I just got a GMC 2500 AT4 with L8T. I do not tow wnough to justify the diesel and diesel costs on the East Coast are excessive! Thus far I get 15-16 mpg highway which was the same as my 2016 Tundra TRD Pro. Wish it got 18 mpg highway but am thankful it takes 87 octane.
I have no real complaint on my 2024 3500 with the lt8 i get between 14-15 mgp. I own nothing but diesels before this truck. This is my first gas truck. I do tow with it max weight i towed with it so far was a little over 18000lbs and it did just fine. Will be towing this weight again this weekend.
The reason there was so much buildup on the intake valves was same reason they have problems with the map sensor filling up with soot....epa and emissions running your crankcase vent back into the intake and part of the exhaust....your a smart man most ppl wouldn't even think to look at tire size and think how much are them going to cost or there's only 1 size that fits now what you can't them they're on national backorder?? LOL KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING
The more and more I look into the L8T, the more I’m leaning towards diesel, as much as I wanted to be done with modern diesels. GM needs more fuel efficient gas options and more gearing options.
I got a 2020 2500hd l5p and it's a complete lemon. I just hit the magical 50 codes since new, 64 more miles and I will hit 60k. I can't trust it as it has left me stranded in 7 states. Just picked it up again on Friday from the dealership. When it works it's great... but canceling so far 5 camping trips because the unreliability of it is just crap. Please do your research before you drop the money on a diesel. The forums are full of problems... I am going away from diesel and back to gas and definitely not Chevrolet as they don't stand behind their products. Also, look at their warranty, most of your emissions are not covered after the 36k bumper to bumper.
55 PSI for the 70 series tires on 18" wheel on a HD along with those dual spool valve shocks makes this truck ride MUCH smoother than 20" wheels with tires inflated 70-80 PSI on standard shocks.
This is the best-looking GM truck on the market. I would love to see an updated/upgraded gas engine for GM trucks. Something other than the current 6.6 liter gas. Fantastic looking truck.
401 horsepower from the gas engine is still 91 hp more than my 1970 C30 had , and that was in the peak of the muscle car wars . After 1970 they started cutting power , by '75 the 454 was only putting out 240 hp , yet we managed to pull trailers without any problems . Of course we had either 4.10 or 4.56 rear gears and either a 3 speed automatic, or 4 speed manual transmission with a deep low first gear , and no overdrives .
@@JB_WhoWork I realize that this truck is a four wheel drive with a crew cab , but where did they get close to 4,000 lbs of dead weight ? Remember that there is an awful lot of plastic in these newer trucks , where mine was all steel .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 the newer trucks are much larger, and the every component and the frame is larger and stronger than a ‘70s truck. They aren’t even comparable.
@@slidewide1999 I own a '2024 Silverado 3500 regular cab four wheel drive currently and have owned numerous trucks from the Sixties thru nineties . Saying that the new trucks are bigger isn't true , it's an illusion . For me , there isn't any more legroom in the new truck than the old ones . the engine never used to be shoved halfway under the cowl , making them difficult to service , plus you could actually see the engine to work on it .if the frames are so much stronger, hen why hasn't the GVW gone up significantly to reflect the improvement ? At least the old four wheel drives didn't intrude into the passenger side floor leaving them with less room for their feet .
JB just wanted to let you know about your RV slide topper 😲 periodically check it for the material seperating from the rod that goes through the channel, I was sitting in our 281bh and heard a loud bom and crashing noise that i was sure was something busting the window, it was the topper, the material came totally off the rod(for lack of a better word) that goes through the channel, really its a piece of crap but I put it together better and closed the channel a bit, it was easier than returning and all that comes with that, had it for less than 2 months but was past the amazon return, just wanted to give you a heads up, you share so much for so many wanted to share something important with you 👍🏽
Considering the new Tacoma’s are running in the mid 60’s for pro and trail hunter, this is price accordingly. Trucks have just been running up the last several years
Idk i have 2500 zr2 non aev edition gas truck but mine does not have the button to role down all the windows at once, not sure if this is a mishap on gm part or not, other than that love the truck so far
I ordered a ZR2 2500HD with the L8T two weeks ago. I do not tow over 8k lbs. and no steep terrain. I idle a lot so no re-gen worries, no MAPS sensor maintenance, no DEF and diesel is 40 cents higher in my region. If these diesel negatives went away I would go diesel even at 40 cents a gallon higher.
With that size truck, Diesel is a must for mileage alone. I had a 2020 Denali Duramax and would never own that truck with a 401hp gas engine. It would be way underpowered and I don't like the 12mpg around town. If you cant afford an extra $10 when filling up then you shouldn't be shopping for a new HD. Maintenance is easy on a Diesel, the internet makes everyone scared of them. Unless you own a landscape Co or something which you tow local all the time, Diesel is the way to go.
@@fit4ya1975 this is flawed logic. It’s not about if you can or cannot afford gas. It’s about buying what fits your need. That’s why Chevy makes 2 versions….Not everyone needs a diesel that’s more complicated to maintain and have to worry about DEF. The fact this truck can do 12 mpg city, 16 mpg highway in a gas engine is impressive. My 4Runner on 33s has worse mpg than this…Jeeps on 35s, Broncos, etc with big tires all have this same mpg.
@@fit4ya1975 I said that fuel price was not my deal breaker. I do not own a business, am retired. I need the truck for when I haul the tractor. Not one thing I mentioned about the diesel is a internet falsehood. I commented solely on my personal decision, not to tell others whats best for them. I will leave that to people like you.
If you pay $10k for AEV bumpers and wheels then you are paying for the “cool” factor. Gas engines are not cool, diesels are cool. To get a Bison with gas would kill the resell value. I’m not impressed with the suspension angles on this lifted truck. The tie rods are not flat. My 4 inch Cognito lift on my 3500 LT have perfectly flat angles. I am really glad I went with a $73k 3500 LT Duramax. With my Cognito 4inch, 37s, and method wheels it looks really good. Now I admit those AEV bumpers really make a truck look good. If I had those bumpers on my 3500 LT I honestly believe the LT would look more aggressive especially with the 37s and 4inch lift. AEV states they will sell the bumpers by late summer or fall so we shall see.
Sorry to tell you this man but there’s no diesel that’s port injection. The way diesel works requires direct injection and has been direct since it was invented. The intake gunk you see on diesels is not because of that but because of the EGR system. Insert rainbow and “the more you know”.
@@bradbattista I posted above but my 2020 2500hd l5p is a lemon. 50 codes so far since new. Almost hitting 60k miles. We have been left stranded in 7 states. 5 canceled camping trips. I am just waiting for my Ford 7.3l to come in and I am ditching this junk Chevrolet has made. They don't know how to fix them, there are so many gremlins that they just clear the code and say good luck. I have stories after stories over why I wouldn't buy a diesel unless you delete it. The service techs at various dealerships are clueless and/or powerless and they all try to kick things down the road so you will be out of warranty. It's not one dealership but several I have been too. Run from a diesel unless you can make it better.... I have been told my 2 service managers to go delete it... Go to a Chevrolet dealership and bring donuts, then ask them... how are the diesels...
@@kmonto1971 That’s really disappointing. I have a 22 at4 6.2 with zero issues but want a 2500 again. I heard ford are the worst of the big 4. I had a 19 f350 diesel that mechanically was ok but it rode like a tractor. That sucks GM is putting out crap.
@joshtaylor1416 negative. They removed it for the 2500. It was never as useful as advertised though. The Colorado and 1500 both require 4L to engage the front locker. Good for rocks when I go out west, not Louisiana mud where I'm from. I've worked my way up in size as I went from a college kid to a farmer. I'm not really missing it in the 2500 so far.
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I just got a GMC 2500 AT4 with L8T. I do not tow wnough to justify the diesel and diesel costs on the East Coast are excessive! Thus far I get 15-16 mpg highway which was the same as my 2016 Tundra TRD Pro. Wish it got 18 mpg highway but am thankful it takes 87 octane.
I have no real complaint on my 2024 3500 with the lt8 i get between 14-15 mgp. I own nothing but diesels before this truck. This is my first gas truck. I do tow with it max weight i towed with it so far was a little over 18000lbs and it did just fine. Will be towing this weight again this weekend.
The reason there was so much buildup on the intake valves was same reason they have problems with the map sensor filling up with soot....epa and emissions running your crankcase vent back into the intake and part of the exhaust....your a smart man most ppl wouldn't even think to look at tire size and think how much are them going to cost or there's only 1 size that fits now what you can't them they're on national backorder?? LOL KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING
The more and more I look into the L8T, the more I’m leaning towards diesel, as much as I wanted to be done with modern diesels. GM needs more fuel efficient gas options and more gearing options.
I got a 2020 2500hd l5p and it's a complete lemon. I just hit the magical 50 codes since new, 64 more miles and I will hit 60k. I can't trust it as it has left me stranded in 7 states. Just picked it up again on Friday from the dealership. When it works it's great... but canceling so far 5 camping trips because the unreliability of it is just crap. Please do your research before you drop the money on a diesel. The forums are full of problems... I am going away from diesel and back to gas and definitely not Chevrolet as they don't stand behind their products. Also, look at their warranty, most of your emissions are not covered after the 36k bumper to bumper.
55 PSI for the 70 series tires on 18" wheel on a HD along with those dual spool valve shocks makes this truck ride MUCH smoother than 20" wheels with tires inflated 70-80 PSI on standard shocks.
97k for a 1/2 ton is literal insanity. Hell, 97k for a 3/4 is insane…. Holy crap, wtf is going on?
@@nahbro3240the prices here in Canada are something else
this literally is for a special market. The mid level trim hasn't changed price for over 20 years
why look at these if you in the wrong tax bracket....
This is the best-looking GM truck on the market. I would love to see an updated/upgraded gas engine for GM trucks. Something other than the current 6.6 liter gas. Fantastic looking truck.
I like your videos, very well explained and you also go over the important details. Keep it up
401 horsepower from the gas engine is still 91 hp more than my 1970 C30 had , and that was in the peak of the muscle car wars . After 1970 they started cutting power , by '75 the 454 was only putting out 240 hp , yet we managed to pull trailers without any problems . Of course we had either 4.10 or 4.56 rear gears and either a 3 speed automatic, or 4 speed manual transmission with a deep low first gear , and no overdrives .
I agree that the power is enough but I’m sure a 1970 C30 didn’t weigh nearly 9000 lbs which is why I think this truck could benefit from more HP 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork I realize that this truck is a four wheel drive with a crew cab , but where did they get close to 4,000 lbs of dead weight ? Remember that there is an awful lot of plastic in these newer trucks , where mine was all steel .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 the newer trucks are much larger, and the every component and the frame is larger and stronger than a ‘70s truck. They aren’t even comparable.
@@slidewide1999 I own a '2024 Silverado 3500 regular cab four wheel drive currently and have owned numerous trucks from the Sixties thru nineties . Saying that the new trucks are bigger isn't true , it's an illusion . For me , there isn't any more legroom in the new truck than the old ones . the engine never used to be shoved halfway under the cowl , making them difficult to service , plus you could actually see the engine to work on it .if the frames are so much stronger, hen why hasn't the GVW gone up significantly to reflect the improvement ? At least the old four wheel drives didn't intrude into the passenger side floor leaving them with less room for their feet .
@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 GM had to make them weigh more in order to get more lenient emissions standards
this actually looks like a great truck
Are the ZR2 seats more comfortable than the High Country or LTZ seats or are they the same?
ZR2 and HC are the same i believe
The zr2 is another hc but different letters
JB just wanted to let you know about your RV slide topper 😲 periodically check it for the material seperating from the rod that goes through the channel, I was sitting in our 281bh and heard a loud bom and crashing noise that i was sure was something busting the window, it was the topper, the material came totally off the rod(for lack of a better word) that goes through the channel, really its a piece of crap but I put it together better and closed the channel a bit, it was easier than returning and all that comes with that, had it for less than 2 months but was past the amazon return, just wanted to give you a heads up, you share so much for so many wanted to share something important with you 👍🏽
Considering the new Tacoma’s are running in the mid 60’s for pro and trail hunter, this is price accordingly. Trucks have just been running up the last several years
Nice over view of this truck! I'm still torn between the at4x and the bison 🤦🏻♂️
Idk i have 2500 zr2 non aev edition gas truck but mine does not have the button to role down all the windows at once, not sure if this is a mishap on gm part or not, other than that love the truck so far
am absolutely going to get the gas version, my logic is why spend 10k for something you'll never use or dont need.....
And lighter for off-road use which is a big plus.
Someone needs to put a gasser on the dyno, gm is infamous for underrating. I have an at4 hd gas, looking at trading for a zr2 hd gas
I ordered a ZR2 2500HD with the L8T two weeks ago. I do not tow over 8k lbs. and no steep terrain. I idle a lot so no re-gen worries, no MAPS sensor maintenance, no DEF and diesel is 40 cents higher in my region. If these diesel negatives went away I would go diesel even at 40 cents a gallon higher.
With that size truck, Diesel is a must for mileage alone. I had a 2020 Denali Duramax and would never own that truck with a 401hp gas engine. It would be way underpowered and I don't like the 12mpg around town. If you cant afford an extra $10 when filling up then you shouldn't be shopping for a new HD. Maintenance is easy on a Diesel, the internet makes everyone scared of them. Unless you own a landscape Co or something which you tow local all the time, Diesel is the way to go.
@@fit4ya1975 this is flawed logic. It’s not about if you can or cannot afford gas. It’s about buying what fits your need. That’s why Chevy makes 2 versions….Not everyone needs a diesel that’s more complicated to maintain and have to worry about DEF.
The fact this truck can do 12 mpg city, 16 mpg highway in a gas engine is impressive. My 4Runner on 33s has worse mpg than this…Jeeps on 35s, Broncos, etc with big tires all have this same mpg.
@@whocaresjustdoit Hence the last sentence of my post.
@@fit4ya1975 I said that fuel price was not my deal breaker. I do not own a business, am retired. I need the truck for when I haul the tractor.
Not one thing I mentioned about the diesel is a internet falsehood.
I commented solely on my personal decision, not to tell others whats best for them.
I will leave that to people like you.
@@fit4ya1975 Diesel is not the way to go if you want reliability. That is unless you delete it.
Price is wild but that truck looks amazing
You would think for $90k the kicker system would be in the tail gate which I have grown to dislike in my ultimate Denali
I find the Sierras to be the sexiest trucks ever.
They need to bring back the 8.1 496 block
Too bad the zr2 or at4x is not available on the 3500hd. Ford Tremor Super Duty can be had in f250 or f350
this is because the new 2500 HD is exactly the same as a 3500 exactly except on paper
Theres nothing different between a 2500 and a 3500 beside payload
@@i_am_thad9937 and payload differences is just on paper, 2500 hd is same as 3500
If you pay $10k for AEV bumpers and wheels then you are paying for the “cool” factor. Gas engines are not cool, diesels are cool. To get a Bison with gas would kill the resell value. I’m not impressed with the suspension angles on this lifted truck. The tie rods are not flat. My 4 inch Cognito lift on my 3500 LT have perfectly flat angles. I am really glad I went with a $73k 3500 LT Duramax. With my Cognito 4inch, 37s, and method wheels it looks really good. Now I admit those AEV bumpers really make a truck look good. If I had those bumpers on my 3500 LT I honestly believe the LT would look more aggressive especially with the 37s and 4inch lift. AEV states they will sell the bumpers by late summer or fall so we shall see.
The blackout on a white truck looks like a work truck. I couldn’t personally spend $97k on something that looks like a work truck.
On the regular ZR2 I wouldn’t go white but I like the look of this truck in white with the bumpers 👍🏾
Can get way better pricing on these currently.
@ 2:16 any front bumper sensors?
I prefer the gas Chevy!
Sorry to tell you this man but there’s no diesel that’s port injection. The way diesel works requires direct injection and has been direct since it was invented. The intake gunk you see on diesels is not because of that but because of the EGR system. Insert rainbow and “the more you know”.
I should have went with the gasser. Regret the diesel.
Can you elaborate on why you regret the diesel? I’m going back and forth on the gas or diesel.
Same can you say why? I’m going back and forth as well!
@@bradbattista I posted above but my 2020 2500hd l5p is a lemon. 50 codes so far since new. Almost hitting 60k miles. We have been left stranded in 7 states. 5 canceled camping trips. I am just waiting for my Ford 7.3l to come in and I am ditching this junk Chevrolet has made. They don't know how to fix them, there are so many gremlins that they just clear the code and say good luck. I have stories after stories over why I wouldn't buy a diesel unless you delete it. The service techs at various dealerships are clueless and/or powerless and they all try to kick things down the road so you will be out of warranty. It's not one dealership but several I have been too. Run from a diesel unless you can make it better.... I have been told my 2 service managers to go delete it... Go to a Chevrolet dealership and bring donuts, then ask them... how are the diesels...
@@kmonto1971 That’s really disappointing. I have a 22 at4 6.2 with zero issues but want a 2500 again. I heard ford are the worst of the big 4. I had a 19 f350 diesel that mechanically was ok but it rode like a tractor. That sucks GM is putting out crap.
I think the zr2 looks better
$25,000 Overpriced!!
Front locker? Nope.
The 1500 ZR2 has it. So I’m assuming this does
@joshtaylor1416 negative. They removed it for the 2500. It was never as useful as advertised though. The Colorado and 1500 both require 4L to engage the front locker. Good for rocks when I go out west, not Louisiana mud where I'm from. I've worked my way up in size as I went from a college kid to a farmer. I'm not really missing it in the 2500 so far.
😂😂😂 97,000 for this ? Wtf !!!
Ram and Ford easily 100k+
97k 😂damn alot of money , get one from copart don’t let these dealers screw you for 1000k
U not finna find no 2500 zr2 at no copart
@@i_am_thad9937 most definitely you can . My buddy just got one literally 2 weeks ago . 28k cash 💰 with rear end damage about 4k 7k of body work .