GATHERING STORM: The Origin of Modern Warhammer 40k | Warhammer 40,000 Lore

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  • The Gathering Storm campaign for Warhammer 40,000 developed the space-fantasy setting from an static sandbox to an evolving storyline, introducing new characters are setting up many of the things modern Warhammer takes for granted. So, in this video, I go through the entire story - what actually happened in Gathering Storm?
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  • @BentJacket
    @BentJacket ปีที่แล้ว +219

    For those wondering what happened to the Ynarri story; Seeing the eldar having 4 of the 5 crone swords slaanesh said "My ball and im taking it home" and just yoinked the 5th one. Unable to get the sword, the story is over and never mentioned again. gg. Great vid as usual Ian.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      My assumption is that the Gathering Storm storyline was meant to pave the way for an "End Times" style storyline, such as the one that, well, ended Warhammer Fantasy. In essence, the Ynarri potentially getting the five swords and killing Slaanesh would have been part of a big event that ended 40K, paving the way for a setting reboot like that of Age of Sigmar.
      But then GW saw how poorly received End Times was, and got cold feet. They didn't necessarily want to torpedo their cash-cow game. So they quietly scrapped plans for a full reboot, and went with the Indomitus Crusade instead. A definite shake-up of the 40K formula, but not the rebuild from square one that Age of Sigmar was.

    • @Darktusken
      @Darktusken ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Bluecho4 yep the ynnari was meant to be a way to merge the eldar factions but that plan was abandonned and now the ynari are aimless and without purpose and just sit there as a reminder of that failed idea .

    • @BentJacket
      @BentJacket ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Bluecho4 It seems likely you are right. I dont think they need to scrap it however, its pretty open ended. GW have an issue with slaanesh anyway, with the sexual element of it. They did away with the prince of pleasures in AoS already, likely for similar reasons. You can have all the violence you want in the grimdark future but no sex please, we are British. I personally liked that there was some story line going on with a faction other then imperum, I hope something comes of this, if not getting the 5th sword some sort of "Well we got 4, thats pretty good, lets see what we can do with that" or just special Death Cult units for the faction.

    • @recce8619
      @recce8619 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I'd heard the problem was the Ynarri/Eldar books weren't selling, so they stopped progressing the story

    • @jerrywheyland7324
      @jerrywheyland7324 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@recce8619 that would be too bad. To me it sounded like the most interesting story by far.
      The whole setup sounds great honestly, involvement of many major factions, all playing pivotal roles in progressing the story and not being complete pushovers.

  • @emeraldcelestial1058
    @emeraldcelestial1058 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Dude i love your 40k content so much, its so calm and fun and not 'BIG NEWS IN THE 40K UNIVERSE DAY 204567 EPIC TH-cam VIDEO BUT SAME AT THE VIDEO THAT WAS POSTED YESTERDAY'
    seriously, you are so needed in this community for being chill as fuck

  • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
    @Kristian.B.Kristiansen ปีที่แล้ว +243

    I can think of few better TH-camrs than you to cover this.

    • @lockett7106
      @lockett7106 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Had to read this a couple times to realise it was a compliment.

    • @robertoleary5470
      @robertoleary5470 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@lockett7106 me too 😂

    • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
      @Kristian.B.Kristiansen ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@lockett7106 Ian is fair, balanced, very well read and knowledgeable about the setting.
      This was a truly excellent primer on a complicated but crucial part of 40k lore.

    • @lockett7106
      @lockett7106 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Kristian.B.Kristiansen no doubt. I just misread your comment.

    • @vaudevillian7
      @vaudevillian7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Definitely, probably my favourite channel for fluff (or ‘lore’ as it seems to have become now) and GW history, appreciate that he knows what he’s on about and talks like a human talking to other humans and doesn’t try to be edgy or hyper

  • @stewartriley4690
    @stewartriley4690 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Being something who only got into 40K in the last year this was really helpful for understanding some of the history of the current setting

  • @henrikwannheden7114
    @henrikwannheden7114 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My mind is blown. I've been following this development for years, but concentrated like this.. insane. Ian, You are a very good narrator.

  • @solarmacharius
    @solarmacharius ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Never understood why GW didn't release this as a novel series as opposed to game books which you can't even buy anymore.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yup, each of these events could have made a novel on its own.
      Heck, Fall of Cadia could have been a trilogy.

    • @Whistlpig
      @Whistlpig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This bit about Cawl and the pylons, the eldar etc.. I swear it's in Cawls book, The Great Work.

  • @GentleBen_86
    @GentleBen_86 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this. I fell out of the hobby during 4th edition and came back in the middle of 8th so this really helps fill in a lot of holes in the lore for me.

  • @Pizzifrizzo
    @Pizzifrizzo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love that you pointed out that 40k, though now having a "main storyline", is still able to also be a "setting". The recent Charadon and Octarius campaigns are proof of this and the former in particular is one of the better examples of "modern 40k" IMO.

    • @qwer9676
      @qwer9676 ปีที่แล้ว

      while true there’s now big chunks removed from the sandbox and now turned into a fixed narrative

  • @DziaduzLasu
    @DziaduzLasu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG that ZX SPECTRUM reference :D 😍

  • @MaxOVADrive
    @MaxOVADrive ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ian, thanks for putting this together. Now I don't have to hunt down and over-pay for the Gathering Storm books! Also, how bonkers is 40K? I mean, it's pretty bonkers. I love it.

  • @sagichnicht6290
    @sagichnicht6290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    imagine a Series about this.

  • @tremolo_painter
    @tremolo_painter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Um, sir, will all of this be in the test?" :) I am going to have to watch this more than once to follow it!

  • @seandollard4441
    @seandollard4441 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! It did indeed fill in so knowledge gaps for I felt a bit lost lore wise when I got back into 40K 2 years ago.

  • @jakewu8268
    @jakewu8268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A most informative video Arbitor Ian. Great vid. 👍

  • @AcornPlays
    @AcornPlays ปีที่แล้ว

    I only got into the hobby in 2020, and the vibe I've got is that basically the lore didn't move essentially from like 2nd edition until this Gathering Storm storyline. Since I've been in the hobby they've been adding interesting new little bits and pieces and it's really engaging to follow. I wanna see a few more drastic things like they really should have killed off Calgar in Nihilus

  • @paolomandala02
    @paolomandala02 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really wish the ynnari hadn't just disappeared after this. The glimpses of their aesthetic we get from yvraine and ynead's projection definitely appeals to me more than either of the existing Eldar factions, and their story could've lead to the Eldar developing into a third proper superfaction, along with the Imperium and Chaos, which, imo, would be much more interesting than what we've got now.

  • @disposable157
    @disposable157 ปีที่แล้ว

    I *just* started playing an Ynari army so this provided some much-needed context :D

  • @Oleus
    @Oleus ปีที่แล้ว

    A simple and clear summary, as usual. Thanks, Ian. 😄

  • @miameramusic
    @miameramusic ปีที่แล้ว

    This was like 40k’s all-star game, pretty much every main character in their universe

  • @the_malefactor
    @the_malefactor ปีที่แล้ว

    There are elements that I find decent in all of this, but good lord the way that the universe turns on the melodrama of a few comic book superheroes just doesn't permit the setting itself to have the gravity that it has such potential to exert. Rick Priestley drew heavily on archaeology in writing up 40k in the eighties and the setting desperately needs a similarly academically-grounded perspective once again to help right the ship.

  • @grayson6451
    @grayson6451 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing work!

  • @nakenmil
    @nakenmil ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm still cagey about GW's seeming tendency to "de-dystopize" the Imperium. It's not some complete 180 or anything, but more a subtle shift in art direction and narrative elements that seem de-emphasize the Imperium's internal dysfunction, totalitarianism and monstrous, unimaginable scale. It's been going on a while, and again, it's not complete or anything, it's just big enough to be noticeable. I don't know, maybe I'm just frozen in the 3-7th-ish edition style of the setting where the Imperium was monumentally rotten from within and obviously the cause of most of its own problems, and that was sort of the "joke".
    Maybe this shift started with the runaway success of the HH novels, which sohwed GW the appeal of both a central, ongoing narrative, and the appeal of active, motivated main characters, which they've now ported into 40k kinda. This isn't to say I think GW's writing USED to be better, it was always pretty hit or miss. But I think I just liked the overall vibe and aesthetic more. I don't know, it's hard to pin down. And I don't want to feed the whole "grognard outrage" machine, which is navel-gazing and stupid.

  • @JR-dd4ec
    @JR-dd4ec ปีที่แล้ว

    Another freaking great video by you Ian!!!!!

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the summary. I don't blame you for the fact that this is the reason I kind of daren't ask for any more new Eldar lore.

  • @mistformsquirrel
    @mistformsquirrel ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a super useful video for me. I've come back to 40k in just the last couple months after not doing anything with it since 5th edition and to say there's been a lot of gaps in my knowledge would be an understatement.
    Honestly, I quite like a lot of the story development. I'm not gonna say it's perfect (I groaned pretty hard when I heard about the Primaris marines, and even harder when I saw some of the kits... though others are quite good if I'm honest) - but I do actually like the overall direction.
    Honestly I'd love to see the Imperium properly split in half on a more long term basis, such that the culture in one half diverges from the other - think Constantinople and Rome.

  • @steffansaxton-williams5041
    @steffansaxton-williams5041 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of this!

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastically told, thank you

  • @andrewpackham8236
    @andrewpackham8236 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think this whole saga was a really well executed way of kick-starting the lore into the progressive timeline we have now. Almost every faction was involved, in a way that translates well to tabletop games and campaigns. Aside from Primaris Marines, pretty much everything else from these books has been happily accepted by the fandom

  • @riderpsychopate
    @riderpsychopate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the eldar part....i just don't understand sh** 😂😂😂 veteran player here by the way, played eldar in v3 and helped during the eye of terror campaign

  • @bengeorge9063
    @bengeorge9063 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think any other Primarchs will return ?

  • @magicconchshell
    @magicconchshell ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the 9th edition core book give you all this information, or would i have to find these older books?

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  ปีที่แล้ว

      It gives you the big picture (rift, Guilliman, Primaris marines) but not the fine details of how it happened.

  • @duncanray1898
    @duncanray1898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got watch someone else

  • @JoshuaKevinPerry
    @JoshuaKevinPerry ปีที่แล้ว

    That was long and confusing.

  • @klingonmage
    @klingonmage ปีที่แล้ว +96

    This was so useful for someone who only got into 40k In 9th edition. Please do a physic awakening summary like this!

    • @CrimsonTemplar2
      @CrimsonTemplar2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely!

    • @rodmaia2099
      @rodmaia2099 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @qwer9676
      @qwer9676 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      tbh I would ignore this new lore, goes against what 40k was

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard ปีที่แล้ว +80

    As a veteran non-player (played Warhammer Fantasy Battle from when the first box came out til a few years before Age of Sigmar happened, but the lore of 40k was always compelling!) this does indeed fill in a *LOT* of holes in my knowledge of how the storyline started moving forwards.
    So, big thanks for making this :)

  • @fionn2220
    @fionn2220 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    So much of the art in this campaign was just incredible. Games Workshops artists definitely do not get enough credit because I swear a good 60% of the impact and uniqueness of the setting comes from their work.

    • @changer_of_ways_999
      @changer_of_ways_999 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It really is taken for granted a lot. The artwork is so good now, you just "get used to it."

    • @Blacknight8850
      @Blacknight8850 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Unfortunately they don't get _any_ credit anymore - they stopped listing artist and writer credits from books years ago.

    • @yousuck785why
      @yousuck785why ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Blacknight8850 wait what the fuck?

    • @kyokyodisaster4842
      @kyokyodisaster4842 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@yousuck785why
      Harassment of a certain Ultramarine writer resulted in GW changing their modius operandi with artists and writers. In short, its to 'protect them from harassment'.

    • @djangofett4879
      @djangofett4879 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyokyodisaster4842 can you elaborate? i haven't heard about this

  • @WolfT33
    @WolfT33 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love how all the reasons for the factions getting involved is perfectly in line with their character with Chaos being the one causing the conflic resulting in the Imperium reacting while the Eldar are gathered through faith and prophesies and gratee plans and finally the Necrons (Trazyn) just doing it because they (he) thought it'd be fun, all culminating in Chaos doing the space equivalent of flipping the table

  • @hannahgeraghty4201
    @hannahgeraghty4201 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The sisters of silence and Adeptus Custodes joined these crusading armies, only occasionally wiping out all the primaris marines that they were travelling with.

  • @Demigodish4o3
    @Demigodish4o3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Incredible retelling of events!
    Makes me excited for the Arcs of Omen events.

  • @talscorner3696
    @talscorner3696 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember enjoying Trazhyn's scenes in those books so much: man's chilling in his own tropical retirée when everything in the galaxy is going to fucking shit and when the bell starts tolling so hard it breaks his stuff he's like "OI?! Can't have that!" and casually drops it *in the Webway* xD

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it's one of my favourite parts. Even in this, there's space for silliness.

    • @talscorner3696
      @talscorner3696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArbitorIan I think it's one of the reasons I love 40k so much, when the authors manage to slide humour in and it just makes sense with the rest of the context.

  • @LimerickJim
    @LimerickJim ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Maybe I'm showing my Ahriman fan boyness but I feel that Yiv reversing the Rubric on a squad of Rubricae in the Webway is an important event of this confluence.

  • @lamicrobio...engros5427
    @lamicrobio...engros5427 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I remember how exciting it was, how much new stuff coming in and the waiting for the final story line of this arc

  • @changer_of_ways_999
    @changer_of_ways_999 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My favorite event around the beginning of this was the Siege of Fenris. It was really cool to have a massive showdown of Thousand Sons against Space Wolves.

  • @WarriorTier
    @WarriorTier ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really loved this video, might be my favorite. Really well done as always!

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Your presentation style is perfect for this story. Odyssey is almost an understatement.

  • @KainMcnab
    @KainMcnab ปีที่แล้ว +3

    and were only saved and where only saved and were only saved, GW has a repetition problem.

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So does my scriptwriting!

  • @liamross1639
    @liamross1639 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey mate, I just got to say that this sort of video was exactly what I was hoping for. You summarised the lore in such a good way and I would love for you to continue this series covering more events and providing a timeline. Great job, and keep it up!

  • @Inquisdrknss
    @Inquisdrknss ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you, this is the Lore I missed between leaving the game after the Fall of Cadia and coming back in 2020.

  • @Theembodimentchannel
    @Theembodimentchannel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This story reads like a ten year olds fan fiction. Utter trash. Gw really rushed it

  • @theforgottenbard8978
    @theforgottenbard8978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't help but think when guilliman revived it was akin to seeing a wwe hall of famer showing up to beat the current heel.

  • @BobTheism
    @BobTheism ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really, really don't like that there is an overarching storyline now. It doesn't feel condusive to a tabletop wargame the same way the sandbox is. I hate the idea of there being anything remotely resembling a "main character" in 40k, the main characters should be whatever models a player puts on the table. Novels and other stories should serve to enrichen and widen the setting to enable players to better get into their games. That's my perspective as a tabletop player.
    I understand that a lot of 40k fans don't actually play the game and I imagine that the overarching soryline might be exciting for them but I wouldn't care much even if it was the single greatest narrative written by man because it doesn't enrich my games.
    Oh well, I'll stick to Horus Heresy, at least we know how that ends so there won't be any changes which is good.

  • @gregorde
    @gregorde ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pity they just dropped the Ynnead stuff.

  • @BecauseOfDragons
    @BecauseOfDragons ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So incredibly well told. Was properly fascianting and filled in a bunch of gaps for me about what happened before Guilliman was brought back. Can't wait to get more of these giving an overview of the lore leading up to where we are now AND of course the continuation of the Arks Of Omen series. Great stuff as always!

  • @Olivernicholasbradbury
    @Olivernicholasbradbury ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s a hell of a lot of backstory to justify having slightly bigger space marines 😂

  • @alastaircollins1145
    @alastaircollins1145 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Summary, thanks :)
    I remember when the "Eye of Terror" campaign started being announced and, as the only person in my immediate circle who had cared about Battlefleet Gothic, let alone read the story in the rulebook, I was alone in recognising the Blackstone Fortresses as a sign that an interwoven narrative was being put together. It was exciting.

  • @mashzapotato
    @mashzapotato ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My memory of the news of these books coming out was a collective sigh of relief in the fandom (at least my part of it). Games workshop's insistence that they would not move past the last year of the 41st millennium had become a weight around the neck of setting and it was starting to stagnate. And while I haven't been super thrilled about any of the new stuff (where my blue-skinned bois at GW?!) I'm glad they're willing to let the setting evolve again.

  • @Surrogate_Gaia
    @Surrogate_Gaia ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A timeline? Yes please. It would be great to have a concise idea of when events take place with the Dark Imperium, even if the Great Rift itself kind of messes with that.

  • @smoessmee
    @smoessmee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like these, I've been away from 40K for quite some time, so it's nice to have concise summaries like this, that also give enough detail to be interesting :)

  • @TattooedTabletop
    @TattooedTabletop ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is probably one of the best lore videos I've seen on this topic. I've been in 40k for a few years but seldom can I find myself keeping up with everything. This video with all the incredible artwork helped so much! I can wait to see more videos like this as the Arks of Omen unfolds! Lore is what really keeps bringing me into the hobby and you are a masterclass ❤️

  • @strawberrypuddin8919
    @strawberrypuddin8919 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something about Gilliman fighting Magnus the Red on the moon is so baller. I haven't read the books yet though, do they exchange fun dialogue? I hope they do

  • @syafri88
    @syafri88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not gonna lie, the scene where Calgar shouted for them to stop, and when Guilliman step out from the machine was a powerful scene that makes your hair stands.

  • @DAMIENDICE
    @DAMIENDICE ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic summary!
    I hope GW picks up the Ynnari storyline some day

  • @hallstuart6604
    @hallstuart6604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for doing this!!
    Great video Ian!

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gathering Storm was good but man it should've been spread out more to allow certain elements to breathe more

  • @socalastarte6727
    @socalastarte6727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been a fan of 40K since the late 80’s early 90’s and have read about 50 or so 40K novels. I’ve attempted to read the Gathering Storm when it came out, but found it abysmal writing at best. It’s simply a mess. Someone obviously set a deadline that others scrambled to meet. However, the events that occur during that campaign are vitally important for someone that wants to understand certain things about the current 40K setting. For anyone who is interested in knowing what happens I recommend the audio narration by ABorder Prince on TH-cam. He lets the audience know ahead of time that the content is pretty bad, but his voice acting helps the story along some.

  • @Erzkreutz
    @Erzkreutz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah i remember the finale: The primarch rises
    i was like O_O
    as somebody who started this mid 90s it felt like "jesus lives again"
    a living loyalist primarch in 40k - not possible. but there he was.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว

      He also was like 0_0 , then proceeded to beat the crap out of Chaos Terminators and Khorne Bersekers.

  • @turnipslop3822
    @turnipslop3822 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate this video, but as someone who does at least know all of the key characters and is a fan of 40k... this was difficult to follow. I don't feel like this quite hits the usual tier of approachability for newbies you usually aim for.
    Even if someone had watched all your previous faction specific videos, I think they would struggle to understand everything that you said here. I think that's just the struggle between being thorough and being accessible. Good effort though as always.

  • @Alexrex77
    @Alexrex77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't realize how Eldar-heavy this new lore was. thanks for putting this video together.

  • @nicholasleon7819
    @nicholasleon7819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just love to imagine the disbelief and exuberance Calgar must have felt when his father stood before him restored

  • @KMn048
    @KMn048 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate this! Along with your Horus Heresy evolution video, I’ve only been the hobby since covid so I’ve always had a hard time telling what fluff was there before GS because my view of the lore is completely based on what we have in 9th.
    Keep up (Cawl’s) great work!

  • @joesturn7740
    @joesturn7740 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can always follow 40k lore until it gets to Eldar fluff and then I just can't make heads or tails of any of it. Love these books but the second one that focuses on Aeldari is impenetrable to me.

    • @andrewcook3983
      @andrewcook3983 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it the Elf names? That's the case for me. I probably couldn't understand Tolkien if I read it either.

    • @joesturn7740
      @joesturn7740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewcook3983 that's a lot of it.

    • @joesturn7740
      @joesturn7740 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewcook3983 But you know the more I think about it, it's odd because I can tell you the difference between Glorfindel, Celebrimbor, Celeborn, and many of Tolkien's elves because even though they only appear briefly they have a personality and a role to play in the wider world. In the Aeldari, they're all pretty faceless and vague. They're not very relatable and therefore I feel like they fall right out of my brain the minute my brain is done reading any sentence about them.

  • @lastsurvivingemothefox9797
    @lastsurvivingemothefox9797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought the whole shebang on ebay- got a great deal on all the models n books and art- big big event :) glad to have it on my shelf- and you’ve done a good job covering it

  • @Eruidraith
    @Eruidraith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was such a fun time to be playing! It was so cool to feel like your battles could now kinda be plugged into a specific campaign in the larger clusterfuck. I started running Cadians for the first time, instead of using my guardsmen as counts-as Tallarns, imagining they were hard pressed survivors.

  • @razmere924
    @razmere924 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish GW would make these campagn books into actual novels with drama and dialogue. Maybe get Dan Abnett, A.D. Bowden or Rachel Harrison to write.

  • @felis1977
    @felis1977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for that. I like the lore of 40k but this new development was too much for me to slog through. I would love to listen you recapping any subsequent campaigns in 41k ;)

  • @phildman132
    @phildman132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone with a large 10-15 year gap in my warhammer playing knowledge, this was a great catch up as to what on earth happened to the setting while I was away! Another great lore video as always

  • @davidcook73
    @davidcook73 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these deep dives, Ian, keep them coming!

  • @davidchristie1200
    @davidchristie1200 ปีที่แล้ว

    im just sad the Mandrake plotline from book 2 was completely dropped :( the last skull was claimed and a portal to the mandrake realm was opened.... soo much potentiall. Great video need to reread the books at some point

  • @DARmanbuttermilk1136
    @DARmanbuttermilk1136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit this was so cool to hear. The build up to the revival of Guilliman made me so hype. Courage and Honor! Made me hype to be an Ultramarine.

  • @volkarve
    @volkarve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been hoping you'd do this recap. Great video

  • @ArkadiBolschek
    @ArkadiBolschek ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for these videos! 🙏 I've been quite disconnected from developments in the lore of WH40K for the last few years, and this is really helping me catch up with the storyline going into 10th edition

  • @wescha
    @wescha ปีที่แล้ว

    Though while expertedly narrated especially by you, those summaries turn the shlock to 11,especially in German.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought that Guilliman got The Emperor's Sword from The Emperor when he finally made it to Terra and they had their little pow-wow. Am I totally wrong?

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently he had it before then!

    • @michaelhowell2326
      @michaelhowell2326 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArbitorIan yeah, youre totally correct. Its strange thiugh that so much artwork of The Emperor shows it sitting on his lap. So it begs the queation, where did Cawl get it? I think I pick up something new every time I watch one of your lore videos. That and your interaction with your community are just two of the reasons I really dig your channel.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArbitorIan He picked up some time during the Great Scouring ? Otherwise, there is no other explanation, he used to be the Imperial Regent.

  • @rodmaia2099
    @rodmaia2099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was perfect! …and a timeline? Yes please! I read a bunch of Horus Heresy books but when it comes to 40k millennium I’m completely clueless as to how we got here. Please, more of these!
    It would be great to do a character driven overview too… Shadowsun pls 😬

    • @djangofett4879
      @djangofett4879 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      part of that has to do with the 40K narrative is more scattered. it has been treated more as a setting in which various stories can play out. whereas 30k has a more clear-cut overarching narrative.
      they are starting to piece it together more with the 40K stuff but it's still very scattered.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou ปีที่แล้ว +1

      30k is kinda easy to figure it out. While a lot of stuff did happen, it was in a relatively short timeframe.

  • @CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn
    @CharlesRichelieu-hv7sn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, warhammer has trash lore

  • @jsauer30
    @jsauer30 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! I'd love to see a good summary of psychic awakening. I missed out on a few of the middle books.

  • @ithemba
    @ithemba ปีที่แล้ว

    I began playing in 3rd and played through 4th edition before stopping for many years. I remember checking in after I heard about Gathering Storm, reading the campaign book, since I knew the whole Cadia scenario well from the Eye of Terror Campaign, and being complete put off by its style. I never started playing again, basically turning my back on 40k again for years and years.
    What I loved about the warhammer books was the suggestive open world feeling of all the bits of lore: seldom was any bit of lore established as definitive fact, a lot was purposefully obscured, ie because the lore text was a fictive piece of imperial archive material and had been censored by the Inquisition or some such. Most stuff was rumored or at least overshadowed by doubt or different theories, or straight up superstition. Texts that conciously tried to NOT be canonical. The feeling of the slow decay of knowledge and information over the 10.000 years since the heresy into a world of controlled propaganda, blisfull ignorance and turning into religious dogma what once was straight up history or fact: I remember how the first codex Malleus made VERY clear that the popolace (and rank and file of the Imperial Army) were left ignorant about the very existence of the threat Chaos, Demons and even the continued existance of traitor legions. Planets population was systematically purged after they encountered (and beat back) Chaos Invasions so as to contain the information about the very existance of that threat - just as with the populace of Armageddon after the first war, when they beat back Angorns World Eaters.
    I remember how my friends and I spent the summer of the eye of terror campaign heatedly discussing all the lore implications and or hints and bait in the campaign book about characters and their motivation to take part in the battle for Cadia.
    I LOVED that. It always felt like an invitation to tell your own stories in the dark future of the 41st millenium. It was a exclamation mark: Insert your own story here!
    I was sooooo taken aback by the new style and the demystification of once completely mythical figures like Primarchs by having them as straight up protagonists of the story. The 42nd Millenium and its lore basically has barely anything left of what Wh40k was for me.

  • @OljeiKhan
    @OljeiKhan ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Primaris were just reinforcements with better gear instead of being a different breed of marines who were better in EVERY single way + better equipment + almost infinite numbers.
    They could also be what they are, better in everyway to a "regular" space marine, but extremely limited in number say like a honour guard etc.
    We desperately need homebrew firstborn chapters. I have 2 kind of fleshed out and starting out on 2 more. They never recieved the Primaris reinforcements, but eventually a fleet will reach and forcefully reinforce them. I am open to any and all suggestions regarding how the Celestial Seraphs and the Emperor's Tears can deny the inevitable Primaris reinforcements.
    Or at least keep them extremely limited in number. I could go with the "Black Templar's method" of dealing with it but my guys would see their chapters erased from history before they would lay hands on a Custodian.
    (Both chapters are assigned fiefdoms on the galactic outskirts and they enjoy a fair degree of autonomy + they have a contact with "retired" Custodians who protect them from Imperial officials.)

  • @Powoga
    @Powoga ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:00 Seems like a really bad place and time to make a phone call.

    • @Yurt_enthusiast7
      @Yurt_enthusiast7 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's been in a phone que for 3 hours and won't let a couple of Iron warriors lose his spot!

  • @adrianpfifferling7347
    @adrianpfifferling7347 ปีที่แล้ว

    If i´d be honest, after this campaign i thought 40k would would die the same shameful and tragic death just like Warhammer Fantasy after the End Times and degenerate to such a ridicolous abomination of a wargame like this Age of Sigmar thing...Sadly i was kind of right 😞

  • @alphaprawns
    @alphaprawns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video, appreciate the summary. Gathering Storm was around the time I was becoming extremely jaded about GW's general strategy of gouging money with dozens of supplements and army books so I missed a lot of the lore surrounding it, but it's very compelling seeing the overarching storyline progress.

  • @innocentbystander309
    @innocentbystander309 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great as always but I've got a structural critique. My eyes started to glaze over at about the midboard because I couldn't really track the overall story. The video turned into a series of "and then... and then... and then..." for a while without real narrative cohesion. I think if you preface material like this that covers so much with a sort of "We start here and will get there" sort of statement, or just refer back to a timeline, it'd help people follow along better.

  • @musicfighter282
    @musicfighter282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: you refer to Cypher as Lord of the Fallen, since iut of universe we know that’s who he is, but how much does Guilliman and any of the other characters in this story actually know about the whole Dark Angels thing. He seems to be aware at some level at least, which I’m sure would piss off some guys in the Inner Circle.

  • @princeofcupspoc9073
    @princeofcupspoc9073 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warhammer was great when it was a set of rules to use whatever scifi minis you had in tabletop battles. This is something different. This is game world based on marketing and sales, with the goal of eeking every penny they can from the players. Well now you need a whole new army. You see the rules for the new minis make then so much better that you should just throw away your old ones. It's no longer a gaming company when it is run by marketing MBAs who have zero interest in the material, only in the constant flow of cash into their pockets. It's nothing new. It will collapse under its own weight of greed. The sad thing is I suspect Rick Priestly never saw the big bucks before being kicked to the curb.

  • @Sonicron86
    @Sonicron86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome!!! I'd tried to get ahold of the Gathering Storm books, but no luck, so I was completely out of the loop on these important events. Thank you for this retelling - you've saved me money, time and nerves! As before, I'll keep recommending your channel to anyone looking to get into 40k lore. You're simply the best there is for that. :)

  • @Blacknight8850
    @Blacknight8850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who fell out of the hobby before this and came back only recently, was this campaign one of those _Storm of Chaos_ style campaigns based on players' battle reports, or was it just a new book that came out and told everyone "here's the new metaplot update"?

    • @Kristian.B.Kristiansen
      @Kristian.B.Kristiansen ปีที่แล้ว

      It wasn't based on battle-reports. The old 13th Black Crusade War was based on those, and this was a decade-later update/continuation/change to that.

    • @Azoth86730
      @Azoth86730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GW has shied away from the global campaigns ever since Medusa V (2006 4E 40k) and Nemesis Crown (2007 7E WFB).

    • @dekai7992
      @dekai7992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Yr Lyth a Wyrth True, and incredibly sad. I played both in the Eye of Terror and Medusa V campaign, and those are among my fondest memories of 40k gaming. We need something like this again.

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The second, but with lots of extra rules and scenarios so you could play along

    • @Blacknight8850
      @Blacknight8850 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for confirming. With how complex this whole arc is I figured it was either something tightly scripted or something made to tie a bunch of player-generated events together ("Wait, then the *_Necrons_* got involved?!")

  • @dalgafaik966
    @dalgafaik966 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great summary. I've read all three of the books, and even I needed that! Can't wait for the following series! Thanks, Ian!

  • @vegancam
    @vegancam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's this? Ian not pronouncing Cadia as "Caddia"? 😜 But seriously, absolutely fantastic video mate! As an old, old, olddd veteran of the game I had pretty much given all the Primaris/Guilliman guff a miss and skipped out on reading the new lore. So this did nicely. Cheers.

    • @ArbitorIan
      @ArbitorIan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll relent on KAY-dia but ca-TA-chan is the hill I'm dying on.

    • @vegancam
      @vegancam ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair do's. 👍

    • @vaudevillian7
      @vaudevillian7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always said Cadia as Caddia too (I started in ‘96) still feels instinctively right but I’ve given in to Kay-dia now (mostly)

  • @mysticlegion8088
    @mysticlegion8088 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was pretty good, thanks.

  • @mrspeigel3593
    @mrspeigel3593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aka the end of 40k