Hi, I'm an Argentinian, and I know a story about an old guy with his wife who appeared to be german arriving to my grandfather's town in 1945 and stayed there, everyone knew them because they were very wierd, very shy and that they made a house completely underground, like a bunker, they barely knew Spanish, but they and my grandfather became friends, they met at Christmas (because they had no family) and they reveals where he was from but never told anybody why they were there. Suddenly, One day the military came to the town for no apparent reason, and suspiciously this German guy and his wife disappeared. Sorry for the grammar mistakes, my English is pretty bad
I'm american, I lived in Argentina in the 70's when I was a kid. Part of my family were Germans, they had a big ranch and I used to go there to learn the trade. One day, several nice old guys showed up and stayed for a night, they all spoke German. That night we were all in front of the fireplace and one of those men came close to me and took me in front of the big fire, he had a cartridge from my uncle's 44-40, he took the lead bullet out and put it in the little iron shovel that was part of the fireplace's tools. He then put the shovel into the fire and melted the lead. When the lead was liquid he took the shovel out and said : "I'm going to put this hot lead into this glass of water, when it cools it will form a shape that will determine who you will be in the future" The lead fell into the glass and cooled, we both agreed that it had formed a motorcycle helmet.... Next day after they left, mon oncle said : "You know who they were ? Ex U-Boat crewmembers..." And by the way, I have already bought and sold more than 55 motorcycles and I still ridding... Cheers !
Steve P these boats amongst others that did not surrender were running supplies to a secret German base located in Antarctica. This is fact and later there was an attempt to flush the Germans out during “Operation High-jump” in 1947 that ended badly for the American convoy.
Stories like this remind me of that one story of which a Japanese soldier didn't surrender until the 1960's. He only surrendered when his former commander told him the war was over decades past.
Well.......LOL...I suppose they did their duty like anyone else. In fact most allied veterans would sympathise with them....it is just loud left wing activsits that would criticise. I knew a number of British WW2 veterans and I did not know any that hated the German military. The politicians (of all countries) are another matter.
I lived in ARG in the early 90's and had german-argentine girlfriend. Her father told me it is was an open secret all the nazis living in their neighborhood in the decades after WWII. Although born in argentina their home language was german and always seemed more german than artgentine to me.
My father was a sailor on a submarine which was on a secret mission - the boat did not have a published number that I can find, neither can the authorities in Germany. They can't find him on any crew list. They sailed in the Argentina region and stopped at Buenos Aires to make repairs, during which time he went ashore for R&R. The boat then returned towards Germany and was sunk somewhere in the Bay of Biscay with the loss of all but 7 crew, who escaped via the airlock hatch. Last man was left with a revolver. The 7 were rescued by a ship of some kind and landed somewhere along the French coast and taken as a POW to Wales, where he was held till 1947. After returning to Germany he hated the life there and applied for emigration to Argentina with mum and us 2 kids. Argentinian quota was constantly full so he did the next best thing and migrated to Tasmania, as far away from Schleswig Holstein as it is possible to go without going back :) I'm very glad to have grown up here in Aus rather than Argentina. I would love to know what his mission had been but he never talked much about his experiences, first getting severley wounded in Russia in 1942 and then being assigned to the submarine corps because he could not march with his demolished leg.
your probably right, they parked up outside Coney Island for a couple of weeks, had some overdue shore leave then headed south when they run short of cash.
I met two old Germans in SA could most likely shed some light. The older locals only knew they appeared one day from sea at the end of the war and spent the rest of their life working and managing shipyards. They are great to talk to but NEVER let the subject of their origin go to far.
Why in the world would you take huge amounts of food - in secret - from a place where there's great food shortages to where there's no particular shortage of food.
So, the captain didn't talk - made up a half-credible cover story. But apparently no one else in the crew did either, and that is kind of amazing discipline.
Thank you Mark for such interesting and informative films. I'm unable to support you financially but really hope you are able to continue your project. Bless you and yours: with respect G
i live about 5 miles from the port were the subs docked, theres a small submarine museum located at the port were there are uniforms and other items like documents etc from the crew and subs.
Amazing and fascinating story. These man were clearly very loyal even after Germany surrendered. The mission was clearly sold to them as being of great importance. Thank you Mark for covering this.👍
In October 1945 I saw 2 German submarines in a southerly direction in the South Atlantic, in front of Prov. De Santa Cruz-Argentina, from the ship ARAUCO of the Interoceanic Cia of Chile. - Unforgettable to my 7 years of age at that time. Irrefutable memory
There is quite a lot of supporting evidence for this, look for my comment upthread. There is a rail line from San Antonio Oeste to Bariloche and many now declassified reports mention submarines have been seen by locals.
Probably just moved some higher rank officials to pre-established South American locations so those officials wouldn't have to deal with Allied interrogations, internment etc. And could be that some u-boats didn't know whether Donitz was going to continue the war or not..
Would appreciate your continued attention to the waning days. Die Spinne, Rat Lines, Vatican, Spain, Argentina. All are fertile and seem to me to be underreported. How in the heck you can crank these out daily beats me. Very high quality, and so polite at the end! Love your videos!!
You should probably read my book The Last Nazis - it covers all this in some detail: www.amazon.com/Last-Nazis-Hunt-Hitlers-Henchmen/dp/1848842864/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544631725&sr=8-1&keywords=the+last+nazis+felton
Have you ever heard of the story in which, during the battle of the bulge, an area changed hands so many times that the German and American medics stayed behind when their main force had been pushed back to help the wounded?
Yes, in Hürtgenwald. There is a statue to commemorate the German Wehrmacht Doctor. Unfortuanattly and very sad, the political correct lobby (Green, left wing, liberals etc) in Germany ordered the destruction of the Bunkers some years ago. I visited them before the destruction. If you ever go there you can still see a lot of bunkers etc. A very good book on this, if you can read German: Trees - Hölle im Hürtgenwald. There is in the area also a small but very interesting museum on this battle in Germany. This is the German Wehrmachts Officer/Doctor: th-cam.com/video/NXyn7b3UnWM/w-d-xo.html
If the german high command built a base in antartica underneath the ice during and completed before the end of the war, their decision to go to Antarctica must have been made quickly. This can explain why he was ordered to fill the uboat sub 977 with such vast amount of food to feed the many bodies who made it successfully to this base.
In a word, "ODESSA". Whole families were transported out of Europe at the end of the war. The U.S. military caught wind of a German installation in Antarctica and sent ships and personnel to check it out (Operation Highjump), under Admiral Byrd, and got their asses kicked by an unknown force in New Schwabia. Byrd and Secretary Forrestal never disclosed what they found, but years later Forrestal mysteriously fell to his death while under medical treatment for a mental breakdown. Rumors have it that he was running down the halls yelling about flying saucers.
When I was going to a primary school in south America a German guy was hired to greet the children, kind of a doorman, he was about 60 and he was a very nice person. Once in awhile he would start screaming and crying in German and of course nobody knew what to do or why he did that but everybody hugged him and he just kept on crying, I would bet he was an ex German soldier traumatized for he saw and have to lived for so many days and nights. Poor guy, it broke my heart to see an adult person be in so much pain and not be able to help him.
I can’t help but wonder if any of the completed, but uncommissioned Type XXI U-Boots could have been “appropriated” prior to their assembly point being overrun and sent off for a very specific final mission at the end of the war.
The Nazi's with at least half a brain would have wanted out of Germany a while before the Allies were at Germany's borders. Most of them were corrupt too, so I can imagine it would be possible to buy safe passage out of the European Theatre with the right connections. These U Boats were most likely running a ferry service for some time to Argentina. Another really good video !
Yea thats what I was thinking. Everybody keeps saying "Hittler" but quite a few other high ranking Nazi ended up in Argentina after the war and they would want to buy the silence of Argentinian authorities. That and nobody wants a bunch of freeloading "refugees".
@Get Some! They were definitely not idiots but the point I'm making is that a vast amount would see the war out in a blaze of glory for Hitler, but those who saw past his doctrine would have wanted out and save their skins.
I would think of them carrying people too, but the thing i don't understand is why the highest ranks weren't among them. They surely were the kind of people not wanting to be held responsible for their doings.
Another excellent video, Mark. Thank you. As a 10-year old, I read the book "U977." I remember this story. The information you present here is all new to me, and reinforces the many stories I have heard over the years about Germans who escaped to South America. I should think it pretty obvious the U977 had a mission. Keep at your research. I hope you might find more information regarding this mission. The Captain of the U-boat lived in Argentina, but died at the age of 57. I wonder. Was his death a natural one?
Some deals were made after the war, you aquire alot of wealth after you invade that many countries, the weight of the guns/torpedos were replaced with gold id imagine.
I find parts of this story hard to believe. You mention that U-977 leaves Bergen on May 10 and then heads to Frederikshavn in Denmark where she takes on large amounts of stores. Denmark was officially liberated (German surrender) on May 5 so I really think it sounds very unlikely that a German submarine would be allowed to enter the port of Frederikshavn, take on supplies and stores and then leave, a week after the Danish liberation. Surely the port of Frederikshavn including any German navy assets would be under Danish/Allied control by then `??
In July of the year 1945 in Argentina a woman who lives near the coast of southern Argentina when leaving her house to lay out clothes a submarine, for 15 minutes about 1500 meters away and about 100 meters from the beach, many they say that Germans were in that sector every year many Divers and group of people try to find the remains of that submarine or something like that
In 1977 I was a young British backpacker having a tea in Ascuncion, Paraguay’s swankiest hotel.(well you gotta live a little). I was amazed to realise that so many older guys, in white linen suits were all speaking German. The atmosphere was surreal, and I did not feel at all comfortable and left shortly. Especially as earlier one of these guys had offered me $1000 for my passport. An eerie experience.
Schon mal gefragt warum die Graf Spee im Vorfeld des Krieges genau in diesen Gewässern operiert hat? Es waren argentinische (& Chilenische) Frachter die von Deutschland aus gesponsert wurden, welche die großen Maschinenteile ab 1939 bis nach Argentinien und von dort mit Versorgungs U-Booten (Milchkühe) durch die Unterwasserpassagen in die Antarktis transportierten. Es gab mehr Milchkühe als offiziell angegeben, die ersten Transport U-Boote wurden im 1. Weltkrieg gebaut. Das Höhlensystem in der Arktis wurden den deutschen Geheimgesellschaften schon vor dem ersten Weltkrieg gezeigt und man kooperierte schon damals mit seinen zukünftigen "Gastgebern/Alienoverlords". Daher auch der Falklandkrieg, die Engländer hatten jahrzehntelang nicht mitbekommen dass unterirdische Einrichtungen direkt vor ihrer Nase waren. Referenz hierzu: South Sandwich Islands / Insel Southern Thule
@@Republic3D Exactly, and Adolf Hitler shaved his beard and opened with Eva a boutique in Buenos Aires. And if they have not died, they still live today.... really
My grandfather who work in the meat works at the "Swift Frigorifico" in Berisso City, told my father He once have to load a UBoat at the factory docks.
they were clearly carring Party officals and VIP's from germany,south America was welcoming to Fascist from Italy and Germany,others ran to Franco's Spain
I would think that with each U-boat carrying 30+/- crew on board, that someone would have been able to answer the mystery if not then than in their dying days.
We saw U-977 on a photo twice in this photo, the first time at around 2:30. In the background is a white boat, it looks like a submarine but is it? It has a strange "indentation" along its starboard side.
Thats a type IX u-boat with a "Schnelltauchback", a late war modification to increase diving speed by deleting the external torpedo storage containers. See: ic.pics.livejournal.com/olt_z_s/16238543/34687/34687_640.jpg
The one in the background with the cut-out in the fore of the hull is a Type IXC/40. They were slightly heavier than your usual Type IXC, however had a bit longer range and quicker dive speed, though most of them didn't feature a deck gun.
The white-ish boat is the U-530, you can see it written in black on the bow in a hand writting. The "indentation" is a modification applied to many Type IX U-boats, cutting the sides of the upper deck and reducing its width in a attempt to reduce the drag while diving, making the time it take for this massive 76m boat shorter.
Hitler didn't die in no bunker in Berlin and a lot of high ranking VIP's made it out of Germany ending up in South America, the U-Boats were how they were getting there. I bet one day when Argentina finally gets it's act together and joins the first world you'll find a lot of scuttled U-Boats just off the coast down there. The aft torpedo space was empty for passenger transport, to bad all involved are dead and gone now, their stories would have made for some fascinating movies and books.
Hello, I am from Argentina, also lived in Mar del Plata many yeards, when I was at high school at mar del plata our history teacher was a guy that loves to talk and talk, he also told us many fantastic stories, at that time we thought that he was a bit cracy because one of the stories was that submarines from Germany arrived at the cost near Mar del Plata and unloaded people and material. Now he is dead but the fact is that all south america is plagued with ex Nazis, and yes specially argentina with Peron offered a safe heaven in esxchange fro bribes, but Peron also simpatized a lot with Mussolini. Years later many of them where caught but also some of them cooperated with CIA in the fight against communist, when the URSS turned out ot be a much bigger problem graving one latin country after another with revolutions, in particular "the Lion's butcher" Barby was at Bolivia and was a close ally of US and UK.... before you say that i am crzy too: n 1947, Barbie was recruited as an agent for the 66th Detachment of the U.S. Army Counterintelligence Corps (CIC).[13] The U.S. used Barbie and other Nazi Party members to further anti-communist efforts in Europe. Specifically, they were interested in British interrogation techniques which Barbie had experienced firsthand, and the identities of SS officers the British were using for their own ends. Later, the CIC housed him in a hotel in Memmingen, and he reported on French intelligence activities in the French zone of occupied Germany because they suspected that the French had been infiltrated by the KGB and GRU.[14] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Barbie
You are not wrong. In my book The Last Nazis I dealt with the rat lines and Vatican involvement in getting Nazis to South American. Peron's Argentina took thousands and thousands, and interestingly was the only South American nation to develop its own indigenous jet aircraft programme (I think I can guess where the technical know-how came from!).
This Group that was seen in Argentina was part of the Durnitz Antartica mission ; 8 or 10 Uboats only 2 were recoverd by the Allies ; what happened to the others ?
En Octubre de 1945 vi 2 submarinos alemanes en dirección sur en Atlántico Sur, frente a Prov. de Santa Cruz-Argentina, desd el buque ARAUCO de la Cia Interoceánica de Chile.- Inolvidable a mis 7 años de edad en ese entonces. Irrefutable recuerdo!
Karl Donitz is reported to have said the following quote in 1943 "the German submarine fleet is proud of having built for the Führer, in another part of the world, a Shangri-La on land, an impregnable fortress" *The* *Plot* *Thickens*
This is incorrect. His DNA from captured bodies captured outside his bunker bt Soviet troops identified him as Adolf. He was most assuredly, dead. I believe this was done in 2009 but I could be mistaken on the time-frame.
@@prof2yousmithe444 If this is true, Stalin himself wouldn't have said he believed Hitler to be alive after the war, the supposed body of Hitler's the Russians have wouldn't have been female, and the FBI wouldn't have been looking into Hitler being alive post war. I don't know what happened, and I don't claim to, but the idea that the major world powers were looking for Hitler after the war is more than just coincidence.
Hi, I'm an Argentinian, and I know a story about an old guy with his wife who appeared to be german arriving to my grandfather's town in 1945 and stayed there, everyone knew them because they were very wierd, very shy and that they made a house completely underground, like a bunker, they barely knew Spanish, but they and my grandfather became friends, they met at Christmas (because they had no family) and they reveals where he was from but never told anybody why they were there. Suddenly, One day the military came to the town for no apparent reason, and suspiciously this German guy and his wife disappeared.
Sorry for the grammar mistakes, my English is pretty bad
I'm american, I lived in Argentina in the 70's when I was a kid. Part of my family were Germans, they had a big ranch and I used to go there to learn the trade. One day, several nice old guys showed up and stayed for a night, they all spoke German. That night we were all in front of the fireplace and one of those men came close to me and took me in front of the big fire, he had a cartridge from my uncle's 44-40, he took the lead bullet out and put it in the little iron shovel that was part of the fireplace's tools. He then put the shovel into the fire and melted the lead. When the lead was liquid he took the shovel out and said : "I'm going to put this hot lead into this glass of water, when it cools it will form a shape that will determine who you will be in the future" The lead fell into the glass and cooled, we both agreed that it had formed a motorcycle helmet.... Next day after they left, mon oncle said : "You know who they were ? Ex U-Boat crewmembers..." And by the way, I have already bought and sold more than 55 motorcycles and I still ridding... Cheers !
Amazing story :)
Most people don't realize that the end of a war is not as "cut and dried" as it may seem. Thanks for a fascinating series.
Yes if you surfaced your U-boat and failed to fly a black flag you could still be attacked and sunk.
Steve P these boats amongst others that did not surrender were running supplies to a secret German base located in Antarctica. This is fact and later there was an attempt to flush the Germans out during “Operation High-jump” in 1947 that ended badly for the American convoy.
@@yuppy1967 Complete BS
@@yuppy1967 I rather doubt that they caused any serious trouble if it was true.
Stories like this remind me of that one story of which a Japanese soldier didn't surrender until the 1960's. He only surrendered when his former commander told him the war was over decades past.
If you're reading this Mark, keep doing what you do. Your videos are amazing!
Oh i will just go and watch *Das Boot* for the 15th time after this.
Best sub movie ever made
NOT YET, Kameraden!!
They were transporting gold and VIP,s. He followed his orders and didn’t rat out what actual mission he was on...
Also the captain went back to live in Argentina. Perhaps he had a nice reward waiting for him there.
In Argentina you don’t ask what your German Grandfather did during the war.
Well you don't ask what anybody did in any war.
@Gappie Al Kebabi the rest of the world be like 🙊
Well.......LOL...I suppose they did their duty like anyone else. In fact most allied veterans would sympathise with them....it is just loud left wing activsits that would criticise. I knew a number of British WW2 veterans and I did not know any that hated the German military. The politicians (of all countries) are another matter.
Or what your father did for the facist dictatorship (like throwing people out of planes), esp. if you are the Queen of the Netherlands
Very true.
7:11 Is nobody going to address that Heinz died at 57. Heinz 57 .
Kind of like playing Age of Empires 2 when your losing and put your villagers on a boat and go set up shop somewhere else on the map.
I lived in ARG in the early 90's and had german-argentine girlfriend. Her father told me it is was an open secret all the nazis living in their neighborhood in the decades after WWII. Although born in argentina their home language was german and always seemed more german than artgentine to me.
Hi Mark, I am thoroughly enjoying these videos! Thanks for the frequent uploads!
My father was a sailor on a submarine which was on a secret mission - the boat did not have a published number that I can find, neither can the authorities in Germany. They can't find him on any crew list. They sailed in the Argentina region and stopped at Buenos Aires to make repairs, during which time he went ashore for R&R. The boat then returned towards Germany and was sunk somewhere in the Bay of Biscay with the loss of all but 7 crew, who escaped via the airlock hatch. Last man was left with a revolver. The 7 were rescued by a ship of some kind and landed somewhere along the French coast and taken as a POW to Wales, where he was held till 1947.
After returning to Germany he hated the life there and applied for emigration to Argentina with mum and us 2 kids. Argentinian quota was constantly full so he did the next best thing and migrated to Tasmania, as far away from Schleswig Holstein as it is possible to go without going back :)
I'm very glad to have grown up here in Aus rather than Argentina. I would love to know what his mission had been but he never talked much about his experiences, first getting severley wounded in Russia in 1942 and then being assigned to the submarine corps because he could not march with his demolished leg.
They had a really good series of feasts and then surrendered
Exactly - that's what i would do.....
Mark Fryer makes sense to me...
finally we can close the case
your probably right, they parked up outside Coney Island for a couple of weeks, had some overdue shore leave then headed south when they run short of cash.
An amazing bit of German WWII history. It's bewildering that the secrets remain a mystery to this day and beyond.
Mark, I'm giddy with glee every time you come up with a new video! I love the subject matter too.Thank you!!!
I met two old Germans in SA could most likely shed some light. The older locals only knew they appeared one day from sea at the end of the war and spent the rest of their life working and managing shipyards. They are great to talk to but NEVER let the subject of their origin go to far.
Outstanding work Mark! Thanks as ALWAYS for taking the time to do them and posting them.
Why in the world would you take huge amounts of food - in secret - from a place where there's great food shortages to where there's no particular shortage of food.
So, the captain didn't talk - made up a half-credible cover story. But apparently no one else in the crew did either, and that is kind of amazing discipline.
Thank you Mark for such interesting and informative films. I'm unable to support you financially but really hope you are able to continue your project. Bless you and yours: with respect G
thank you for posting.... your non sensational reporting is greatly appreciated.
I am so glad i found this channel. Your mini-documentaries are awesome!
Thanks
The idea that they were carrying a surreal amount of tinned “food” is laughable. Although gold, in tinned disguise, might be a more logical answer.
i live about 5 miles from the port were the subs docked, theres a small submarine museum located at the port were there are uniforms and other items like documents etc from the crew and subs.
You don't ask an Argentinian his grandfather's SS rank.
why not my grandfather never hide is.
I must say thank you for the work you are doing- It is truly amazing. Mark thank you!
Amazing and fascinating story.
These man were clearly very loyal even after Germany surrendered.
The mission was clearly sold to them as being of great importance.
Thank you Mark for covering this.👍
Excellent video Mark!
Great work Mark. Well done.
Once again an informative and intriguing video, thank you Mr Felton
A pleasure sir
you've done it again komrade excellent work thankyou
As always, Mark, Good job!
In October 1945 I saw 2 German submarines in a southerly direction in the South Atlantic, in front of Prov. De Santa Cruz-Argentina, from the ship ARAUCO of the Interoceanic Cia of Chile. - Unforgettable to my 7 years of age at that time. Irrefutable memory
Well, there could have been submarines, but definitely not German ones.
This is apparently not a place for anecdotal input, just shills and trolls and entitled douchbaggery
There is quite a lot of supporting evidence for this, look for my comment upthread. There is a rail line from San Antonio Oeste to Bariloche and many now declassified reports mention submarines have been seen by locals.
I believe you.
@@rhysstanley7387 :-))
Great work on the video as always! Your passion for history makes these incredible to watch..
Thanks - I just love history!
Very suspicious activities in the Southern Atlantic ocean. Something shady went down in those waters.
history view: something shady goes on in this comment section !
thanks again,for the great douku.keep the good work going!
Like I said in U-530, German sailors were welcomed friends here in Argentina. Several sailors were invited to join the Argentine Navy.
I was under the impression that Argentina allied itself with the Allies in ww2?
@@ilmarvaim317 It did. Argentina supported the axis only during Peron's government.
@@Neukhal A mistake on Argentina's part
you're proud that your country sheltered Nazis and welcomed them with open arms? Weirdo
@@jimjones7821 Like the mistake they made in 1982
Probably just moved some higher rank officials to pre-established South American locations so those officials wouldn't have to deal with Allied interrogations, internment etc. And could be that some u-boats didn't know whether Donitz was going to continue the war or not..
I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of this video!
Would appreciate your continued attention to the waning days. Die Spinne, Rat Lines, Vatican, Spain, Argentina. All are fertile and seem to me to be underreported. How in the heck you can crank these out daily beats me. Very high quality, and so polite at the end! Love your videos!!
You should probably read my book The Last Nazis - it covers all this in some detail: www.amazon.com/Last-Nazis-Hunt-Hitlers-Henchmen/dp/1848842864/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544631725&sr=8-1&keywords=the+last+nazis+felton
You should look up the series 'Hunting Hitler'. It's pretty sensationalist, but contains a LOT of interesting (and factual) information despite that.
Have you ever heard of the story in which, during the battle of the bulge, an area changed hands so many times that the German and American medics stayed behind when their main force had been pushed back to help the wounded?
I've heard that too, I'd love to know more about that.
@@jonnibegood1 So would I. That reminds me of a similar story from D-Day, though...th-cam.com/video/UL5O2fPHUVc/w-d-xo.html
It happened in North Africa as well .... not on purpose but mainly because of the speed of advance
Bull Sh_T, never happened.
Yes, in Hürtgenwald. There is a statue to commemorate the German Wehrmacht Doctor. Unfortuanattly and very sad, the political correct lobby (Green, left wing, liberals etc) in Germany ordered the destruction of the Bunkers some years ago. I visited them before the destruction. If you ever go there you can still see a lot of bunkers etc.
A very good book on this, if you can read German: Trees - Hölle im Hürtgenwald. There is in the area also a small but very interesting museum on this battle in Germany.
This is the German Wehrmachts Officer/Doctor: th-cam.com/video/NXyn7b3UnWM/w-d-xo.html
Mark
I really appreciate your work. Movies are great!! Keep up good work.
Thank you@@
If the german high command built a base in antartica underneath the ice during and completed before the end of the war, their decision to go to Antarctica must have been made quickly. This can explain why he was ordered to fill the uboat sub 977 with such vast amount of food to feed the many bodies who made it successfully to this base.
In a word, "ODESSA". Whole families were transported out of Europe at the end of the war. The U.S. military caught wind of a German installation in Antarctica and sent ships and personnel to check it out (Operation Highjump), under Admiral Byrd, and got their asses kicked by an unknown force in New Schwabia. Byrd and Secretary Forrestal never disclosed what they found, but years later Forrestal mysteriously fell to his death while under medical treatment for a mental breakdown. Rumors have it that he was running down the halls yelling about flying saucers.
Hitler's taxi service. Mission accomplished.
Excellent and Epic, thanks Mark.
When I was going to a primary school in south America a German guy was hired to greet the children, kind of a doorman, he was about 60 and he was a very nice person. Once in awhile he would start screaming and crying in German and of course nobody knew what to do or why he did that but everybody hugged him and he just kept on crying, I would bet he was an ex German soldier traumatized for he saw and have to lived for so many days and nights. Poor guy, it broke my heart to see an adult person be in so much pain and not be able to help him.
I can’t help but wonder if any of the completed, but uncommissioned Type XXI U-Boots could have been “appropriated” prior to their assembly point being overrun and sent off for a very specific final mission at the end of the war.
Wow not even joking I thought this was an actual history channel documentary reuploaded. Keep up the good work my man.
another amazing and informative video .. keep it up Mark.
51..... incredible...good job Mark !
The Nazi's with at least half a brain would have wanted out of Germany a while before the Allies were at Germany's borders. Most of them were corrupt too, so I can imagine it would be possible to buy safe passage out of the European Theatre with the right connections. These U Boats were most likely running a ferry service for some time to Argentina. Another really good video !
Yea thats what I was thinking. Everybody keeps saying "Hittler" but quite a few other high ranking Nazi ended up in Argentina after the war and they would want to buy the silence of Argentinian authorities. That and nobody wants a bunch of freeloading "refugees".
@Get Some! They were definitely not idiots but the point I'm making is that a vast amount would see the war out in a blaze of glory for Hitler, but those who saw past his doctrine would have wanted out and save their skins.
I would think of them carrying people too, but the thing i don't understand is why the highest ranks weren't among them. They surely were the kind of people not wanting to be held responsible for their doings.
@Get Some! lol your funny.
Did Dr. Mengele get to South America this way?
Another excellent video, Mark. Thank you.
As a 10-year old, I read the book "U977." I remember this story. The information you present here is all new to me, and reinforces the many stories I have heard over the years about Germans who escaped to South America. I should think it pretty obvious the U977 had a mission. Keep at your research. I hope you might find more information regarding this mission.
The Captain of the U-boat lived in Argentina, but died at the age of 57. I wonder. Was his death a natural one?
Yay1 After your U-530 video I was waiting for this one! :)
Some deals were made after the war, you aquire alot of wealth after you invade that many countries, the weight of the guns/torpedos were replaced with gold id imagine.
I find parts of this story hard to believe. You mention that U-977 leaves Bergen on May 10 and then heads to Frederikshavn in Denmark where she takes on large amounts of stores.
Denmark was officially liberated (German surrender) on May 5 so I really think it sounds very unlikely that a German submarine would be allowed to enter the port of Frederikshavn, take on supplies and stores and then leave, a week after the Danish liberation. Surely the port of Frederikshavn including any German navy assets would be under Danish/Allied control by then `??
In July of the year 1945 in Argentina a woman who lives near the coast of southern Argentina when leaving her house to lay out clothes a submarine, for 15 minutes about 1500 meters away and about 100 meters from the beach, many they say that Germans were in that sector every year many Divers and group of people try to find the remains of that submarine or something like that
spotted a submarine *
The son of that lady who no longer exists, every year tries to find remains of that submarine
In 1977 I was a young British backpacker having a tea in Ascuncion, Paraguay’s swankiest hotel.(well you gotta live a little). I was amazed to realise that so many older guys, in white linen suits were all speaking German. The atmosphere was surreal, and I did not feel at all comfortable and left shortly. Especially as earlier one of these guys had offered me $1000 for my passport. An eerie experience.
ass port more like
Amazing story and another excellent video ! I can just imagine what happened in Argentina.
They went to Neuschwabenland ;)
This sounds more likely with 38 days unaccounted for.
Schon mal gefragt warum die Graf Spee im Vorfeld des Krieges genau in diesen Gewässern operiert hat? Es waren argentinische (& Chilenische) Frachter die von Deutschland aus gesponsert wurden, welche die großen Maschinenteile ab 1939 bis nach Argentinien und von dort mit Versorgungs U-Booten (Milchkühe) durch die Unterwasserpassagen in die Antarktis transportierten. Es gab mehr Milchkühe als offiziell angegeben, die ersten Transport U-Boote wurden im 1. Weltkrieg gebaut. Das Höhlensystem in der Arktis wurden den deutschen Geheimgesellschaften schon vor dem ersten Weltkrieg gezeigt und man kooperierte schon damals mit seinen zukünftigen "Gastgebern/Alienoverlords".
Daher auch der Falklandkrieg, die Engländer hatten jahrzehntelang nicht mitbekommen dass unterirdische Einrichtungen direkt vor ihrer Nase waren. Referenz hierzu: South Sandwich Islands / Insel Southern Thule
Sehr kalt mein Herr!
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@@Republic3D Exactly, and Adolf Hitler shaved his beard and opened with Eva a boutique in Buenos Aires. And if they have not died, they still live today.... really
While very mysterious, I cant help but appreciate they extra layers you added.
We need a vid on all the “suspect” missing u-boats mark
My grandfather who work in the meat works at the "Swift Frigorifico" in Berisso City, told my father He once have to load a UBoat at the factory docks.
A great video,.. very detailed with amazing footage as well !!
The wreck of u235 has been found at 58° 09' N, 10° 48' O
Well, hugely intriguing - lots of fun to speculate.
Thank you so much!
They sent a few subs to Argentina, fully loaded with gold and VIP refugees, so the "provisions" sub was necesary during the long trip.
Your video topics are fascinating. Please continue your great work. Thanks.
Well, let's put it simple, the lots of nazis in Argentina weren't precisely shipped there via Fed-Ex.
no way they had food in those cans. Most likely gold and other valuables disguised as food.
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Thanks, I find these types of vids very interesting!
Correction: This channel is awesome, it's like Christmas everyday!
"Why can't every day be Christmas? Why can't every day be gay?"
"Why can't every day be merry Christmas, each and every day?"
they were clearly carring Party officals and VIP's from germany,south America was welcoming to Fascist from Italy and Germany,others ran to Franco's Spain
Thank you. Well presented.
Thanks
Excellent videos, Thanks!
Very interesting video. Thanks for posting it.
I would think that with each U-boat carrying 30+/- crew on board, that someone would have been able to answer the mystery if not then than in their dying days.
Loyale to the end i guess.
Totally agree, strange how this is now considered a mystery as dead men can tell no tales.
@@littlejimmy8744 they will meet no traitors in Walhalla, so they stay on course
Great work again.
We saw U-977 on a photo twice in this photo, the first time at around 2:30. In the background is a white boat, it looks like a submarine but is it? It has a strange "indentation" along its starboard side.
Thats a type IX u-boat with a "Schnelltauchback", a late war modification to increase diving speed by deleting the external torpedo storage containers.
See: ic.pics.livejournal.com/olt_z_s/16238543/34687/34687_640.jpg
The one in the background with the cut-out in the fore of the hull is a Type IXC/40. They were slightly heavier than your usual Type IXC, however had a bit longer range and quicker dive speed, though most of them didn't feature a deck gun.
The white-ish boat is the U-530, you can see it written in black on the bow in a hand writting.
The "indentation" is a modification applied to many Type IX U-boats, cutting the sides of the upper deck and reducing its width in a attempt to reduce the drag while diving, making the time it take for this massive 76m boat shorter.
I think it's U-530 that's been repainted and tarted up.
@@MarkFeltonProductions That's probably it, considering the U-530 was a Type IXC/40
Hitler didn't die in no bunker in Berlin and a lot of high ranking VIP's made it out of Germany ending up in South America, the U-Boats were how they were getting there. I bet one day when Argentina finally gets it's act together and joins the first world you'll find a lot of scuttled U-Boats just off the coast down there. The aft torpedo space was empty for passenger transport, to bad all involved are dead and gone now, their stories would have made for some fascinating movies and books.
would be interesting to know where they got enough fuel to make that entire trip
Hello, I am from Argentina, also lived in Mar del Plata many yeards, when I was at high school at mar del plata our history teacher was a guy that loves to talk and talk, he also told us many fantastic stories, at that time we thought that he was a bit cracy because one of the stories was that submarines from Germany arrived at the cost near Mar del Plata and unloaded people and material. Now he is dead but the fact is that all south america is plagued with ex Nazis, and yes specially argentina with Peron offered a safe heaven in esxchange fro bribes, but Peron also simpatized a lot with Mussolini. Years later many of them where caught but also some of them cooperated with CIA in the fight against communist, when the URSS turned out ot be a much bigger problem graving one latin country after another with revolutions, in particular "the Lion's butcher" Barby was at Bolivia and was a close ally of US and UK....
before you say that i am crzy too:
n 1947, Barbie was recruited as an agent for the 66th Detachment of the U.S. Army Counterintelligence Corps (CIC).[13] The U.S. used Barbie and other Nazi Party members to further anti-communist efforts in Europe. Specifically, they were interested in British interrogation techniques which Barbie had experienced firsthand, and the identities of SS officers the British were using for their own ends. Later, the CIC housed him in a hotel in Memmingen, and he reported on French intelligence activities in the French zone of occupied Germany because they suspected that the French had been infiltrated by the KGB and GRU.[14]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Barbie
The movement of U977 on the coast of Norway is well known, the men were picked up on the 10th. The same day the crew of U320 came ashore quite near.
Thanks for another great video. There seems to be a lot of unanswered /unanswerable questions of what happen between Germany and Argentina.
You are not wrong. In my book The Last Nazis I dealt with the rat lines and Vatican involvement in getting Nazis to South American. Peron's Argentina took thousands and thousands, and interestingly was the only South American nation to develop its own indigenous jet aircraft programme (I think I can guess where the technical know-how came from!).
This Group that was seen in Argentina was part of the Durnitz Antartica mission ; 8 or 10 Uboats only 2 were recoverd by the Allies ; what happened to the others ?
Interesting video as always!
En Octubre de 1945 vi 2 submarinos alemanes en dirección sur en Atlántico Sur, frente a Prov. de Santa Cruz-Argentina, desd el buque ARAUCO de la Cia Interoceánica de Chile.- Inolvidable a mis 7 años de edad en ese entonces. Irrefutable recuerdo!
Dropping off supplies to their Antarctica base.
@aerodog2 Another knob fantasy believer.
How do you find the time for all this?!
Isaiah Mendiola I believe it his his part time occupation.
Im from Canada and was wondering if you could do a vid on the three u boats that surrendered to canada its a really interesting story.
Love your work.
Maybe this links in to “europa: the last battle”?
Love your video’s Mark!
Great work Sir
Intriguing ! you can say that again. Your Videos are compelling.
Barry.Devon.
Karl Donitz is reported to have said the following quote in 1943
"the German submarine fleet is proud of having built for the Führer, in another part of the world, a Shangri-La on land, an impregnable fortress"
*The* *Plot* *Thickens*
in antactica
yeeeah... aaany citation at all? If la-la land was built it probably was in the south american jungle or undercover in cities
@@brucenassar9077 That is correct.
@@mjfan653 www.rt.com/news/vostok-lake-drill-process-703/ This article goes into more detail about it.
Yeah, America.
Did they weigh the crew before and after the mission?
An amazing story Mark. Thank you.
Rich.
He was dropping off hier Hitler
Shane VanOrder Herr*
This is incorrect. His DNA from captured bodies captured outside his bunker bt Soviet troops identified him as Adolf. He was most assuredly, dead. I believe this was done in 2009 but I could be mistaken on the time-frame.
Shane/// They were dropping off somebody or a Group of Somebody's.Argentina was A HAVEN FOR NAZI'S AFTER WWII.
@@prof2yousmithe444 uhm no they proved it was a little girls DNA wtf are you talking about
@@prof2yousmithe444 If this is true, Stalin himself wouldn't have said he believed Hitler to be alive after the war, the supposed body of Hitler's the Russians have wouldn't have been female, and the FBI wouldn't have been looking into Hitler being alive post war.
I don't know what happened, and I don't claim to, but the idea that the major world powers were looking for Hitler after the war is more than just coincidence.
Hint: The food supplies were all vegetable dishes.