Syma X5C range test after transmitter modification
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- After carrying out an antenna modification to the Syma X5C controller, tests were made to establish the extent of the transmitter range. The stock range is approx 70 mtrs. The modified extended range is......Watch the video to find out....
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These are TOYS. Don't expect reasonable range with them. Line of sight only. I took mine up 60' straight up and it lost it. Fell straight into a pool.
Awesome video dude! I also do drone videos and recently had a 100m crash and caugh it on record! Check out my video to see how and subscribed!
+Drone Paul Yes Paul, we all get a little lost sometimes..lol.!
+mick thebass very true! Ahha
where is the modification part? why talking about the cam instead? :)
+Andy Komarajaya Hi Andy, this is a practical demonstration on how to test the range of any modifications carried out. There are loads of videos on how to modify TX's to extend the range, but not many showing measured results. The reference to the camera give an indication to others as to the weight the X5C was carrying at the time.
mine goes like 80 feet, topps. do you happen to have the link of your video - showing the mod and parts you used? i wanna be like you mick, i wanna be like you. i just posted a vid of my range. mine doesnt go half as far as my glow in the dark striker.. i like these little flyers though. anyway, can i get a link? thanks man.
Hi Kris, the quickest and easiest way to improve the range is to use a Syma X8c controller, providing your existing controller has a blue power on light and not a green one, and the flight control board is version 6 or above. To check the version, open wide or remove the battery door on the drone and you should see the red control board with sm-x5-r v6 printed on it.V is the version number. The X8 controller should bind with it and give you 500 mtrs + range without any mods. th-cam.com/video/UMnNTwfmRXU/w-d-xo.html If you want to mod your X5 controller, the best way is to solder a cut to 1/4 wave length pigtail to the antenna pads on the radio and use a washer to attach the bulkhead fitting to the housing. You could then attach a 2.4 ghz 2db gain antenna and should get around 250 - 350 mtrs. Hope this helps man.
That’s really impressive bro. Not sure what mods you did though because the video didn’t show that part.
Hi david, the mod was to replace the antenna wire with an extension cable (Pig tail ) soldered to the pads and a 2.4 ghz wifi antenna 2db .Alex did a good vid showing where to connect to. See link. th-cam.com/video/XBQZvvIiOlM/w-d-xo.html
Hi Mick. would you say that camera is way better than the stock camera that comes now with the X5C? Is it worth ordering the syma without it and taking this one? thanks and pretty nice video.
Hi Jose, yes this camera is better than stock. There is a link on this page, if you scroll down you should see a reply to immanuel. Hope this helps.
Do those low range X5/X5C quadcopters that need range mod have some old revisions of the boards? I am getting 250+ m range with Syma X5 (not X5C) + stock TX without any modifications (the board is revision 6). I bought that X5 + TX + battery + 5-in-1 cable + spare parts for $28 + free shipping.
Hi Chup, Syma have made so many revisions over the years to both the flight control boards and the radio. Most of the range hacks were required in the early years when they changed to X5C- 1 and used rev 3 boards. The radio had a green led power on light and ran a different protocol. Some range was easily extended from 75 mtrs to around 130 mtrs. by re-positioning the antennas. To extend the range further, it was popular to use a 2.4 ghz 2db wifi router antenna screwed onto a bulkhead fitting pigtail and the wire soldered to the antenna pads in the radio. That gave you the option to swap out and test different antennas, and swivel the antenna to the best angle to the plane. It is possible to reach 500mtrs with this setup. The rev 6 boards use the same protocol the X8 model and your radio most likely has a blue led power on light. This type has a much better range, and Syma tried to de-tune it, by tucking the antenna behind the board in the radio. The X5 is mighty hard to see at 500mtrs. so beware.Hope this helps
Hi, thank you very much for the informations! Yes, the radio has a blue LED. I started to reverse engineer the communication protocol. I used NRF24L01+ and a method similar to the method described here: blog.ptsecurity.com/2016/06/phd-vi-how-they-stole-our-drone.html but I got very different results. I have also analyzed SymaX source at github.com/goebish/nrf24_multipro and it does not match the data I captured. Do you maybe know the details of the X8 protocol? I am interested in making both a transmitter and a receiver using AVR microcontroller and NRF24L01+ transceiver. What exactly do you mean by: 'Syma tried to *de-tune* it'? Regards
Haha yes, de-tune is my off the cuff laymans term for shielding. It is not good for a beginner quad to reach 300mtrs outta the box, so they tucked the antenna wire under the board in the radio. In most cases it worked, reducing the range to around 100mtrs, but if you held the radio up at arms length with the back of the radio facing the quad, you could increase the range somewhat. The only thing I can recall on the X8 protocol is, it has a lower bite rate than the early X5s, the actual data is on youtube somewhere try looking for X8 mods. The X8 Radio uses a dipole antenna type set up, one active element and one ground plane element. This is good for at least 300mtrs, and I have managed 500mtrs without any mods. The rev 6 board will bind to the X8 radio, so most use these now for the X5. You wont gain headless mode, but everything else is the same.
The range with my stock Syma X5 transmitter is more than enough. I am receiving packets at 250 kbit/s with NRF24L01+ which is lower bit rate. I think they used 1 Mbit/s with early models. I thought BayangToys X8 might use the same protocol as Syma X8 but here www.deviationtx.com/manuals/html-devo10/ch_protocols.html I can see it uses Bayang protocol which works with 1 Mbit/s (according to nRF24_multipro source code) meaning it is a different protocol. BTW, my transmitter has some undocumented commands that can be activated by long pressing top left button which is otherwise used for high/low rate. There are continuous beeps when I press and hold top-left button (two different patterns). I suspect that might be return to home command for quadcopters that have that function. I still did not catch the data packets sent by TX during those beeps.
Thats right, I remember seeing 1 Mbit/s figure, but I cant remember the lower bit rate figure. All I know that it had some relation to range.You seem to have a better understanding of it than me. The Bayang X8 is reported to be a cloned copy of the X5 and Syma tapped them on the shoulder to say they cant call it an X5, so they named it the X8. Syma also produced the X8 and Bayang followed up about 9 months later with the X16 a revised version of the Syma X8 with brushless motors, altitude hold headless and rth. I had a prototype X16 to try, but I wasnt impressed with it. The body shell fractured easily because of the acute angles, poor soldering on the boards and a whole list of problems. The motors were good though, so I fitted them in a Syma X8 shell and run them from the Syma board and radio. The undocumented command you were referring to on the left shoulder button, is the headless mode. Long press, and confirmed by one beep every 3-5 seconds then long press to release. Short press same button changes rates. Headless mode not available on the X5 v6, that is why it is undocumented.Headless became available on the X5 S v1 board, but I would not recommend using that, as it has other issues. Next step up would be HC versions but some serious DIY mods to the radio for the barometer to function, X8 more stable than the X5. Hey ho thats a different story.
very nice video, can you please tell me what camera you used on the drone?
Hi immanuel, the camera used was an "808 # 16 wide angle lens 720p". They seem to have upgraded these to version 18 now and they record at 1080p. They are very light and the X5 sized quads can carry them well. Here is a link to where I bought mine. www.banggood.com/808-NO_16-HD-120-Degree-Mini-Camera-Module-7g-p-82197.html Hope this helps..
thanks
wow. Great job Mick. Some good video from the 808. Wasn't expecting such clear stable video from a camera mounted to x5c
+MrTColson Thanks Mr T, its not often I get good flying conditions to try stuff out. I did the mod months ago, then lost the quad..wait for BNF from China with another 808, tear them down and rebuild them, balance the props and wait for a day without wind..Haha.
so how much for the 808, how long did it take for it to get shipped to you and what kind of mod did you do to camera?
MrTColson www.banggood.com/808-NO_16-HD-120-Degree-Mini-Camera-Module-7g-p-82197.html
It took about 25 days to arrive, and the main reason for the tear down was to tweek the focus on the lens.I did intend to copper coat inside the shell to reduce noise, (still waiting for that) but the test showed no issue with noise. The software settings were changed to invert the image and saturation up 1 step. Recorded to a 16 Gb Sandisk ultra class10 micro sd in Apple quicktime format. Hope this info helps..Peace my friend...
+mick thebass is it worth getting the camera?
+Drone Paul Hi Paul, the 808#16 camera is a good affordable replacement for the later version X5. It weighs less than 20 grams, has a wide angle lens and is powered by its own battery. So if you enjoy filming your flights, I would say yes..It is worth getting the camera..