A Human With Power Over the Dragon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2023
- As we’ve traced the theme of the chaos dragon in the Bible, we’ve come to expect what the biblical authors expect: a dragon-slaying king to come. When the gospel authors introduce us to Jesus, they’re quick to show that Jesus is human, yet he wields power beyond what other humans possess. He triumphs over snake-like adversaries in the wilderness, subdues chaos waters with a word, and even has power over spiritual beings. In fact, Jesus does all the same things God himself does. In this episode, join Jon and Tim as they explore what it means for Jesus to be God’s anointed dragon-slaying king.
Show Music:
“Defender (Instrumental)” by TENTS
All music breaks by Patrick Murphy
Show produced by Cooper Peltz with Associate Producer Lindsey Ponder, Lead Editor Dan Gummel, and Editors Tyler Bailey and Frank Garza. Mixed by Tyler Bailey. Podcast annotations for the BibleProject app by Hannah Woo.
What really drew me to this study is that I dream of snakes often. Thank you!
1. Sin is when an image of God with intelligence chooses a definiton of good that's good in its own eyes and introduces death into the world instead of more order and life (08:18). 2. Here outside of Eden in the chaos realm with the snake still loose, we are to learn to subdue and resist the chaos dragon. 3. The way to enter into the kingdom can only be by letting this mode of existence that we're in die (45:00). Thank you so much 👍
Loved this episode. So many “aha” moments. Thank you BP for everything you do. 🙏❤️
This entire 'chaos series' is helping me untangle or re-wire my perceptions of how the Gospel works in the world. I'm very grateful for you guys at BibleProject. Thank you!
This whole talk of "Having to be swallowed by the dragon to defeat it" keeps reminding me of a scene in Disney's Hercules where he's able to cut off hydra's first head by getting swallowed and then cutting it off from inside. I think I've seen this shown in other movies as well where the outer side of the monster is too tough for a sword and the only solution is to cut it from the insite out, but this is the only one I can remember right now. Very epic image if you ask me
God bless yall!
so good
You always make me have questions:)
So chaos existed originally and was not created. What is chaos that was with God and not created by him?
That was discussed in other episodes of this series. Look them up!
@@vinnybaggins I have watched all other discussions and have asked that before. I realize we aren’t given the information of what existed when the Bible starts at Genesis. Water obviously was already existing. But, I’m trying to wrap my head around God creating all things AND chaos being there to create from/alongside/out of. God was living in chaos prior to creating? Or is chaos only non order/non creation?
Was Gods divine family and council that was created before us already there in the beginning of genesis or are they the heavenly host also created after chaos was already existing?
The best way I can explain it, because it’s not super clear or obvious. But chaos is how the ancient Israelites (and other cultures around them) believed the pre creation state to be. Their view of reality is through order and purpose. If something is disordered (chaos), or has no purpose, then it is comparable to what we as modern Christian’s describe as nothingness.
So it’s not as much that a vast infinites ocean full of dragons existed before God started acting in Genesis 1. It’s that prior to God acting everything, or as we describe it, nothing, was ordered or had purpose.
Also consider, the ancient Israelites, and the Old Testament, describe a snow globe like world that we live on. A flat disc with a glass like dome above us, with the ground held up on pillars that are supported by nothing. That idea we as modern people would say is unscientific, or incorrect, however to the ancients it was real and they used their environment to write about heavy truths revealed to them by the spirit. Just as today we use science to assess that before the Big Bang there was nothing. That is just another cultural/scientific way of describing pre creation.
The simple answer is we don’t know what was before creation, what was there and what wasn’t. But that’s not the point of the Bible, it’s using language understood by the writers of the time to explain a heavy truth, that before creation there was chaos, disorder, unlivable space, a place that could not support life. And then God spoke and made a place for livable, purposeful, life to exist, and to grow in relationship to him. Does that make some amount of sense lol not saying I totally get it but my mind is opening to it finally.
@@christian11111 yes. I know what you are saying. Although, science isn’t what I use since it almost always contradicts and leaves out God. I know that we need to see their view they had back then when reading but the Bible is also timeless and for everyone. I don’t believe Gods words would just play in to a belief that they had back then but would use truth that they could understand in their day and we can understand in ours. God gave them the words to write whether they completely grasped it or not. If I keep praying to understand this more, I will get an answer or at least a sense of not needing one.
Thanks for you input.
@michelleprull4105 chaos did not "exist originally". Chaos is non existence. Chaos never WAS. The word "chaos" is how we, existent beings, talk about complete non-existence.
Who would have ever thought a Black heir to the throne was possible? Would this symbolize a sinful savior? Was Jesus and his wife, the one flesh mentioned in Jn 10;30?
What are the riches of the gettin-viles?
Jesus and propet muhammad are one in the same! Jesus had a wife, and she was one of the two helves, that followed Jesus everywhere he went!
Yahweh does not exist, neither does Elohim! Only in the Hebrews own minds! The truth about Mi-hole, or Elohim represents the feminine side of the Godhead, who is made up of the two helves in the Godhead of Jesus the Christ. Hay hew, yeah you!