I don't know how two people could see the same movie and feel so differently. I'm a huge, long-time fan of the franchise. I've come to realize, this wasn't made for me. I didn't care for most of the cast, but I can get past that, What bothered me most was the beat down of fan service. I was so frustrated by the end of this movie. From the uncanny valley CGI bringing back a dead actor, the out of character lines that were shoe-horned from previous films, to recycling the climax of Resurrection with the New Born (which I have hated for 26 years)...The constant recycling all pulled me out of this story. I was just sad by the end of this, with the thought that all we have left is to recycle even the bad ideas. But again, this wasn't for me, the person that would feel this as an unabashed, unoriginal retread. It was an effort by Fede Alvarez, Ridley Scott, and Disney, using a Gen Z cast, to keep the property and all of the older movies, alive. The original movies...good or bad..were always a way to launch new, innovative film-makers. This was just an attempt to make sure the money printers don't stall. I would have completely enjoyed simply a well-done, stand-alone movie, that had compelling, well-developed characters, set against the backdrop of the Alien horror aspects. No problem with that. It doesn't have to take the big swings that Prometheus did (which I liked) for long time fans to enjoy, as long as it is well done. I just don't want to feel pandered to.
Same buddy this movie lost me with the premature chest bursting scene just piss poor. Looked beautiful but not for me Alien, Aliens, Alien isolation game were perfect for me the rest don't exist as far as I'm concerned.
You are not wrong and let tell you something it was made for you. That's why the fan service. Making ir for the new generation doesn't excuse them from almost remake all the movies from Alien. Literally same scenes. No surprise and yes, no caracther to root for, except Andy. The ending was the first original thing but it was so out of nowhere. At least the four movie introduce you the idea of clones and mutants the whole movie before the ending. It prepares You for ir. Here it was just Random and The scenes was exactly the same of the first one. I gave it 6/10 well crafted, but just that.
Extemely boring movie this Alien Redux.. ups, meant to say Romulus. Nothing in it is new. Its like a supercut of the first 4 movies. Very predictable script, very formulaic overall. I actually really enjoyed Prometheus and Covenant. With all their flaws, at least they pushed the storyline.. explained a bit more of the universe. And for those that hated Covenant just because they hated the idea that Xenos were engineered and not a natural species... im sorry for them, but the overall concept of the Xenos seem like a weird kind of species to exist in the first place. They always had this feel of an abomination. Evolution at its most mindless and senseless train reck. I think the 'goo' hypothesis makes sense. Like it or not.. xenos do feel like an engineered weapon.. and not an animal. You could also argue that what David was doing is copying something that the Engineers were dojng. Xenos existed before David. Those made by him are his own version of it.
The first 30 minutes were brilliant. The rest of the film did not live up to the set up. The script fell apart in the second half. Appreciate the positive take tho.
It's not personal taste. It's a fact. The script fell aparte in the second half. It basically s long climax but You don't care for ir because they haven't introduce you properly the caracthers, so their deaths are meaningless. They could have done so much more with Rain and Andy's relationship. Not exposition. Actions. That is important.
@citizen3000 I don't see this ending anytime soon, to be honest. The old order of film must be destroyed to allow the new order to take hold. What we're seeing is a transition taking place. All the old franchise’s are deliberately being re-set or used to promote social change messaging. This is a scorched earth policy, and you'll see this continue until nothing is left.
@@maxrdev703 I suspect in this kind of dystopia, keeping people busy with work which could other wise be done with machines or what not is part of the control system
@@suad01 that’s true I suppose. People and machines cost Weyland-Yutani money though. With wages and maintenance for people and synthetics, the offspring would be a truly free worker to them.
My only beefs with the movie is they reused lines from Alien in a cringe way, and the fact they think there is a xenomorph left over from the Nastromo explosion.
@@zephaniahharrison5171So...they managed to get a xeno, extract its DNA, extract the black goo, "print" facehuggers...and it all stayed on the derelict space station. Not one single sample went back to Weyland Yutani headquarters before it all went to shit so they had to go through all the trouble on Hadley's Hope and had to beg Ripley not to jump in the furnace on Fury... Riiiiight.
I watched the first movie at age 10 when it was released in 1979 as well as all the others when they were released, as a fan of the franchise. I have stomached the unbelievable. To me Alien 4 is more a comedy than a horror it is so off the planet (parden the pun). At the time I thought maybe it was a tongue & cheek farewell & send-off for the franchise. I try to find the good in everything but sometimes it gets hard to ignore the bad elements just for the sake of entertainment. It is worthwhile looking at both camps of critique with a level head, at least you may obtain some appreciation of those points which have merit from those perspectives. I hope freddy does. For me Alien Romulus was a ride but I worry for the future of the franchise, if not economically, the quality of the story, characters & scenarios. I have now seen the movie 3 times. It takes that many for it all to sink in. A good movie you can enjoy watching at least three times and pick up on more detail if it is very well written and be able to re-watch every 5-10 years without turning it off. However a not-so good movie reveals its warts & all on multiple viewings because I get to think more about the details than the ride. Sure have the fast pace and thrills a young audience craves however this franchise is now 45 years old and therefore should also satisfy the fans it has acquired since, which means being sensible with the story fitting in with especially the first and second movies. This franchise should be like a wine that has aged to fruition, not a softdrink that changes its formula only for the sake of being something different to the original that made it successful. I know they can do better with raising the intelligence in script writing and bring in scenarios into the story timeline that are as clever as they are fresh while also being sensible. The point of this is the youth will also enjoy the improvements as well and get to re-enjoy the masterpieces that the franchise should be delivering to its fans. It seems to me a lot of experience and lessons from the history of movie making have been ignored, so we now have frankenstein's monster of a movie - built from the body parts of all the movies in the franchise as well as the game alien isolation. I was waiting for a predator to make a cameo. 🤣 Maybe that will be the planet they are heading towards? 🤣 Its almost like a DJ who plays forgettable songs for the sake of showing off his mixing in the transitions while ignoring what the audience wants.
Such an improvement over Covenant. The xenomorph was actually a tangable and threatning being again unlike its erratic tension lacking CGI counterpart. The characters were great and you actually cared about who would survive. Hoping for more quality Alien movies like this.
The scariest thing about this movie was shelling out $10. I was not impressed with this lackluster movie. The performances were very flat and the actors displayed a very narrow range of expression, and lacked the maturity that the cast of the first two films had. The characters never captured my interest, or attention for that matter, and the story never engaged me as a viewer. Romulus had terrible pacing, and was just an incoherent mess. The sets however were fantastic, and shows where exactly all the work and money went. In the end it was just squandered potential and resources with no real substance, or style, just a carbon copy and retelling of every Alien film just for nostalgia's sake, and that is simply not enough to make a quality film. Lazy writing will do that. Alvarez brought nothing new to the franchise except everything we've seen before and he put inexperienced children at the helm. It was as forgettable as Ghostbusters "Frozen Empire". and just about any movie churned out these days, and it just goes to show you how creatively bankrupt the film industry has become.
2:19 Ummm CyroSleep for 57 yrs.. Ring a bell?? The Ripely character couldn't have appeared in Romulus if she wanted too. She's literally drifting in space 😴.. before the events of Aliens..
Sorry! I should have clarified in the video, when I talk about bringing Ripley back, I mean instead of doing Romulus if they made a different movie that takes place after Resurrection where she's an old cynical hermit that gets brought back for "one last mission". Personally, I'm glad they didn't do this and just made Romulus instead.
REMEMBER ALIEN???? I saw a facehugger and i CLAPPED!! I KNOW WHAT THAT IS !!! Romulus is " mid" at best.. Is it trash 🗑️? Certainly not , is it the same ole song & dance ? Unfortunately yes ..
The premise was good, it could have been great, but then they prefer to remade a lot of scenes from the originals and let their story behind. This movie was a long climax. Very long and an ending that really didn't know when to stop. Look like other movie. The caracthers were forgettable and you know they Will die, You are just waiting for ir. There is no surprise. Rain is a very basic, underdeveloped caracther save by a carismathic performance from Cailee Spaeny. Andy is the Best caracther, at least he has a Lot more to do and David Johnson gives the Best performance.
This movie was really good for most of its runtime but why did they end it like it? Why did they remake the ending of the first movie exactly? I have very few bad things to say about the movie although I think some characters were written better than others and the fan service could've been done much more tastefully. I just can't wrap my head around it why they thought this ending would be good at all
I think I understand why there's some people who hate this movie...and its because of the ending. There's a special breed of moviegoer who does not like getting what they didn't expect.
When a movie is title Alien and ends with something that has nothing to do with the xenomorph it's a joke. This design has nothing of the biomechanics in which Giger base his design of the xenomorph. It's more like a zombie mutant from games like left for dead or something like that.
@@recetasfaciles2816 oh, I'm sorry. When did you get your degree in fictional monster biomechanics? Was it right after you got the degree in nitpicking stupid shit that bothers you in movies?
@@marcus_ohreallyus My right as a spectator. I paid for a product and was not satisfied. They gave me a recycling of what I've already seen and on top of that an ending that seems like it's from another movie.
@@recetasfaciles2816Basically you're too soft for Xenomorph - Human hybrids because it against uncharted evolution. MOFO Xenomorph has been about limitless evolution, as if this new cycles didn't start in Aliens 1986.
I swear. All of the positive reviews were bought and paid for by Disney. Otherwise, I will never understand the blind praise im hearing for Romulus. Everyone is praising Romulus for exact same issues that they constantly trash Prometheus and Covenant. The characters are flat and forgettable. The writing for them is nonexistent most of the time. The acting is completely dispassionate... or talentless, however you want to look at it. The fan service is completely inappropriate for a serious Alien film. Not even Resurrection stooped so low as to directly quote better, better movies in the franchise. As a fan, the "Get away from her you b****" line was completely insulting. How or why would they try to cheapen Ripleys glorious moment in Aliens?? This is how i rank the franchise: Aliens Alien Prometheus Alien Covenant Alien Resurrection AVP Alien Romulus Alien 3 AVP: Requiem
I'll be waiting for my check from Disney in the mail I guess 😅 I try not to blindly praise movies and explain in detail why I liked it in the video. And for the record I like Prometheus and Covenant, I wouldn't trash on those!
Exactly what I thought watching it. The only way I could have enjoyed it would have been if I had never seen an alien movie and even then the carelessness of the characters is really disappointing. If you don't support them, the deaths and action scenes won't thrill you. Recreate scenes, lines and even bring a character from the past with horrible CGI. It is not forgiven. This character appears almost the entire movie, it is not just a cameo. For the visuals, the construction of the sets and the use of animatronics, I give it a 6/10, but nothing more.
My only beef with the Movie is lack of action sequences. We got 1. But it's always going to be like this with this series. People just want horror or people just want Marines 😂. But I'm glad they haven't given up on it.
![how In A Violent Nature subverts the 'one last scare' trope [ending explained]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4IUoQlCGUek/mqdefault.jpg)
Like horror movies? Check out this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLXQy-5ZFJGkYqq2MjyByLFlcuusDATC_N.html&si=sAYapAZ0FG12GrmJ
I don't know how two people could see the same movie and feel so differently.
I'm a huge, long-time fan of the franchise. I've come to realize, this wasn't made for me.
I didn't care for most of the cast, but I can get past that, What bothered me most was the beat down of fan service. I was so frustrated by the end of this movie.
From the uncanny valley CGI bringing back a dead actor, the out of character lines that were shoe-horned from previous films, to recycling the climax of Resurrection with the New Born (which I have hated for 26 years)...The constant recycling all pulled me out of this story. I was just sad by the end of this, with the thought that all we have left is to recycle even the bad ideas.
But again, this wasn't for me, the person that would feel this as an unabashed, unoriginal retread. It was an effort by Fede Alvarez, Ridley Scott, and Disney, using a Gen Z cast, to keep the property and all of the older movies, alive. The original movies...good or bad..were always a way to launch new, innovative film-makers. This was just an attempt to make sure the money printers don't stall.
I would have completely enjoyed simply a well-done, stand-alone movie, that had compelling, well-developed characters, set against the backdrop of the Alien horror aspects. No problem with that. It doesn't have to take the big swings that Prometheus did (which I liked) for long time fans to enjoy, as long as it is well done. I just don't want to feel pandered to.
Same buddy this movie lost me with the premature chest bursting scene just piss poor. Looked beautiful but not for me Alien, Aliens, Alien isolation game were perfect for me the rest don't exist as far as I'm concerned.
You are not wrong and let tell you something it was made for you. That's why the fan service. Making ir for the new generation doesn't excuse them from almost remake all the movies from Alien.
Literally same scenes. No surprise and yes, no caracther to root for, except Andy.
The ending was the first original thing but it was so out of nowhere. At least the four movie introduce you the idea of clones and mutants the whole movie before the ending. It prepares You for ir. Here it was just Random and The scenes was exactly the same of the first one. I gave it 6/10 well crafted, but just that.
@@recetasfaciles2816 He literally said why the ending wasn't original though.
Extemely boring movie this Alien Redux.. ups, meant to say Romulus.
Nothing in it is new. Its like a supercut of the first 4 movies. Very predictable script, very formulaic overall.
I actually really enjoyed Prometheus and Covenant. With all their flaws, at least they pushed the storyline.. explained a bit more of the universe.
And for those that hated Covenant just because they hated the idea that Xenos were engineered and not a natural species... im sorry for them, but the overall concept of the Xenos seem like a weird kind of species to exist in the first place. They always had this feel of an abomination. Evolution at its most mindless and senseless train reck. I think the 'goo' hypothesis makes sense. Like it or not.. xenos do feel like an engineered weapon.. and not an animal.
You could also argue that what David was doing is copying something that the Engineers were dojng. Xenos existed before David. Those made by him are his own version of it.
The first 30 minutes were brilliant. The rest of the film did not live up to the set up. The script fell apart in the second half. Appreciate the positive take tho.
Thanks for disagreeing in a kind way! Your take is appreciated.
It's not personal taste. It's a fact. The script fell aparte in the second half. It basically s long climax but You don't care for ir because they haven't introduce you properly the caracthers, so their deaths are meaningless. They could have done so much more with Rain and Andy's relationship. Not exposition. Actions. That is important.
There's a lot going on in Hollywood, and Alien: Romulus is just part of a much wider symptom of a disease state.
@citizen3000 I don't see this ending anytime soon, to be honest. The old order of film must be destroyed to allow the new order to take hold. What we're seeing is a transition taking place. All the old franchise’s are deliberately being re-set or used to promote social change messaging. This is a scorched earth policy, and you'll see this continue until nothing is left.
@@recetasfaciles2816 just because it's your opinion doesn't mean it's fact lol
Great video and really good points brought up! I really liked what you mentioned with Weyland-Yutani seeing the offspring as the perfect worker.
Wouldn't androids be perfect workers?
@@suad01they’re close. They require maintenance and updates though. The offspring wouldn’t.
@@maxrdev703 I suspect in this kind of dystopia, keeping people busy with work which could other wise be done with machines or what not is part of the control system
@@suad01 that’s true I suppose. People and machines cost Weyland-Yutani money though. With wages and maintenance for people and synthetics, the offspring would be a truly free worker to them.
My only beefs with the movie is they reused lines from Alien in a cringe way, and the fact they think there is a xenomorph left over from the Nastromo explosion.
@@citizen3000i think the idea is they were 'tracking' it the whole time.
@@zephaniahharrison5171So...they managed to get a xeno, extract its DNA, extract the black goo, "print" facehuggers...and it all stayed on the derelict space station. Not one single sample went back to Weyland Yutani headquarters before it all went to shit so they had to go through all the trouble on Hadley's Hope and had to beg Ripley not to jump in the furnace on Fury...
Riiiiight.
I watched the first movie at age 10 when it was released in 1979 as well as all the others when they were released, as a fan of the franchise.
I have stomached the unbelievable. To me Alien 4 is more a comedy than a horror it is so off the planet (parden the pun). At the time I thought maybe it was a tongue & cheek farewell & send-off for the franchise.
I try to find the good in everything but sometimes it gets hard to ignore the bad elements just for the sake of entertainment.
It is worthwhile looking at both camps of critique with a level head, at least you may obtain some appreciation of those points which have merit from those perspectives.
I hope freddy does.
For me Alien Romulus was a ride but I worry for the future of the franchise, if not economically, the quality of the story, characters & scenarios.
I have now seen the movie 3 times. It takes that many for it all to sink in. A good movie you can enjoy watching at least three times and pick up on more detail if it is very well written and be able to re-watch every 5-10 years without turning it off. However a not-so good movie reveals its warts & all on multiple viewings because I get to think more about the details than the ride.
Sure have the fast pace and thrills a young audience craves however this franchise is now 45 years old and therefore should also satisfy the fans it has acquired since, which means being sensible with the story fitting in with especially the first and second movies. This franchise should be like a wine that has aged to fruition, not a softdrink that changes its formula only for the sake of being something different to the original that made it successful.
I know they can do better with raising the intelligence in script writing and bring in scenarios into the story timeline that are as clever as they are fresh while also being sensible. The point of this is the youth will also enjoy the improvements as well and get to re-enjoy the masterpieces that the franchise should be delivering to its fans.
It seems to me a lot of experience and lessons from the history of movie making have been ignored, so we now have frankenstein's monster of a movie - built from the body parts of all the movies in the franchise as well as the game alien isolation. I was waiting for a predator to make a cameo. 🤣
Maybe that will be the planet they are heading towards? 🤣
Its almost like a DJ who plays forgettable songs for the sake of showing off his mixing in the transitions while ignoring what the audience wants.
Such an improvement over Covenant. The xenomorph was actually a tangable and threatning being again unlike its erratic tension lacking CGI counterpart.
The characters were great and you actually cared about who would survive. Hoping for more quality Alien movies like this.
The scariest thing about this movie was shelling out $10. I was not impressed with this lackluster movie.
The performances were very flat and the actors displayed a very narrow range of expression, and lacked the maturity that the cast of the first two films had. The characters never captured my interest, or attention for that matter, and the story never engaged me as a viewer. Romulus had terrible pacing, and was just an incoherent mess. The sets however were fantastic, and shows where exactly all the work and money went. In the end it was just squandered potential and resources with no real substance, or style, just a carbon copy and retelling of every Alien film just for nostalgia's sake, and that is simply not enough to make a quality film. Lazy writing will do that. Alvarez brought nothing new to the franchise except everything we've seen before and he put inexperienced children at the helm.
It was as forgettable as Ghostbusters "Frozen Empire". and just about any movie churned out these days, and it just goes to show you how creatively bankrupt the film industry has become.
2:19 Ummm CyroSleep for 57 yrs.. Ring a bell?? The Ripely character couldn't have appeared in Romulus if she wanted too. She's literally drifting in space 😴.. before the events of Aliens..
Sorry! I should have clarified in the video, when I talk about bringing Ripley back, I mean instead of doing Romulus if they made a different movie that takes place after Resurrection where she's an old cynical hermit that gets brought back for "one last mission". Personally, I'm glad they didn't do this and just made Romulus instead.
They could still have done it. They would have to de age her and then either retcon aliens 2-4 out or give her memory loss.
REMEMBER ALIEN????
I saw a facehugger and i CLAPPED!!
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS !!!
Romulus is " mid" at best.. Is it trash 🗑️? Certainly not , is it the same ole song & dance ? Unfortunately yes ..
Yes. Totally is mid
The premise was good, it could have been great, but then they prefer to remade a lot of scenes from the originals and let their story behind.
This movie was a long climax. Very long and an ending that really didn't know when to stop. Look like other movie.
The caracthers were forgettable and you know they Will die, You are just waiting for ir. There is no surprise. Rain is a very basic, underdeveloped caracther save by a carismathic performance from Cailee Spaeny. Andy is the Best caracther, at least he has a Lot more to do and David Johnson gives the Best performance.
This movie was really good for most of its runtime but why did they end it like it? Why did they remake the ending of the first movie exactly? I have very few bad things to say about the movie although I think some characters were written better than others and the fan service could've been done much more tastefully. I just can't wrap my head around it why they thought this ending would be good at all
I think I understand why there's some people who hate this movie...and its because of the ending. There's a special breed of moviegoer who does not like getting what they didn't expect.
@@citizen3000 one part of a movie doesn't destroy the entire thing
When a movie is title Alien and ends with something that has nothing to do with the xenomorph it's a joke.
This design has nothing of the biomechanics in which Giger base his design of the xenomorph. It's more like a zombie mutant from games like left for dead or something like that.
@@recetasfaciles2816 oh, I'm sorry. When did you get your degree in fictional monster biomechanics? Was it right after you got the degree in nitpicking stupid shit that bothers you in movies?
@@marcus_ohreallyus My right as a spectator. I paid for a product and was not satisfied. They gave me a recycling of what I've already seen and on top of that an ending that seems like it's from another movie.
@@recetasfaciles2816Basically you're too soft for Xenomorph - Human hybrids because it against uncharted evolution. MOFO Xenomorph has been about limitless evolution, as if this new cycles didn't start in Aliens 1986.
Nice. I enjoyes the movie especially the ending 😅
A new Alien movie needs a visionary director like Ari Aster
I'm seeing a lot of mixed reviews I personally think it was good
I swear. All of the positive reviews were bought and paid for by Disney.
Otherwise, I will never understand the blind praise im hearing for Romulus. Everyone is praising Romulus for exact same issues that they constantly trash Prometheus and Covenant.
The characters are flat and forgettable. The writing for them is nonexistent most of the time. The acting is completely dispassionate... or talentless, however you want to look at it.
The fan service is completely inappropriate for a serious Alien film. Not even Resurrection stooped so low as to directly quote better, better movies in the franchise. As a fan, the "Get away from her you b****" line was completely insulting. How or why would they try to cheapen Ripleys glorious moment in Aliens??
This is how i rank the franchise:
Aliens
Alien
Prometheus
Alien Covenant
Alien Resurrection
AVP
Alien Romulus
Alien 3
AVP: Requiem
the ranking of Alien 3 is embarrassingly low
@@illtones_ No, it isn't. Alien 3 is just that awful
I'll be waiting for my check from Disney in the mail I guess 😅 I try not to blindly praise movies and explain in detail why I liked it in the video. And for the record I like Prometheus and Covenant, I wouldn't trash on those!
Exactly what I thought watching it.
The only way I could have enjoyed it would have been if I had never seen an alien movie and even then the carelessness of the characters is really disappointing. If you don't support them, the deaths and action scenes won't thrill you.
Recreate scenes, lines and even bring a character from the past with horrible CGI. It is not forgiven. This character appears almost the entire movie, it is not just a cameo.
For the visuals, the construction of the sets and the use of animatronics, I give it a 6/10, but nothing more.
Hahah another salty prequel fanboy. The characters in Prometheus and Covenant sucked, and the writing in Romulus was much better.
I loved it
My only beef with the Movie is lack of action sequences. We got 1. But it's always going to be like this with this series. People just want horror or people just want Marines 😂. But I'm glad they haven't given up on it.