Pika you are inspiration for new PvP'ers like me. I made ele shammy, because of you. Fully geared already and have a LOT of fun with it. Struggling at 1600 mmr, but hey - we've all been there right ? :D
Back in my day when StarCraft came out and was a hot game I played ranked with people across the world. During gameplay I would type in “If lag occurs Alt-F4 is the correction”. A disconnect is a win/loss. I became rank 15 in the US with this one strategy. Unrelated but this reminded me of that.
the feign death before stun is actually very possible due to latency. i've feigned death a rogue stun before like that. it was a complete fluke but it happened and doesnt happen very often. i see a rogue coming at me so i feign death to drop his target, but sometime it fails and i get stunned anyways. even when the rogue is stealthed hunters can use "track hidden" ability found by the minimap and you can 100% see them coming at you while they are stealthed. track hidden has been in the game since vanilla wow, not many hunters use their tracking spells though i feel like its not very obvious as they arent in the spell book. i love pulling rogues outta stealth by just running around the arena map with camouflage and finding them trying to be sneaky lol
Its good to see all the streamers making videos about the cheating now. Its been like this for a while and I think that with more public pressure itll force Blizzard to do something.
So many people giving the hunter the benefit of the doubt but let's look at the facts. Go to 1:00 mark and play at 0.25 speed. At 1:03 (first global cheap shot) the hunter feigns IN REACTION TO THE CHEAP. Not before it. Not after it. Their globals are perfectly syncd up and the initial dmg still lands but is reduced, this is the first red flag. From the hunters perspective: Your camo has just broken first so you are the only revealed player in the Arena, obviously he can anticipate getting opened on by the Rogue or Hunter. It makes sense for Gemstone to feign the first global coming in from a hunter, but not a rogue, especially a stealthed rogue. At this point Shadewalker is still in Camo. In a 2's game with no healers why would you feign air like that? Nothing about this makes sense it's just weird. There is a slight chance that it was just really perfect anticipation and timing, or a completely happy accident (maybe they pressed the wrong key altogether). You would have to be naive to not even consider the possibility its cheating though. Especially with what we have seen the bots do this expansion in PvP, this is definitely within the realms of possibility.
You fein cuz you hope they open and you get the damage reduction from the fein. Im bad and still understand why a player would wanna use fein there. Pika insta opens him when he put stealth too. Just a lucky press from a not good player. Pika gets one cd blocked and the guy has to be cheating lmao. Hes falling off. Too bad he use to be good at the game.
@@trentongardner2106 I wasn't born yesterday, not buying it for a second. Guy comes in to comments playing dumb and saying he doesn't know what a hack or script is. Please...
@@trentongardner2106 It would be one thing to just happen to feign right as Pika was going to open and get his rhythm off a bit.. But do you actually understand how tight the timing is on cheap shot actually landing, Pika getting unstealthed because of it, and still actually getting the feign effect off? Actually had to be pressed at like .01 second interval later. Doing it for damage reduction doesn't make any sense either, since that's a hella short window you wouldn't want to waste with no indication of getting opened on yet.
@Alellion hence that's he's inexperienced. As in this happened as an accident. You guys are so train by pika to do what he says it hurts. Listen I get it. You guys don't really care what happened. You just want pika to notice you. Just say that, though. Don't try to make stuff up to fit pikas' point. Just say you like to imagine pika placing his sack in your mouth.
_At __1:03__ (first global cheap shot) the hunter feigns IN REACTION TO THE CHEAP. Not before it. Not after it._ That's not right. On Pika's screen you see cheap shot being pressed before FD was used. On Hunter's screen you could see FD being pressed before cheap shot. This doesn't prove or disprove anything. _It makes sense for Gemstone to feign the first global coming in from a hunter, but not a rogue_ Yes but why do you assume he did it because of the rogue? You have no indicators for this. You only assume it because Pika said so and you see his pov. The hunter jumped out of stealth too and was in line. In fact, we don't know why he pressed FD at all, it could have also been simply fat fingered. _At this point Shadewalker is still in Camo._ Doesn't look like that for me but unfortunately we can't prove or disprove it with facts. Pika is not tracking his camo. _In a 2's game with no healers why would you feign air like that?_ As we don't know if he simply fat fingered or not, why would you expect a low rated hunter to fully rational and perfect decisions? He is losing more games than he is winning for a reason. Just because the outcome of his action looks insane, doesn't mean that's what he had on his mind. _You would have to be naive to not even consider the possibility its cheating though_ What exactly is the argument for this? In his later video Pika claims that the hunter pressed too many buttons too quick. Yet if you actually count it, he has like 1 button press per second. That's everything else than impressive. Unless something changed in the world and somehow everyone thinks 60 APM is inhuman?
WOW needs to come out with a 1 vs 1 already so people without friends or the Pikaboo rizz can please Arena and not have to resort to using a bot/program. I'm sure that guys was losing his mind watching his "buddy" slowly backpedal while repeatedly trying to use Sniper Shot from close range (SMH). Regarding the Feign Death, sometimes you can hear and even see the stealthie characters (that iconic "swoosh" sound), but the rest of the match did look a little suspect.
There discord servers with scripts for all players to get wins vs top rated players now, have a friend setting it up at the moment to try and queue pika constant to troll, I don’t support but there’s many doing this atm
Started WoW on Xmas last year so about 2.5 months into game, made sub rogue, first character ever, slowly started learning that it’s like hardest character to play lmao but still been cooking ppl. One day I will be the TOP rogue
dude, theres been WAY TOO many bots, and i swear i mean like ALOOTTTTT now man, its not even fun playing arena thinking if the opponent is a bot or not anymore.
Dude if you think you have bots in every arena lemme tell you that's skill issue, that's just on you. I've found a lot of 1.6k players these days yelling ppl for "cheating". Im not going to assume at what level is your gamming, but wow its deffinetly not that broken, you wont find that many bots.
Fellow adventurers, I am Gemstone, the Hunter Extraordinaire. Accusations of cheating are but whispers against the thunderous clash of my bow and blade. My victories are earned through skill, not sorcery. Judge me by my deeds, not idle chatter. With unwavering resolve, Gemstone stands tall.
Im not sure how you can be 100% sure, if your friend was cheating/scripting unless you're on his computer, in his room with him, you cant know. SO why make a claim like this? Cheaters often will do this behind even their friends/homies back, as they kinda live in a weird world of illusion where if everyone around them believes they can pulloff what the cheating is doing, then they feel like they did it themselves personally. He's got 10k achive points, clearly played awhile, yet still isnt very good at the game. This is the exact type of person who resorts to cheating. The most common Cheater type: The Noob. -Not very skilled at game. -Not mechanically skilled. -Not gamesense skilled. They begin to script/cheat. Its like a FPS game, it becomes obvious to people who's cheating, because the "noob cheater" has no mechanical skill/awarness/gamesense, yet will do mechanical movements near perfectly. An example in FPS being. a "Perfect spray" while firing an A.K. Which you'd only see really in pro scene rarely or by players with ALOT of games under their belt, but then they'd be all around good. Despite this...their gamesense...is that of a begginner. Aka your friend here, does perfect mechanically timed abiltiies consistantly. Yet he back peddals and can't do a rotation? He is the definition. If you genuinely believe your friend Gemstone, i suggest taking a step back, and wondering if he's been lying to you/be skeptical from now on. You could get perma banned 2 from association. So be careful. But whats more likely (Is you know), as typically cheaters friends know all along. But ill give u benefit of the doubt
no this kinda stuff just makes me not wanna play the game, seeems like i go against alot of people with kickbots, you can find out by sitting just outside range and spam kick and they will keep cancelling and start casting everytime you press it, might be coincidence but with how many of thes videos see i wouldnt be surpirsed if i have gone against people with that.
I mean there is a 0.1% chance that he just missclicked feint death lol. I can see that people actually pull this off by design but then they'd play better afterwards aswell. I myself loved to counter abilities by using another ability myself when I was playing pvp active like 10+ years ago. Like vanishing blinds/stuns/deepfreeze and stuff like that.
Dude def wasn't cheating. Pika is getting way too used to calling people cheaters over everything and even sent his chat to report him. You fucking kidding me?
I came from the latest video and am just copy pasting what I wrote there, hopefully to gain pika's attention : I checked out the previous video showing the full footage, your hunter partner got out of stealth and actually stayed out of stealth in the opener. As he was making his way towards the opponent hunter that is also out of stealth your hunter partner comes in his los and as soon as that happens the opposing hunter uses feign death in response, probably his own idea of cucking a hunt rogs opener. This makes the idea of the lucky timing of feign death on cheap possible, never impossible. During the time that your partner is out of stealth, the enemy hunter could easily put him on focus. Then afterwards, trinket tar trap looks very legit, into disengage focus-scatter into target hunter. This all seems to be his own premade up idea of countering a hunt rogs strong opener as hunter healer. And his comment response saying "the only reason he won" honestly seems like an emotional defense from the overwhelming cheating accusations of a well known streamer and his community. I understand there is a huge uprise in cheating especially as of lately, but to be quick to draw a conclusion of cheats, it has a much bigger impact on a person's life than you might think. As you said he is a main tank in your sister's boyfriend's guild, I wonder what's happened ever since. You might owe an apology here Jason.
A hunter thats backpeddling isnt pulling off that FD, trap, disengage, AND scattering Pikas partner all within a single global. If you dont understand that this is scripting, then you just dont know the game.
@@him7487 But that's the thing, it wasn't all in a single global, actually @Wetdreamcast comment on the latest video does a wonderful job saying the exact amount of frames each button took. A late trinket into an instant trap is very very basic and quite easy to do. And the disengage was not even instantly after. It took quite a bit of frames compared to the trinket trap. Disengage + Focus scatter is VERY easy to press at the same time too. If you read what I wrote, he could have easily put the hunter who was out of stealth for a solid 10 seconds in his focus. On top of that, this is all clearly his way of countering an opener, of course everything will be pressed as fast as possible when he already knows what he wants to do before hand.
@Nayef and let's not forget after that tournament level cc chain off the opener, does a sniper shot from 2 feet away. You're either trolling, or someone stuck at 1200 that has no idea how the game works. It also was in a single global, the trap was already triggered before the disengage was used, it was instant. It's a script, very simple, any decent player can spot it instantly, as Pika did.
@Nayef why are you pretending that's all that happened? He FD at the exact second of a cheap shot, trinket, disengage, trap, and scatters Pikas teammate in a single global. No human is doing that. I'm not gonna try and convince you like I said, you're either just trolling or just don't understand the game. Good luck.
I don't like this look for Pika. Sure, we can all laugh at the bots and they are extremely obvious. But this is a isolated incident. After he does his godplay FD, he then proceeds to trinket late, panic, heal, turtle die. After seing what some of the other bots are doing, this would not be how a bot goes out. This feels off brand for Pika.
@@innocentloli5420 You might be sure of that without a doubt. But this is not enough evidence to post a clip about. All the other clips we've seen in the last couple months are so damning it's comical. This is sus, and probably cheating. But this couldn't be brought to a court and carry a sentence is what I mean. People should calm this judge attitude man.
Almost a guarantee he will get banned. If i worked at blizz and saw this id run pika up with a week off the game, and let him try his variety streaming career.
what answer can players have in this game when u play against r1 tournament player at 1800 tr? Hope there will be more bots this game & it will be ruined more than even now. For avervage player in 3vs3 its unplayable even at 1800mmr, u need to play reeeeealy good 2 win smth...I play since classic, state in which WOW is right now is worst that happened expecially this SoloQ
@@PhenomRom mate, get me right, i know that playing versus strongest opponent is a way 2 improve, but if u face only players who much far with skillz, game sense & exp is like a from other realmz challenge. I still cant get my 2100 at 2vs2 cause each player I met there is alr a glad or 2400+ exp player this season
you got ptsd with these bots this hunter accidentally fiend the cheap all of a sudden his a cheat?? u play arena everyday run into these bots daily ofcourse u have ptsd
@@DemonXT the only thing that is impossible is to use pre feign like that unless its a coincidence. Considering dude did nothing aside from dying after that id say he probably didnt cheat, atleast there aint no proof of it in this video
Let's even say the feign is lucky, he than insta trinkets, throws tar trap, disenganges, swaps targets twice, and scatters the hunter - almost all in a global. He goes from pressing like 6 buttons in 1 second to then AFK casting sniper shot at melee range and back peddling. It seems really sus how he can perform the initial bit, but then struggle to even move later on...@@kimandrermo4196
bro hes probably right. He's literally the best player in the game bro, has an elite rating on every class and spec, won AWC. that being said we just need a BOT CHECK system for players
Ye I mean, you can be cheating and still be super shit in terms of gameplay awareness, which leaves you completely relying on the script or w/e to survive.
Na, you have no exp with cheaters then. I'll use FPS game as example. Noob starts cheating since they suck. They suck, so their gamesense/awarness is horrible, they dont know peak angles, where to nade, ect. Yet...their aim, and spray is perfect, and they always know where the enemy is despite clearly looking like a new player in all other terms. This is the most common type of cheater. "The noob" and they usually get caught. And respond with. "OOOO but look i have such bad gamesense how could i be cheating?" Its like bruh...use your brain. Clearly he fits the bill. Backpeddals, absolutely horrible positioning, yet does near-perfect r1/pro/highlyexperienced mechanical counter-useage of abilities that usually require prediciton, yet he does them without it. Its not consistant, not impossible, but is highly unlikely. @@trentongardner2106
it used to be a "trick", waaaay back in cata or mop i dont remember you could stack with your pet and the moment you heard the rogue or see his gladius hp bar show up press FD and 2-3 out of 10 rogue was going to open on my pet and not me
He could have just done a random faint for no reason since he’s low rating. Saying that guy is cheating based on one move that could 100% be random is pretty fried
@@Lloocii It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. There is no reason to fat finger or miss click anything in that very second. It's a bot or he's spamming script waiting for rogue opener.
@@Vosmalus Go look at his record. Watch his game play. He's not cheating. Shush now. It IS obvious that you don't know a damn thing about bots and scripting. It's OK though suckle up to the teat.
@@Lloocii His record has nothing to do with it, cheating/scripting doesn't make you good if you suck. Use your brain man, and Pika is a really good veteran player, he doesn't say crap without being able to tell somethings not right. Now you shush.
Faster than Pikaboo? This is literally inhuman. The only way this could happen is by completely random chance which is really unlikely (although possible) Nobody is feigning a cheap intentionally
@@shadowbanned3044 Yeah all of that within a global for someone who claims to know nothing about the game and indeed plays like they know nothing about that game. It's sus af at MINIMUM.
@@him7487 Watch the video. He presses around one button per one second. (which is VERY slow btw, just saying, that's 60 apm lmao) Yet, what exactly is impressive? He is literally not doing anything special, you could say it's on the same level as backpaddling....
@@GramadinGG He is pressing around ONE button per one SECOND, that's not all in one global. Technically 60 APM is very slow. And what he did, is not even the right move, at least most of the time, nor is it somehow "hard to press" or... what do I call it? Like I am not even sure which part exactly looks like cheating... cheating is for me when someone pulls off something very impressive and/or barely human possible in a short amount of time without fails. That's not what happened here, like not at all. All the guy does is his favorite disengage macro against a melee, which 99% low rated hunters do as the first button against a melee btw... and then he does his noob combo, which is scatter into sniper shot... I mean you have even outdated guides for this. So he does something very basic, with around one button press per second and he fails to actually control pika or to escape him. So what exactly is "sus" here?
I feel like he pressed feign death when he saw the hunter in his line tbh, but I could very well be wrong, if was a script feel like would have played alot better than that, match was so short so who knows haha
Not saying the hunter is scripting, but at least this theory can not be correct, if you go frame by frame in the video, the hunter on Pikas team is still in stealth when Feign is used.
@@duggix2362 What are you talking about? Literally just watch the video and go frame by frame, Pikas teammate is in stealth when the enemy hunter presses Feign, theres nothing more to it.
@@SebboTheFro Yeah, the frames are extremely blurry, and to me it looks like the hunter breaks out at about a reaction time before Pika opens. It's seems more clear the first time Pika is reviewing it himself, not when it happens.
Lol. Dude hit FD 1 time at the perfect moment and now he’s a cheater and should get banned ? Literally one singular peace of “evidence” is enough for you to throw away the key lol. Glad you’re just a wow gamer and not a police officer or judge.
@@PristineStudioi said a 10 word sentence and you made a whole story off of it brother. even with minimal systems, it's not difficult for blizzard to investigate, but more importantly than a hunter scripting FD at 1900 MMR (somehow higher than u) - they just need to implement an anti-cheat system and make display they give a damn. sincerely, spend 10 minutes looking up wow cheats, AHK, etc. you think the anger is directed at this "lucky" (lol) player when if you had basic clue of what programs these people are using, you'd see exactly what the issue is.
@@Xohslol what if he just pressed FD lol ? This game is very fast paced. There was plenty times I pressed “intercept” as a warrior and ate a cheap shot. It’s not that deep. You can’t be mad that people are saying you can’t say this guy is cheating because of 1 small clip of him pressing FD lol.
@@PristineStudiosomeone who preemptively feigns within a fraction of a second and then backpedals in the same game is literally a bot. you realize, this is not reaction time, he basically had to use whatever ping he’s playing with in order to FD BEFORE cheap went off, right? as in, not a human reaction, because a human literally cannot react that fast. an average reaction time is like 2-300ms, he literally would have to have pressed FD instantaneously to get it off right as cheap went off. 100% a bot.
@@Sffker we are only saying he preemptively did it because he cheaped. But if he didn’t cheap and he just did it we would call him a noob. What if he randomly pressed cheap at the right time lol.
where? you make "insane" parses by getting buffed, pi, summer, different versa from enchants/trinkets/craftproccs on group, critchance by firemage/prescience(dmg of precience gets attributed to evoker, but the dmg from the additional crit does not) and having the correct fight duration(cutting off after your last burst). on the aoe fight you limit the people that are playing aoe specc, that's about it. a rotation bot or whatever isn't even needed, it's not like you have to ever press more than a button per global. so many factors you can't even control
Yeh it’s not that hard to play close to perfect rotation in a raid. I very rarely mess my rotation up. Parsing is also about luck and killtimers and playing with other good players. When I used to run with good players I would get top 50 parses, then I played with average players and would get an 85 parse cause the killtimer sucked, but I would also get 99% on add fight cause I could pad more as the adds lived longer
So you get an addon that tracks enemy global button presses, the bot tracks ur cheap shot and he instantly feign deaths. It's literally addons killing the game.
a normal human reaction is impossible to be that fast of a reaction time, nonetheless someone who could maybe press a button that fast or expect it wouldn’t be backpedaling at like 1900 😂 100% a bot
@@Sffkeryour brain dead. He got pulled out stealth. Against a rogue and mm. You fein for the damage reduction and hope they open. Its called hoping you get lucky. But hey if your dad pika says something and yall can only listen to what he says and not yluse your own brain I understand.
@@trentongardner2106 lol, you only feign for the dr when you have a good idea it’s coming, like seeing kidney/stun drs come off, or everyone switches to you, etc. you don’t just waste it like a brick. it wasn’t “luck” like you bots want to insist on it being. Pika pressed cheap BEFORE he feigned. literally watch the video, you sound real room temp rn
I’m not a fan of this new meta impossible to juke someone using a script these days as well as many other issues. Not fun for any caster/ healer. Meanwhile DH just steam roll how many nerfs they get this season alone? And people still playing them just sayin
Pikaboo talking to his past self is actually hilarious content
100% reminds me of dr disrepect, talking to his past self like he's having a full blown conversation
normie humour
@@Jordan-ck8jc”normie” 🤓
@@Jordan-ck8jc I cringed at you
Pika you are inspiration for new PvP'ers like me. I made ele shammy, because of you. Fully geared already and have a LOT of fun with it. Struggling at 1600 mmr, but hey - we've all been there right ? :D
Bot!! Jk 😊
Man chatgpt getting crazy out here
Back in my day when StarCraft came out and was a hot game I played ranked with people across the world. During gameplay I would type in “If lag occurs Alt-F4 is the correction”. A disconnect is a win/loss. I became rank 15 in the US with this one strategy. Unrelated but this reminded me of that.
the feign death before stun is actually very possible due to latency. i've feigned death a rogue stun before like that. it was a complete fluke but it happened and doesnt happen very often. i see a rogue coming at me so i feign death to drop his target, but sometime it fails and i get stunned anyways. even when the rogue is stealthed hunters can use "track hidden" ability found by the minimap and you can 100% see them coming at you while they are stealthed. track hidden has been in the game since vanilla wow, not many hunters use their tracking spells though i feel like its not very obvious as they arent in the spell book. i love pulling rogues outta stealth by just running around the arena map with camouflage and finding them trying to be sneaky lol
Its good to see all the streamers making videos about the cheating now. Its been like this for a while and I think that with more public pressure itll force Blizzard to do something.
I had this shit happen while playing my pally. A DH countered my stuns right as I didn’t them out right before.
please advocate Blizzard to implement a BOT CHECKING TEST for players to prevent cheating Pika
So many people giving the hunter the benefit of the doubt but let's look at the facts.
Go to 1:00 mark and play at 0.25 speed.
At 1:03 (first global cheap shot) the hunter feigns IN REACTION TO THE CHEAP. Not before it. Not after it. Their globals are perfectly syncd up and the initial dmg still lands but is reduced, this is the first red flag.
From the hunters perspective: Your camo has just broken first so you are the only revealed player in the Arena, obviously he can anticipate getting opened on by the Rogue or Hunter. It makes sense for Gemstone to feign the first global coming in from a hunter, but not a rogue, especially a stealthed rogue. At this point Shadewalker is still in Camo. In a 2's game with no healers why would you feign air like that?
Nothing about this makes sense it's just weird. There is a slight chance that it was just really perfect anticipation and timing, or a completely happy accident (maybe they pressed the wrong key altogether). You would have to be naive to not even consider the possibility its cheating though. Especially with what we have seen the bots do this expansion in PvP, this is definitely within the realms of possibility.
You fein cuz you hope they open and you get the damage reduction from the fein. Im bad and still understand why a player would wanna use fein there. Pika insta opens him when he put stealth too. Just a lucky press from a not good player. Pika gets one cd blocked and the guy has to be cheating lmao. Hes falling off. Too bad he use to be good at the game.
@@trentongardner2106 I wasn't born yesterday, not buying it for a second. Guy comes in to comments playing dumb and saying he doesn't know what a hack or script is. Please...
@@trentongardner2106 It would be one thing to just happen to feign right as Pika was going to open and get his rhythm off a bit.. But do you actually understand how tight the timing is on cheap shot actually landing, Pika getting unstealthed because of it, and still actually getting the feign effect off? Actually had to be pressed at like .01 second interval later. Doing it for damage reduction doesn't make any sense either, since that's a hella short window you wouldn't want to waste with no indication of getting opened on yet.
@Alellion hence that's he's inexperienced. As in this happened as an accident. You guys are so train by pika to do what he says it hurts. Listen I get it. You guys don't really care what happened. You just want pika to notice you. Just say that, though. Don't try to make stuff up to fit pikas' point. Just say you like to imagine pika placing his sack in your mouth.
_At __1:03__ (first global cheap shot) the hunter feigns IN REACTION TO THE CHEAP. Not before it. Not after it._
That's not right. On Pika's screen you see cheap shot being pressed before FD was used. On Hunter's screen you could see FD being pressed before cheap shot.
This doesn't prove or disprove anything.
_It makes sense for Gemstone to feign the first global coming in from a hunter, but not a rogue_
Yes but why do you assume he did it because of the rogue? You have no indicators for this. You only assume it because Pika said so and you see his pov. The hunter jumped out of stealth too and was in line.
In fact, we don't know why he pressed FD at all, it could have also been simply fat fingered.
_At this point Shadewalker is still in Camo._
Doesn't look like that for me but unfortunately we can't prove or disprove it with facts. Pika is not tracking his camo.
_In a 2's game with no healers why would you feign air like that?_
As we don't know if he simply fat fingered or not, why would you expect a low rated hunter to fully rational and perfect decisions? He is losing more games than he is winning for a reason. Just because the outcome of his action looks insane, doesn't mean that's what he had on his mind.
_You would have to be naive to not even consider the possibility its cheating though_
What exactly is the argument for this? In his later video Pika claims that the hunter pressed too many buttons too quick. Yet if you actually count it, he has like 1 button press per second. That's everything else than impressive. Unless something changed in the world and somehow everyone thinks 60 APM is inhuman?
What addon he use when stealth come out and its show class and race in the middle of screen at start? Thats nice.
Gladius
random question: is sub good for 3s, or outlaw is the way babyy?
Outlaw is better for 2s and 3s
just play what you prefer
I was dead when the interaction with himself happened lmfao
the talents your running in this video is this your go to for sub at the moment? Cheers pika
WOW needs to come out with a 1 vs 1 already so people without friends or the Pikaboo rizz can please Arena and not have to resort to using a bot/program. I'm sure that guys was losing his mind watching his "buddy" slowly backpedal while repeatedly trying to use Sniper Shot from close range (SMH). Regarding the Feign Death, sometimes you can hear and even see the stealthie characters (that iconic "swoosh" sound), but the rest of the match did look a little suspect.
Pika I need a updated suB rogue talent video. PLEASEEEEE
what is na queues tho? tank healer???
……echoing reprimand is good again?
Sometimes, I forget that Wow is an MP game and that all MP games are infected with cheaters.
i thought for a sec you were gonna watch back the watch back of you watching back
There discord servers with scripts for all players to get wins vs top rated players now, have a friend setting it up at the moment to try and queue pika constant to troll, I don’t support but there’s many doing this atm
Congrats on the baby pika!! 🎉 gonna be an awesome father
Started WoW on Xmas last year so about 2.5 months into game, made sub rogue, first character ever, slowly started learning that it’s like hardest character to play lmao but still been cooking ppl. One day I will be the TOP rogue
Gotta love conditional macros with auto-hotkey.
(shrug) its everywhere just with different abilities.
Is the mustache comming back?? 😂 Noooooooo
This guy a cheater for sure...
dude, theres been WAY TOO many bots, and i swear i mean like ALOOTTTTT now man, its not even fun playing arena thinking if the opponent is a bot or not anymore.
Dude if you think you have bots in every arena lemme tell you that's skill issue, that's just on you. I've found a lot of 1.6k players these days yelling ppl for "cheating". Im not going to assume at what level is your gamming, but wow its deffinetly not that broken, you wont find that many bots.
HAHAHAHAHAH talking to himself, amazing !!
Craziest fat finger ever right
ai smashing wow now
all the bots defending the other bots 😢
daamn editting clean 🔥
Fellow adventurers, I am Gemstone, the Hunter Extraordinaire. Accusations of cheating are but whispers against the thunderous clash of my bow and blade. My victories are earned through skill, not sorcery. Judge me by my deeds, not idle chatter. With unwavering resolve, Gemstone stands tall.
these comments are so fucking fried LOL
yeah it is funny, but if i look up retail, no if the boots are this strong, no i dont play it anymore
love this
Killing SLT insta before it even spawn is also cheating ?
Still got the link to jb’s yt channel at the end of vid btw
People been cheating in pvp since the game came out...why pvp sucks. Well that and flavor of the month classes...this season is dh and monk.
lol that hunter is definitely cheating and try to get out of it
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just saw a cheating ww yesterday, hope blizz deals with this soon...
Bro is just HIM. L2P Pika! :kappa:
Yo Gemstone not cheating ! im the feral with him on the video , i was helping him get 1800 .
Might want to delete this comment after Pika's latest video LOL
Im not sure how you can be 100% sure, if your friend was cheating/scripting unless you're on his computer, in his room with him, you cant know. SO why make a claim like this?
Cheaters often will do this behind even their friends/homies back, as they kinda live in a weird world of illusion where if everyone around them believes they can pulloff what the cheating is doing, then they feel like they did it themselves personally.
He's got 10k achive points, clearly played awhile, yet still isnt very good at the game. This is the exact type of person who resorts to cheating.
The most common Cheater type: The Noob.
-Not very skilled at game.
-Not mechanically skilled.
-Not gamesense skilled.
They begin to script/cheat.
Its like a FPS game, it becomes obvious to people who's cheating, because the "noob cheater" has no mechanical skill/awarness/gamesense, yet will do mechanical movements near perfectly.
An example in FPS being. a "Perfect spray" while firing an A.K. Which you'd only see really in pro scene rarely or by players with ALOT of games under their belt, but then they'd be all around good.
Despite this...their gamesense...is that of a begginner. Aka your friend here, does perfect mechanically timed abiltiies consistantly.
Yet he back peddals and can't do a rotation?
He is the definition.
If you genuinely believe your friend Gemstone, i suggest taking a step back, and wondering if he's been lying to you/be skeptical from now on. You could get perma banned 2 from association. So be careful.
But whats more likely (Is you know), as typically cheaters friends know all along.
But ill give u benefit of the doubt
no this kinda stuff just makes me not wanna play the game, seeems like i go against alot of people with kickbots, you can find out by sitting just outside range and spam kick and they will keep cancelling and start casting everytime you press it, might be coincidence but with how many of thes videos see i wouldnt be surpirsed if i have gone against people with that.
I mean there is a 0.1% chance that he just missclicked feint death lol. I can see that people actually pull this off by design but then they'd play better afterwards aswell. I myself loved to counter abilities by using another ability myself when I was playing pvp active like 10+ years ago. Like vanishing blinds/stuns/deepfreeze and stuff like that.
This is not what you are describing. He feigned death AFTER Pika hit cheapshot--that's not a .1% chance--that's .00000001%. Absolutely impossible.
Dude def wasn't cheating. Pika is getting way too used to calling people cheaters over everything and even sent his chat to report him. You fucking kidding me?
New Vid idea : Pikaboo commentary ft. guest speaker past-pikaboo
Cali was the state of the 70s-90s. Cali is no more. people need to let go.
I was there live lmaoooo
Imagine talking to ur self 10 mins ago 😂😂😂
took you 0.7 seconds to realize it was weird and only 0.001 seconds for him to feign your stun out of stealth hes just better stop complaining
I came from the latest video and am just copy pasting what I wrote there, hopefully to gain pika's attention : I checked out the previous video showing the full footage, your hunter partner got out of stealth and actually stayed out of stealth in the opener. As he was making his way towards the opponent hunter that is also out of stealth your hunter partner comes in his los and as soon as that happens the opposing hunter uses feign death in response, probably his own idea of cucking a hunt rogs opener. This makes the idea of the lucky timing of feign death on cheap possible, never impossible. During the time that your partner is out of stealth, the enemy hunter could easily put him on focus. Then afterwards, trinket tar trap looks very legit, into disengage focus-scatter into target hunter. This all seems to be his own premade up idea of countering a hunt rogs strong opener as hunter healer. And his comment response saying "the only reason he won" honestly seems like an emotional defense from the overwhelming cheating accusations of a well known streamer and his community. I understand there is a huge uprise in cheating especially as of lately, but to be quick to draw a conclusion of cheats, it has a much bigger impact on a person's life than you might think. As you said he is a main tank in your sister's boyfriend's guild, I wonder what's happened ever since. You might owe an apology here Jason.
A hunter thats backpeddling isnt pulling off that FD, trap, disengage, AND scattering Pikas partner all within a single global. If you dont understand that this is scripting, then you just dont know the game.
@@him7487 But that's the thing, it wasn't all in a single global, actually @Wetdreamcast comment on the latest video does a wonderful job saying the exact amount of frames each button took. A late trinket into an instant trap is very very basic and quite easy to do. And the disengage was not even instantly after. It took quite a bit of frames compared to the trinket trap. Disengage + Focus scatter is VERY easy to press at the same time too. If you read what I wrote, he could have easily put the hunter who was out of stealth for a solid 10 seconds in his focus. On top of that, this is all clearly his way of countering an opener, of course everything will be pressed as fast as possible when he already knows what he wants to do before hand.
@Nayef and let's not forget after that tournament level cc chain off the opener, does a sniper shot from 2 feet away. You're either trolling, or someone stuck at 1200 that has no idea how the game works. It also was in a single global, the trap was already triggered before the disengage was used, it was instant. It's a script, very simple, any decent player can spot it instantly, as Pika did.
@@him7487 I'm sorry but what is so difficult of a trinket>trap?
@Nayef why are you pretending that's all that happened? He FD at the exact second of a cheap shot, trinket, disengage, trap, and scatters Pikas teammate in a single global. No human is doing that. I'm not gonna try and convince you like I said, you're either just trolling or just don't understand the game. Good luck.
I don't like this look for Pika.
Sure, we can all laugh at the bots and they are extremely obvious. But this is a isolated incident. After he does his godplay FD, he then proceeds to trinket late, panic, heal, turtle die. After seing what some of the other bots are doing, this would not be how a bot goes out. This feels off brand for Pika.
He is 200% cheating. Still plays like shit, but cheating without a doubt
@@innocentloli5420 You might be sure of that without a doubt. But this is not enough evidence to post a clip about. All the other clips we've seen in the last couple months are so damning it's comical. This is sus, and probably cheating. But this couldn't be brought to a court and carry a sentence is what I mean. People should calm this judge attitude man.
Bots defending bots
Watch the new Pika video. It's more than the FD
didn’t know u were asian until u said it bro
There’s a chance that this guy will get banned because of this video, and he isn’t even cheating..
Almost a guarantee he will get banned. If i worked at blizz and saw this id run pika up with a week off the game, and let him try his variety streaming career.
Don’t worry my guys, don’t feel bad, he’s cheating
what answer can players have in this game when u play against r1 tournament player at 1800 tr? Hope there will be more bots this game & it will be ruined more than even now. For avervage player in 3vs3 its unplayable even at 1800mmr, u need to play reeeeealy good 2 win smth...I play since classic, state in which WOW is right now is worst that happened expecially this SoloQ
You can't improve past 1400 if you only ever face 1400 players. Grow a pair and accept that you're gonna lose some of your arenas.
@@PhenomRom mate, get me right, i know that playing versus strongest opponent is a way 2 improve, but if u face only players who much far with skillz, game sense & exp is like a from other realmz challenge. I still cant get my 2100 at 2vs2 cause each player I met there is alr a glad or 2400+ exp player this season
Have you considered getting good?
you got ptsd with these bots this hunter accidentally fiend the cheap all of a sudden his a cheat?? u play arena everyday run into these bots daily ofcourse u have ptsd
It's impossible to have that happened accidentally at that exact timing...
@@DemonXTnot impossible, just HIGHLY unlikely. Did it a few times in my years on AT server back in wotlk.
@@DemonXT the only thing that is impossible is to use pre feign like that unless its a coincidence. Considering dude did nothing aside from dying after that id say he probably didnt cheat, atleast there aint no proof of it in this video
Let's even say the feign is lucky, he than insta trinkets, throws tar trap, disenganges, swaps targets twice, and scatters the hunter - almost all in a global. He goes from pressing like 6 buttons in 1 second to then AFK casting sniper shot at melee range and back peddling. It seems really sus how he can perform the initial bit, but then struggle to even move later on...@@kimandrermo4196
bro hes probably right. He's literally the best player in the game bro, has an elite rating on every class and spec, won AWC. that being said we just need a BOT CHECK system for players
Definitely a bot, ban em
If Gemstone is cheating he is really bad at it at over 500 games played and less than 50% wins lmfao
Ye I mean, you can be cheating and still be super shit in terms of gameplay awareness, which leaves you completely relying on the script or w/e to survive.
@@awildfiskis your brain ok? It seems like its almost as fried as pika's.
Na, you have no exp with cheaters then. I'll use FPS game as example.
Noob starts cheating since they suck.
They suck, so their gamesense/awarness is horrible, they dont know peak angles, where to nade, ect.
Yet...their aim, and spray is perfect, and they always know where the enemy is despite clearly looking like a new player in all other terms.
This is the most common type of cheater. "The noob" and they usually get caught. And respond with. "OOOO but look i have such bad gamesense how could i be cheating?" Its like bruh...use your brain.
Clearly he fits the bill. Backpeddals, absolutely horrible positioning,
yet does near-perfect r1/pro/highlyexperienced mechanical counter-useage of abilities that usually require prediciton, yet he does them without it.
Its not consistant, not impossible, but is highly unlikely.
@@trentongardner2106
It was just one lucky Feign Death from a noob, not a big deal
it used to be a "trick", waaaay back in cata or mop i dont remember you could stack with your pet and the moment you heard the rogue or see his gladius hp bar show up press FD and 2-3 out of 10 rogue was going to open on my pet and not me
Wasn't lucky it was cheats
He could have just done a random faint for no reason since he’s low rating. Saying that guy is cheating based on one move that could 100% be random is pretty fried
i bet you still back pedal
@@butterphli3z i bet you stink
@@butterphli3z unforch, you bet wrong
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1 lucky button press doesn’t mean he is cheating.
Stop.
@@VosmalusStop what? This hunter isn't even close to cheating. He's so bad at the game and it's obvious.
@@Lloocii It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. There is no reason to fat finger or miss click anything in that very second. It's a bot or he's spamming script waiting for rogue opener.
@@Vosmalus Go look at his record. Watch his game play. He's not cheating. Shush now. It IS obvious that you don't know a damn thing about bots and scripting. It's OK though suckle up to the teat.
@@Lloocii His record has nothing to do with it, cheating/scripting doesn't make you good if you suck. Use your brain man, and Pika is a really good veteran player, he doesn't say crap without being able to tell somethings not right. Now you shush.
Pika, I am curious, are you and your mods deleting to comments or is it youtube?
Gemstone it's clear this is your alt account, you are going crazy in both video's comments LOL. It's over. You lost
Gaystone
Every time someone does something faster than pikaboo once
“ *Is this guy cheating??* “
context is important, pay attention to the timing
@@maxim2465 ur delusional if you think it was cheating.
@@maxim2465your part of the problem. Your overlord pika says something and like a good sheepy you fall right in line.
Faster than Pikaboo? This is literally inhuman. The only way this could happen is by completely random chance which is really unlikely (although possible)
Nobody is feigning a cheap intentionally
death first cheap shot. insta trinket second cheap, target enemy hunter while trapping pika in 3-4 secs window. buddy for sure is cheating
The FD could've been accidental, but all the other stuff he did right after was crazy...
What exactly? Trinket into trap + fd? Or swap target and scatter? What exactly was so impressive and why? lol
@@shadowbanned3044 Yeah all of that within a global for someone who claims to know nothing about the game and indeed plays like they know nothing about that game. It's sus af at MINIMUM.
@shadowbanned3044 a hunter that doesnt even know not to backpeddle is pulling all that off in a single global. Yeah...sure.
@@him7487
Watch the video. He presses around one button per one second. (which is VERY slow btw, just saying, that's 60 apm lmao) Yet, what exactly is impressive? He is literally not doing anything special, you could say it's on the same level as backpaddling....
@@GramadinGG He is pressing around ONE button per one SECOND, that's not all in one global. Technically 60 APM is very slow. And what he did, is not even the right move, at least most of the time, nor is it somehow "hard to press" or... what do I call it? Like I am not even sure which part exactly looks like cheating... cheating is for me when someone pulls off something very impressive and/or barely human possible in a short amount of time without fails. That's not what happened here, like not at all.
All the guy does is his favorite disengage macro against a melee, which 99% low rated hunters do as the first button against a melee btw... and then he does his noob combo, which is scatter into sniper shot... I mean you have even outdated guides for this.
So he does something very basic, with around one button press per second and he fails to actually control pika or to escape him. So what exactly is "sus" here?
I don't see it's cheating but it's the same mili second Pikabo's teammate got in line with the hunter and he pressed FD
I feel like he pressed feign death when he saw the hunter in his line tbh, but I could very well be wrong, if was a script feel like would have played alot better than that, match was so short so who knows haha
You think scripters are good players? lmao
Not saying the hunter is scripting, but at least this theory can not be correct, if you go frame by frame in the video, the hunter on Pikas team is still in stealth when Feign is used.
@@SebboTheFro Hunter is out of stealth before Pika, the timers dont line up, he cant be in stealth when pika opens.
@@duggix2362 What are you talking about? Literally just watch the video and go frame by frame, Pikas teammate is in stealth when the enemy hunter presses Feign, theres nothing more to it.
@@SebboTheFro Yeah, the frames are extremely blurry, and to me it looks like the hunter breaks out at about a reaction time before Pika opens. It's seems more clear the first time Pika is reviewing it himself, not when it happens.
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find it funny, we had to play against bots on around 1500 and know u are whining, u get what u deserve, it was in shadowlands this way.
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Clearly a lucky feint
feint is a rogue ability bud, I dont think you even know what game were talking about here.
@@Emperor_Shao_Kahn You clearly didnt get the point of the comment....
people defending a 50 MS feign death. crazy to see integrity die in every form on wow.
Lol. Dude hit FD 1 time at the perfect moment and now he’s a cheater and should get banned ? Literally one singular peace of “evidence” is enough for you to throw away the key lol. Glad you’re just a wow gamer and not a police officer or judge.
@@PristineStudioi said a 10 word sentence and you made a whole story off of it brother.
even with minimal systems, it's not difficult for blizzard to investigate, but more importantly than a hunter scripting FD at 1900 MMR (somehow higher than u) - they just need to implement an anti-cheat system and make display they give a damn.
sincerely, spend 10 minutes looking up wow cheats, AHK, etc. you think the anger is directed at this "lucky" (lol) player when if you had basic clue of what programs these people are using, you'd see exactly what the issue is.
@@Xohslol what if he just pressed FD lol ? This game is very fast paced. There was plenty times I pressed “intercept” as a warrior and ate a cheap shot. It’s not that deep. You can’t be mad that people are saying you can’t say this guy is cheating because of 1 small clip of him pressing FD lol.
@@PristineStudiosomeone who preemptively feigns within a fraction of a second and then backpedals in the same game is literally a bot. you realize, this is not reaction time, he basically had to use whatever ping he’s playing with in order to FD BEFORE cheap went off, right? as in, not a human reaction, because a human literally cannot react that fast. an average reaction time is like 2-300ms, he literally would have to have pressed FD instantaneously to get it off right as cheap went off. 100% a bot.
@@Sffker we are only saying he preemptively did it because he cheaped. But if he didn’t cheap and he just did it we would call him a noob. What if he randomly pressed cheap at the right time lol.
Does anyone care if someone cheats in a dead game?
first
You should see the cheating in PVE. I've seen some guildees get some pretty insane parses recently. They just play perfectly.
where? you make "insane" parses by getting buffed, pi, summer, different versa from enchants/trinkets/craftproccs on group, critchance by firemage/prescience(dmg of precience gets attributed to evoker, but the dmg from the additional crit does not) and having the correct fight duration(cutting off after your last burst). on the aoe fight you limit the people that are playing aoe specc, that's about it. a rotation bot or whatever isn't even needed, it's not like you have to ever press more than a button per global. so many factors you can't even control
Yeh it’s not that hard to play close to perfect rotation in a raid. I very rarely mess my rotation up.
Parsing is also about luck and killtimers and playing with other good players.
When I used to run with good players I would get top 50 parses, then I played with average players and would get an 85 parse cause the killtimer sucked, but I would also get 99% on add fight cause I could pad more as the adds lived longer
So you get an addon that tracks enemy global button presses, the bot tracks ur cheap shot and he instantly feign deaths. It's literally addons killing the game.
a normal human reaction is impossible to be that fast of a reaction time, nonetheless someone who could maybe press a button that fast or expect it wouldn’t be backpedaling at like 1900 😂 100% a bot
@@Sffker ye good breakdown of it
@@Sffkeryour brain dead. He got pulled out stealth. Against a rogue and mm. You fein for the damage reduction and hope they open. Its called hoping you get lucky. But hey if your dad pika says something and yall can only listen to what he says and not yluse your own brain I understand.
@@trentongardner2106 lol, you only feign for the dr when you have a good idea it’s coming, like seeing kidney/stun drs come off, or everyone switches to you, etc. you don’t just waste it like a brick. it wasn’t “luck” like you bots want to insist on it being. Pika pressed cheap BEFORE he feigned. literally watch the video, you sound real room temp rn
Maybe he's just a bot and fientdeathed by accident LOL
Bro... funniest video I've seen in awhile watching pika talk to himself
Dead Gamemode, what you expect? Hope for Solo RBGs.
Who cares its retail wow for the 1%
You’re the 99% classic?
ooooooooof, no ending credits with JB but still got the channel link there
Are they not team mates anymore?
@@LiamH03489 No they kicked JellyBeans a week ago.
@@JaxonRabbit ouch don't suppose ya know why?
@@LiamH03489 there's speculation, absterge said it was a long time coming, its pika's team too, so will wait for his side of the story
@@JaxonRabbit ah ok thanks for the info
I’m not a fan of this new meta impossible to juke someone using a script these days as well as many other issues. Not fun for any caster/ healer. Meanwhile DH just steam roll how many nerfs they get this season alone? And people still playing them just sayin
the fact you think kids cheat in wow is hilarious!!! its a game u cant really cheat in... new kids comin in murking you is amzing
Imagine still playing Wow
You wouldn’t be if you were an actual multi millionaire from it orrrrr?
@@frostgodx no I like girls
@@JamsheedRPGgodNot playing wow but still enjoy watching videos about the game huh? 😅
@@JamsheedRPGgod Kinda weird to be talking about ur sister like that
@@Emperor_Shao_Kahn i bet you’re Chinese looking