Panorama on the Conservative leadership 1995
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- Panorama on BBC 1 holds a studio debate on the Conservative leadership contest in July 1995. Candidate John Redwood is questioned by supporters of John Major; Major's team provides Brian Mawhinney as a substitute for the Prime Minister.
TX 3.7.95
John Major caught the rebels off guard. They probably wanted Portilo and they ended up with the very uninspiring John Redwood.
At 36:03 I think that's Daniel Hannan, future Conservative MEP.
Yes i am pretty sure too. Though I have never seen him wearing glasses before.
And the man at 35:15 is David Coburn, now a Ukip MEP and contender in the party's 2017 leadership race.
Astonishingly, Hannan is only 23 here, but looks like a granddad. He looked older in 1995 than he does in 2019.
L Georgiou He’s like Benjamin Button
@@BossySwan unlike Iain Duncan Smith - he's 64 now and looks about 64 in this as well!
The way this is structured it feels like a criminal trial.
IT WAS THANKS TO THE DIRTY TRICKS DEPARTMENT OF TORY CENTRAL OFFICE WHO LITTERED THE AUDIENCE WITH MAJOR DIE HARDS
It mattered very little who was leading the Conservatives by the time of the next General Election because as soon as Blair became Labour leader in '94 it was game over. If Redwood had become Prime Minister he also would have lost in 1997.
I’m not even sure Blair’s ascension to the Labour leadership made much difference.
By the mid 90s the “time-for-a-change” mantra simply swamped everything else.
Voters were just bored after 18 years of the same party and wanted a different government.
Europe, sleaze, tax rises - they were practically irrelevant, but we’re trumpeted as reasons (by the media and the public) because it made for a more interesting narrative.
@@andrewrobinson8305 yes it was already game over for the Tories after Black Wednesday in September 1992, or at the very latest when they put VAT on fuel in March 1993. The 1997 election was already won for Labour at that point, and they had a 20 point lead or so in the polls before John Smith died.
Blair’s charisma, appeal to Middle England and appeal to the Murdoch media, ensured that the margin of Labour’s win was bigger though. Under Smith they would have won a very comfortable majority, at least as big as the current Tory one if not bigger, but not one pushing 180 like they did under Blair.
A toilet brush would have made a better fist of it.
@@andrewrobinson8305 its back again time for a change
This isn’t a debate this is a inter-party squabble broadcast on live tv. Reminds me of the presidential primary debates here in the states
blue on blue
Is that David Coburn MEP (UKIP) at 35:08?
Certainly looks and sounds like him. Coburn was in the Conservatives in the 1990s, and was at one point Treasurer of the Bow Group.
Wow, I had no idea. What a mind blow.
yes he quit
I'm here now reminded with Sunak(Major) v Johnson
Party debates during election are interesting as this one back in 1995.
I much like John Redwood. He didn’t have a huge amount Ministerial experience at the time of this leadership election but I would’ve liked him to be Prime Minister. I like him ideologically although I personally don’t identify as a Thatcherite. He had and still has great ideas. He is old now but still I’d take him over Boris at the moment and someone of his experience now should really have a Ministerial post if he wants one.
he had an interesting view of late about helping the poor. It was a rivalry of working class men
What if Redwood had somehow managed to become party leader and Prime Minister?
Then he would have resigned after losing to Blair in 97
He would've lost in 97 and probably seen some moderates defect to the lib dems
It's the same right now again they haven't learned from this
Tories largely lost the 97 election due to Black Monday. After Black Monday, the Tories never won a poll again during that era. The economy was even strong and flourishing at the time of the election but they had lost the public trust over Black Monday
Redwood would of been the best for the conservative wing of the party. Hes a true patriot.
He’s an out of touch right winger
He has no personality though, totally unelectable.
It’s “would’ve” or “would have”.
Not “would of”.
I remember this well. Major,having lost his majority and control of the party sacked himself in order to try and regain control. It would have been better if he'd just went to the Queen and held an election. The only thing was at the time,had he done that,the Tories would have ended up with less than 100 MPs.
John Major still had a majority in 1995, as Dimbleby pointed out at the start of the programme. It was not until the end of 1996 that he lost his Commons majority. But he knew if he called a General Election he was heading for a huge defeat which came to pass in 1997.
Sunak is in the same position so was T May 2019
I believe Dr Redwood is the only British politician who had a PhD in Economics. Not even Keynes had a Doctorate Degree?
I don't think he does. He did a DPhil in History.
Do you have the one of 1990 leadership
I don't. There weren't any debates that I remember. Mrs Thatcher would certainly not have wanted to give Heseltine credibility by personally debating against him, and would have discouraged any of her supporters from doing so. The second round was a bit more open but the campaign was mostly fought in the newspapers. This was the moment the result of the first ballot was announced: th-cam.com/video/v_84HM1e7RY/w-d-xo.html
David Boothroyd Mrs Thatched I thought not but maybe the 3 after her. Major Hurd and Heseltine. Did they do any documentaries on them, interviews with wives etc...?
Don't remember any. (I wasn't recording political programmes then anyway)
The real stars of this are Fowler, Mellor, IDS, and Legg!
Even then they was a bickering group of dutty 🔔 ends….. no different since 2010 to present day ….
P.s I HATE STARMER
LOOKS LIKE JOHNS ON MASTERMIND
IDS looks like the real life version of Monty Burns from The Simpsons
the bald head 😂
john blackwood more like
Guy to the left at 36:50 is very attractive.
her right
Good gracious, John Redwood was unpleasant.
Still is
He doesn't think so.
He was polite. When was he rude?
Redwood is a great man and would have been a far more effective PM than Major or any other Tory PM since. It is a tragedy that a man of his talents was never leader of the party.
Fruit cakes and Looney 2023
38:52 UKIP Central Committee
Gammon galore
@@hakc97again fuck you
@@hakc97again ruthless bars
Everett this day, John Redwood remains a trouble-making rent-a-gob.
"Tomorrow could see Britain with a new Prime Minister chosen not by the voters but by a tiny electorate of MPs."
DO
FUCKING
TELL
2016 Thresea May
2019 Boris Johnson
@@199019852007 2007 Gordon Brown
@@kennyryan625 2007 was a little less egregious because we were told it was going to happen before we voted in 2005
No, it was heavily rumoured.
But we certainly weren’t told officially. There was no government statement, nor was it in their manifesto.
@@andrewrobinson8305 I distinctly remember Tony saying he'd leave during his third term if he got one.
john redwood was so boring. like major at least was slightly likable