The tornado should be the same that went into the m715 for the military. It was overhead cam designed by an Italian engineer that worked for Jeep. One of its issues was an external oil line that if failed would run you out of oil. When Jeep stopped us production they made the engine in their south American plant.
@@redclaytraveler1949 one of the engines I see no fault with is the AMC inline 6s. On this old stuff as you know is parts availability. We talked about the 225 v6 and I noticed the other day smelling now makes a cam for them. Couple of years ago the only thing was a regrind that I saw. So some things do happen for the oddballs. An oldtimer at Napa advised me on the inline sixes and said if you want anything you better start getting it cause when it's gone it's gone. On the 225 it seems true. Someone was telling you that that engine went into the 90s and parts should interchange but that's not correct. Several things are not the same and I don't think anything from the even fire motors will work with the oddfire but we would need to research. Ta performance would know for sure but going by there catalogue I say no way. Buick odd fire 231 rods will work but only a full set as the Kaiser rods are beefier and heavier so you can't mix them but I don't know about the even fire rods as an example. Crank is totally different. As always good video and 3 good looking trucks. Hopefully we can keep the old ones going. Sometimes it's about how much do you want to spend. On the 225 for years I couldn't get a starter nose cone as its unique. Supposedly can get it now but I haven't tried one yet.
@@redclaytraveler1949 I hear you the hunt is slightly fun. When it's your daily driver and you are depending on them not so much. I'm retired or retarded now so that relieves some of the stress for me. My 77 was my main driver with the 71 225 filling in on some passions. I was surprised you can't get fenders for the trucks but they do look a little tricky to make. If I come across any truck parts I will remember and try to let you know. A guy here in KC had one as a daily driver but I haven't seen the truck for a few yrs. He worked for general electric and it was out front for years. I haven't seen one for a long time but you never know. I bought a building in a small farm town with some stuff popping up here and there
Thank you. Interesting comparison. In about 1959 I remember riding in a Willys 4x4 pickup truck at Lake Morena, Campo, CA. Always thought I would like one.
1957 was first year for big round gage. 1950 last year for square gage . Tornado was 1963 mid year also longer shaft on T 90 Stronger , frontend and rear had Higher gears and went down the hyway better with Waren overdrive 65-70 max but they like 55-60 mil and the older ones 45-50 max. back in the 70s I had a lot of Willys jeeps over 300
My humble opinion is that Kaiser made a big mistake changing that body style of Willys to a Gladiator style, I think they tried to compite with Ford and Chevy making pickups bigger. I Love Willys trucks, I keeping one alive in Honduras where there’s not parts anymore, still in my family since ‘60’s.
I agree. Don't get me wrong, I love a stepside Gladiator, but it will never hold a place in my heart like the old Willys trucks. They were quite ahead of the era in many ways.
Cool, that makes sense to me honestly. The windshields can go into either truck. I've seen 1949s with one piece windshields. According to what I've read factory split windshields ended in 1960, but who knows? Maybe they made early 1961s with a two piece windshield. They were known to carry over previous things into new year models.
@@redclaytraveler1949 haha start to finish on disc.... just kidding ,so do u get a solid one peice rotor.. with new hub attached? Or u got to use your old hubs? I was thinking what pads are they using to purchase a new set. Like a crossover reference # 900$ is alot to put into calipers&rotors. Does the dual master cyl install in the same spot? Ugly spot for maintenance. Maybe if u could take the frt wheel off and show the disc setup. And where u installed master cyl would be cool. Thnx for your response Bobz.
@@bobziolkowski7363 I filmed the video yesterday about the disc conversion. I should have it up today or tomorrow. I hope it answers most of your questions.
@@redclaytraveler1949 Thank you my friend, I was working on it all day serviced differentials looks like never was changed. I found my drive shaft is bent too today. I'm was close to just up grading the frame & motor together.. but decided to open my wallet. This is a challenge for me... I'm more of a custom builder & different idea guy..
The Briggs keys are common. A lot of riding mowers used the same indak ignition switch. Most locksmiths have the Briggs blanks to make that series of keys. Can't have too many jeeps. There was an insurance salesman not too far from me that had 3 or more of the FC trucks restored. Driving by I used to think wow three of em.
The jump from the old body styles to the Gladiator style ('63?) was a major change. Jeep really took a quantum leap when they made the change. Still like the old models. Owned two in my life. I worked for Jeep some years ago and may still have some of the old Technical Service manuals for the Willys models. I'll take a look and see what that screened opening is actually for. The 230 Tornado was simply a highly technical engine, OHV, and most repair shops weren't up to speed when it came to working on them. It continued on through the M715 models, after which Kaiser Jeep moved to some Buick engines and then the early AMC models and the exceptionally fine AMC generation 2 models, both the 6 and V8's which remain among the best engines ever put in Jeep vehicles. The 258 (later 240) straight six really has no peer.
I appreciate the comment sir. I love the Gladiators. I’m definitely gonna have one as soon as I can get hold of one. I love all the old Jeeps. I only start losing interest when they quit making trucks. I appreciate the information!
Nice trucks!! I have a 1969 CJ5 I fixed up and am currently working on a 1961 Wagon, 226 Continental. I am looking for a 1950s truck. Are you selling the 1956?
Right on! I actually sold the 56 about a month ago. I do have a 1960 truck that is complete but would need a lot of work. I don't know if you have seen the video on it. It's called Another Willys Pulled From The Grave.
@@redclaytraveler1949 thanks. Yes I enjoyed the videos of you saving those two trucks. I will keep watching. Maybe you will find another 1950s model truck. I keep looking. Prices are crazy high for these old vehicles. I am working on the floors and floor supports on the 1961 wagon. Other than front floor no rust, not even in door bottoms. I may get the Kaiser Willys one wire alternator kit for it soon. Do you ever come across the 226 continentals in good shape? Mine doesn’t have any knocks and no oil in the radiator but it’s burning white smoke. Might be head gasket. I will check that next. These motors crack between the cylinders sometimes. Other than that pretty bullet proof. I read they put super chargers on these same motors for Checker I think?
@@jdjeep46 I'm always dragging new Jeeps and Willys home so I wouldn't be surprised to have another one before long. I see the 226 every now and then but they are usually stuck or to far away for me to get. They are great engines! Even if they are cracked between they cylinders they keep on ticking normally. The prices are going to keep going up because they are rare to find in decent shape these days. I have to keep going farther from home to find them at a price I can afford, but they are a great investment. It also varies wildly from state to state.
The round hole in the grill is for the Heater, it takes a black hose similar to a Dryer vent,
That's what I hear, I have never been able to find a truck with it still hooked up or with a working heater box. lol Its good to know.
Now that is a lineup!
Its pretty sweet. lol
@@redclaytraveler1949 Ya man! Good stuff!
@@ericcoffedgp40 Thanks man
@@redclaytraveler1949 Sure thing!
The tornado should be the same that went into the m715 for the military. It was overhead cam designed by an Italian engineer that worked for Jeep. One of its issues was an external oil line that if failed would run you out of oil. When Jeep stopped us production they made the engine in their south American plant.
It was, from what I understand it was a good engine but had a few drawbacks but so does everything else
@@redclaytraveler1949 one of the engines I see no fault with is the AMC inline 6s. On this old stuff as you know is parts availability. We talked about the 225 v6 and I noticed the other day smelling now makes a cam for them. Couple of years ago the only thing was a regrind that I saw. So some things do happen for the oddballs. An oldtimer at Napa advised me on the inline sixes and said if you want anything you better start getting it cause when it's gone it's gone. On the 225 it seems true. Someone was telling you that that engine went into the 90s and parts should interchange but that's not correct. Several things are not the same and I don't think anything from the even fire motors will work with the oddfire but we would need to research. Ta performance would know for sure but going by there catalogue I say no way. Buick odd fire 231 rods will work but only a full set as the Kaiser rods are beefier and heavier so you can't mix them but I don't know about the even fire rods as an example. Crank is totally different. As always good video and 3 good looking trucks. Hopefully we can keep the old ones going. Sometimes it's about how much do you want to spend. On the 225 for years I couldn't get a starter nose cone as its unique. Supposedly can get it now but I haven't tried one yet.
It’s all part of the fun lol I have trouble getting parts for all my Jeeps lol I just do the best I can and try to hold the rigs together
@@redclaytraveler1949 I hear you the hunt is slightly fun. When it's your daily driver and you are depending on them not so much. I'm retired or retarded now so that relieves some of the stress for me. My 77 was my main driver with the 71 225 filling in on some passions. I was surprised you can't get fenders for the trucks but they do look a little tricky to make. If I come across any truck parts I will remember and try to let you know. A guy here in KC had one as a daily driver but I haven't seen the truck for a few yrs. He worked for general electric and it was out front for years. I haven't seen one for a long time but you never know. I bought a building in a small farm town with some stuff popping up here and there
I appreciate it buddy! It’s always good seeing a old rig driven
I love the Willy’s overland panel wagon rear bumper on the front of the56
Thanks! That one came off a Jeepster I believe.
@@redclaytraveler1949 my 48 Willy’s panel wagon has one on the back
The are sweet bumpers! Hard to find lol
@@redclaytraveler1949 yes they are funny thing I was thinking of putting mine on the front.
They look great on the front!
That’s amazing
Thanks buddy!
Thank you. Interesting comparison. In about 1959 I remember riding in a Willys 4x4 pickup truck at Lake Morena, Campo, CA. Always thought I would like one.
They really are fun. Thank you for the comment
I’m with you collect them all
You can't have to many
Love your enthusiasm and your review on the differences. Time to go for a drive.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
1957 was first year for big round gage. 1950 last year for square gage . Tornado was 1963 mid year also longer shaft on T 90 Stronger , frontend and rear had Higher gears and went down the hyway better with Waren overdrive 65-70 max but they like 55-60 mil and the older ones 45-50 max. back in the 70s I had a lot of Willys jeeps over 300
Right on buddy! I'd love to have a later truck with the tornado in it!
I want to tell you that a typical dryer hose fits perfectly🌵
Right on! I'll keep that in mind.
My humble opinion is that Kaiser made a big mistake changing that body style of Willys to a Gladiator style, I think they tried to compite with Ford and Chevy making pickups bigger.
I Love Willys trucks, I keeping one alive in Honduras where there’s not parts anymore, still in my family since ‘60’s.
I agree. Don't get me wrong, I love a stepside Gladiator, but it will never hold a place in my heart like the old Willys trucks. They were quite ahead of the era in many ways.
My 1958 Willy's has a flat windshield and cat eye rear windows. Not sure if this was an option but looks different then most.
Sounds different for sure. I don't think I've seen one like that before, but it sounds badass.
@@redclaytraveler1949 I really wanted to post a picture in the reply but I don't see how to.
@@giftmeasub9981 Send them to my email if you want. redclaytraveler@yahoo.com
I’m her husband and I have a 61 truck, and the hole up front is the air intake for the heater, also my 61 has a split window.
Cool, that makes sense to me honestly. The windshields can go into either truck. I've seen 1949s with one piece windshields. According to what I've read factory split windshields ended in 1960, but who knows? Maybe they made early 1961s with a two piece windshield. They were known to carry over previous things into new year models.
The hole in the grill is for the heater , they had a flexible tube for fresh air
I’ve heard that as well. That makes sense.
Nice just picked up a 48 to 49 willy truck.. u need to do a video of your conversation on 48.. did just do the front?
Right on buddy! Yeah I just did the disc conversation on the front of the 49. Yeah I’d be glad to do a video on it. What all do you want to see?
@@redclaytraveler1949 haha start to finish on disc.... just kidding ,so do u get a solid one peice rotor.. with new hub attached? Or u got to use your old hubs? I was thinking what pads are they using to purchase a new set. Like a crossover reference # 900$ is alot to put into calipers&rotors. Does the dual master cyl install in the same spot? Ugly spot for maintenance. Maybe if u could take the frt wheel off and show the disc setup. And where u installed master cyl would be cool. Thnx for your response Bobz.
I’ll make a video of it in a day or two and try to give as much info as I can recall. Lol It’s not to bad once you have the components together.
@@bobziolkowski7363 I filmed the video yesterday about the disc conversion. I should have it up today or tomorrow. I hope it answers most of your questions.
@@redclaytraveler1949 Thank you my friend, I was working on it all day serviced differentials looks like never was changed. I found my drive shaft is bent too today. I'm was close to just up grading the frame & motor together.. but decided to open my wallet. This is a challenge for me... I'm more of a custom builder & different idea guy..
The Briggs keys are common. A lot of riding mowers used the same indak ignition switch. Most locksmiths have the Briggs blanks to make that series of keys. Can't have too many jeeps. There was an insurance salesman not too far from me that had 3 or more of the FC trucks restored. Driving by I used to think wow three of em.
It’s cool to see any old Jeeps out in the wild, I always get excited lol
The jump from the old body styles to the Gladiator style ('63?) was a major change. Jeep really took a quantum leap when they made the change. Still like the old models. Owned two in my life. I worked for Jeep some years ago and may still have some of the old Technical Service manuals for the Willys models. I'll take a look and see what that screened opening is actually for. The 230 Tornado was simply a highly technical engine, OHV, and most repair shops weren't up to speed when it came to working on them. It continued on through the M715 models, after which Kaiser Jeep moved to some Buick engines and then the early AMC models and the exceptionally fine AMC generation 2 models, both the 6 and V8's which remain among the best engines ever put in Jeep vehicles. The 258 (later 240) straight six really has no peer.
I appreciate the comment sir. I love the Gladiators. I’m definitely gonna have one as soon as I can get hold of one. I love all the old Jeeps. I only start losing interest when they quit making trucks. I appreciate the information!
Nice trucks!! I have a 1969 CJ5 I fixed up and am currently working on a 1961 Wagon, 226 Continental. I am looking for a 1950s truck. Are you selling the 1956?
Right on! I actually sold the 56 about a month ago. I do have a 1960 truck that is complete but would need a lot of work. I don't know if you have seen the video on it. It's called Another Willys Pulled From The Grave.
@@redclaytraveler1949 thanks. Yes I enjoyed the videos of you saving those two trucks. I will keep watching. Maybe you will find another 1950s model truck. I keep looking. Prices are crazy high for these old vehicles. I am working on the floors and floor supports on the 1961 wagon. Other than front floor no rust, not even in door bottoms. I may get the Kaiser Willys one wire alternator kit for it soon. Do you ever come across the 226 continentals in good shape? Mine doesn’t have any knocks and no oil in the radiator but it’s burning white smoke. Might be head gasket. I will check that next. These motors crack between the cylinders sometimes. Other than that pretty bullet proof. I read they put super chargers on these same motors for Checker I think?
@@jdjeep46 I'm always dragging new Jeeps and Willys home so I wouldn't be surprised to have another one before long. I see the 226 every now and then but they are usually stuck or to far away for me to get. They are great engines! Even if they are cracked between they cylinders they keep on ticking normally. The prices are going to keep going up because they are rare to find in decent shape these days. I have to keep going farther from home to find them at a price I can afford, but they are a great investment. It also varies wildly from state to state.
Long live the willys truck. I have a 48 4x4 w/od
They are sweet rigs. Sounds like you have a good one buddy!