The Story of the Boeing 737 MAX
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Disclaimer: I did not intend to make such a dark video, but the deeper I got, the more I realized what a messed up situation this truly was. I felt the best thing I could do is spread awareness to prevent this from ever happening again. Here are some of my sources:
US Justice Department: www.justice.gov/opa/pr/boeing...
Whistleblower: edpierson.com
2016 complaints: www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/bu...
Senator Blumenthal: • Senator asks FAA about...
No changes between crashes: www.seattletimes.com/business...
"Designed by clowns": fortune.com/2020/01/10/design...
Boeing pushing FAA: www.seattletimes.com/business...
Full analysis of market failure: airwaysmag.com/op-ed/disserta...
737 MAX issues - 2021: www.independent.co.uk/travel/...
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unrelated but could you add captions/subtitles on your future videos? it would be pretty great
Even I do agree to this and recently Al Jazeera did an investigative story on how Boeing has committed fraud and considered more about profits and not about safety
How about a vote?
How many of the viewers would actually sit their feet on a 737 max?
I for sure will never let my family, nor my self for that matter, fly one. That plane has been doomed from the start. It’s simply a design fault with those engines size and placements and having software to make
compensate for it is not my thing.
I’ve always liked the “if it’s ain’t Boeing , I ain’t going” but now it’s “if it’s Boeing, I ain’t going” - with the exception of 777 but probably not the X 😐
@@mr.kjerum exactly
@@mibinmammen7383 true. But it was about Dreamliner
Trust takes years to build, seconds to break, and forever to repair.
This is true
true... and btw, one more like, and this comment hits a hundred..
Very true statement!!
*ahem* Germany
@@j.k.1198lol
I really miss my mum Anne, my sister Quinns, my nephew Ryan and my two nieces Kellie and Rubby., it's bnever been the same again since you left... May you all plus the other 346 continue resting in peace, we love you.
😭😭 my nephew passed away on january this year on a boeing plane crash in indonesia
@@llvaibhavll992 RIP
@@llvaibhavll992 Was it sj182?
@@llvaibhavll992 I’m sorry for your loss...
@@karamsaviation2813 yess
The 737 MAX completely destroyed the 737s reputation. In 2019 the A320 family became the most successful airliner in history, overtaking the 737 family, all because airlines abandoned Boeings MAX in favour of the NEO, the NEO isnt perfect, personally it seems it has more rough landings, and it has a few issues with the CFM LEAP engines, but no issue the NEO has had has been as costly as MCAS
Especially the A321neo. Talk about a total takeover: replacing fleets of the 737, 757, MD-80, and even widebodies alike. Correct me if I’m wrong but I heard that in 2019, something like 65% of all commercial passenger airplane orders were for the A321neo. Things like this don’t just happen naturally.
do some research!
@@jb894 Do you want to expand on that?
@@jb894 here comes the american apologist.
a lot of a310s have crashed too
Never forget the lives lost in these crashes.
That profile pic tho😂
I love Boeing, but my trust for them in the narrow body market has been broken
@@karamsaviation2813 i used to love boeing and after the max fiasco i started losing my trust towards them one time i flew on a 737 ng i was scared af the whole flight
@@crownedaxis8569 Why would you be worried on an NG? It does not have MCAS
@@karamsaviation2813 be careful with the wingtip on the 777x, it looks ridiculous and i dont trust that design
Well done Dan!
Josh would you fly the 737max today as its back to service (personally I wouldn’t)
@@syedyounuszaid997 I would 100% not. What a mess.
@Alpha Jamil Nothing better said than this. Airbus is still open so why fly the selfish, money craving company, when there is a better one that cares about out safety!
for spreading fake news?
for spreading lies?
To my fellow Boeing fans, don't dislike prior to watching the video. Dan made great points to ponder on.
It is true that only toxic fans will dislike this video. The real ones will understand it
i prefer boeing because of the 777 family
@@aeviaowehn3640 Boeing has better long haul aircraft. Short haul is better with Airbus. Medium haul is a matter of preference
I am a true Boeing fan. But I wish the 737 max never existed. Then I would not be making this comment
@@karamsaviation2813 same here dude
I have been following the 737 max story since the beginning and it gets scarier each passing day. The way the corporate overlords are allowed to play with people's lives is not okay.
The FAA seems more responsible than Boeing here, I can't understand how the aircraft got approved in first place, even if it was a mistake keeping it in service even after 2 fatal crashes ... just wow.
Most of this is happening because the corporate overlords at Boeing are friends with the FAA. The company still shows no signs of remorse and just wants their plane back in the air ASAP.
The problem is that the FAA does not have enough inspectors so they had to rely on Bieing to do the inspections for them and tell the truth, We all know how well that worked out.
Boeing flat out lied to the FAA about the inspections and the result was 346 dead.
Congratulations Dan. You have condensed a very complex scenario rather well. I'm still astounded that Boeing knew exactly what the flaws were with MCAS and indeed the probable outcome (crashes) but blinded themselves to the failures they had intentionally engineered into it, distracted by the allure of profit. Truly unforgiveable. I expect them to continue in this vein though, they haven't yet been given the hiding they truly deserve.
MCAS full form : May Crash Any Second
NEO: No Engineering Oopsies
Never more true than now
@@mauzer8k805 now thats how airbus should have named A320 NEO
@@amkgskjsi3840 that would be the best troll
@@amkgskjsi3840 they could use this in their marketing jargon just like what they did on A340, but this time might be more successful.
Boeing was my favorite aircraft manufacturer. Boeing made the greatest passenger aircrafts. But yeah, those were all in the past. The moves Boeing recently made as a company were truly rotten. Even before the MAX incidents, they were trying to eliminate the competition. Then they started cutting corners for profit and sacrifice safety, prematurely blaming the airline and pilots who lost their lives TWICE for a flaw they knew the aircraft had, and still trying to make themselves look innocent, which is unacceptable. Lion Air was Boeing's top customer and their relationship was destroyed overnight when Boeing immediately blamed the airline for the crash. When not even 2 lethal crashes and the loss of over 300 lives made Boeing admit that they cut corners, it's hard to imagine just how toxic the corporate culture is right there. I don't care if the MAX is certified to fly again, I don't trust them anymore and I'm not stepping foot inside the 737 MAX for at least a decade of no MCAS-related incidents.
I'm from Indonesia. I'm not related to those who lost their lives, but my thoughts go to the families and relatives of the victims in Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines. Thank you, Dan for standing up against Boeing and for not being afraid to tell the truth. I've been your viewer for at least 6 years and I'm really glad to see this video.
Exactly right
Back in the day, Boeing truly used to be the gold standard in building high quality, reliable, comfortable airplanes. Then, they bought McDonnell-Douglas. Sources say that after the purchase, the vast swathe of MD employees and their train of thinking mixing in with Boeing’s train of thinking would be a fatal flaw, because MD was known to make cheaper and lower quality aircraft. And when you bring that philosophy to a company with a high reputation, that company is going to cut corners.
@@t.3465 couldn’t agree more
That is really well said, and I couldn't agree more.
@@harrisonschutz6893 now anybody who flies Boeing new planes should keep fingers crossed 🤞 to land safely
i love the new direction your channel has taken as a documentation channel keep it up
An articulate and accurate account of the Boeing MAX fiasco. You short video has communicated the situation with much more clarity than all of the legacy TV news stations! You now have a new career. Professional aviation documentary maker. Well done!
Thanks for speaking out. This tragic story deserves to be spelled out loud and clear for all.
I’d been hoping you’d do a video on this for a minute now, thanks Dan! 💖
nice documentation Dan.....please do more series like this.....knowledgeable and the world needs to know. stay safe.
Thanks for your thoughts Dan. Very informative and also very frightening.
reminds me of how ford knew about the Pintos tendency to catch fire when impacted from the rear, but didn’t bother changing anything because the fines and compensation to victims would be cheaper than redesigning the car
I am so proud of you for speaking about this. I hope boeing gets it together.
Love from Paksitan ! ❣️
Fantastic intro and great video. Love this series. Keep up the great work!!
Cash than care. One of the most painful things any company does to stay in business.
I must say, that making a documentary like this is not easy. But it's definitely worth 5*
it's garbage.
@Ryle the Explorer no, I just don't hop on the bandwagon and I've actually done a lot of research on this topic. Explain to me why there were no accidents, let alone any incidents regarding the max in Europe and North America? I'll tell you why. It's called better pilot training.
Have you seen the standards in Indonesia? Ethiopia is ok, good for an African country but still nothing outstanding.
I made a mini documentary about this, definitely not easy
th-cam.com/video/5u2hwXMed2I/w-d-xo.html
RIP to whoever lost their lives ❤❤
Phenomenal stuff Dan.
Been watching your content for a fair while and this is your best work yet.
Good work lad....you should be proud of yourself mate.
I've always been an Airbus guy, and just... Oh my god.. how could boeing do this.... Even though I kinda expected the new 73 to lose its fame, this was not the rate I expected it to happen... SHOCKED
The fact that you've flown on this plane must make you feel very angry that you could have been one of those people who died.
You bet. About 2 years before the Lion Air accident, I flew on the MAX on that same company, Lion Air. I remember looking at the winglets from the seat window and thinking they were strange. But coming back to that memory, thinking that at any point the AoA sensor could fail and pilots not being told about the control augmentation system... I refuse to fly on any MAX now. Don't mind the older 737s like the NGs, but I am not trusting that plane until it's actually proven.
@@arbiter1er I cannot understand why it took so long for anyone to notice that/those major fault/faults! It's only lucky you and Dan weren't involved in a crash and aren't an extra 1% of the death figures!
I hope noone makes any more slight mistakes that turn into huge calamities!
people are back to flying the 737max
@@arbiter1er it failed because it wasn't replaced properly in the correct manner and also pilots didn't perform well when they could have cut the pitch trim off manually
I’m definitely not flying this aircraft I’m only flying the older 737 jets like the 737 800
Really interesting video as always! Thanks for making it! Hope you’re doing well❤️✈️
It takes guts to do such videos. He and James Asquith YT do risky but well done videos.
Another major factor was when Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas in 1997. McDonnell Douglas was responsible to the cargo door and hydraulic layout flaws on the DC-10 that brought down four planes in less than 20 years (no one survived two of them). The same kind of executives took over Boeing management and it went downhill from the moment the 757 was discontinued.
wow this was crazy thanks sooo much for the amazing educational videos!! If you were my uni prof I would actually listen to my lectures !
Hi Dan! Thanks for another very informative video! Question . . . Do you avoid or try to avoid flying on the MAX? Even after the fixes and recertification, I’m not sure I want to fly on one. Thank!
Boeing adopted a lethal philosophy of profit before safety instead of safety before profit. Boeing deserved all they got, but I doubt many people will want to fly on a MAX.
Well I wouldn't
i wouldn't fly max AND the 787 (only for 787s built in SC though) except JAL 787, but since 787 is going to be built in SC after this then i'm declining every single 787s built after 2020🙄 seriously boeing, profit over lives, i mean you lost lives then your profit will go down or even go loss or bust man😩
@@stoje8405 they have 12bln loss for 2020 .it is quite a lot
@@kirilmihaylov1934 uhmmm i think, airbus have loss too or no? idk but i mean, pandemic causing heavy demand goin down, and thus means demand goin down for both aircract manufacturers, u know what i'm sayin?
@@stoje8405 no they didn't
Can't stop watching your channel for the last few months
Came back to this video after watching the Downfall: The Case Against Boeing documentary on Netflix. That documentary is a must-watch, Dan. It’s amazing.
Really interesting video! What a disaster... Thanks for showing it to us!
Very, very detailed, comprehensive deep dive into the 737 max tragedies. Did you study journalism? You have excellent story telling skills!
Another great video. Thank you Dan.
What an amazing video. Seriously, great job Dan.
All you have to do is go back to what Field McConnell (Abel Danger) and David Hawkins exposed many years ago in great detail.
Field was illegally taken and jailed to silence him on evil atrocities brought to fruition by the most powerful people in the world.
Keep the great work dan! I have an idea for an video: Can you do a video, where you show which countrys are travable at the time?
Very hard to find out - anyway - have a good day :)
I cant believe how small the fine was.
Great video, Dan. Be safe.
One of your best videos to date! Thank you!
This needs to be brought to more light
Your video is very well done Dan. Boeing should be ashamed of themselves. The thing is I doubt any of the upper management people shed any tears about this at all.
There’s no defending Boeing for this. FAA should’ve overseen the gross error but Boeing were well aware of the risks, there should’ve never been two crashes and this many deaths.
it was lion air and ethiopias fault.
@@jb894 boeing still gets the blame, whether they also get it or not.
As a terrified flyer, I will always go out of my way to not get on one of these planes. When booking tickets, I will check the assigned plane model.
Well the aircraft can be changed last minute so you can never be sure
If you buy a cheap ticket, you probably die. As simple as that. A bunch of lousy pilots killed their passengers because they DID NOT FOLLOW Boeing procedures. Boeing cut corners, yes. But in my opinion, based on 20'000 flight hours as a captain, it's the lack of quality of Lion Air's and Ethiopian Air's inexperienced pilots which killed hundreds of people. BTW: Boeing ist probably going to sue "Nonstop Dan" or whoever is responsible for this clip. I published a book about low cost airlines and their third class pilots. Not every low cost carrier has lousy pilots but most of them do. The Boeing 737 MAX is an excellent aircraft. I would fly it anytime!
@Ryle the Explorer When it comes to you... I lost brain cells. What do you mean "don't fly on airlines operating 737's"? Almost all airlines operate that plane. And what's wrong with the 737 anyway? The NG series is as reliable as the a320 family.
Me too.
@@OfficalCheeseAviation As a matter of fact I did my research and I published it in my latest book. Every (!) 737 MAX pilot received a bulletin from Boeing, including the four crash pilots. BTW the 29 year old Ethiopian rookie had less than 500 landings under his belt, mainly during his initial flight training and some on 767 / 777 as Copilot under supervision of his captain.... and from Takeoff to the crash site he never tried to manually fly the 737 . His Copilot was a pedestrian with less than 300 hours total, including tiny Cessna single engine propeller planes. Read the official report, mate.
No doubt this whole debacle will become a case study in engineering ethics and management courses. We talked about similar situations in my aerospace engineering undergrad program, but none were this recent or blatant. I was (thankfully) not working for Boeing during the 737 Max product development cycle.
Great video Dan; make more of these
BRAVO DAN! Always upgrading yourself.
Just terrible. And so sad. I had a former coworker on the Ethiopia flight. May he and his family R.I.P. 🥀
Excellent way of documentation, what greed, ignorance and anti-altruism can lead to. Thank you for your work.
And then there are TH-cam channels (like Simple Flying and the sister channels) who are actually calling the grounding of the planes the biggest problem. Not the accidents, not the new systems and such, not the lack of training, not the lying part etc. They called it an unfortunate grounding. Also they are promoting a new up and coming model of Boeing ('Coming soon'), which is utter bs because there aren't even any designs yet, made a video about the 'amazing inside of a 737 MAX 8 of United' and I can continue about more video's they have made to portray Boeing in a better way. And then the people who watch those channels are saying the channels AREN'T biased.
You did a good job Dan, by summing up what has happened in an unbiased way. Thank you for doing that!
Please keep making videos like this regarding aircraft/airlines- very informative and is what we need in today’s climate of I’ll information 😶
well done Dan. Concise, and easy to understand. Please let us know if we should still aviod the 737Max, or when Boeing might have actually made it into a safe plane. Sounds like it's not worth the risk! Yikes
Thanks for this video❤️
Thanks for making this video Dan. The truth must be told and lessons should be learned. Boeing as we knew it it's long gone.
Great video Dan, very interesting. Here’s a question though... would you fly on the 737 Max now?
If you have to, do it.
I would
the classic thing is? that MCAS was not needed in the first place, and the max could still be in the same type rating as the other 737 models. the EASA test pilot said that he did not feel hardly any difference, whether the MCAS was engaged or not. the 767 and 757 have the same type rating, and one is a whale to fly whilst the other is an over powered hot rod.
Mycket intressant video! Hoppas den får många views!
Way to go Dan, sadly, your best video yet❤
Hi Dan, I’m new to your channel, but have binged your videos recently. This video has significantly fewer views than other videos. What’s your take on that? Is this kind of content not as popular with your audience, or has this video been punished by YT?
Hej Dan,
You revealed an internal comment on the 777X that Boeing is also aggressively pushing out.
Do you think there’s also safety hazards aligning with the release of that aircraft?
I worried now.
Tack.
Well done Dan. Excellent video. I will never be flying on a MAX aircraft.
The first one I was in may have been a neo because the one I was in on the way back seemed to be an older style with slightly rattly Perspex in front of the window on the inside and then the glass it’s self
thank you for highlighting this
Where as the one taking us there had just the triple glazed glass which also seemed to be thinner and much better looking and better at keeping in the heat too
Than you Dan. Just about the first aviation fan calling it as it is. The truth must be told irrespective
These truths need to be told. James Asquith does the same too in a hilarious way!
love the videos keep them coming :)
I love this new series he has, he reminds me of James Asquith YT.
Bestttt!! Proud of you Nonstop Dan!!!!
After SW and AA Pilot's association protested and asked Boeing to focus and train pilots on the safety issues, did Boeing say that pilots of the 737 NG were not told of the MCAS on the MAX because it might "confuse/overcomplicate" pilots.
Imagine getting on a flight and your pilot not knowing about a hidden system and how to deal with it if it causes a problem
Excellent video!
Every company ever: Profit over lives.
Well no. Airbus took enough time to properly engineer their plane and make sure it was safe for flight. Boeing just rushed their plane through the procedures and onto the market so they wouldn't miss out on the money. Ultimate karma is what they got.
@@Christian-cb9jr yes and stock prices
@@Christian-cb9jr Airbus 321Neo also have excessive pitch problem that they downplay. They got their act together due to Boeing being first to end up in catastrophe. I think Airbus is the same, if they can get away with it, why not.
@@souske1990 The a320neo is still a completely safe airplane to fly. The 737MAX crashed 2 times because of the exact same problem. And what's even worse, boeing KNEW about the new system and that pilots were never taught about it, but still chose to advertise their plane so it wouls seem that the pilots didn't need any extra training, just so they would make more profit. Boeing not only engineered the 737MAX poorly, they also put the lifes of thousands in risk for something they knew 100% about and could have been fixed easily by just giving pilots a few hours of extra training. They have so much blood on their hands they're drowning in it.
@@Christian-cb9jr like many companies that want to make money
Tack för att du ropade ut dem, Dan.
This is one of my favorite TH-cam videos
Excellent Dan, concise, factual, unreserved. One point, one of the reason the FAA didn't ground the 737 Max (Trump did) was it was stacked with ex Boeing executives after the FAA grounded the 787 for the battery fires, they remembered what the FAA did to the DC10 after its cargo door problems and when it happened to the 787 they decided this was their way of preventing that from happening again. Point two (just a small one) the original 737 had the same P&W JT8D engines as the 727, just thrust uprated. Third point, Boeing is McDonnell aircraft, not Boeing, McDonnell was forced into a merger with Douglas in 1967, became the major shareholder and were responsible for releasing the DC10 for service knowing it had the cargo door fault. Profits before safety. In 1997 they were forced into a merger with Boeing, became the major shareholder and again brought their profits before safety ethos with them. They knew they had a poor reputation, it is why they chose to retain the Boeing name.
No manufacturer in the western world has had any model of passenger aeroplane fully grounded, McDonnell (now Boeing) has had 3, DC10, B787, B737Max. Says a lot.....
Well done Dan,a thought provoking video.it was ALWAYS the case that profit was more important.boeing got caught......simple.
Thanks Dan for the video
2 dislikes from Boeing employees
He said that boeing employees actually didn't trust the aircraft, so in reality it is probably boeing upper management
@@jorkopeisctshutdown9960 hmm... You've got a point there.
Boeing shareholders and Boeing fanboys
Good video even if I find the advertising at the end a bit distasteful this time.
I feel very sorry for those affected.
And on principle I will never book a flight with a 737 max.
People also forget much too quickly.
Boeing has already slopped with the 737 NG and with the 787.
And despite the tragedy, they really haven't learned anything and are relocating 787 production to the problematic Charleston plant. That underscores the ruthlessness. And safety is still not a top priority either. All those in charge should be ashamed of themselves.
how did nobody go to jail after this
Two years ago I was gonna go on a family trip to Spain and luckily enough my mum looked at what plane we were going on and it was an airbus, if it was a boeng I would have not gone on the trip
It depends on WHAT aircraft you're flying on. Not the company that made it.
Lol yeah because just because it is an Airbus itll automatically be great lol.
@@anavgeekspassion5727 considering even the 787 has some major flaws, I would say, if it is boeing, I am not going.
@@mohit_panjwani Stop being ridiculous lol
@@mohit_panjwani Ok, that's 2 planes. Their older planes are still perfectly safe. The point still stands. That's like saying you won't drink the perfectly safe watermelon juice from [insert generic juice brand name here] because only their apple and orange juice had some flaws.
Can you do a video on Skytrax and the World Airline/Airport Awards? I’m curious to hear your thoughts about them
Real Boeing fans will understand this video
i mean both fanboys from airbus and boeing but toxic ones won't understand the moral of this video probably, they be like "lies on boeing, defamation" or even "boeing sucks" tbh that's only for the new jets, but sometimes toxic fanboys even brought up old proven jets like the 777 which is kinda rudiculous
he didnt explain in the video but the reason why ppl died was cuz the MCAS systems job was to put the nose of the plane down and it got extremely powerful but it malfunctioned and training costs money so Boeing didnt mention in and the pilots nvr had training on how to turn the system off in case of a malfunction and thats why they died cuz the nose kept going down and they kept fighting until they crashed
Having watched hunders of Air Crash Investigation episodes (great documentary series btw), I was completely baffled by the slow to act response of the FAA in this matter. Multiple times in the past, grounding fleets proved to be the right decision on new plane crashes, even more when more than one, on similiat incidents crash. And after 2 crashes with a 2y plane, FAA still was doing nothing. And the blame throwing on the pilots, so brutal. And the punishment is laughable at best
I won't fly on a 737MAX, not now not ever. I'd rather walk & swim.
They should have retired the 737 program in the first place and designed a new plane from scratch.
Hundreds of people would be alive and the 737s would age in museums with dignity.
You’d have a higher change of being struck by lighting several times while driving in your car than crashing in a 737 Max today.
There’s one important details that aircraft manufacturers had to address; transparency in building entirely new aircraft or redesign old aircraft into new (not hiding the failing development of test flight and the project itself). If one lacks the transparency, it could potentially cause damaged relationships to customers and aviation regulators around the world.
Why didn't Boeing have a system where employees can voice concerns like Spacex and even NASA- similar to a go no-go vote- it's so shocking that no one's concerns were considered and if they were- that they were ignored. You can't run a company like Boeing under such a hierarchy
I think it's sad that the behaviour of Boeing and the FAA led to so many deaths and that realistically there's no penalty, no personal consequence for what they did. Personally when flying returns for me after the current situation I won't be using airlines that have bought the 737 MAX for probably at least 5 years (or at the very least routes where they may be using them). I'm sure it's safe now but I don't want to be part of a long term test into safety and reliability.
First the 787 battery problems, then the MAX issue, and now the 777X failing the stress test at 1.48x ultimate load, which never happened with the 777,787,767 etc. It's clear that there are some quality issues at Boeing
Awesome vid dan
Excellent video
13:09 This aged beautifully, and felt like a drop out of the sky...or like a gush of air...
I have a feeling that Cineflix will make a Mayday episode of these 2 crashes sometime in the next few years.
Thank you Dan for telling this story. Or in Swedish, tack så mycket.
I never thought, that I would say this very sentence one day. Me, being a 737 pilot of more than 2000 hours. If it´s a Boeing, I ain’t going, unless I am in the mood to visit my relatives, no longer with us here.
Love your vids btw
Best youtuber ever
That was very interesting and Terrifying !
The 737 ( all )? are dangerous ?
No, the 737 NG and classic are fine
Original has pretty poor safety record, but that was plane of totally different era (and was flown with pretty incompetent companies after retirement from usa and Europe). Classics are better, but now you could find it mostly with small companies with limited budget (not great recipe for aviation). NGs comprise majority of 737 fleet, and their safety record is pretty good, if not great. And MAX was studied under microscope for two years, even with pretty poor current state of FAA
The max is not, the rest are fine
Great video dan!
I thought the 737 had the 707 fuesalage but it was slightly lower to the ground.
Yup. Even 707’s wings were slightly higher which is why the military version uses the full diameter CFM 56 engines (although older than the A320 specific ones and the 737 flat variants)