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03:23 Miter Saw Dust Collection Update
05:14 Miter Saw Dust Collection Update 2
07:00 New Shop Build Plan
09:51 Bloopers
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I just spent the last two years building a similar size shop and renovating my backyard. The best advice I can give you is to put way more outlets then you think you'll need and put them at 3 to 4' high in some places.
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+1 on the outlets. I just put a detached 3 car garage (for woodworking and a bike shop) with a loft on the property. I did not build it myself but I am doing all the internal wiring, insulating and HVACing myself. I am going overboard on the outlets and they are ~49" off the floor. Look forward to the series.
Definitely more outlets and a bit higher, also I would put some in places you might not think you need it. Maybe it’s an outdoor one at the back or something? A big enough door to get larger items in for sure. Maybe a skylight, 220 power you never know…looking forward to this project for sure.
Suggestion: Make the new shop deeper. There is always a need for more shop space, and you can pretend that fitting a bigger RV in it will increase the resale value.
Tips, I've sent you pictures before of my shop up here in Canada. Tips: 1. make sure your permits are in order so your ready to rock come spring, 2. infloor heat is a must if you get cold weather. sooo comfortable to work in and cheap to run (not install though worth it) (no dust movement with infloorheat= shop cleanliness!.) 2. as someone else mentioned= more outlets and dedicated circuits than you think you will need, give yourself some options on where you will put higher amp tools, plan ahead on machine locations. drop down electrical line or infloor electrical lines to tablesaw etc so no tripping on extension cords. Separate Air line runs for both woodworking and you mentioned steel work...I have two areas in my shop space, one dedicated for woodworking and a small area for steel work, car maintenance etc. The last thing you want to do is run a greasy air line around your shop over a wood project and bring grease with it, not fun, run some lines from your air source to multiple locations and keep them separate.! looking forward to watching the build. I build mine and only subbed out the concrete and infloor heat. you can do it!
Im currently re-doing my garage. Heres a few things I've encountered so far.
1. Start your permits/variances EARLY. i started mine in march, and took 3 months if good working weather to get ironed out. Variances took most of that time but even the permit took 2 full weeks, and they already knew what i was doing from my variances.
2. Go as big as you can reasonably afford to go. Youll never ever say "theres too much room in here, i wish it was smaller"
3. An upstairs or loft is a great way to add more functionality and storage to a shop to keep the main floor open.
4. Get a panel big enough to supply 220v, and at least 12 breakers.
5. Outlets are easy enough to add in later, unless you finish the walls. If you do finish the walls leave a 1 foot loop of extra wire at each box, so if you decide to move it or add another box in between what you have, you can.
6. Water spigots / sink is great if you can figure out plumbing. My garage plumbing wont work, so ill have a sink that drains into a 5 gallon bucket. Not ideal but better than nothing.
7. Outlets in your eaves. Fir Christmas lights or anything else you might want to use it for.
8. Windiws are ridiculously expensive, use sparingly
Good luck with your build, cant wait for the videos!
220 outlets everywhere you may do metal work. LED diamond lights on ceiling., full dust collection system.. overhead i beam for electric hoist. (Don’t forget the outlets above. Separate room for air filtration system and air compressor. All lines plumbed along with dust collection . In floor heating . And Proper ventilation in ceiling ..
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Do a tradition framed building on a proper foundation (no pole barns!!) and “finish” it before you start to use/move in. You will always want it bigger.
Congratulations, and good luck on the shop build. Some suggestions that involve not doing what I did while working on turning my garage into a shop:
Run network out there while you're running power, if for no other reason than to be able to add wireless access points, and definitely more than one line (redundancy & future expansion). Cat 6 is 100M max (~315 ft) per run, but it looks like you should be able to make it, and definitely in conduit. Yes, conduit is expensive, but not as expensive as having to dig it up because a line failed. Alternatively, Ubiquiti point to point wireless units are very good
Plan to enclose the air compressor (if you're moving it) so you can deaden the sound, though make sure you leave some room around it for servicing and cooling, and if you're plumbing the shop for compressed air, don't forget to put a fitting near the door so you can easily have easy access to compressed air in the driveway (ex: adding air to car tires)
Don't forget the exterior outlets! I kick myself for this at least once a month from spring to fall...
Make sure you have floor drains! It makes cleanups of major "oopsie doodles" like knocking over the 5 gallon bucket of primer that had a gallon and change left in it (at least it was water based!)
If you plan on going full ham, consider adding a two post lift, it makes oil changes and tire rotations a lot easier, and can be used for a lot of things besides working on cars (example: hang drop cloths off of it - instant spray booth). Yes, they're expensive, and yes, they require additional planning (floor needs to be designed and reinforced to support the weight and bolt them down, and you need a VERY high ceiling for starters)
My dream shop has: (1) radiant heat in the slab, (2) sound proof dust collector and compressor cabinet, (3) dust collection ducting under the floor for machines that will be out in the middle of the shop (table saw, etc), (4) high ceilings with dust collection running through the attic, (5) lots of natural light, (6) nicely finished concrete (smooth and dead level).
I know this is late but you mentioned wanting ideas for things I would include in my own shop if I were to build one. One thing I always thought would be a good idea is to design the layout (specifically the plumbing and electrical rough-in) so that one day if someone wanted they could easily convert the shop space to a mother-in-law apartment. Plan stud locations, plumbing (water and wastewater, specifically in the slab), and electrical circuits so that someone could slap up just a few interior walls and convert the shop into an apartment with relative ease. I assume you will have plumbing in there anyway, might as well work to future-proof it. Anyway, good luck. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
10' ceilings with 9' doors (that's what I just built for my shop). Allows for dust collection system to be out of the way, and you can bring your tractor into the adjoining garage ... if you've got a tractor 🙂 You might also consider putting your dust collection system outside, that would help with sound, and keep the dust out of the shop when removing the chips/dust from the hopper. One other idea is to make a booth for finish work, paint spraying, etc. You can hang it from the garage doors, kind of like a shower curtain.
I actually did the last thing in my shop, I placed a overhead storage area above my garage door and used metal conduit with 4 shower curtains to close off the area, also my exhaust fan is on the same wall. Works Brilliantly for finishing and keeping paint and stain off my tools
Loved the foundation measurement. I did (and said) the same thing to the footings when I built my house 33 years ago. Imagine my surprise when the diagonal was too short. To make a long story short, the footing on the North side of the foundation is 18 inches wider than it was originally planned; cuts down on the settling, though.
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Just one advice: More power! If you want to get into metal work, you gotta have 240V and plenty of it. And don't forget LOTS of outlets! All over!
In floor heating, in floor outlets, hidden dust collection plumbing to name a few things to think about in the new shop. At the least 9 foot ceiling height. Over install your 110 volt wall outlets on different breakers. Also might as well preplan for air filtration system. Soundproof closet for your air compressor and dust collection system. I'm sure I'll think of a lot more....
Oh man, I love a good shop build. Please extend my sincerest wishes to your neck, arms, back, and shoulders. Looking forward to it!
Congrats on all the recent success and the big projects unfolding in the future. As a dad of 3 boys under 6 myself, all I can say is props to you and your ability to learn and DIY the scale of projects that you do. I'm (slowly) starting to learn that time is usually a bigger hinderance than cost. Whatever you can sub out to save you that time on the things your don't enjoy doing yourself it 100% worth it in my opinion. However, I'd love to see what you can come up with on your backyard build and what you are able to tackle yourself.
My wife and I recently built a little shop in the backyard for woodworking - some ideas I would suggest: 1) spray foam insulation before you put up sheetrock - helps sound & temps, 2) electrical outlets & reels on the ceiling which pull down and retract up, 3) 50% more LED light fixtures than you think you need now - your older eyes will thank you down the road.
I would consider doing the foundation as a crawl space instead of a slab on grade. The benefit here for a shop is you will be able to easily run your dust collection up and to the middle of the floor instead of in the rafters with drops. You could also more easily put outlets on the floor in the middle of the shop. If you want to get real crazy with it do a full basement you can never have too much storage :) It is something I plan to do whenever I build my shop building. That is a ways out though.
With that many trees, you're gonna be spending a lot of time cleaning that pool!
Auto cover, expensive but worth it
Looking forward to your shop build and back yard upgrade projects. I recommend putting air compressor in a closed area to reduce noice. Put air connector outside so you can have air for your truck tires if need be. The last suggestion comes from an old woodworker who always told me take the size of your shop that you want to build and double it. Build that! You will wish you did in two years! Lol 😂
Best of luck excited to watch the progress
Add some hardline compressed air hookups and vacuum/dust collection ports (plus one or two floor level ones to sweep into). No one likes tripping on hoses!
I'm digging the bloopers! I can 1000% identify with them. Sometimes I wonder if I should "warm up" before recording. Anyway, excited to see a shop build!
One thing that I did when I built my shop last year is - 3 in-ground electrical boxes, so the stuff in the center I can plug in. I have 2x 120's on the outside and a 240v in the center for my table saw.
Also, add 240v circuits throughout the shop, I had an idea of where I wanted my tools, but I did 2 on the back wall for my welder and plasma table, one up in the corner for a dust collector. etc
Go ahead and do the foundation for your shop addition. Concrete likes to cure in cooler temperatures so you will have less cracking. Plus your retaining wall along the right side and across the back will need to be cured thoroughly before backfilling. Then when spring gets here you can “Hit the ground running” with framing while its still decent temps outside. And the space can be used as extra parking until you frame.
With all the stuff you're adding, drainage can be an issue. Just make sure all rain water can get away from the house, shop, and hardscapes. Your neighbors will appreciate if it's not all diverted to one concentrated spot at the edge of your yard also. I'll be ordering the dewalt non-slider dust chute. Thanks!
I'm putting a lot of thought into that aspect, agreed it can make things go bad quick!
Give alot of thought to the size of your shop...then triple it.
Give alot of thought to how much power you'll need...then double it.
Give alot of...you get the idea.
Completed a 20x28 shop in may. Started in Oct and wasn’t terrible building in winter. Did all but cement work. It’s awesome.
Super pumped when I saw the thumbnail for this video. I am thinking about building the exact same 2 car garage. I will holdoff on my built to watch your videos to make sure I do it right. I do plan to move the bump-out on the right forward and have the door/patio are pointing out the back. So Excited!!!
Separate compressor, metal and paint rooms..... Bathroom, Mezzanine office, all separate 20amp plugs and 50amp plugs, gas heat with a mini split for AC, lots of windows facing the pool, area for frig and microwave, lift table recessed into the floor, storage above garage doors, exhaust on opposite side of pool, make it twice as long as you initially planned!
So you think a shop won't add to your property value? Try building a horse barn.
On a more serious note, here's are some suggestions:
Full air plumbing. Mechanical air dryers are pricey but you can easily rig up a condenser array out of iron or copper pipe and stick a filter on the end of it to get the rest. Think of your air connections like electrical outlets and put one with a separate pressure regulator everywhere you think you might need it
Ceiling outlets and/or ceiling mounted air hose and electrical cord reels.
Separate shop spaces for wood and metalwork. Metal filings, grinder dust and cutting oil are all nightmares in a woodshop. I bought a second drill press for my metal shop at an estate sale, most of my other major tools are wood or metal specific.
when you pour the pad, put radiant heat in the floor. It will keep your shop warm and dry all year long.
Things to heavily consider:
Radiant slab heat (no airflow, less dust movement, healthier, more comfortable, big upfront cost but cheaper over time)
Closed cell foam insulation (best R value per inch and air tight if done right)
Zip R sheathing (comes with rigid foam attached, great for thermal break)
Exterior room behind building for dust collection unit with just the main trunk piped in through wall (quiet, doesnt take up workshop space...Can also keep boiler for radiant heat in exterior room)
Side mount garage door operator and run garage rails as tight as you can to ceiling (pretty standard these days but just in case, saves overhead space and just a cleaner look)
Don't get the cheapest garage doors, R value matters and installation matters. You can get decent seal around perimeter with proper installation and seals.
Since its detached you don't need to drywall interior. I would plywood or OSB the interior walls. paint if you want but way better than drywall in my opinion.
Congrats! Very much looking forward to more content from the business write-off, I mean home improvement! 😂 Wish you all the success. Oh, and once you go built-in heated floor, there's just no going back. So much more efficient and effective.
Insulated slab with proper details where the slab and walls meet is game changer for heating and cooling.
I had a 24x24 shop built with a single bay door. 10’ ceilings too. It took about a month from start to finish. I did the insides with 7/16” OSB and all wiring is on the wall in 3/4” EMT. I did all of the wiring myself with the supervision of an electrician. All circuits are 20amp except the A/C.
I also added an 8’ porch to one side like you have shown. Added two ceiling fans to the porch. Can’t wait to see yours.
Add large over hang/extend roof for carport style parking for vehicles not able to fit in garage. I don’t miss NE Ohio winters and scraping snow.
Travis, I spent my career working in big time construction, oil refineries, power plants and a brewery too. Find a good local general contractor to get that stand-alone shop built. You make the videos of the process and you both will be better off for it.
Travis - If you're going to have a compressor and a dust collection system, you may want to think about adding both on as a lean-to building off the back or side of the new shop.
Pros: LESS NOISE!!!!! ...Ah sorry... Less noise. Not having a giant compressor start up while filming will be a huge benefit. The same goes for the dust collection vacuum noise.
Cons: You'll need to go outside to empty your dust collection bin/barrel.
I've watched other YT builders create a dedicated space for the noisy stuff, and all say it's 100% worth the time and investment.
Your 1st choice when building is decide to do it with cash, no debt.
First off, I want you to know, for me, your channel is awesome. I have a backyard shop today. Not huge but organized. I was one of the three that won the Ron Paulk "show me your shop" contest recently. It is not that my shop is amazing, but it is to me. I can do some woodworking projects and all my carpentry products I need for our home. The key for me and many of those in my neighborhood is that my workshop "fits into my landscape" as we live on a corner with no side fence to corner street. That is my suggestion for you as from what I can tell your home looks lovely. Perhaps take special consideration to your large doors. Go with something more than a standard overhead garage door. Maybe something unique with some architectural value to it. I know that I enjoy "more" working in my shop because it fits into my landscape. Also, I like your new idea with levels to join. Thanks for all you do! Michael Grandinetti.
Great suggestions! Thank you
Highly suggest putting a few more 220v outlets in your shop than you think you'll use.
Also while you have studs open plan a winch hung from the ceiling, so you put studs where the c-channel goes
Add some kinda lifting device for larger material handling or larger pieces of work. Gantry, davit or monorail crane styles are the common with chain falls or electric chain falls, 2 ton is good all around size. Building should be sized / floor engineered to house an RV , to increase resale value. Many people spend the money with radiant heat, you may consider a grid of electrical outlets in the floor for different types of equipment( look at future equipment weights for footings or thickness of slab). Looking forward to the build.
I have been saying I need a "swing set for the kids or a gantry So i can clean a deer if i ever want to!!!
To add value to your home in the event of a future sale offsetting most of the costs for a home that already has an adequuate garage I would make sure Shop build(sic) can be used as a RV, Boat, Travel Trailer, Camper storage area. Single garage Door only with seperate 3'0" mandoor, garage door height ideal is 15' and width of 20' with a minimum 2'6" return on each garage door jamb gives a target inside dimension of 25' wide. Length should allow for minimum 25' foot outboard boat with a two axle trailer or 40' deep to get bare depth for walk around. Building height must be adequate for the door height, since your home is already two story maybe shop would look best if this roofline elevation was used for additinal structure. GET PLANS PROFESSIONALLY DRAWN AND PERMITS PULLED BEFORE STARTING ACTUAL BUILD. This last step will pay for itself whenever you obtain bids for work you decide to outsource. New sub. Ray Stormont
If your suggestion is an RV sized shop… you’re talking big! 14 foot doors and something on the order of 50’ deep to get the biggest sized RVs in there. I would highly suggest upgrading your electric to the main panel so that you can have a dedicated 200a service to the shop/garage. We just spent the last 1.5 years converting our barn to a garage/shop/office. Couldn’t afford to pull the trigger on a new 400a service but wish I could have.
I would also suggest low center drain, all LED lights, dedicated 50a for an RV. Hardwire network out to your shop from the house and like others have said, plenty of 20a outlets everywhere you look including a ceiling mounted pull down extension reel.
I'm excited to watch you do this. We just moved into a new home with 1/2 acre. That has room for a shop to build, plus & pool & even a garden.
Cool! Look forward to the build.
My suggestion - not exactly knowing where your home is - install PEX pipes in the floor so you can add warm water run through the tubes to keep the shop at a constant temp in the cooler months - keeps your feet warm. Plus heating the slab also has some thermal mass so once up to temperature it is easier / more efficient to stay warm vs heating the air. Use the slab as a radiator… You could also go crazy and add a solar collector on the roof which could supplement the heated slab in the winter and possibly be used as supplemental heat for the future pool.
Don’t forget a bathroom in that detached building. Easy to overlook and will certainly help with resell especially if it’s roughed for a shower. Also a dog wash station seem to be increasingly valuable and they can double as large parts wash stations.
Run 1 inch conduit under your concrete and come out at all 4 walls, place a 5th run where your table saw will live so you dont have to step over a cord or have a cord hanging from above... this takes planning, you are good and layout with your software so have your final layout ready... what ever you think your budget is gonna be plan on it being 2x the cost
I agree about the utility running, would be so nice!
@ShopNation that's what I did 3 years ago and I have dedicated 20a for each of my power tools. Also run 4 outlet Junction boxes every 5 feet at the height you perfer... I know your in Ohio so new code states a GFI for every breaker and my inspector wanted tamperproof plugs.
Install a room with a deep sink and a toilet with a on-demand water heater. It will save you time running back to the house.
I think building an RV garage is the way to go. And add value to your house.
I recently wired my garage with all power on the ceiling. Strongly recommend it.
Pour concrete now. You can start cutting studs in the garage and get it framed in a day.
You should look into natural swimming pools. They are diy friendly, free of chlorine and chemicals, and if done correct, they look amazing!
Run extra conduit to the house. Have a dedicated air compressor spot not in the shop controled by a timer switch in the shop so it shuts itself off. In floor heating is the only way to go for woodshops to prevent issues with sawdust and other heating systems. Good luck
Before building anything: drainage. Have a drainage plan that encompasses everything you're thinking about doing. Having the shop slab drain into the pool is.... less, than optimal. Unless you're cool with swimming in a pond.
Having worked at a place i need to work on a pool at, I would NEVER EVER EVER buy a house with a pool. They are such a headache, and SO expensive.
Just the pump for the pool is like $2500 or $3500. And that's for a 23k gallon pool, nothing huge.
If you DO get a pool, MAKE SURE to get a calcium filter (can't recall the proper name). Calcium buildup is a big issue, and having that taken out of the picture will save you a lot of headache (the pool I work on has had MANY issues from calcium buildup. Valves break or don't close all the way, the chemicals don't feed properly, the pumps can get destroyed, there's junk on the bottom of the pool that clouds the water.... It's pure bad news. It's a little more money (ok, well, it's like $3k, but you're already spending a fortune on it, so it's not much MORE), but you will have a lot less headaches from it. Also, a pool cover would be a good idea.
I didn't read all 300+ comments before jumping in so I hope that I don't duplicate one, but drainage. Carving out another section of your property and shifting the water flow around is a bigger deal than people often think about, especially if the next thing is another hole in the ground for water to not really flow through... Keep on keeping on man!
My two biggest wants in my next shop:
Completely walled off and separated closet for your dust collector. Run the pipes or hoses through the ceiling or walls.
Alternating 240v and 120v every 6ft.
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For the new shop, 1. obviously watch the grades around the shop looks like in the rear you'll need to put a retaining wall in or build it into the foundation. 2. if you're thinking about doing metal work you might think about a gantry system to help move things in and out. 3. if you want to build it for a boat then I'd recommend 25' deep at a min. that will accommodate up to an 18' boat usually. 4. if you plan to have any kind of attic space think about adding an attic elevator it really saves the back.
Love it, thank you
Well working toward shop greatness.. I really hope you add a bathroom to your new shop and add space above for a small apartment that can be used as a youtuber guest area or a office space. It doesn't have to be finished out at the current time. I have a 30x50 I put up and I built it tall so I could add a loft space for my own personnel area. For 3d printers and my reloading/gun area.
I like this idea. Bathroom for sure.
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Starting from scratch, I would make a trench system with removable grates to run dust collection, air hoses and possibly electrical through. If planed out right it makes your runs more efficient and saves valuable wall and ceiling room for maximum storage. I'd also at least run 1 1/4 " conduit for all your electrical to make it easier to run future circuits or adding on to current ones. The best insulation you could do, a mini split and a good way to control humidity would also be a major life (and wood) improvement.
The floor trench system sounds amazing...killer idea
Very cool , congratulations . Looking forward to the build, plus I’m looking forward to being able to have better dust collection on my older Ridgid miter saw , the Ridgid battery holders are still on my wish list
You cannot put in too many outlets into a shop. Especially some higher up, and especially them 20 amp ones/ 30-50 amp ones for 240 volt stuff.
I love the idea. I built a 20x40 shop last year. When I carved out a bathroom space and an insulated “air closet” for my compressor and dust vacuum the remaining space, while adequate is cramped. Bigger is better. I like the entry alcove because it opens floor space in the shop and is a nice design element. By the way, and not for nothing, I was - WAS - a swimming pool contractor for about 20 years.I would be happy to have a conversation about pitfalls (many), dos and don’ts, equipment selection (critical) and so on. I’m not interested in building but I enjoy sharing my experiences.
By the way, I have an 11’ interior plate height, 10’ garage door (Airstream clearance, jus’ sayin’), and all surface mounted EMT electrical conduit and seven 220v circuits (water heater, table saw, RV 50amp, jointer, dust collection + 2 spares). The surface mounted circuits make it soooo easy to add circuits later.
Anyway, looking forward to the build.
I'm really excited to see the Metabo miter saw is on your list. I love my saw but I was feeling left out not being able to get one of your dust collection upgrades.
First a new shed, then a new workshop property and now a new garage/workshop...very nice 👍!
I’ve built two garages myself. I prefer 2x6 framing for better insulation. Use 3/4” ply on the interior - it’s totally worth it and you can screw into it anywhere without worrying about finding a stud. I prefer to run conduit on the outside of the wall so you can always add or change outlets. Don’t build anything less than a 10’ ceiling if you can get away with it. My present garage has stairs going to the attic, which is nice but they take up valuable shop floor space. I’ve tried integrating storage into the stairs to make up for that. It is nice to have an attic for spare materials, rarely used equipment, etc. try to make the trusses as deep as possible for insulation. My old garage had R30 on the ceiling and the concrete alone served as a thermal well and kept it pretty comfortable. If you can afford radiant heat, do it. I’m my present garage, I have a mini split and it can barely keep up. Also, make the garage as deep as you can. In the off chance you need to pull a truck in and close the door, you’ll have room behind it. 24’ deep is the minimum, go 28-30’ if you can. Most trucks are 20-22’ long with the tailgate down and you’ll likely have workbenches along the back wall. If you put in windows, put the above your workbench area so you can still mount tools on the wall. I also kind of wish I had a double man door but I didn’t want to take up more wall space. A door to the rear is also nice if you want to take stuff outside to work (out of sight) but you don’t want your neighbors coming by asking what you are doing an interrupting your workflow.
Looking forward to the shop build! Loved the shed build too!
Second level loft storage over tall ceiling with motorized lift. Dream big 😉
First Kayne drops a new freestyle, now Shop Nation dropping plans for a garage build. Heel ye!
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I’d really recommend you see about putting the foundation in this fall. The weather won’t hurt the concrete, and then you will be able to start whenever you want to in the spring- without waiting for the ground to dry out, etc.
Dang it, that makes a lot of sense
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I imagine you are going to do an outdoor kitchen but didnt mention it. Can't wait to see it all turn out.
I built my 24X32 shop with a 12/12 pitch roof so I could have a room upstairs for storage. Like you’re planning I started out in the spring, worked through the summer. Did almost all myself so feel free to reach out if you have questions or need a sounding board. One thing I suggest is over do it with power. I put in a 200amp breaker box, had the local power company run separate power to my shop. When doing outlets and over head lights. Go overboard, create rows or lights or sections on different switches so you can pick all or some on or off. For outlets, count up what you think you need then double that and plan ahead. Drop conduit or pull strings in places you may want power later. I know this sounds beyond what’s needed and hopefully it will be but just never know.
Good luck. I’m interested in seeing what you do their. I’m going to be my own general contractor in a sense. I’ve got grounds prep in several weeks. The Amish will be here in February/March to put up the barn and then concrete will be poured after that. Then I will see about moving the electric in the yard so my box will be in the new barn.
Let me know if you want to discuss my plans for electrical, air, and dust collection. I’m not far from where you are located.
Since your building from the ground up, I'd look into running the dust collection piping in the slab. Gary Katz has a shop tour video and he mentions he did this in that video. It will take a bit of pre-planning and you'd be a more locked in, but it could be nice to have all that under ground and freeing up more ceiling space and not having drops in the way. I plan to do this if/when i build a shop.
If you can get the subcontractors to let you video their work in detail, it would be great!! I like to see details of all phases of construction. Some other TH-camrs skip the electrical, plumbing, HVAC, drywalling. More details, the better for me. I'm looking forward to the spring as you hit the ground running 🏃♀️Thank You!!
building a new shop is awesome and not really that hard. I have full confidence in you. I am currently building a new shop myself. I had only hired a concrete contractor because I just didn't want to deal with that heavy stuff and I wanted the floor professionally done. Currently the skeleton is up and I am getting my brothers and dad out this weekend hopefully the help with the tin. Then I can start wiring and insulating. The biggest struggle is the tool layout. I want to get that somewhat down before I start the wiring. Have fun with it , it really isn't that hard. Just ask around what the building codes are and you are good to go.
Super excited for you with the house shop! Can't wait for that content before, during and after!
On the new shop: See if you can get all your ducks in a row by mid February or so. If you can get the ground work and slab done before Spring starts, that will give you a head start.
The biggest thing I wish had been added to my 60x30 that was not... plumbing. if its super expensive I get it, but even a grey water tank and just water to a utility sink to wash up at and not bring messes inside is very underrated
Can’t wait for the Metabo miter saw dust collection. And I’m like you I don’t how what that piece is for either. Maybe it’s time after three years to read owners manual. Lol. The shop build would be great to watch. You asked for ideas for the construction. 1. Figure where dust collector will be and mid floor tools, then lay down piping and conduit for dust collection ports and electrical outlets, even run collection pipes to other wall underground. It will give the shop total openness and look so much better. That’s all I got
With respect to that piece on the Metabo saw that confused you... it's designed to support small stock during cuts. Extend that piece all the way out & use the saw to do an initial cut thru the plastic - after that, it's set help prevent tear-outs & kickback on small items. It's a legacy design element from the original Hitachi C10FS which utilized a small fence as all wood stock (including crown molding) was designed to be cut flat, not against the fence.
Makes sense, thank you!
New home shop: Power. Lots of power. I would say at least four or five circuits.
Most definitely think of where you want your potential metal and your wood working to be split. Because you'll create quite a few sparks when doing metal work. And a possible built in main storage for all the dust collection so it's nice and quiet in there.
Heating and a possible epoxy coat are also definitely important, and maybe an overhead area for either storage or just a nice hangout / mancave area. Maybe even a setup for an office, who knows.
Looking forward to it!
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Oh man, you beat us to the “we know a good concrete guy” comments. 😊
Looks like you all will be very busy. On shop tips, make it deep enough for a 16’ boat with trailer or have a door big enough for a RV.
Best advice I can give you on your new shop, is make sure you put in plumbing / hot cold water and a bathroom. It's a huge mistake not to have a sink to clean things and a bathroom for a quick pit stop when working. Will save many, many fights if you need to run into the house while still covered in dust/dirt from shop work. You'll thank me later.
Built my shop 24x24 with 10’ ceiling but my biggest mistake was I built a office that ended up taking too much space not enough room to build large items.
Makita ! Thank you, please don't forget us little guys with the 10". great job.
i would make the shop deeper than it´s wide (as seen from your parking space) that way you can work on long projects if needed and load/unload them right to/from the car or a truck.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
A few suggestions for your new build:
1. Think long and hard on the pool, they're great the first couple of years and then become a literal money pit and a real pain in the well you know. If you decide to go forward with a pool have a plan for removal. I have a house with a pool and now that everything has built up around it I'm looking at around $50K for the removal. This is due to the development around it you can't get heavy equipment in for removal so the only option is manual labor.
2. Power, Power, Power whatever you think you will need double the capacity. Wire and labor are expensive redoing it because that new welder needs a dedicated 50amp circuit sucks! As my dad would say, 'go big and cry once'.
3. Climate-controlled environment - mini splits make this pretty easy if you have the power.
4. Finally, in a standalone building if at all possible I would consider running water for a utility sink and toilet.
Good luck and have fun life is short.
too funny, my thoughts exactly, the POOL! yes everything you said, great when kids are young but then, well you know. Now at least my dogs go in it.
I love build videos. Can’t wait. Good luck.
Make sure you put at least a half bath in the new shop! Possibly even a stand up shower.
Can't wait to follow along on the shop build. Good luck on the Thangs partnership too.
A few years ago I built my dream garage/ shop, 34x34 with 12’ ceilings, one big 16’ wide door (no dividers in the way), polyurea floors, and plenty of electrical. My only regret is my new enclosed trailer is too tall to fit, so I wish I had gone with a 10’ tall door
Sounds amazing!
Wow very cool Travis so many amazing things happening can’t wait to see it all. So excited for the dust collection for the Ridgid miter-saw been hoping you would do that one for sure . Been working on putting my shop together can’t wait to place an order with you for some Shop greatness items.
I’d be nailing down power needs. If you’re over your current amperage, you’ll have plenty of time to upgrade service or add a second meter if your jurisdiction allows that.
that was a fun watch.. coffee, bloopers, and new projects. Good shit!!!
I would try to plan dust collection built into the floor to avoid pipes or drops in new shop!! Good luck