You have to have the eq box its not optional. I have some 901s and without it they sound like a 1960s pocket radio. The eq box has a curve that varies by 18dB. You could use a cheap Beringer dsp unit but that would entail guessing the curve or adjusting until it sounds right to you.
I cut to the chase. Got some blown 901's cheap. I ordered all new parts express OEM bose 901 drivers. Turns out, they are better than bose factory drivers. Also had a company in Massachusetts upgrade the eq with new caps and opamps. VAST improvement over factory.
I did that in another video with a pair of portable Akai speakers. It was a vast improvement. Now, I hear that the Bose equalizer makes a difference but even so, I can't image it's THAT significant. What was the brand of driver you used?
@@AudioThrift they are on parts express. It’s more than just bandwidth. It’s compliance, throw, all sorts of physical properties. Superior to Bose. The eq made a significant difference. But, going to better speakers than Bose made than I biggest difference. I prefer actual tweeters, woofers and midrange drivers. Fidelity matters.
parts express are copper coils made in china.... bose used helical aluminum wound on small edge by computer to insane tolerances.also aluminum is not affected by force of magnet
I got brand new 2013 901 on stands with equalizer..sounds great .at times i must jiggle the tape monitor source small button on equalizer as chnl on either side can b diminished..they sound great...also got 2013 cinemate2 with flr bass.for tv ..great
In regards to the eq. I run my series2 continentals, without the eq and I am with you on that they sound great without it. I hear about people having issues but I don’t have any issues. They sound better the more power you put into them. I did see a big change with the brand new Marantz amp with built in DAC I just bought. That was a big game changer. Great video, you have a great sense of humor.
It's all about the glue you use. I use Aleene's Tacky Glue (yes it is a brand). I use the Quick Dry Tacky Glue for attaching to the cone, and the regular for attaching to the frame.
Hello! As iconic as they are, it is easy to make a replica of those with modern drivers that would outperform the 901 and without the need for the equilization box. I am surprised to see anyone trying that! Great video!
I replaced my surrounds also. Mine are series 4. I also have black stands. I've had mine over 40 years and still love them. Now I just have to tackle re-doing to grills. Going to be interesting 😳 I have them off. Just need to decide what to do them with.
Though I do respect Bose thinking about what the room is doing, I'd only use these in a big setup as midranges. Active DSP them as mid, build some similar type cabinets with larger woofers, and set a tweeter array up top. They always made excellent quality drivers, but that's about it.
@@AudioThrift Dayton also makes some 50W X 2 amps with on board DSP for about $40 each. You have a decent looking mic there, maybe try messing around with hooking it and the amp to your computer to use the supplied software to adjust the DSP. Could be a fun project.
Thanks heaps for this video. I just got some of those today and I have the same issue with the foam. Any chance you could tell me the specification to get some foam and where to look for them as well? Also, in regards the EQ, I also don’t have the original ones, would they work with any EQ or only the Bose original EQ? Thanks heaps
As far as the EQ goes, you're going to want the one that goes to your series. Series 1, 2, 3... etc. Let me get back to you about the foam though. It was a while ago that I did this so I have to figure out where I got the refoam kit.
Got a set of bose 42's (not 4.2 but similar) came with the amp and adjuster box. Termites had the amp and adjuster. They had to go. Fixing the speakers
Got series 5 cheap cheap 8 years ago and are sitting in the garage collecting dust, yes, refoam and alight 18 small speakers is scary. I think they are going to sit a bit more.
It's really not as hard as you may think. The biggest thing is to , give yourself plenty of time , don't rush. Just take your time. One speaker at a time. Before you know it you're done with a like new set of 901's. I think it may have taken me a couple weeks. Only because I didn't want to rush and mess up. Then , I let them sit another few weeks before I used them. I just wanted to be sure they were good and dry and seated in. Best of luck to you 👍🏻
I had a pair, and I thought they sounded great. Most of us hung them from the ceiling, hence the holes you saw. They did soak up the power, though. You needed an amp with some grunt.
Yeah, Bose 901 speakers are NOTORIOUS for speaker surround rot and there are so many speakers in those enclosures that make it a real pain. Plus, if you don't have the proprietary Bose equalizer unit, they can sound okay to off to awful; nowhere near the quality of sound that Bose originally intended. Granted, they are iconic beauties and I certainly wanted to buy a pair about 10 or 15 years ago, but I bought a pair of Bowers & Wilkins tower speakers instead and even some smaller Bang & Olufsen speakers for some fun as well as B&O's design aesthetic.
I have a pair of B&O speakers and a matching B&O Beocord cassette player that will be coming back from the repair shop soon. That will be a video in the next month or so...
@@AudioThrift, awesome! I have a couple of B&O Beogram 6500 cassette players too that had belt rot issues as well as problems with the "fishing line" pulley system to open and close the drawers. I have a similar pulley system issue with a matching B&O Beogram CD6500 CD player, but another B&O 6500 CD player deck works perfectly. Plus, have you ever seen those B&O 6500 remote controls? They're HUGE! You'll never lose them behind a couch cushion. Haha! They are a very unique design. B&O has a bit of a reputation of over-engineering their products, hence, the mechanical issues that can arise, but I'm looking forward to your B&O Beocord cassette player video. B&O's industrial design is very iconic and its products belong in any Museum of Modern Art. :)
I like your Channel. You say that you have little experience in repairing what you buy, but you are able to understand things better than a lot of people out there and you have fixed some things. I watch a few channels on repairing this stuff and you learn something from each of them. I don't know that I could recommend just one channel to watch, but if I had to it would be this guy. Hope this helps. P.S. 16 Ohm Speakers must be very difficult to come by now a days or do you use 8 Ohm speakers with some of the equipment that calls for 16 Ohm speakers? th-cam.com/video/ttbgeDagRus/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, that sounds like Bose. lol I'd never heard of the 802 model until you just mentioned it. Interesting that they made a PA speaker based on the 901 model.
Massive problem with these 901, direct reflection, eq unit or nothing totally unbalanced sound imaging nightmare, build and stands ridiculous, avoid at cost
@@AudioThriftVery expensive back in the day and if Im right they needed lots of power.. Had a bar in the early 70's with 4 voice of the theaters in the rear half and 2 large Bic venturi's in the front using a Crown DC300a as the motor. You wanted them all out at 2 am just turn that baby up..
Beautiful set of Bose. Love your honesty and humor.
You have to have the eq box its not optional. I have some 901s and without it they sound like a 1960s pocket radio. The eq box has a curve that varies by 18dB. You could use a cheap Beringer dsp unit but that would entail guessing the curve or adjusting until it sounds right to you.
I cut to the chase. Got some blown 901's cheap. I ordered all new parts express OEM bose 901 drivers. Turns out, they are better than bose factory drivers. Also had a company in Massachusetts upgrade the eq with new caps and opamps. VAST improvement over factory.
I did that in another video with a pair of portable Akai speakers. It was a vast improvement. Now, I hear that the Bose equalizer makes a difference but even so, I can't image it's THAT significant. What was the brand of driver you used?
@@AudioThrift they are on parts express. It’s more than just bandwidth. It’s compliance, throw, all sorts of physical properties. Superior to Bose. The eq made a significant difference. But, going to better speakers than Bose made than I biggest difference. I prefer actual tweeters, woofers and midrange drivers. Fidelity matters.
parts express are copper coils made in china.... bose used helical aluminum wound on small edge by computer to insane tolerances.also aluminum is not affected by force of magnet
I got brand new 2013 901 on stands with equalizer..sounds great .at times i must jiggle the tape monitor source small button on equalizer as chnl on either side can b diminished..they sound great...also got 2013 cinemate2 with flr bass.for tv ..great
In regards to the eq. I run my series2 continentals, without the eq and I am with you on that they sound great without it. I hear about people having issues but I don’t have any issues. They sound better the more power you put into them. I did see a big change with the brand new Marantz amp with built in DAC I just bought. That was a big game changer. Great video, you have a great sense of humor.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
It's all about the glue you use. I use Aleene's Tacky Glue (yes it is a brand). I use the Quick Dry Tacky Glue for attaching to the cone, and the regular for attaching to the frame.
Hello! As iconic as they are, it is easy to make a replica of those with modern drivers that would outperform the 901 and without the need for the equilization box. I am surprised to see anyone trying that! Great video!
If I had more resources/space and could make another channel, I would actually try doing that. That might make a good video.
I think your channel is patching a nice hole in the audio community! Keep going strong my friend!@@AudioThrift
Thank you! 😊
Do you have any recommendations for 4.5’ drivers?
I replaced my surrounds also. Mine are series 4. I also have black stands. I've had mine over 40 years and still love them. Now I just have to tackle re-doing to grills. Going to be interesting 😳 I have them off. Just need to decide what to do them with.
There are a couple of sites that sell vintage style speaker grill cloth that looks authentic. They're pretty rad! :)
@@AudioThrift Thank you ! Not sure I want to go original 🤷🏻 but it's an option 👍🏻
Good job Will! I have series 4
Nice. Do they look really different?
I still have a pair.. 901 series 1's from 1970 hanging from the ceiling. Maybe I should examine the cones
Would be worth it to check, for sure.
Series 1 and 2 no problems with the cones.
Those holes that don’t align for the stand are for ceiling mounts With Chains. Great video, however.
Possibly. That must have been before the guy we bought them from because he didn’t have them hanging.
@@AudioThrift That’s what they are for, however, I have mine on the stands. Yours look great btw.
Thanks.
Though I do respect Bose thinking about what the room is doing, I'd only use these in a big setup as midranges. Active DSP them as mid, build some similar type cabinets with larger woofers, and set a tweeter array up top. They always made excellent quality drivers, but that's about it.
Yeah, I'm afraid I agree. Bose seems to advertise them as being all you need and they're really... not...
@@AudioThrift Dayton also makes some 50W X 2 amps with on board DSP for about $40 each. You have a decent looking mic there, maybe try messing around with hooking it and the amp to your computer to use the supplied software to adjust the DSP. Could be a fun project.
Thanks heaps for this video. I just got some of those today and I have the same issue with the foam.
Any chance you could tell me the specification to get some foam and where to look for them as well?
Also, in regards the EQ, I also don’t have the original ones, would they work with any EQ or only the Bose original EQ?
Thanks heaps
As far as the EQ goes, you're going to want the one that goes to your series. Series 1, 2, 3... etc.
Let me get back to you about the foam though. It was a while ago that I did this so I have to figure out where I got the refoam kit.
@@AudioThrift thanks heaps mate, appreciate your reply.
Got a set of bose 42's (not 4.2 but similar) came with the amp and adjuster box. Termites had the amp and adjuster. They had to go. Fixing the speakers
I think an inline DSP (like the Dayton DSP408) ban be used to replace the Bose EQ. It might even produce better results.
Oh nice. I'll keep my eyes open for one of those.
Got series 5 cheap cheap 8 years ago and are sitting in the garage collecting dust, yes, refoam and alight 18 small speakers is scary. I think they are going to sit a bit more.
It's easier than I made it look. I'm willing to bet that you can do it no problem.
It's really not as hard as you may think. The biggest thing is to , give yourself plenty of time , don't rush. Just take your time. One speaker at a time. Before you know it you're done with a like new set of 901's. I think it may have taken me a couple weeks. Only because I didn't want to rush and mess up. Then , I let them sit another few weeks before I used them. I just wanted to be sure they were good and dry and seated in. Best of luck to you 👍🏻
I had a pair, and I thought they sounded great. Most of us hung them from the ceiling, hence the holes you saw. They did soak up the power, though. You needed an amp with some grunt.
Yeah, Bose 901 speakers are NOTORIOUS for speaker surround rot and there are so many speakers in those enclosures that make it a real pain. Plus, if you don't have the proprietary Bose equalizer unit, they can sound okay to off to awful; nowhere near the quality of sound that Bose originally intended.
Granted, they are iconic beauties and I certainly wanted to buy a pair about 10 or 15 years ago, but I bought a pair of Bowers & Wilkins tower speakers instead and even some smaller Bang & Olufsen speakers for some fun as well as B&O's design aesthetic.
I have a pair of B&O speakers and a matching B&O Beocord cassette player that will be coming back from the repair shop soon. That will be a video in the next month or so...
@@AudioThrift, awesome! I have a couple of B&O Beogram 6500 cassette players too that had belt rot issues as well as problems with the "fishing line" pulley system to open and close the drawers. I have a similar pulley system issue with a matching B&O Beogram CD6500 CD player, but another B&O 6500 CD player deck works perfectly.
Plus, have you ever seen those B&O 6500 remote controls? They're HUGE! You'll never lose them behind a couch cushion. Haha! They are a very unique design.
B&O has a bit of a reputation of over-engineering their products, hence, the mechanical issues that can arise, but I'm looking forward to your B&O Beocord cassette player video.
B&O's industrial design is very iconic and its products belong in any Museum of Modern Art. :)
not all of us have 2k for speakers
Buy an EQ901 from Deer Creek Audio, it is superior to the Bose EQ and will allow you to add in a subwoofer, if you choose the subwoofer option.
i have a subwoofer with the Bose eq
901's may look cool but I prefer a set of 601 's.
Haven't found any of those yet.
@@AudioThriftfound a set 850 us wow
I'm jealous! Do those require an EQ like the 901's do?
@@AudioThrift nope
Those are also awesome speakers 👍🏻
Carl Sagan hair...😁
Billions and Billions
Get the Deer Creek 901 EQ. About $250 and sounds better than the Bose unit.
what is up with the alligator
Inside joke with my coworker.
I like your Channel. You say that you have little experience in repairing what you buy, but you are able to understand things better than a lot of people out there and you have fixed some things. I watch a few channels on repairing this stuff and you learn something from each of them. I don't know that I could recommend just one channel to watch, but if I had to it would be this guy. Hope this helps. P.S. 16 Ohm Speakers must be very difficult to come by now a days or do you use 8 Ohm speakers with some of the equipment that calls for 16 Ohm speakers? th-cam.com/video/ttbgeDagRus/w-d-xo.html
Thank you.
DCM Time Windows
still have a problem with every 802 and I'm in India
Yeah, that sounds like Bose. lol
I'd never heard of the 802 model until you just mentioned it. Interesting that they made a PA speaker based on the 901 model.
next time filter those ashes for gold teeth
"no highs, no lows, must be bose"................................................
Indeed. And without the EQ, that's unfortunately pretty true.
Massive problem with these 901, direct reflection, eq unit or nothing totally unbalanced sound imaging nightmare, build and stands ridiculous, avoid at cost
Was never a fan.....................
I'm a fan of how much they sold for though... gotta give 'em that. lol
@@AudioThriftVery expensive back in the day and if Im right they needed lots of power.. Had a bar in the early 70's with 4 voice of the theaters in the rear half and 2 large Bic venturi's in the front using a Crown DC300a as the motor. You wanted them all out at 2 am just turn that baby up..
But the important question is WHAT did you play at 2am to get everyone out?
@@AudioThrift whole lotta love..........
Good choice.
The criminal probable needed EQ for his set of Bose speakers.