Exterior and interior overview of the PEBL from Better Bike www.better.bike
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- Introducing the PEBL it is an electric velomobile bicycle created by a company called better bike
It is the vision of the lead inventor Kevin Murray and his son Nevin Murray
This is an overview of the interior and the exterior of this fantastic invention
If you have any questions please feel free to message me at timhellsten@gmail.com I would be more than happy to speak to you
I’ve probably watch all these PEBL bike videos 5 times each over the years. My wife would kill me. I do have a nice electric bicycle but it’s useless right now with 12ºf and icy roads.
This is such a well though out video to introduce the PEBL, showing features that I had no idea it offered. The lights in the storage area, the lights everywhere actually, the rear view side mirrors that fold. All well done. Thank you for a well thought out product.
I would like to drive one in blue island Illinois
How much do they cost
GREAT walk-around ! ... Answered many questions I had about floor pans, heater, reverse, battery locations, etc. Due to advanced age and only 25% heart function after 2 attacks and bypasses I can no longer pedal. I'm thinking about installing a small self starting generator to charge Max power batteries as I ride. Being still with pedals it should be street legal as a peddle trike because power is delivered by batteries. The gasoline charger (permanently connected) should give me the range a gas powered automobile. Plus, no licenses or insurance will be required. These and savings on gas will help the bike pay for itself. Plus, I will no longer have to worry about driving tests.
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I'm getting one on October 😃😃 I'm excited thanks for the review
What a good video I just bought a green Pebl and I should be getting it in about 6 weeks and I can't wait.
I love it and want one it’s has all that I want ini it and heat too. but I didn’t see a cup holder, I came up with sketch of a cover bike just like that one only with 4 wheels and to seat in Front but this one has everything I want in a bike car love it. How many batteries can you put in it?
I am saving for mine. I saw the Elf but at first glance it hasn’t got the Quality it seems to
Me and no floor so In bad weather your feet and legs could get wet have a little rocks and mud mess up
Things as well as your self. It could be lovely when you leave and raining before you get back. The Pebble looks much nicer.
It's an amazing idea for a bike
How does the steering work? Also, do the zipper windows come standard? What all functions come standard?
Tim can you tell me more about the mirrors ..
Estoy enamorado de este auto a pedal. Me encanta. Vivo en Salta , Argentina. Y sueño con tener uno
How much is it
14:36 So that's how to put it in reverse, But do i press it again to take it OUT of reverse?
I’m planning on building a pedal car/ ebike like this and the elf and it will be have models from single person to up to 4 passengers and hopefully going to work on my 1st single person prototype and eventually the platform for 2-4 passenger by the end of 2019
If it has a motor greater than 750 watts or a top speed over 20 mph or 4 wheels, it will not be legal on bike trails and has to be licensed as a car. There are already thousands of 1 person velomobiles.
Do you have a website about it?
@@popeyegordon I know that and there are lots of velomobiles for sure and if you actually look it up there are ones that are four wheels not just three wheels especially if you look on TH-cam. And just to mention all of them are all using electric motors so of course I'm going to be under the limit and technically velomobiles aren't allowed on bicycle trails anyway anything with a motor assistance on it is not allowed on bike trails if you actually look it up.
@@timlocke3159 if you're asking me and not the guy who answered before you commented I do have a Facebook page for my business that I would like to try to get off the ground which I haven't quite got to do much of yet unfortunately I mean I did some bike maintenance last year for about six or seven customers but I've had to restart from scratch cuz I had to move out of the town I was in when I was doing it and I haven't quite figured out how to set that up or had the time to do so yet I've had to go back to working somewhere else for right now and build up my tools again and in the meantime just working on my TH-cam channel for now. If you was talking to me and you're looking for my business though page it's on Facebook if you have a Facebook account just look up moore pedal cars and cycling service
@@greenmachine55 When you look on TH-cam you see bikes from around the world. It is only the USA that has that law limiting e-bikes to 3 wheels or less. Velomobiles ARE allowed on all bike trails - they are just bikes with elaborate wind screens. Almost all bike trails in all 50 states allow e-bikes. You have to search hard to find the few that ban e-bikes. Cities want to reduce car traffic.
Enjoy your fantasies but don't pretend you are anywhere close to actually knowing what you are doing.
Are seatbelts and Helmets mandatory for the pebl
Hey Tim! How are you liking your PEBL now after one winter? Did you ride it much? How's it doing on hills? How about an update! One thing I REALLY like about this bike is that is made using soy-hemp non-toxic materials! THAT really shows where the mindset of this designer is! Fantastic!
The ELF is made with recyclable trylon plastic. No toxicity to the owner and proper recycling also guarantees a green end to vehicle life. Most resins have to be ground up along with the fibers for landfill disposal. I wonder if the PEBL resin is recyclable by some method.
Update - now the PEBL has switched to fiberglass and weighs 230 pounds, a real problem.
I'm wondering about long distance travel on the highway rather than on town streets. Is it possible to maintain highway speeds and is the trike able to deal with high winds?
Inside backview mirror missing. When reverse..do you have the going back lights to let them know?
Does it have a solar panel to charge the bike?
This is a nice velomobile if it was fully loaded.
I've actually since this video have upgraded the body to a different material so it used to be made out of a hemp so a composite but now it's made out of a fiberglass composite there's also several other upgrades that I've made to it including a windshield wiper GPS tracking as well as vibration sensitive alarm systems and a few other bells and whistles
Solar is an option that raises the cost to almost $13,000. Solar is standard on the ELF. At 230 pounds the base PEBL is already past fully loaded, it is over loaded. They added too many car-like features.
Do you know if the company can ship to Canada
Yes they can ship to Canada what I did when I got mine I went down and picked it up but I know they can actually ship right into Canada so you wouldn’t have an issue
The website to purchase the bike does not have Canada as a shipping option
Hi Tim. As a fellow Winnipegger I'm really curious how you use this fascinating vehicle in our city i.e. where, for what, how often? For commuting? Shopping? Even in winter? Being wider than a bike, does it fit on all the Wpg bike lanes and paths? Where do you take the car instead because it's too far or too much traffic?
To be honest I don’t drive in the bike lanes I drive on the street in the same lanes that the cars driving it would fit on some of the bike lanes but any of the ones for example down Pembina Highway that have the polls I think they’re a little too narrow or to be honest I’d be probably whack in the polls with the mirrors at one point in time so I would just drive on the next available lane. In Winnipeg some of our bike lanes are very poorly designed again a Pembina Highway they have the bike lanes and then all of a sudden the bike lane goes up onto the sidewalk and then back down onto the road to me this is the worst design ever anyway I don’t use them I use the roads just like a car would I don’t drive in really cold temperatures once the temperature hits -10 I usually put the bike away because the batteries don’t come out very easily anyway they can come out but not as easily as I would like and after -10 the batteries don’t tend to fare very well in the cold
As far as where I drive everywhere I’ve taken my bike down Regent Avenue down portage Avenue in Pembina Bishop Grandon chief Pecos Trail everywhere I drive everywhere Henderson Highway, Main Street Pretty much every street I think the only street that I haven’t driven on is large. There’s no need for me to go on there. There are other roads that get me to the same place
Very interesting and informative walk though. Looking to possible purchase a velomobile myself. I am based in the prairies and was wondering if I could come take a look in person?
defroster for windshield in winter?
A 12 volt fan is enough.
What do you do about security. How do you keep it from being stolen
I use a u lock on the back wheel I cut all the power via keys I have a dedicated GPS tracking unit installed and hidden in the bike
I also have a motion sensitive alarm installed
Is there insurance?
Rider on house insurance
@@kennethtarlow Velosurance serves the US.
Out of at this, the ELF, & a few other options I have seen this is starting to look the best choice if I can afford it.
Mostly because I think about Michigan winters. Snow storms up here can get brutal & being able to have the option to get a closed cabin (to protect from snow) with heat & wipers so I can see seems like a big deal.
Bom dia! Onde posso consultar valores?
Onde vende como posso comprar uma moro no brasil
How are you! Happy New Year! How much will be cost exactly the one you have now! Thank you!
Does this better bike background already come together or and additional on the purchase? the 64 volt batteries can I use it 2 for bike help.? what is the maximum speed that I hit? have any add-ons that help increase speed? the exterio of and made of resin??
izaias - US federal law limits the speed under motor power to 20 mph to avoid licensing and insurance as a car. 48 volt lithium batteries are used, 64 volts would burn out everything. The body shell is made from hemp fibers and cured resin.
Nice!! Question, do you think it can be customer with a more sturdier doors (like the material of the bike) if I choose to get one?
You don't want more sturdy doors, this vehicle is already too heavy. Better off with no doors at all. Although it is tempting to compare this to a car it is not a car. The body is so light there is nothing to attach a sturdy door to. Anyone could just push on the door edge and get it to spring open.
Live in England but would love one...
All you need is pure carnauba wax for the windows. True with or without the extra coating. A wax job makes it fine without wipers and saves the weight and scratches from wipers.
Como proceder para importar para o Brasil
I'm in Edmonton Alberta. I was wondering if you had any trouble with local bylaws? Also, what is your plan for winter?
Ron Ceilin was not planning major winter rides
No problem with laws it's a bicycle with motor assist
Hi Tim very informative vids i was on for a used Elf in good condition @ a resonable price but i understand they have gone out of business. So this Pelb seems to be ringing my bell now maybe you could suggest some avenues to getting a good deal on one.
Thanks
The Organic Transit website says they are now in Phoenix, AZ. Have they reopened, perhaps under new ownership?
Would be nice if it had an air condition like the Zero Breeze 2 inside.
How is it on ice, particularly icy hills? Where did you order your special mirrors from? Thank you for your post and willingness to answer questions. We're in Edmonton; I especially appreciate a Cdn owner's viewpoint,
Beatrice Nearey hello so I have not really written it very much on Ice I have written it a bit in the winter here as you know when the peg is fairly flat so we don't have a lot of Hills like you would have in Edmonton
It does handle pretty good on the icy roads that I have driven on but again they've been flat I have noticed a little bit of side slippage as I make a corner and fairly good speed
For yourself you may want to consider getting yourself studded tires or at least a studded tire for the rear tire which is the drive Tire
all in all in Winnipeg I find that it handles quite nicely obviously now in the middle of winter I wouldn't be driving because the roads are just not conducive to it but in the very beginning of winter and I'm assuming at the very end of winter somewhere along the lines of the beginning of April I'm expecting to get on the road again
Pebl or trans organic ELF ..... Opinions?
Vman gman PEBL
And I will tell you why out of the box the pebl can take a passenger
Has reverse and cruise control is it completely sealed bottom and floor has a removable front panel to open up the floor under the pedals is a more eco-friendly design in. The material used is a hemp resin not fiberglass
It has suspension in the rear and it costs less
@@heidihellsten2347 No the ELF costs the same but the PEBL has no solar roof or warranty. The ELF one year full written warranty is worth $1000. The ELF two seat version is the same price and has seat belts for 2 kids or an adult passenger. The ELF has no need for reverse gear because they were wise enough to not close the floor. The
ELF has a huge front cargo shelf where the PEBL has none at all. You will be panting for more ventilation this summer but you won't be able to get it without removing windows. ELF weighs 160 pounds, PEBL weighs 230 pounds with the fiberglass body, the hemp body has been recalled and is now heavy fiberglass that ruins your hill climbing ability. PEBL violated the unwritten rule that these bikes need to weigh no more than 175 pounds with the 750 watt motor power limited by law.
But is there a spare tire in case the puncture proof tire is safe but the rim fails?
Rims don't fail. If you ruin a rim you call a tow truck
Gteat job.
How much miles for hours can be?
And the price ?
All electric bikes in the US are limited to 20 miles per hour, about 28 km/hr. This is not a dealer page. Go to better.bike/PEBL
@@popeyegordon There has recently been a change in my states (Washington State) electric bike laws as of July 2018 and Class III electric bikes with a motor assist or throttle speed of up to 28 MPH is now legal for anyone over the age of 16 years.
On the negative side the street legal power has been lowered in the state law from 1,000 watts to 750 watts.
By coincidence a neighbor sold me a used RadRover 750 watt electric bike for $350 during the same month and I changed the maximum speed on the control panel from 20 MPH to 28 MPH.
The RadRover was missing the 48 volt battery pack but I had a better one already 52 Volts at 17.5 AH or 910 watt-hrs which gave me a maximum range with pedaling of about 50 miles (I live in a very hilly area too).
@@m9078jk3 I was an avid ebike commuter in the north Seattle area for 10 years before retirement. what you describe is a surprise, I know for a fact that speeds over 20 mph are dangerous on all bike trails, even wide ones, because they have blind curves and mothers pushing kids in strollers, dog walkers and little kids on training wheel bikes. It is not as simple as you allude to, the most popular heavily used rail trails still have a 15 MPH ebike speed limit. I just checked. 15 is plenty, you get wherever you are going safely with no stops at that speed.
@@m9078jk3 "Class 3 may go as fast as 28 mph but require a helmet, riders age 16 or over and are NOT allowed on Class 1 Bike Trails, which are trails separated from motor vehicle traffic." You screw yourself out of safe bike trails for commuting when you use a class 3 and gain just a bit of speed on roads that are still much more dangerous with cars all around. Still, if you are one of the many commuters who can't take advantage of bike trails on their commutes, the law will help you get there and encourage a few less cars on the roads.
@@m9078jk3 Class 3 also requires a speedometer and pedelec, no thanks. Pedelec sucks. Also not allowed on sidewalks so over all class 3 is more dangerous to use.
Quanto custa uma dessa
Please say me about motor and speed
All electric bikes in the US are limited to 20 miles per hour, about 28 km/hr.
The legal limit is 32 km/h
I'm so jealous ❤
This company is based out of Amherst, Mass
I will love to have a test ride. How long does take for delivery? . I have being looking for videos and information about this bike for couple of months. This is the best informative video you have answer all my questions. I will be ordering the Pelb soon
If you have $10,000 to spend then this is a great product
Grate detailing Vedio thank you sir
Olá!que idioma vcs falam.sou do Brasil..nós fazemos perguntas e vcs não responde nada. É por descaso ou vc s não entendem o português .quanto custa essa maravilha para trazer para o Brasil pais da América do Sul
I want to get a pebl Bangladesh.
From what i see on youtube i would go with the peble over the elf i like the elf but better bike just seem so much better for daily transportation i wish they all cam with a 5 speed gears so it would drive in 3rd but steep hills you have low low tork and on streight and down you have crazy high end gear for flat speed
Ill bet heavy 3" tires hold up better but ill bet if you have smoth roads skinny thinner smaller tires will give you more speed and economy.but that is only benefit
The trunk lighting detail is one reason this vehicle will quickly rise in price to $10,000+ if they want to stay in business without working for free. Mark my words. Carpet liner and other details will force this to be made in Asia or to just go obsolete. I do want better.bike to succeed but the writing is on the wall. The average customer for these vehicles is barely getting by and this will be the largest purchase they have ever made, if they can swing it at all. A basic model, not the Cadillac of hybrid velos, will go the distance during the next decade. Beyond that we can talk about Lexus class vehicles.
Just heard back from my lender. I have a few things on my credit report to clean up and I'll be able to fix that in January. I will have my PEBL by next spring that's for sure!
@@jdrum3053 Rethink that. Curb weight is up to 230 pounds now with the fiberglass body.
@@popeyegordon That's a feature. My number one concern with the lighter velomobs is that any reasonably fit person could flip one over or wrestle it into the back of a truck.
@@moarsaur No the ELF was designed with a very wide front wheel base in the canted tadpole configuration the PEBL does not offer. Even 70 pounds would not make much difference in stability compared to driver weight and severity of a hard turn. I'm plugged in to the 600 member Facebook owner group where we hear about most every incident. Rollovers are extremely rare and no one in my group has heard of a single rollover where the driver did not admit he/she was horsing around recklessly and deserved the wipe out. You will be aware of a wheel leaving the ground and have time to reduce the severity of a turn. Then there was one rollover on a school property where an ELF owner had volunteered to show a class about the ELF and let a few try it out in the parking lot - some totally inexperienced kid rolled over that ELF, probably saw too many 'drift' movies. Obviously we all learned from that mistake and won't be letting school kids try out the ELF in any future demonstrations.
Funny you should say that considering as of June 29th Rob Cotter's vaunted Organic Transit you keep fanboying over just declared bankruptcy.
How do you protect it when you go in a shop or something. They can steal it
You lock it up like a normal bike
My bike has a bunch of special features in it I have a master cut off switch with a lock and the key so basically I can cut the power to the entire bike
I use a lock with an alarm on it as well I also have installed vibration sensitive alarm systems that are 120 decibels each
I've also installed a GPS tracking unit that can track you the bike North America wide that unit is hidden inside the bike somewhere
So I can track it anywhere at anytime
I'm also planning on purchasing a new lock called a skunk lock basically what that is is a lock standard u-lock but inside the u-lock is high pressure pepper spray so basically if anybody tries to cut the lock the pepper spray injects through the cut and sprays all over the person doing the cutting basically rendering them immobilized probably at that point in time needing medical attention
HI Tim. At what temperature can you comfortably ride the pebl?
Zackery Williams I have ridden it in about -5 degrees Celsius without any additional heaters or anything just wearing a thin jacket and I was still sweating and I had the doors closed but the windows partially opened
So if I was actually to close the windows and everything I'm sure it would be a lot warmer I could ride it even longer
Thanks, I am looking forward to receiving my Pebl.
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The factory recently switched to fiberglass body shells.
Yep I'm getting mine redone
@@timhellsten Ouch, I didn't realize it could get that bad. Lesson learned I guess. I like hemp for smoking. I'm buying high CBD content industrial hemp from an Oregon farm, completely legal.
@@timhellsten More bad news - the new body shell increases curb weight to 230 pounds. You will need that illegal cheater switch just to get around.
Muy bonitoooooo🍫
Hi, Tim, thank you so much for such a thorough video. I watched it during the time I was waiting for my bike to arrive, to educate myself on the features. I have a question. Where did you order the side mirrors from? My bike arrived with the basic ones, but I would like to upgrade. Thank you in advance.
Nice car but please process give in India this car
in the USA , the federal law related stickers are in only English. same as getting a federal drivers license ( CDL) . these trikes are nice concept rides but they are simply over priced. besides..why on earth have trunk and floor area lighting from the factory ? why raise the price on the unit by things that the end user could simply install, if they so desired ?
this is one of the bikes that i studied before finally making my own. my recumbent delta style trike cost me 400 bucks to make..another 270 to motorize with a 500 watt 48 volt kit( tradtitional SLA batteries) and then 60 dollars to enclose with a acrylic skin that is painted and therefor UV protected.
so aside from my research and design i have right at 850 dollars invested...can cruise on electric power at 20mph ( state limit before being classified as a motor vehicle) for 40 miles....
hell, my contraption even has a heat exchanger for the florida heat...and blue tooth speakers to play what ever i have going on my iphone...
point is, i have the sasme cargo options for gross weight..dont have passenger options , but have AC and stereo for 1/7 the cost of this machine.
plus, due to my enclosure technique, it looks more like a stealth bomber than like this one that looks like a soap bubble.
until; the designers at better bike get a real world grasp on a commuter , they will be lost
Can we see it? It looks like you know how to upload videos, it would be great to show us your budget friendly version
Wow
It would sell much better if it had a more industrial looking design.
My opinion:
A very nice vehicle, which spares the already badly battered environment and offers enough space for more than 2 persons.
Disadvantage: It does have doors, but they do not protect the vehicle from long-term finders and theft or wanton destruction. I would be afraid to leave it somewhere. Why did not you install any lockable doors ???
You are confused - a door of any kind has no place on a bike. We don't leave valuables in bikes. We remove the motor key. This is not a car so doors are not used in the same way as on cars. Wanton destruction? You live in the wrong place and need to move if that is an issue. What is a "long term finder"? A thief needs a flat bed tow truck with winch to steal a 230 pound bike.
Here I once found (only to show that there is another way) this video "Solar Powered E-Bike (Trike) Designed to Reduce City Traffic." It's built inside like this vehicle here, but has doors Now suppose I drive this vehicle with no lockable door into the city, I want to go shopping for clothes and water and then go out to a restaurate with a friend, so I want to have a safe place where I can For example, I can safely store my six-pack of water and my first-bought clothes and not carry things with me to the restaurant.@@popeyegordon
@@angeleyes3251 The PEBL has a locking rear hatch and battery compartment. The ELF has a locking rear trunk lid. Please keep an open mind which must include the fact that personal cars make it easier to over-consume as part of an unsustainable lifestyle. Also don't forget that delivery of merchandise and groceries is easier than ever and more options offered every day. Please don't buy bottled water. The containers are usually not properly recycled. US tap water is the best in the world on average and water filter options are many. Fill your reusable water bottles at home please.
@@angeleyes3251 The changes we need to make to live sustainably are minimal and not hardships. Even with all sustainable behaviors combined the US will still offer the best lifestyles which will actually improve even more as we stop stealing resources from future generations.
So don't leave anything of value in the bike at all it's pretty much like a convertible you never leave valuables in a convertible
I have since installed vibration sensitive alarms that are 120 decibels or more each as well as I use a u-lock that has a vibration sensitive alarm on it and I also have the bike GPS tracked so there's a 24/7 GPS tracking unit inside the bike integrated into the system
So if it goes missing I'll come collect it
I would love this bike...it is 100% perfect EXCEPT that it's weight limit is 250lbs....I'm nearly 400....I currently cannot, due to mental deterioration, drive, I live in an area with insects(A panic trigger for me which can sometimes be dangerous) and lots of rain...So currently my only option is to buy an Elf, and modify it myself to be a Pebl....9.9
The ELF has a 550 pound payload rating. It is also easier to get in and out of. I weigh 300. You will always need copious ventilation in this class of vehicle unless you plan to not pedal at all.
So Expensive
Anyone pls give me a peble
Great idea better than a electric bike an safer their overpriced its the way to go if you want to travel the country for cheap are they made for tall people and have leg room
..after the 4th "basically", I had to leave.
You say you *basically* had to leave?
7 month lead time. Rediculous.
A few used ELFs are for sale. One just listed in Florida. Organic Transit had and has similar lead times, these are small companies with no multi-million dollar bank loans to fund large scale operations.
on the website it says Nov/Dec keep in mind they have to build it.