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- Located hundreds of kilometres south of Fiji and Tonga in the Minerva Reefs are almost relevant. However, in 1971, a group of ambitious American libertarians attempted to form their own micronation on the sunken atoll. The Republic of Minerva would have been a libertarian utopia; with no taxes or government intervention of any kind. Fortunately (unless you’re a right-wing libertarian) the plans ran aground as the nations surrounding the Minerva Reefs were less than impressed with their new neighbour. But although everyone agrees that The Republic of Minerva does not have a claim on the reefs, the area remains disputed today with both Tonga and Fiji claiming sovereignty over the reefs.
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Those libertarians should have build their City under the sea.
They would need to wait for the copyright on the National anthem to expire, they wouldn't want to anger Disney.
@@Soliloquy084 As if the Disney corporation would ever allow any of their copyrights to expire
Would you kindly hop into the bathysphere?
a Libertarian under the sea is a joke at BioShock, also @soliloquy what national anthem are you talking about ?
This one Hugo, the obvious choice for any city under the sea th-cam.com/video/GC_mV1IpjWA/w-d-xo.html
Sad that "Those Americans at the reef" just made me think how much I'd like to go on vacation.
I see the seeds of a sequel at the end!
Those stories at the end are much less fun.
You'll get to "the reef" again Will.
Forgot about this channel, but happy to see a video again! Really enjoyed it (:
Well I'm happy you're still here even if you (temporally) forgot about me
I saw on the community page the last video got demonitised? :(
@@krissp8712 are you sure? There is an ad at the end of the video, so I'm not sure about that.
It's not very libertarian of them to mint their own coins instead of leaving it up to the population to barter with pieces of precious metals.
The coins were made of gold and silver.
Kinda feels like right libertarianism is a self-contradictory absolute fucking joke of an ideology. Strange.
@@psid9907 lol you ain't wrong
@@psid9907 lemme guess, leftcom or ancom? Lmfao its only contradictory for you.
@@jacobarcher1097 hes very wrong
All right, now i wanna see an alternate history about it surviving long enough, dealing with its neighbours and with global historical events
It wouldn't have survived for very long anyways. Capitalist corporations survive by being bailed out by their respective governments. So called 'pure capitalism' or 'anarcho-capitalism' would be quite unstable and prone to collapse within a decade. I'm not sure why the video mentions that they were syndicalists, since anarchists are usually pro welfare.
@@innsj6369 yup, totally agree
@@innsj6369 I've recently been thinking about whether it would be preferable to live in a country ran by a corporation. A bit like Singapore but with no citizens just an expat community that live there by choice.
@@mattmunn71 Having a country run by a single corporation or small number of corporations is essentially a dictatorship. There is no more democracy.
@@innsj6369 True, but if you have already chosen to live in a foreign country where you can't vote what's the difference. I would like to see a few hundred private countries all competing for my business.
Man, I’m so happy that random group of people weren’t able to settle and leave everyone alone. Would have been terrible. Thank goodness we have LEGITIMATE nations fighting over the land instead.
This sounds like the plot of a popular shoter from the 2000s
I feel old after reading your comment :/
Translation: That time Tonga invaded a sovereign nation and got away with it and then began squabbling with Fiji.
Maybe you're right about the little reef but the Lau group brings History to why Tonga brought it up lol.
Interesting. Tonga is perhaps one of the newest imperialist powers in the world. Who would have thought?
Honestly this is exactly the kind of video I need in order to relax at the end of the day.
Happy you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
No gods or kings!
*ONLY MEN!*
Saw notification from soliloquy. Watched the video. Enjoyed it. Probably will see it again. Actually I will see it again.
Thanks for watching
That subtle poke at the south china sea artificial islands
If my friend Xi Jinping is watching ... I have no idea what this person is talking about. It's just a randomly shaped blob representing a totally hypothetical artificial island. Any resemblance to any real artificial island is entirely coincidental and should not be interpreted as a political statement.
I've been to Minerva reef. it is very lovely as it is but would be a tough spot to build a city. i recommend the book called Minerva Reef by Olaf Ruhen, which details the sinking of a Tongan yacht there in the 60's and the terrible time they had surviving there for several months. Western Samoa dropped the Western and is now called simply Samoa.
Been a while...quality content as usual
Yeah, unfortunately my currant situation doesn't give me enough time to consistently make videos, but I am happy you describe my little videos as "quality content"
It might be worth working with Nebula, I know Inès from DrawCuriosity and Mustard, Sam from Wendover and a couple others work with them for Nebula exclusives that would get demonitized on TH-cam!
Standard is a very secretive organization. I've heard both very good things and very bad things about their business practices. That's not to say I would never ever work with them, I simply don't know enough about them to judge. But, in any case, the ball is very much in their court and I'd be very surprised if they would be willing to support me. At least while I'm still a small creator, and of course if I were to blow up (won't happen but anyway) their abilityto help me would be diminished. The door there seems very very closed.
There has to be sizeable natural Islands that poor and or corrupt countries are willing to sell to the Phoenix foundation.
Or what they can do is send libertarian settlers To the Falkland Islands until they outnumber the British colonist then host an independence referendum
The Falklands are already self governing and very rich with the 4th highest per capita income in the world according to sources like the CIA factbook. So not surprisingly they have a high population growth rate, although their government is picky about about who they allow to work there. But in the words of one of their government's ministers, they can never be fully independent "because of the obvious military threat". So send the libertarians to somewhere that needs their money and has a very low population like Pitcairn Island which has 43 people.
Kudos for using the right flags for Fiji and Tonga navies, even the thin fimbriation of the Tongan cross.
He also used the pennant numbers of real vessels in both navies!
While you definitely shouldn't take my animations as accurate representations of events, I do try and use historically accurate images wherever possible, or at very least historically plausible (as is the case for the pennant numbers - I don'tknow if those specific vessels were the actualones deployed). Of course, I also make plenty of exceptions for jokes are references.
2:22 Fortunately? I see this as a tragedy
Great video. Going to take the car south and visit Liberland this summer. I wonder what it's like.
wow
I don't really know how to respond to this but ... I guess ... thanks for watching.
@@Soliloquy084 woah
im so sad this didnt work out
History is full of such fascinating small scale weird conflicts, like the war of the bucket.
Yup, and they are fun to talk about.
Kind of surprising that this doesn't work. I would have thought there would be at least 1 country willing to sell a tiny, uninhabited, part of their territory for a few million dollars.
Turns out no nation really wants a tax haven next door; and even if you get one nation to sell off a piece of territory to you other countries probably won't recognise you (like Northern Cyprus), furthermore, a subsequent government of the nation you purchased the area from could declare the sale illegal and exert control. And even if by that point you have some level of a defence force, if you're not liked by your other neighbours there will probably be a larger, richer, and more powerful ally of the people you bought the territory off willing to help them correct their mistake.
@@Soliloquy084
Basically, what it is called is power. The elites don't want a bunch of serfs coming together and deciding to self-govern. The most the serfs should have are token elections every so often. The fact is that anyone who cries "oppression, oppression" should see that as a prime example. But I see from your description that you think it fortunate that they were forced under the thumb of larger nations.
I remember these islands from a CGP Grey video I think. I really love but also hate the diplomatic pimples that are partially recognized micro states.
The Islamic Sultanate of Qarsherskiy greets you
Why do you keep using the wrong flags for Australia & New Zealand?
I actually like it, I think it makes them easier to tell apart
Wait, Australia? I literally just downloaded that from Wikipedia.
Statists be like “see that one guy failed at his plan so I must dislike freedom to survive”
Vid is about wo (etatist) nations fighting each other over territory
What it has to do with libertarianism?
I'm not sure I get the point of the video, you obviously don't like libertarians, but all the actual violence was purely from the authority of countries.
What "almost" caused a war was two countries spending their citizen's (and foreign aid) money on pointless posturing.
Without the Republic of Minerva, Tonga would have likely not claimed the reef, and therefore not built navigation aids for the Fijian navy to destroy. This is a story about unintended consequences.
@@Soliloquy084 No no no Owen is right, everytime someone tries to be free politicians pushes the boundaries even further. Libertarians are still right that the State will enslave you no matter what. Even if you isolate yourself in a island.
@@momorama8832 Too bad statists laugh and make fun of us libertarians, despite the irony
Is that the same Phoenix Foundation that MacGyver belonged to?
I think if it was they would have been more successful.
It’s a good day when Soliloquy uploads
What was so relieving that some rich people didn't get to claim a little reef in the middle of nowhere? Seems like there's no good reason anyone else should have cared one way or another about it. And Tongans "fixing the problem" actually caused the problem.
The problem is one of precedence. There are thousands of uninhabited reefs and rocks around the world, and most nations are not particularly enthusiastic at the idea of being surrounded by dozens of small tax havens.
@@Soliloquy084 the precedence of people creating their own nations on uninhabited and unclaimed land?
@@sanman9385
"the precedence of people creating their own nations on uninhabited and unclaimed land?"
Exactly. Soliloquy may say that it's about "tax havens." But, ultimately, he believes the serfs should be ruled over with an iron fist, that there should be no escape. It's the same way businesses prefer there be no competition.
Imagine someone rocked up to northern Alaska where no one lives and then claimed it was their country? Probably wouldn't go down well....
@@sanman9385 it was claimed though.....
as soon as i saw "libertarian" i knew some bullshit was finna happen
Yeah, just yeah.
So what is your opinion (if any) on Sealand. lol.
No real opinion I guess. Micronations are generally a bit funny but mostly harmless.
Sending letters to recognise sounds contradictory to libertarianism...
I am re-reading the bit about Minerva at 1:29, but I just don't understand it - so was the reef named after a ship or not? I'm all fine with comprehending Minerva being born out of Jupiter's split head in mythology though
I really love the new flags given to Australia and New Zealand
You really hate the NZ flag don’t you lol
Not really, I mean I did vote to keep it. I just think it was dumb not to have that other flag as an option.
Use the proper NZ flag
Sweatshops and exploitation and unlivable wages based on voluntary agreement.
The joke is just to funny.
You gave Australia and New Zealand decent flags! 😍😍😍
I hope you do more videos about those other failed attempts
These are always hard comments to give a reply to. Not because they are a bad comment, it's good you liked the video enough to want more but ultimately sequels are likely to happen if a video does well and are less likely to happen if it does poorly. So I guess I should be asking those who would like to see follow up videos to share this one!
Wonder Why's video 'Fun Fact About Every Country in the World part 2' talked about this one. I seriously got a deja vu reading the title.
I have to admit I didn't watch that one.
haters gon' hate
Interesting video. I knew about the republic of Minerva, but the Phoenix initiative is seriously fucked up. Spreading Libertarianism by force sounds contradictory, but seemingly they had no problem with racism too (trying to „liberate“ a part of the Bahamas to save it from black rule... seriously that’s KKK stuff).
Is there any particular reason why you use the alternative flag of New Zealand? If I remember correctly, it has no official status, has it?
It has no official status, but I was mad that it wasn't an option on the flag referendum. So once I made the video on that I started to use it to reference that. After my Puerto Rico video I also use a 51 star version of the US flag. In the end I find it fun.
@@Soliloquy084 I never noticed the 51 star flag. How long do you think you'll use the nail and gear flag now that's it's been a year since it was last active
@@Soliloquy084 thanks for the response. I suppose that makes some sense. It has the further effect inverter distinguishing New Zealand from an Australia. I don’t live in either of those countries; it’s always takes a moment if one übt used to these flags.
Yeah. The 51 star US flag is very subtle. Part of the reason I use it is that it saves worrying about getting the historically accurate number of stars for the time period. Only the most pedantic viewer will check the number of stars anyway, and it's more funny when it's not even an official version.
And the visual distinction between the NZ and Australian flags is also a consideration.
Oh and as for the nail and gear. I use it much less now, mostly only when I recycle an old graphic.
Tfw no more libertarian utopia
Haven’t watched it yet but I’m assuming it’s based
Edit: definitely based
well report your verdict after watching it. (eta, I don't mean this to sound snarky, I am actually curious)
@@Soliloquy084 we were so close to ancapistan...
Too small for a society
We should do this but instead of claiming some island we claim the US government and promptly abolish it
@@qabbala1015 BASED
Why you stopped uploading
That's not the New Zealand flag
Bio shock vibes.
I never heard anything about libertarianism being about removing taxes??
Most are for lowering taxes and many are for minimal taxes while others are for no taxes
Video with the word "Libertarian" in the title: *exists*
20-30 year olds incels who dosent know the meainng of the word: *it's free real estate*
People that misuse and/or doesn't know the meaning of the word "incels": *it's free real estate*
@@FrostbiteDigital 13-30 year old basement dwellers who constantly go on 4chan to complain about post-modernism: *Its free real estate.*
@@Francois39 That was a very terrible attempt at deflection. How do you live with yourself?
@@FrostbiteDigital coffee, nature and work that I'm passionate about, I assume that the basement doesn't provide those things though. My sincerest condolences. Hāere Rā!
Wrong flag for New Zealand
LOL
“Libertarian Utopia” what a funny oxymoron.
yeah, in the interest of preventing doubt, I'm definitely making fun of them.
@@Soliloquy084 I know, I figured.
Would have been interesting to see what happened, too bad real governments stepped in.
Flag for nz is misleading
It's actually based.
You know, they could have just gone to Somalia. Its a Libertarian Paradise.
Liveno refrence
How self absorbed you have to be to try to make your own country with the sole purpose of making money?
As opposed to just being a libertarian?
@@Soliloquy084 What are you then? An authoritarian?
How envious do you have to oppose someone thriving?
>Libertarian
>state
Dumb
@PresidentXiJinping
Dude, don't tell him!!!!!!! I don't need a visit from the folks at the embassy!
"Right wing libertarians" is an oxymoron.
How is it
Finally, someone brave enough to use the actual flag of New Zealand :)
Right wing libertarians at it again
All types of anarchy are nonsense that will never work
@@uhohhotdog authoritarians at it again. Anarchy is already working in day to day life, we just want to expand it further than it already is.
@@DiMadHatter it doesn’t work at all
Anarchists get the gulag
@@uhohhotdog ok tankie
@@DiMadHatter I like the black part of your flag but perhaps we could replace the red with grey?
I love your Kiwi flag.