I would be like "ehh ok" for 1 exact frame rop covering dark... but 2 is a red flag lol. I've had really bs things happen and I've also done some bs shit... like I fat fingered kick on rogue and it happened to kick a spell as soon as they started to cast lol best kick of my life (doubt the spell kick mattered but it's great)
@@TehSlaw its a kickbot .. if u seen it u wouldn't question it. Cheating is extremely common. Every lobby I play in, every person has multi rank 1 titles..I see people like hansol.... Pikaboo..... All the top guys.. I see what fast kicks look like... N I see what kickbot looks like... It's extremely obvious Btw I'm not just saying someone kicks once b4 a bolt goes out n I accuse them of kickbot. Once that happens I pay closer attention to their kicks cuz its extremely suspicious. THEN I confirm they are kickbotting.
a SV hunter in our guild just got banned for botting 94% parses on mythic kills. lol came clean after the ban couldn't believe it. worst part is how he bragged every kill about how good of a parse it was.
Why did he have to be a SV? Also, as a SV I'll just say it isn't hard to parse high as a SV. Your parse is a comparison against others playing your spec. There just aren't that many people playing SV. It is truly sad that we are competing against bots.
Sad thing is that above 1800, like lot of people use cheats to gain ratting, not just healers and when you run into a lobby that's full of them -60 blizz needs to fix this.
Been that way since SL's mayeb before but I didnt arena in BFA so (shrug). At 1800 one would encounter scripting a ton when reacing that thresh hold or tier. Definitely hurt the game.
That is just crazy. Why would you pay for a game, pay for a sub, and then pay a sub to a bot service that cost more than the sub price? I admit I pay for Raidbot to get faster sims but I heard the auto bot for interrupts and other mechanics is almost $30 a month. No way can that be worth it. Who are you paying that for? Who made you feel so bad that you thought $30 a month would help your self-esteem.
@@overdrive112 Like average but with ratings inflation you never know 1800 might feel like old 2k or even more.Althou as someone who is around 1800-1950 since legion i dont find it more difficult than before.If we re talking soloque im way more frustrated with que times and that kinda made me stop playing retail.
so wait he rop'd his own teammates darkness? is that what happened in the second clip? or was he ropping something else? Thats actually hilarious he got the walmart dollar store bot roping his own team bruh
I feel this is only the beginning, we will see more and more occurrences and also more sophisticated botting in the future. I already saw kick bots, now this one. Trinket blind ones i also saw.... Not great outlook
What would you guys recommend for a new to rogue player - assa/out or sub? Had a boost and used it on a Rouge and went sub. I'm at 65 now but I feel like I'm doing very bad dmg compared to my other chars at this lvl. I've imported build and following rotations but still it doesn't feel right esp in pvp - if it's not against an even more undergeared cloth I don't do shit. Could it be from having bad weapons (the boosted gear) or just sub needs lots more to pop off?
Sub is the more difficult rogue spec, it's all about timing. Sub is also not very good sustained damage, it's much more burst orientated. Assa has better sustained pressure, I'd say it depends more on your playstyle. Rogue isn't an easy class to just pick up and play- it takes more practice. One thing you can do is practice stunlocking dummies. I use focus macros for all my ccs, and focus the healer. I reccomend using focus step, kidney, gouge, blind, cheap, sap.. it's a lot of binds but makes all the difference
@kodylaclair961 yea, I have them all. I've done some pvp and I've played about 10y so not a brand new player but new to DF and rogue. I might check out assa too.
Sin is the starter rogue edition spec. Sub is varsity. Both have their ups & downs, though in terms of full potential and higher skillcap, Subtlety is the move.
I mean what it gave it away was him ring pikas dark when monk was on same team kekw TBF maybe the monk just ring to stop bolt and pika press dark at same time
To be fair in the second one he actually could have been RoPing the chaos bolt since the lock had precog and you were low, but the fact that it just happened as well prior makes it incredibly sus...
@@DechCJC Stop reaching lol. It was 100% a RoP+darkness bot that the monk forgot to turn off when playing with DH. It wasn't for the bolt, as Pika explained later on.
@@DechCJC Watch again, the RoP was directly over the darkness like in the previous examples. He never RoP the bolt, even if he did a human would wait till 50-80% of the cast. No reason to RoP it then and tbh no reason to do it all in that situation. If it was to "kick" the bolt, why not place if ontop of the warlock giving more knock backs and longer time of the lock not being able to cast? It's obvious tbh but i get what you were saying
I watched the video before reading the comments to figure out which one was cheating. Had sus after the first ring of peace but the 2nd INSTANT one as soon as you press darkness, I figured out who then
I've encountered casters running a cancel cast bot for kicks. Makes it so it auto cancels their cast as soon as any kick aura even remotely goes off so that in the split miliseconds it takes for the game to register the kick landed it cancels the cast so they get precog instead. I've encountered it on 4 different toons now.
He has a bot playing the whole game almost He is just positioning and moving around. The bot does everything, rotation, healing all of it. Please report people like this.
agreed with pikaboo, see a lot of it in low end rating as well, i was in a game on my dk and monk all 6 games drops RoP perfect on my AMZ and also on a mages ring of frost
Yup as disc priest it easy to see a monk bot when they put a perfect RoP a millisecond after I put a random Dome out in the middle of nowhere in the arena 😂
And ppl wonder why no one wants to play PvP these days 😅 i believe pvp would shine Bright if these boostings stop.. It destroys the whole game Idk about pve boosts idk why ppl cry in pve about cuz if someone gets boosted it dont Affect me But in pvp u just Lose everything facing boosters Thats also why 3s is dead af. Boosting community's even Talked about their boosts We got more boosted glads this season then regular
well it can affect you if people get boosted for 0.1% title, and you yourself would be in the 0.1%, but because the boostee gets boosted, he'll end up taking your spot, in pve that is @@evoly9765
@@omegakek1 you got it backwards homie, most of wow players are boosted now. There's literally no punishment for queue sniping in order to win-trade in shuffle. All you need to do is pause the queue for half an hour then you can deliberately queue into whoever you want to. Proving grounds is the most popular queue pausing method, and healers don't even need to do that, they can just snipe with insta queues and decline if it doesn't hit. It will stay like that until you lose rating for declining the queue. (like all other rated arena)
I met a DH who said he quit playing Arena because half the players in his rating are all playing DH and it got rather boring, so now he just plays Survival Hunter. Dunno if he PvPs with that character
Does a RoP bot not know when the darkness is your teams? Honestly could see this not being a bot if so, because the 1st one couldve just been random chance. But the second one, if bots cant detect that Darkness is their own teams, definitely seems sus af.
a lot of rudimentary bots dont have checks (in many games) that check ally or not, which is why sometimes the bots are also detrimental at times. It likely has a simple trigger that checks if darkness was cast, and checks if RoP can be cast, and if it can, it plops it down on top of darkness. This is similar to having a weakaura setup, but not checking "own only" for a notification, if your trying to see how many stacks of something you have, it can track stacks of other peoples and give you a false positive. Its likely a cheap/quick bot, that only checks if it was cast and doesn't care if it was an ally, if your/their HP is low or any other factors... just says "it was cast, cast it" higher end bots on any game (the ones that are harder to detect) have random delays built in, slightly random location placements, mouse movements and can check or detect whether it actually applies; such as ally or enemy, hp, casting, etc. Typically higher end bots that are more sophisticated also have a lot of user end tweaks you can make, ranges for delays and such and usually cost monthly or larger sums up front. They do get updated more frequently though; so they tend to be harder to catch. (i took computer science and one of the things i was always interested in was botting and how it works, and how you can make them "intelligent" although i haven't used bots myself, i have used auto clickers for tedious tasks in games)
Laywer Peonchop here and would like to defend the monk, Kambodian. 1) Who would even want this bot anyway? Best case scenario it saves you a few milliseconds on clicking a RoP, but what if the kill target isnt utilizing the Darkness? What if you could instead use the RoP for a disc dome or to interrupt an important cast. I don't think saving yourself the time is worth denying yourself the precision of an important, versatile, utility spell. 2) Kambodian is not observed botting kicks, which is a much more useful bot if you are going to go down that road. 3) The RoPs were not perfectly centered (albiet it was close) 4) He RoP'd his teammates darkness. Any bot sophisticated enough to read a combat log and use a spell in response to an action would also be able to decipher friend from foe. 5) Overlaps happen. How often people use utility moves simulatenously? The answer is very often. In solo shuffle, people overlap CC and defensives all the time. Sure the RoP and darkness were used in the same location, but that is because the DH wanted to maintain uptime on lock, and monk wanted to peel as his lock casted chaos bolts. Both moves made perfect sense. 6) Also, important note, the first RoP of the game occurred in the same round where the "suspicious" RoP occurred. The first RoP wasn't "sus" at all, as Pika explains. The accusation then, is that Kambodian toggles his RoP bot in the middle of the first round of the solo shuffle, after whiffing the first one,. Then, he forgets to turn off the bot (that for some reason also targets friendly darknesses) in round 2, and then proceeds to toggle the bot off for the rest of the game. This story does not add up.
I get what you’re saying but I’m gonna go with the guy who’s played more arenas than 99.999999% of people on this. It’s like when chess grandmasters can always tell someone is cheating. I mean look at that first rop, it’s perfectly centered and happens faster than any human could react. Edit: also he was in the chat talking so he almost definitely just toggled it off after hearing pika say something
@@PeteDoesGamesI think that is an understandable starting point. Pikaboo is one of the best WoW players ever for sure. Important to note that "carl" who pikaboo is talking to in this video is of course Absterge who also was defending Kambodian in the twitch chat. Also, Pika has to put on a show, and hackusation content is entertaining and I get that. For what it is worth, my CR on windwalker is between 2400-2500 on any given day and I this bot would be a hindrance more than it would be a help ESPECIALLY if it can't determine friend or foe. If you have any pushback on the points I outlined other than "Pika is hella good at WoW" (which is a fair point) i'd be interested to hear them.
Bros in here defending his life away, if your homie wasn’t cheating why go through all this effort to defend him no cheat= no repercussions. defending this hard makes it so sus hahahahaa
I don't understand how any of you can hit anything. It just looks like 20 nameplates all ground together and how you pick out the player is beyond me, I would be off attacking some pet over in the corner thinking its the player.
Get those cheaters banned !!! :D Serious the amount of cheating people in online games is insane. Dev teams should sue people for 100.000 $ every time they get caught cheating. then you will see how many stops cheating.
Seeing this makes me glad I don't pvp anymore. until blizzard starts cracking down more on it, i'd say just let the PVP scene die, and PvP on actual PvP games while the cheaters all fight each other on wow.
Man that monk ring of piece cheating BS is so common man... I play a disc priest.. and it happens quite often with dome... Its instant just like u saw here, avtually at the end of s3, i got mail from blizz saying thanks for reports of cheating, actions been taken, a few of those mails came my way. Another lil bot thing i see from monks is when i trinket, i get incapped by the monk. Its like my trinket keybind also activates their CC on me. Now coincidences happen.. but every fuckinggg time? Gtfoooo. Also the kickbots of course .. cheating is rampant right now.
Bruh, if you rop literally ONTOP of darkness PERFECT, not once but twice, and the 2nd time is when hes on your team on YOUR DARKNESS... Youre actually hopeless lol
All these bots are just Blizz testing for the new actually-solo-shuffle. Just you vs arena bots It's only gets worse until addon accessibility is dialed way back to bare minimums but that's def never gonna happen lmao Pve moves copies way more effectively than pvp unfortunately
@@Szhusma ya I play DK and a good death grip is a game changer if team acts on it, especially with a frost do and a dk tank so you can use two death grips like a long chain pulling a target far away from safety of heals and grips back to safety.
all these people cheating cuz they have 0% skill should be perma banned on their account.... just play the game normally omg, if you're not good enough for pvp just don't do it.... can't believe why that much people just cheat instead of becomming better, there isn't even satisfaction it it...
First one he predicted the darkness after the stun was over, dh doesn’t have many outs. The second one the rop was used to deny the chaos bolt. Bots can tell the difference between team mates dark and enemy dark obviously
well i hope he is cheating bc ur fanbase grabbin their pitchforks now.. could've been a lucky coincidence since it only happened once that i saw. id rather report the dk for not landing a single interrupt in 5 min
He RoPed the CB cast and you just so happened to Dark at the same time because of the same CB. The guy is legit, not a cheater 100% - can't believe you really thought that. Or you've done it for content, which is pathetic.
Can't be a bot, has to be coincidence. It was too fast for even the bot. Unless he wasn't using abilities so that he'd be off gcd when the darkness came out. Otherwise the bot would have to wait for the gcd to end to place the rop.
Watching mongoloid melee tunnel visioning casters and winning with much less effort is one of the reasons I don't play retail anymore. And yeah, game is plagued with cheaters and boosters.
Hmmm. I’m not saying he’s not cheating or is. He could’ve been throwing RoP on lock to prevent being trained. And he did it after stun so very plausible if he’s a good monk. Edit: now the one where he RoP ur darkness, that was the SUS one
Pika was low and the Paladin got feared out of range. The ROP stopped the Lock's unkickable bolt and got all the pets off Pika. Maybe he's cheating, maybe he's not, but it was a good play to use it at that time.
You don't have perfect placement with @cursor macros because you no longer see the outline of the spells effect. You would see it be off center if that was the case. Also, he RoP'd like 0.1 sec after dark. Dude was cheating for sure and there are vids of other monks doing the exact same thing.
@@T_Birmingham not necessarily. I see Cdew land pretty accurate totem drops with his @cursors I mean, if he is cheating, what exactly is the cheat, some sort of script that perfectly lines up a DH dark? It seems conceivable to me that someone doesn't need some sort of cheat/script for that the stop on Unending Resolve/Bolt I've done countless times. That's not a cheat.
@@koshka02 it's not stopping unending resolve. It's a bot script that places RoP over dark or a disc priests barrier instantly. It was not "pretty close", it was perfectly placed over his own teammates darkness which is why it was so blatent. When the monk was on the other team, he RoP'd instantly over Pikas dark perfectly which is not natural. He was still attacking his target when the RoP was placed. He was cheating and it was obvious.
@@T_Birmingham I've landed RoPs on Dome and Dark just like that monk did. I don't even use @cursors or scripts. Its not that hard to do. You can still have time to place/position RoP while Fists is channeling.
@@koshka02 sure, I'd love to see you land something in 0.1 sec perfectly centered. It's pointless going back n forth about it. He's cheating and it is obvious to literally everyone but you apparently. Unless you're the monk in the vid 🤣
I dont think half the people in comments pvp at all lmao... Dude did a perfect rop over the darkness twice and the 2nd time was when they were on the same team. The rops perfectly line up TWICE. People are so dumb I cant even sometimes man
I know the guy in real life. Absolutely not a cheater. Just weird coincidences 😋 Anything that CAN happen, WILL happen eventually. Two weird coincidences in a row
as long as he has to press/spam a key (and only one move goes off per press) its not cheating per Blizz macro rules if its 100% auto and no key is physically pressed it would be cheating
He instantly rop’d the dk’s amz when you and dk were teamed up too but it was off center just a bit.
I would be like "ehh ok" for 1 exact frame rop covering dark... but 2 is a red flag lol. I've had really bs things happen and I've also done some bs shit... like I fat fingered kick on rogue and it happened to kick a spell as soon as they started to cast lol best kick of my life (doubt the spell kick mattered but it's great)
8:14 bro gave us time to process the information
The lock is a kickbotter too. Played vs him and he would kick my polymorphs before I even saw the cast bar
Locks always been the biggest offender of kick bots bc pet does it easy to script
Im a disc priest, n I can always spot a kickbot when it kicks my penance B4 a single bolt goes out.. it's so so obvious when that starts happening.
@@MegaPuggz I mean i think some people are really fast at kicking. People can definitely kick penance before a bolt goes out.
@@TehSlaw its a kickbot .. if u seen it u wouldn't question it. Cheating is extremely common. Every lobby I play in, every person has multi rank 1 titles..I see people like hansol.... Pikaboo..... All the top guys.. I see what fast kicks look like... N I see what kickbot looks like... It's extremely obvious
Btw I'm not just saying someone kicks once b4 a bolt goes out n I accuse them of kickbot. Once that happens I pay closer attention to their kicks cuz its extremely suspicious. THEN I confirm they are kickbotting.
a SV hunter in our guild just got banned for botting 94% parses on mythic kills. lol came clean after the ban couldn't believe it. worst part is how he bragged every kill about how good of a parse it was.
they have rotation bots that advertise high parses. shit is ridiculous. how can you not learn a rotation.. lol
Why did he have to be a SV? Also, as a SV I'll just say it isn't hard to parse high as a SV. Your parse is a comparison against others playing your spec. There just aren't that many people playing SV. It is truly sad that we are competing against bots.
nothing i love more than watching cheaters get caught being a POS, ban and laugh at him
DH mobility and damage is insane, it never ends, if someone isn't being healed and has defensives up they die instantly.
Dh meta is always a terrible meta
@@iRoyalFlush because it isn't your class that's meta? calm down buddy
Lol love the darkness at the end ;) good job editor
Sad thing is that above 1800, like lot of people use cheats to gain ratting, not just healers and when you run into a lobby that's full of them -60 blizz needs to fix this.
Been that way since SL's mayeb before but I didnt arena in BFA so (shrug).
At 1800 one would encounter scripting a ton when reacing that thresh hold or tier.
Definitely hurt the game.
That is just crazy. Why would you pay for a game, pay for a sub, and then pay a sub to a bot service that cost more than the sub price? I admit I pay for Raidbot to get faster sims but I heard the auto bot for interrupts and other mechanics is almost $30 a month.
No way can that be worth it. Who are you paying that for? Who made you feel so bad that you thought $30 a month would help your self-esteem.
@semi6544 The same reason why people pay $1200 each pvp season for rating boosts gratification and bragging rights.
The game is not what it used to be
hey im new to wow, how good is 1800? i reached 1500 today i feel proud of myself after reading this comment
@@overdrive112 Like average but with ratings inflation you never know 1800 might feel like old 2k or even more.Althou as someone who is around 1800-1950 since legion i dont find it more difficult than before.If we re talking soloque im way more frustrated with que times and that kinda made me stop playing retail.
so wait he rop'd his own teammates darkness? is that what happened in the second clip? or was he ropping something else? Thats actually hilarious he got the walmart dollar store bot roping his own team bruh
The music at the end in the dark 😂😂😂😂❤
I feel this is only the beginning, we will see more and more occurrences and also more sophisticated botting in the future. I already saw kick bots, now this one. Trinket blind ones i also saw.... Not great outlook
its been around forever .D Nothing new in this
What would you guys recommend for a new to rogue player - assa/out or sub? Had a boost and used it on a Rouge and went sub. I'm at 65 now but I feel like I'm doing very bad dmg compared to my other chars at this lvl. I've imported build and following rotations but still it doesn't feel right esp in pvp - if it's not against an even more undergeared cloth I don't do shit. Could it be from having bad weapons (the boosted gear) or just sub needs lots more to pop off?
Sub is the more difficult rogue spec, it's all about timing. Sub is also not very good sustained damage, it's much more burst orientated. Assa has better sustained pressure, I'd say it depends more on your playstyle. Rogue isn't an easy class to just pick up and play- it takes more practice. One thing you can do is practice stunlocking dummies. I use focus macros for all my ccs, and focus the healer. I reccomend using focus step, kidney, gouge, blind, cheap, sap.. it's a lot of binds but makes all the difference
@kodylaclair961 yea, I have them all. I've done some pvp and I've played about 10y so not a brand new player but new to DF and rogue. I might check out assa too.
Sin is the starter rogue edition spec. Sub is varsity. Both have their ups & downs, though in terms of full potential and higher skillcap, Subtlety is the move.
Pika probably knows already but you can Veng retreat disarms :)
Only with glimpse pvp talent
I mean what it gave it away was him ring pikas dark when monk was on same team kekw
TBF maybe the monk just ring to stop bolt and pika press dark at same time
The amount of shaman using ground bot for void torrent goes is insane too.
To be fair in the second one he actually could have been RoPing the chaos bolt since the lock had precog and you were low, but the fact that it just happened as well prior makes it incredibly sus...
Did you not watch the video? 19:41
@@Knifehands__How does that change anything in the slightest? Precog is pretty much synonymous with “Cant be kicked” these days.
@@DechCJC Stop reaching lol. It was 100% a RoP+darkness bot that the monk forgot to turn off when playing with DH. It wasn't for the bolt, as Pika explained later on.
@@plague6174 I’m not saying it wasn’t a bot, just that in this one example I could defend it.
@@DechCJC Watch again, the RoP was directly over the darkness like in the previous examples. He never RoP the bolt, even if he did a human would wait till 50-80% of the cast. No reason to RoP it then and tbh no reason to do it all in that situation. If it was to "kick" the bolt, why not place if ontop of the warlock giving more knock backs and longer time of the lock not being able to cast? It's obvious tbh but i get what you were saying
Huuuge Vod !! But what is this black screen Ed the Shaman the Editor?!
I watched the video before reading the comments to figure out which one was cheating. Had sus after the first ring of peace but the 2nd INSTANT one as soon as you press darkness, I figured out who then
Ofc you can get coilled in the sky, as long as there is range u can get hit by everything... what do u think that is? A pala's bubble?
coil has 20m radius and he was about 40 m away dude :D
@@Alteater Sniper Coil?
I've encountered casters running a cancel cast bot for kicks. Makes it so it auto cancels their cast as soon as any kick aura even remotely goes off so that in the split miliseconds it takes for the game to register the kick landed it cancels the cast so they get precog instead. I've encountered it on 4 different toons now.
LMAO that might be the funniest excuse for being bad at kicking i've ever seen
Hahaha this is not a thing you just need to practice kicks
These Kind if Bots are dead since wotlk i think
I never saw this since years. Only things i Was facing are like these RoP
Jukebots absolutely are a thing still
@@markduarte1349 no, they aren't. skill issue bruh
what is the song at 9:20 please
How he hears the death from a player as a kill shot any link i can get it?
He has a bot playing the whole game almost He is just positioning and moving around. The bot does everything, rotation, healing all of it. Please report people like this.
agreed with pikaboo, see a lot of it in low end rating as well, i was in a game on my dk and monk all 6 games drops RoP perfect on my AMZ and also on a mages ring of frost
Yup as disc priest it easy to see a monk bot when they put a perfect RoP a millisecond after I put a random Dome out in the middle of nowhere in the arena 😂
75% boosted, 20% cheaters, 5% real.. welcome to wow
And ppl wonder why no one wants to play PvP these days 😅 i believe pvp would shine Bright if these boostings stop..
It destroys the whole game
Idk about pve boosts idk why ppl cry in pve about cuz if someone gets boosted it dont Affect me
But in pvp u just Lose everything facing boosters
Thats also why 3s is dead af.
Boosting community's even Talked about their boosts
We got more boosted glads this season then regular
well it can affect you if people get boosted for 0.1% title, and you yourself would be in the 0.1%, but because the boostee gets boosted, he'll end up taking your spot, in pve that is @@evoly9765
till now i did not know there are cheats in wow...
people who think everyone is boosted are just trash players
@@omegakek1 you got it backwards homie, most of wow players are boosted now.
There's literally no punishment for queue sniping in order to win-trade in shuffle.
All you need to do is pause the queue for half an hour then you can deliberately queue into whoever you want to.
Proving grounds is the most popular queue pausing method, and healers don't even need to do that, they can just snipe with insta queues and decline if it doesn't hit.
It will stay like that until you lose rating for declining the queue. (like all other rated arena)
I met a DH who said he quit playing Arena because half the players in his rating are all playing DH and it got rather boring, so now he just plays Survival Hunter. Dunno if he PvPs with that character
whats the track at 10:16???????????
That lock is really really good
what !!! you can shoot something shootable in the air ... what??????
Does a RoP bot not know when the darkness is your teams? Honestly could see this not being a bot if so, because the 1st one couldve just been random chance. But the second one, if bots cant detect that Darkness is their own teams, definitely seems sus af.
He obviously got the value pack bot xD
a lot of rudimentary bots dont have checks (in many games) that check ally or not, which is why sometimes the bots are also detrimental at times. It likely has a simple trigger that checks if darkness was cast, and checks if RoP can be cast, and if it can, it plops it down on top of darkness.
This is similar to having a weakaura setup, but not checking "own only" for a notification, if your trying to see how many stacks of something you have, it can track stacks of other peoples and give you a false positive. Its likely a cheap/quick bot, that only checks if it was cast and doesn't care if it was an ally, if your/their HP is low or any other factors... just says "it was cast, cast it"
higher end bots on any game (the ones that are harder to detect) have random delays built in, slightly random location placements, mouse movements and can check or detect whether it actually applies; such as ally or enemy, hp, casting, etc. Typically higher end bots that are more sophisticated also have a lot of user end tweaks you can make, ranges for delays and such and usually cost monthly or larger sums up front. They do get updated more frequently though; so they tend to be harder to catch.
(i took computer science and one of the things i was always interested in was botting and how it works, and how you can make them "intelligent" although i haven't used bots myself, i have used auto clickers for tedious tasks in games)
@@SlackinPandaauto alch 5000
😂😂😂
Always ww monk bots too , that class needs to be nerfed to the ground
Wait how does someone cheat on wow like buy rating ?
bots/auto scripts to do actions like kicking for you, dps rotations in PvE, interrupts/walls in PvP..
Laywer Peonchop here and would like to defend the monk, Kambodian.
1) Who would even want this bot anyway? Best case scenario it saves you a few milliseconds on clicking a RoP, but what if the kill target isnt utilizing the Darkness? What if you could instead use the RoP for a disc dome or to interrupt an important cast. I don't think saving yourself the time is worth denying yourself the precision of an important, versatile, utility spell.
2) Kambodian is not observed botting kicks, which is a much more useful bot if you are going to go down that road.
3) The RoPs were not perfectly centered (albiet it was close)
4) He RoP'd his teammates darkness. Any bot sophisticated enough to read a combat log and use a spell in response to an action would also be able to decipher friend from foe.
5) Overlaps happen. How often people use utility moves simulatenously? The answer is very often. In solo shuffle, people overlap CC and defensives all the time. Sure the RoP and darkness were used in the same location, but that is because the DH wanted to maintain uptime on lock, and monk wanted to peel as his lock casted chaos bolts. Both moves made perfect sense.
6) Also, important note, the first RoP of the game occurred in the same round where the "suspicious" RoP occurred. The first RoP wasn't "sus" at all, as Pika explains.
The accusation then, is that Kambodian toggles his RoP bot in the middle of the first round of the solo shuffle, after whiffing the first one,. Then, he forgets to turn off the bot (that for some reason also targets friendly darknesses) in round 2, and then proceeds to toggle the bot off for the rest of the game.
This story does not add up.
No
I get what you’re saying but I’m gonna go with the guy who’s played more arenas than 99.999999% of people on this. It’s like when chess grandmasters can always tell someone is cheating. I mean look at that first rop, it’s perfectly centered and happens faster than any human could react. Edit: also he was in the chat talking so he almost definitely just toggled it off after hearing pika say something
@@PeteDoesGamesI think that is an understandable starting point. Pikaboo is one of the best WoW players ever for sure.
Important to note that "carl" who pikaboo is talking to in this video is of course Absterge who also was defending Kambodian in the twitch chat.
Also, Pika has to put on a show, and hackusation content is entertaining and I get that.
For what it is worth, my CR on windwalker is between 2400-2500 on any given day and I this bot would be a hindrance more than it would be a help ESPECIALLY if it can't determine friend or foe.
If you have any pushback on the points I outlined other than "Pika is hella good at WoW" (which is a fair point) i'd be interested to hear them.
everyone always try to larp as a lawyer when cheaters need cover lmao
Bros in here defending his life away, if your homie wasn’t cheating why go through all this effort to defend him no cheat= no repercussions. defending this hard makes it so sus hahahahaa
Ran a RBG team for 6 years. This is why we stopped.
sure
@@Zaeteyup.
How do u cheat on wow ??
damn you didn't report him, rip u
give it less then a day I reckon he'll change his character name
18:15-18:38 editor xD?
he is indeed
I don't understand how any of you can hit anything. It just looks like 20 nameplates all ground together and how you pick out the player is beyond me, I would be off attacking some pet over in the corner thinking its the player.
Get those cheaters banned !!! :D Serious the amount of cheating people in online games is insane. Dev teams should sue people for 100.000 $ every time they get caught cheating. then you will see how many stops cheating.
lol why is it hard for blizz to catch these people turtle wow private server be catching banning like crazy for botting
i guess he's god monk in world
“Its alright to cheat, i didnt report you”…
Tf you mean?!
the real crime would be if not a single person who works at blizzard watches pikaboo's streams or youtube channel
maybe dont put fake quotes lol, he didnt say the 1st half
@@laneysatm 16:47
GET EM OUTTA HERE!!! LOL
Great vid Pika lol.
Seeing this makes me glad I don't pvp anymore. until blizzard starts cracking down more on it, i'd say just let the PVP scene die, and PvP on actual PvP games while the cheaters all fight each other on wow.
Man that monk ring of piece cheating BS is so common man... I play a disc priest.. and it happens quite often with dome... Its instant just like u saw here, avtually at the end of s3, i got mail from blizz saying thanks for reports of cheating, actions been taken, a few of those mails came my way. Another lil bot thing i see from monks is when i trinket, i get incapped by the monk. Its like my trinket keybind also activates their CC on me. Now coincidences happen.. but every fuckinggg time? Gtfoooo. Also the kickbots of course .. cheating is rampant right now.
Dropping the RoP when the stun ends seems normal. What else would you do besides Darkness there?
Bruh, if you rop literally ONTOP of darkness PERFECT, not once but twice, and the 2nd time is when hes on your team on YOUR DARKNESS...
Youre actually hopeless lol
why would you preempt it like that lol. just wait until he drops the dark and rop a split second after if you're so sure he's going to dark.
only mistake i see is you dont press throw glavie enough.. it needs to be pressed right when gets off cd.. its the most dmg trust!
All these bots are just Blizz testing for the new actually-solo-shuffle.
Just you vs arena bots
It's only gets worse until addon accessibility is dialed way back to bare minimums but that's def never gonna happen lmao
Pve moves copies way more effectively than pvp unfortunately
pika , are you putting makeup on your face ?
This is sad tbh. Fuckin sucks I just got the next expansion LOL
Prio macros are not cheating..
Someone tell that cheater his clown shoes are showing
bruh im dead ☠
The DH or the ROGUE is noton target for 2sec :THIS IS INASEN WTF IS THIS CHEATERS!!! :D :D 2 easiest class in the game.
This is why i play on a vanilla private dad server. Like what even is all this bloated crap?
Pika don't be afraid to double cast glaives, the damage over time stacks when you throw 2 of them.
so he can’t be really good? come on now
No not better then the number 1 preyer bro you must be stupid
Alot of add ons used for years are cheats. Blizzard allows them. Welcome to the next step.
What addons?
what are the odds this isnt cheating? lmao. 0.001% chance he did those perfectly randomly
Why would he ROP there when they were on the same team lmao
everyone who playing better as you = he is a cheater?
LOL this monk rop'd darkness in a milisecond bro.
DH is so much better then DK, damage and mobility off the charts and surviving is amazing on top of it all
They fill different rolls and work with different teams.
@@Szhusma ya I play DK and a good death grip is a game changer if team acts on it, especially with a frost do and a dk tank so you can use two death grips like a long chain pulling a target far away from safety of heals and grips back to safety.
all these people cheating cuz they have 0% skill should be perma banned on their account.... just play the game normally omg, if you're not good enough for pvp just don't do it.... can't believe why that much people just cheat instead of becomming better, there isn't even satisfaction it it...
First one he predicted the darkness after the stun was over, dh doesn’t have many outs. The second one the rop was used to deny the chaos bolt. Bots can tell the difference between team mates dark and enemy dark obviously
you are delusional
Ok, PuckyTucky
Cheater need to get permanently banned so I hope someone will send this to Blizzard and they ban him permanently.
well i hope he is cheating bc ur fanbase grabbin their pitchforks now.. could've been a lucky coincidence since it only happened once that i saw. id rather report the dk for not landing a single interrupt in 5 min
He RoPed the CB cast and you just so happened to Dark at the same time because of the same CB. The guy is legit, not a cheater 100% - can't believe you really thought that. Or you've done it for content, which is pathetic.
Cheating link cdew
Can't be a bot, has to be coincidence. It was too fast for even the bot. Unless he wasn't using abilities so that he'd be off gcd when the darkness came out. Otherwise the bot would have to wait for the gcd to end to place the rop.
that's where you get the off center ones. the other 3.
All his rops were perfect until he toggled off. Literally twice in a row ontop the darkness, 2nd time is when HES ON HIS TEAM BROOO
your telling me, its to fast for a bot, so it must have been a human player? a human is faster than a bot? sir...please
Didn't the guy coming into the chat asking not to get reported because he was a big fan confirm he was botting?
I think the 2nd ROP was for the locks wall and uninterruptible Chaos bolt.
It was a good rop, but the placement is weird, and it being placed directly on top of darkness twice is pretty unbelievable.
interesting
Watching mongoloid melee tunnel visioning casters and winning with much less effort is one of the reasons I don't play retail anymore.
And yeah, game is plagued with cheaters and boosters.
Should of reported him.
Hmmm. I’m not saying he’s not cheating or is. He could’ve been throwing RoP on lock to prevent being trained. And he did it after stun so very plausible if he’s a good monk.
Edit: now the one where he RoP ur darkness, that was the SUS one
Pika was low and the Paladin got feared out of range. The ROP stopped the Lock's unkickable bolt and got all the pets off Pika. Maybe he's cheating, maybe he's not, but it was a good play to use it at that time.
Not within a millisecond of the same second that darkness goes down. Twice. Perfectly centered. Ya no, that doesn’t happen with human error involved.
Ur assuming it was intentional. Just as likely he overlapped accidentally to stop the lock casting
@@Coheed420 The 1st time was not even perfect as a matter of fact it was rather slow and not perfectly placed so yeah.
@@wtbskilllololo doesn’t matter. If it happens more than once, it’s a bot. There’s no such thing as coincidence more than once.
bro
bruh stop lying
the winner
The reason no one pvps anymore lol
When Pika is faster than a cheater.....says something. :)
1st one is absolute lucky anticipation, and the second one he is clearly using it to interrupt the chaos bolt through wall. Definitely not cheating
LUL
didnt wizk ddos ppl and cheat
nah, disagree on that one
Its likely an @cursor macro for fast RoPs
You don't have perfect placement with @cursor macros because you no longer see the outline of the spells effect. You would see it be off center if that was the case. Also, he RoP'd like 0.1 sec after dark. Dude was cheating for sure and there are vids of other monks doing the exact same thing.
@@T_Birmingham not necessarily. I see Cdew land pretty accurate totem drops with his @cursors
I mean, if he is cheating, what exactly is the cheat, some sort of script that perfectly lines up a DH dark? It seems conceivable to me that someone doesn't need some sort of cheat/script for that
the stop on Unending Resolve/Bolt I've done countless times. That's not a cheat.
@@koshka02 it's not stopping unending resolve. It's a bot script that places RoP over dark or a disc priests barrier instantly. It was not "pretty close", it was perfectly placed over his own teammates darkness which is why it was so blatent.
When the monk was on the other team, he RoP'd instantly over Pikas dark perfectly which is not natural. He was still attacking his target when the RoP was placed.
He was cheating and it was obvious.
@@T_Birmingham I've landed RoPs on Dome and Dark just like that monk did. I don't even use @cursors or scripts. Its not that hard to do.
You can still have time to place/position RoP while Fists is channeling.
@@koshka02 sure, I'd love to see you land something in 0.1 sec perfectly centered. It's pointless going back n forth about it. He's cheating and it is obvious to literally everyone but you apparently. Unless you're the monk in the vid 🤣
They can make this with macro under his self, when they stay on this place is possible, is not cheating, u talking just trash
u literaly call Pikaboo 'u talking just trash', more bots on internet hired by that guy?
I dont think half the people in comments pvp at all lmao...
Dude did a perfect rop over the darkness twice and the 2nd time was when they were on the same team. The rops perfectly line up TWICE.
People are so dumb I cant even sometimes man
First
almost! but not today.
second
I know the guy in real life. Absolutely not a cheater. Just weird coincidences 😋 Anything that CAN happen, WILL happen eventually. Two weird coincidences in a row
You’d have to be pretty stupid to think that guys not cheating lmao
so nice claiming someone is a cheater when you cheat traking the other team CDs
I don't think it was a bot /shrug
imagine playing a game that allows cheaters and theres nothing that will be done about it. theres probably 10k+ cheating now
They all get banned eventually
as long as he has to press/spam a key (and only one move goes off per press) its not cheating per Blizz macro rules if its 100% auto and no key is physically pressed it would be cheating