck on the market with the longest battery range and most gigantic battery, it actually has a decent range for a big pick up , but such is its weight, that the vehicles carrying capacity is now much less than many comparable cheaper vehicles.
The other elephant in the room is, if the vehicle is a workhorse that gets punished every day , how long is that hugely expensive massive battery going to last. ?
The funny part is, the fan boys say , oh yea you can do 0 to 60 in 2.0 seconds 😂, which sounds like a lot of fun if you are going to drive like a ratbag , but EVs by the very nature of their design with an electric motor and battery have very poor stamina as soon as you take them out of ideal conditions.
shouldnt one research a subject before forming an opinion or discussing it? whatever you think of ev's the inaccuracies in this piece are shocking. (pun intended) a very sad example of the state of todays journalism.
Cobalt is used to remove Sulfur when refining oil, ALL INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE CARS ARE COBALT CARS.
Except that the grade of cobalt used in fuel refining is 98% derived as a by product of Copper and Nickel mining.
What will house insurance cost if you have to tell them an EV is in the garage. There's been a lot of EV fires.
No there hasn't. There's been 4 in Australia in the last 5 years.
vailable data indicate the fire risk is between 20 and 80 times greater for petrol and diesel vehicles
@@scottdavies3582 That's because there is 100 times more petrol cars than EV's, Also the data is flawed because most of the fires included are from car theft where the vehicles gets burnt out after use.
Don’t let the facts get in the way of your story.
What “viable data”
Very disappointed. Pure FUD.
Why. What have they got wrong?
@@romanpolanski4928 What they've got wrong is being senile half-brained dinosaurs.
@@romanpolanski4928 The guest, Ian Plimer, is a Geologist and so he is a layman on batteries. Community batteries have multiple purposes. If they are small then there purpose is to smooth the power supply before it switches to another source (avoiding brown outs). If they are larger then they are intended to store excess energy, likely sourced from renewables, as a cheap power source. If they only provide "5 minutes" then the battery storage is too small!
He says if he did a car journey of 600 miles in an EV it would take 3 days longer and likely burst into flames! Most EVs have ranges in excess of 300 miles, similar to an ICE car. Cars bursting into fire is a myth propagated by legacy automakers unable to compete in the EV market. Statistics show that EVs are an order of magnitude less likely to catch fire than an ICE vehicle. A hybrid is an order of magnitude more likely to catch fire than an ICE vehicle. These statics are readily available from a web browser.
@@romanpolanski4928 everything. battery cost, longevity and range especially. no mention of the best selling car in the world being a tesla. i could go on...
@@romanpolanski4928 - If you are interested in the truth (about any subject, not just EVs and batteries), do some basic research. Look up EV range. Look up charging speeds. Look up how much of the grid is not supported by batteries in Australia, California, Europe.
With regard to EV distance and milage, research the range - many EVs have ranges that are very close to 600 km. Those that don't like the one I own (which I purchased WITHOUT INCENTIVES), often have ranges around 417 km. It would not take me 3 days to travel 600 km, I would have to stop for about 20 minutes to charge (and I have a slow charging EV) - 20 minutes, that's it.
Research resale values in the US and Europe for EVs. They are NOT dropping through the floor. Research global sales for EVs, they are not dropping through the floor.
You should not have to ask me what they have wrong, you can easily find out for your self.
I hate to sound dismissive of you question, but, honestly, how can people believe the rubbish these people are spewing!!
SKY is where you go if you failed journalism.
No agenda here!!
What we are going to see in the future is EV owners paying car dealers to take their "trade-in". That is because the cars will have no residual value but will be subject to disposal costs. The cost of recycling the batteries will be greater than the value of materials recovered. This lack of low-cost trades will mean the poor will lose independent transport because EVs are too expensive when they still have a useful life remaining. This lack of independence for the poor will have major social consequences. Not that Bowen cares. He has never been poor.
You don’t recycle an EV battery. You repurpose it. An EV battery can be used as a house battery for 20yrs after its useful life as an EV battery.
@jerrymyahzcat that is an Elon Musk claim. We are almost 20 years short of seeing if that is true.
@@jerrymyahzcat- Good luck getting 10% of a battery's capacity at 20 years. Wear and tear will guarantee that regardless of the tech used in current lithium cells.
Didn't we learn this 100 years ago?
After 12 years of EVs I can tell you Gas is dead. Three hundred miles is plenty much for me in one drive.
You can't fix stupid?
Check out the number of huge grid storage batteries that have spectacularly burnt out in USA in last few years...
So when the lights go out they will have 7 minutes exactly! Plimer tells it like it is 😂😅
FYI to any communities, batteries are extremely off the chart expensive in the sizes needed for this and only will last hours...in the actual event they are needed...
Nissan also announced they are pulling back on EV, they have told parts suppliers in USA to stop work on parts for Nissan EV.
'the biggest car maker in the world cant possibly get it wrong' hahahahahahaha
Five minutes?? That's great!! Just enough time flush the toilet.
Emergency services will love it keeps thier station on while the world crumbles around them.
I wouldn't waste my money on those EV death traps🔥☠️
Available data indicate the fire risk is between 20 and 80 times greater for petrol and diesel vehicles.
@@scottdavies3582 So what are the ages of vehicles, causes and end effects of them?
Such a dumb argument.
Even if I was a Green politician, I would never buy an overrated and expensive EV🤣🤣✅👍🐘
@@scottdavies3582What the available data doesn’t distinguish, is that all EV’s are essentially
@@scottdavies3582the “available data” being data that includes fires caused by stolen cars being torched. Unless you can link your data set and it’s not that one that gets rolled out every time.
Barry Humphries 2.0
could not appear to know less.
That's great for dry climate riding. But most of the population lives in areas where there's rain, wind and cold much of the year. At the least the manufacturer could add fenders.
"A 600km trip would have taken three days with an EV." If it takes you more than 8h, you are either not trying very much, picked a particularly horrible EV to road trip on or the route you picked had horrible chargers. I'd probably be able to cover that distance in about 8h in a Bolt EV which is one of the worst EVs for longer trip with its pathetic ~40kW average charging speed to 60% which drops down to an even more pathetic 20kW by 70%. ~2.5h driving on the initial at-home/work L1/2 charge to 80+%, ~40min charging, ~2h driving, ~40min charging, ~2h driving. There you go, 600km in 8h even with one of the crappiest roadtrip EVs on the market.
Given the choice though, I wouldn't want to roadtrip an EV that charges slower than 100kW to 80%.
B E Vs can play a small part in a transport mix, they are not a viable alternative to internal combustion engines.
I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma V6 It gets 23mpg and will go over 400 miles on a tank of gas.
That's not the only thing that rolled out but digital ID pretty scary Australia
The EU expects member states will invest over US$600 billion in making the electricity grid renewables and EV capable by 2030 with increased spending thereafter. Lunacy.
I don't know about the biggest carmaker in the world not getting it wrong.
General Motors used to be the biggest, and they laughed at Japanese cars.
The entire British motorcycle industry laughed at Honda....
A Tesla battery unit replacement will cost you $22000.00, and that's just the start.
And yes you will have to replace it.
Like all batteries, they have a limited charge lifespan.
The dealership won't tell you that.
How about EV makers stop trying to make 300% profit on replacement batteries
Running two EVs and my house and the power company is paying me! All for cheaper than a bathroom reno. The most indebted company in world Toyota are going to go broke with Nickle iodine batteries
Very inaccurate
Im very opposed to ev mandates and govt subsidies. If companies want to voluntarily make them and people voluntarily buy them thats totally fine.
Why not just swap to alcohol for fuel. It´s not fossil fuel, it´s renewable. We can keep reliable car technology and we allready have the infrastructure for providing liquid fuels.
Brilliant!
FUD
Why does all the news hate on EV’s and batteries
Perhaps because they are garbage?
Because they are funded indirectly by oil companies
Well....plainly speaking...they are shit.
Maybe because of the declining popularity?
EVs remain a pipe dream. They're not viable for most circumstances, and we do not have the infrastructure to support _EV_ infrastructure. As in, we cannot supply the electricity required to make EVs practical.
It's just not physically possible.
Add in that we know EV shills are lying through their teeth, and it's abundantly clear that EV advocates deserve public humiliation and mockery.
They're even worse than the gender weirdos that demand everybody use their wacky-ass pronouns, because those weirdos are only hurting themselves. EV mandates harm society and the planet.
Tesla Semi
Charging with electricity is approximately 2.5 times cheaper per mile than refueling with diesel.¹ Operators can see estimated fuel savings of up to $200,000 within their first three years of ownership.
It's unaffordable and impractical, especially for owner/operators and small businesses.
And we _really do not have_ the electricity capacity to support EVs. Nor are governments prepared to build the necessary infrastructure. They're planning to power EVs with wishful thinking and unicorn farts.
You are asking an old man that came from WWI... Come on Sky News!
How arrogant of a species are we are we are, when we can control mother nature
Bring back the real Toyota CEO who did it right. They’ve lost “kaizin”. MB were bowing to political pressure for EVs at the consumers expense, now that it hits the pocketbook, they’re rolling the narrative back. Typical , we must not support these people.
I've got nothing against EVs in general. I love seeing technological progress. What I don't like is when government distorts the market by choosing winners and losers, this has never worked. Toyota is very smart, they were the most prepared when the pandemic hit, they didn't cancel their chip orders like every other manufacturer and continued selling vehicles while nearly everyone else had to remove features or wait years. Toyota knows EVs aren't quite there yet. Let EVs come to the market on their own, let the market choose, when the tech is ready I think they will be amazing. The cool thing about tech is there are always enthusiast pressing the cutting edge. Let them drive the market as they've always done and government stand aside.
Reliable and cheap electricity? Maybe, but for how long?
Why is nobody asking these politicians what is going to replace 'fuel duty'?
In the UK (as of 20th May 2024) the UK fuel duty is 52.2p per litre on petrol and 50.65p per litre for diesel. If they succeed in forcing everybody into EVs where is that revenue stream going to come from? They'll start adding 'fuel duty' to electricity. That will be easy 'at the pump' as it were, adding the fuel duty to public charging stations but what about the people fortunate enough to be able to 'fuel' at home? I can't see ANY government allowing that to happen, and as a home charger is supplied through the main fusebox (hence meter) they will be claiming that 'fuel duty' on every piece of electrical equipment you have in your homes. So if you use lighting? Fuel duty! Electric fires or stoves? Fuel duty! Charge your phone? Fuel duty!, Use your computer? Fuel duty! Watch TV? Fuel duty!
It will come, and everyone defending EVs is compliant in this farrago.
I always love tuning in to hear an old fart rail against new tech.
Lots of bad information in this piece.
1. The Tesla megapack in Australia paid for itself in about 2.5 years by putting energy in when it is expensive and taking it out when it is cheap. All the while stabilizing the grid and moderating the cost for consumers. Where in Australia is power the cheapest? Where there is the most renewables. We as consumers can also benefit from this system by having a home battery and buying and selling into the market, along with solar panels. If you have time of use billing, then one can pay for your system relatively quickly. First movers will make the most. Eventually the electricity market will look nothing like it is now.
Businesses on the right and left want you dependent so they can extract money from you. Here is one area where a degree of push back against the system is possible. Independence is a conservative value.
2. EVs are mostly very good cars. Aside from the leafs (lack thermal management), batteries have lasted a long time, and are getting better with time. Our family replaced an aging Tuscon that was burning oil with a model Y. The Y is a joy to drive. We live in the country and we save lots on gas. Its our go to car only driving the truck when absolutely necessary. We drive our cars until they are no longer driveable and we expect to have this car a long long time. The safety features are superb and we expect the probability of us getting hit by a driver without them is much higher than us hitting them. For road trips, charging is fast with stops coinciding well with bathroom breaks. Its very convenient to charge at home. I expect battery prices to fall long term (as they have historically) and evs should be getting more inexpensive and in the event one needs a new battery, it should be cheaper and better than is currently the case. We will be replacing the aging work truck with electric in a few years.
3. Yes we need to be careful about the advice of "experts". Covid did teach us that. However there are lots of reasons to reduce dependence on oil and gas. First is reducing money flows to awful governments like Russia and Saudi Arabia. The second is overall air quality in our cites. Third, i have been moving away from gas chainsaws and other machinery because when I use it, I smell myself off gassing for a day. It can't be good for me. We also know that oil and gas reserves are not infinite. We will have to transition to other sources eventually. Finally, I am uneasy about changing the composition of our atmosphere. If we want a degree of stability, then we should be very careful about altering it. I think climate change is a thing, but I also worry about poorly executed, poorly thought out plans by government.
Nice contribution LeRoy. The old fart is just shoring up the base.
The scam is getting exposed.
Dont worry the next one in already in place: hydrogen
@@esbi3825
Hydrogen was 20 years ago.
DEI is what you advocate if you're second-rate.
EVs, for people who don't really drive.
What is not economy viable is traditional car companies using traditional methods to build electric cars. So much BS talked in this episode. For example, cobalt is used in the petrochemical industry to remove sulphur. This is not recyclable, unlike the metals used in a battery where over 95% is reclaimed making old batteries a more economic source then mining.
We need more children!
Community batteries .... blackouts ...... suburban meet and greet and and and ..... problem solved
How about an EV jet for Bowen?
Get Boeing to make it so the doors or wing comes off in flight!
Bowen himself could power the jet plane with all the hot air spewing out of his mouth and ears 👂 🌬️😂😂😂😂😂
No matter what improvements are made to battery charging times, it can never work as halving charge time requires at least double the power supply to the charging station, or even bigger on site batteries to compensate for limited grid power. Who is going to pay for that?
How's a Geologist the expert on renewable energy and electric batteries? 🤔
Maybe invite the fossil to talk about to talk about geothermal energy. He *might* now something about that.
FUD
Toyota has been against BEVs for years, while saying they have the best new batteries for years.
Amazing that the best selling car in 2023 was an EV.
3 days in an EV to go 600km. Bull$hit.
So much FUD.
Don’t get me started on the Cobalt comment. Yes child mining for Cobalt is horrible. Over 50% of EVs sold in 2023 had no Cobalt. Every single litre of fuel needs cobalt. So if you are really against mining you would get an EV with the right battery. But you aren’t against mining, you just want a talking point.
It is sad for me that people on the right, like me, are against BEVs without knowing what the facts are.
What drugs are you on?
Green energy = Soylent Green.
Toyota make great cars. They don't make great EVs, that's why they are not selling. They are losing money on every EV, because of R&D costs.
All of Tesla's 1.8M vehicles produced in 2023 were EVs, while Toyota only produced a measly 25K, or 1.4% of the EV quantity relative to Tesla. The rest were ICE (Internal Combustion Engines) and Hybrid. In 2023, Toyota produced a record 11.2 million units of 93(!) model types globally.22 Apr 2024.
Toyota isn't making EVs because they don't see a future for them. No point in long term investment in what is really just a fad.
Tesla themselves are a fluke - they're the _only_ company making a profit on EVs. Every other EV manufacturer is operating at a loss, either covering with ICE sales or living off outside investment.
Nor was Tesla's growth sustainable. Their sales are down about 15% Q1 year-over-year, and they're desperately looking to expand their marketbase with "economy" cars in the near future.
What about Australia’s Fuel supply and storage?
We could be in big trouble if supply gets cut, hardly any Refineries left
Talk about that too
We’d last about 2 weeks. EV’s make us more energy independent. These conservative nutbags have no idea.
We're paying for junk! Maybe the Americans are right. Jack Smith called us "lame & stupid"
Depends on use case for the user. For long distances I prefer riding a motorcycle however for short trips picking up stuff I use my 13 year old Nissan Leaf I bought back in 2011 and has been a big saver in cost for me (btw: I'm still on my original battery).
Soy is in a huge amount of plastic now ....... mice of rats can eat many bits of a car, this includes wires in most cars,....a mouse can cost you $thousands at the Auto Electricians.
We used to call rubbish useless short lived things A FLASH IN THE PAN more than some relevance to Albo and Bowens dystopia
You guys have no idea.
These two are so clueless.
Dirty , noisy , too maintenane ICE vehicles
But less than a combustion engine over its life time.
@Aaronwhatnow no shit, an ev's lifetime is a fraction of a ICE vehicle
More expensive, Explosive fire hazard from EV's take your pick!
I'll stick with cheaper I.C.E. cars.
Every time I see an EV I think
💭 🤔
What a wanker 😎👍
Try again in English.
Silly is as silly does.
Wonder where thier gonna get electricity from ,cuz it's gonna take alot of juice
This is just FUD, it's too late
😂😂😂Yeah right.
We know you have to say this for your sponsors, but it's useless, the battle is over
California is into renewables and batteries in a big way. The current - real time - electricity source data show imports from surrounding states making up 32.8% of demand, wind 25.1%,, large hydro 19.9%, nuclear 7.3%, natural gas 7.2%, plus assorted minor sources. The multi-billion dollar batteries are contributing 0%. No wonder California has some of the highest priced electricity on the planet. That's what's in store for Oz.
contributing 0% what are you talking about got any facts?Working well for south Australia
@@scottdavies3582 Live data shows SA generating 1,135 MW from gas, 723MW from wind and 0MW from batteries.
@@snappingclam8801 Tesla Big Battery in South Australia Earns Huge Profits, Pays for Itself in 2.5 Years.i'm aware batteries don't make power
@@scottdavies3582 According to whom?
@@snappingclam8801 Elon Musk
They make very impressive fires.
Next time I drive my Tesla M3 from Melbourne to the Flinders ranges in one day, I'll try to remember than it's supposed to take 3 days to charge. Total cost of servicing over two years has been about $150... and that was to rotate tyres and get it cleaned. This guy probably stuck with whale oil lamps because he thought electricity will leak out of the socket.
2 years and no new tyres?
@@DeanandLisa1803 35K kms... still got plenty of meat on them
Interesting points, what about our cell phones? Doesn’t everyone get fed up paying $1000+ for a new cell phone, that only lasts 3~5 minutes of real world usage before it needs to be uninterruptedly charged for 24 to 48 hours? Not to mention the $500 monthly battery replacement cost! 😂😂😂
No, Apple loyalists are a cult.
@@garyballard179😂😂😂 I was referring to our Android phones, but that’s okay 😉
@stevemit2858
Um, my android phone cost $160, and the battery lasts 48 hours on a two hour charge.
And they don't replace batteries. They haven't done that in ten years.
@@garyballard179Omg, to clarify, my comment was meant as exaggerated sarcasm. Just as this so called “news piece” is. I started laughing about it at first and then thought, would people actually take it seriously?!? Hence my version of the same article 😊.
@@stevemit2858
So, you're just a dumbass...
You're better than this Rita. Don't follow the clowns down the EV hate path... it's about superior engineering, not ideology.
Don’t agree with a lot of this, we should be aiming to reduce emissions if not only to stop pollution. And advancing EV technology can play a part in this. These early iterations are a bit hit and miss, I feel there a lot of companies just domain sitting till they can invent the correct battery they solves the range and safety issues. And of course there’s Tesla hoping they can be the first to usher in the autonomous driving age. I do believe there will be a disruption in the automotive and energy economy that will shift the way it currently functions, but ultimately this change should be in the benefit of the majority of people in my opinion with greater decentralised energy demands
Toyota has been pushing hydrogen for years and so completely missed the boat on battery-electrics. Hydrogen fuel cells are even more economically insane than batteries.
Its strange you don't hear anything good about EVs except from those that can afford a Tesla.
Btw an enter level one cost roundabout 50k in the UK which isn't affordable for most people.
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Hilarious. This has probably been produced by the pro-EV lobby because it is so easy to pick apart. Come on Sky you can scare people about EVs and batteries better than this.
I have just seen a press release saying thst Toyota have developed an ev that will go a distance of over 700 miles. Who do you believe? This guy Ian Pilmer is so biast. He qoutes a 600 km trip he did abd says it would have taken an ev 4 days. Even if an ev could only manage 200 km, mos ev's will charge in 30 to 40 minutes, so 😮2 stops and then a charge on reaching the destination. Sky should be ashamed if itself putting a shiw on which is so unjustly biased against ev's. Sure, give a personal opinion on Ev's but dont exaggerate and balance the interview with an expert on electric cars.
EVs are the next LPG vehicles..way the way of the DODO....absolute garbage...!!!
Generally I like your channel's anti Lefty views but this anti EV/battery thing was stupid. It was all wrong.
Do your research instead of trying to pander...
Explain how it was all wrong please
The hype is over🫠🫠🫠🫠
Fossil. Yes, thats over.
EV's are due to their high weight difficult to pit-stop and ideal for ram-piercing massive structures in front of protection-worthy areas as markets, sports events, you name it. The distinguished error ist drives green!
Oh! Their talking about the🔥🔥🔥 show again!!
Diesel 4X4 till the day I die!! Booyah!!!
Tesla would disagree with that dumb assessment. best-selling car in the world. huge supercharger network. full self-driving almost perfected. so stop talking nonsense.
Boomer batteries vs. Boomer housing.
Drill Baby Drill ! , Drill Baby Drill !, Drill Baby Drill ! Deep Horizon 2 Oops .
Batteries are not "green". They have a limited lifespan, extremely limited capacity and cannot economically be recycled at this point.
Hmmm, same can be said for petrol (gasoline). Petrol is not green, has a limited lifetime usage, extremely limited capacity of at best 35mpg (but most often less than that) and cannot be economical recycled back into petrol.
@@stevemit2858 _extremely limited capacity of at best 35mpg_
lol. My Mazda gets 50 MPG giving me a range of over 600 miles, and it can be refilled in 2-3 minutes.
And it doesn't need to be recycled (and most EV batteries are not recycled)
EVs are interesting technology, but the current technology is a dead end. Maybe by 2050 or 2060 they''ll be ready for general use. But now, they're for people who just drive into town to pick up some bread and sandwich meat.
@@teekay_1 Wow, you have Mazda that can actually do 50MPG, that’s amazing! Guessing it’s a Mazda 3? Still, not sure what point you’re trying to make.
My point was that your original statement is a classic case of “the pot calling the kettle black”. Petrol is not green, is use only once and definitely and not even remotely recyclable after use!
I’m not trying to promote electric vehicles nor advocate batteries as being green, but please stop spreading misinformation regarding this topic. Your original post is clearly false!
@@stevemit2858 The point is EVs:
* Are not better for the environment (in fact their environmental impacts are worse)
* Are not cheaper than normal cars
* Have significantly less range
* Take an order of magnitude more time to to refuel
* Struggle in the cold
* Are for people who want to commute to work in a nearby town or city.
The market has spoken. EV sales are down. Automakers are slowly getting rid of EV models, Tesla is in serious trouble.
And it's highly likely all federal incentives will go away in 2025.
@@teekay_1 I see we’ve switched topic from batteries to EV’s!
While I concede that most EV’s initial cost is more than base model sedans in the short term, the cost of fuelling those base model sedans eventually evens out the cost.
I will also concede that on long road trips, the time to charge an EV does take significantly longer than fuelling a gas car. But, following the national average, the vast majority of driving is less than 50 miles daily. Most EV’s are capable of 200+ miles per charge. Also, for your daily commute and unless you live next door to a fuelling station, you need to include the time it takes to get to a station fuel up and back. Then calculate how much overall time it took and see how much idle time you spent fuelling each year, I know I was shocked that I had spent an average of 5+ hours at gas stations to fuel my car each year. I know you’ll say “oh I stop by on my way home” or some other such nonsense, but even detours consume time! Compare that to driving directly home and taking maybe 30 seconds (or less) to plug in overnight, which provides you with a “full tank” while asleep, ready for the next day!
Regarding cold performance, where I am located, we experience winter temperatures that average between -8 to -35 Celsius for several months. Most gas cars need an electric block heater to keep them warm or risk not starting due to the oil being thick like molasses,preventing the car from starting. I have yet to see a single EV unable to start up and drive under these exact same frigid conditions.
Please do a bit of research and google government and other reputable websites for details on EV sales stats, performance, durability and recycling before commenting or posting. Reading or listening to propaganda pieces and regurgitating the same false narrative back as truth lowers your credibility.
Sooo... all my comments with facts proving this clown wrong are deleted... so far to censorship, shame on you!
Although I share a negative sentiment about EVs, the exaggerations of the guest are just insane: it wouldn't have taken 3 days to do 600 km in an EV, but maybe a couple of hours (2 or 3 times 45 minutes to an hour each) more than in an ICE. Same for the neighbourhood battery system, depending on the configuration and the number of houses connected, it can provide way more than a few minutes of electricity.
We don't need to be unhinged like the EVangelists otherwise we won't be taken seriously.
Too late, I already don't take this guy seriously. More than that, he's lying to you and completely devoid of integrity. I just did a 450 km trip, 900 km total, in my Tesla Model Y and I had to stop for 20 minutes to charge each way. This after 3 1/2 hours of straight driving. During these 20 minutes I ate and peed, things I would have had to do in any car, so no real loss of time. Home and destination charging helped, as did my long range battery. But I could have also easily made this trip with most EV cars on the market today.
Wait till you have to replace that battery prematurely from all that supercharging. That will be fun
@@CrawfishCuban Statistically there’s less than a half a percent chance of battery failure. And if it does happen, it will almost surely be covered under the warranty. Sorry you've been scared pantsless by anti-EV disinformation and have denied yourself the immense pleasure and savings of a modern EV. That's no way to live your life. Oh and recent studies have shown that batteries don't much care how they are charged; they stay robust for 10-15 years, at least, no matter how they get their electrons. So there goes another EV myth down your toilet.
@Tom-dt4ic
Evidence proves you wrong.
But sure, bullshit yourself all you want.
But don't expect us to believe you.
@@Tom-dt4ic any link to the study pls? I 'm a legit ev potential buyer trying to assure myself one last time
We need the model t of ev
A few minutes? where has he been? Likewise Toyoda, of Toyota, who for years has railed against E.V'S SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT TO BUILD THEM! He makes more money out of ICE tech in a car... Also, this interview is a negative pile of rubbish. I have never heard such neg. rubbish.
The future is EV. Tesla’s are the safest, cheapest (considering overall cost of comparison), fastest, reliable, minimal maintained, wake up every day with a full charge, efficient and with full self driving around the corner, you can decide for yourself if you want a “dumb phone” or a “smart phone.”
EVs are done. The tech is not there and no one wants them.
Always depend on Sky Oz to dish up nonsensical propoganda,
No, the _government_ does that.