CZ 457 Varmint MTR Range Results
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- First trip to range with 1lb trigger and new glass. Tested some higher end ammo for grouping. Pleased with the results.; 50 yards. Make sure your volume is turned up.
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totally agreed i am using 455 t hole as well as a 452 both have new spring and receiver bedded watch also your receiver screws torque that will also change your accuracy try sk rifle match this are the best in MY rifles i have several medals as proof .CZ are super guns and i recommend them to any new comer to the sport. the 457 will be my next one when i have shot mi barrel out.
I have a CZ 452 in 17HMR and it’s a laser beam.
Given the wide spread in some of the groups and the wind you mention, it seems like the groups would be much better on a quiet day. It's an impressive rifle for $680 when many competitors are more than $2,000. I'd like to see your results on a calm day after you've put 100 rounds through the barrel and cleaned it once then another 20 rounds. Also, warm up the barrel before filming with 5 shots (maybe you did that). It sure looks like it could be a great value - if you glass bed the receiver, that might make it a tack driver!
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds.
I thought mine would have shot better as well... but wood stocks just dont do well with a wide of spread temperature changes...testing with different torque settings did help... mine shoots best in the 30-35 in lbs setting...
Thanks for your observations. I will experiment with torque settings - just recently got a torque wrench. Thanks for watching.
Just ordered oryx Chassis.
40 in lbs gave dramatic improvement in accuracy in mine.
@@farleyjj1 have you done any accuracy testing in the chassis?
@@thegriff9425 Only using Geco Match. With the chassis, it shoots as good as it did with the wood stock, but not better so far. I’m a little disappointed. Not much data though. Not going to be able to shoot it much now with the weather of fall/winter
You and I look to be around the same age my friend, and have the same rifle! If you're anything like me, you have good days and not so good days trying to shoot decent groups... :)
Back in my youth, my forte' was shooting ground squirrels with my Ruger Mk I Target that I fixed up with a set of Micro target sights, a Jim Clark trigger and a complete action/trigger job. Now, I use rifles... A CZ MTR over a hood, bench, shooting sticks or improvised field rest. I have a CZ Royal and a CZ American in 17 HMR that also shoots real well, IF I'm having a good day and the aches and pains don't get the best of me.
Picking up a CZ Trainer today and will be seeing how it does. I left proving anything to anyone behind a long time ago, as I'm sure you have as well. I shoot for my own source of fun and keeping in shooting shape and nothing more these days. Just yesterday, I was reminded of the "Good days/Bad days" of my own age related shooting dilemma, when I couldn't get any of my rimfires to group well under near ideal conditions! I just thanked our Father in heaven for the beautiful day and saved the ammo for another time.
I'm going to have a look at adjusting my action screws a bit tighter as you have and see how it works out! Best Regards and Thank you for the video!
Thank you for your articulate expression of your worldview for shooting! I agree wholeheartedly. A bad day of shooting is better than a good day of most things, and every Day is a gift from the good Lord! Hope you enjoy your CZ Trainer.
I just purchased a Harrell Tuner for the MTR. It’ll be interesting to see what that does.
I also have the CZ 457 Precision Chassis. The one without the MTR chamber. I like the chassis and trigger, but I do not like the rear butt stock. It’s loose and noisy.
God bless you and yours, and thanks for watching the video.
@@farleyjj1 Thank you my friend, have a Blessed Day!
I should have noticed earlier, that Eley Target did well in your MTR! It also shoots pretty well in my MTR! Another ammo that does very well in these is the very expensive Eley Match. Josh over on "Pursuit of Accuracy" uses it in his CZ that he shoots in competition, his rifle wears a Lilja barrel and does extremely well! I haven't tried the Match ammo, at $21.00 per box of 50, I don't find that it fits in my world to well right now! :) For whatever reason however, I have real good results with Aguila super extra high velocity, 40 grain. If you find that, you might give it try if your shooting longer distances.
I found some 22lr ammo today that I haven't seen before! It's called "Top Shot". It appears to be made in Germany under the Sellier & bellot label. I'll try it in the MTR, Royal and Trainer and report back to you.
Best Regards
The MTR is designed for MATCH GRADE AMMO ONLY. The is reason you are have difficulty closing the bolt. The rims are thinner in match grade any other such as Standard Velocity will damage the bolt. That being said, try GECO .22 MATCH AMMO. It is inexpensive and holds a very tight group. You can get more expensive ammo, but for my money I will buy GECO .22 MATCH AMMO. BTW I have also converted other shooters at our range into believers. I have been shooting my MTR for about a year now. This is an excerpt from CZ official web site. Selected models in the .22 LR calibre, such as the CZ 457 MTR, have a Match cartridge chamber at the very edge of the CIP tolerance. Very precise production and low tolerances provide an excellent accuracy guarantee of 1 MOA depending on the ammunition used.
thanks for the feedback! I will try the Geco.
I bought a brick of Geco Match. My Anschutz Modell 54 sure likes it..
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds. I worked my way up from 20. Geco Match -- thanks. Ordered Oryx chassis too
Mine loves Federal Auto Match same hole accuracy
Bought a Savage B22 Precision MDT in 22LR-- hope to try it out soon.
How is it sir? I'm torn between the MTR and the B22 precision.
Kevin Scurlock I have the savage mdt chasis and I’m looking to trade it for the CZ. It’s not bad accuracy, but I’m looking for more
Some some really good groups
Yes, I’m optimistic about working more with this rifle. Amazing factory rifle. Thanks for watching!
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds. I worked my way up from 20.
I've just ordered the same rifle in Australia, would be keen to see vids with how you go out a bit further say 100-200 have also heard sk match pistol special runs well in these.
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds.
You should be able to get that rifle to shoot better than that. A little attention to the crown, torque settings on the action screws and grub screws. If you have a borescope, check the chamber for burrs and carbon ring. Maybe experiment with a pressure pad at different locations. My 457 Varmint will do .5 MOA at 50 yards with SK rifle match. Of course, your rifle may like different ammo. Lots of variables to work on.
Any recommendations for the torque setting? What are “grub“ screws? (Thanks for your interest.)
Steve, you realize that .5 MOA at 50 yards is .25 inches. All shots must essentially go in one hole! Impressive!
Grub screws hold the barrel into the receiver. They should be at about 30. The action screws hold the barrel and receiver to the stock. Try around 20-25. Check these torque settings as they have had major qc issues at the factory. Yes, I know exactly how large a group .5 MOA is at 50 yards. Center to center, it’s not really one hole, but they touch.i use the Ballistic-X app for measuring groups.
I wish I could do it consistently, but I’d be lying. Even if the rifle shoots lights out, I manage to contribute a certain amount of inaccuracy often. Plus, even really good ammo has some variability in velocity and aerodynamics.
@@lucabrasi5070 Did you shoot 5 shot groups? pretty much any modern 22 rifle will do .5moa with 5 shots at 50 with match ammo. With 22lr there is never a reason to shoot less than 10 shot groups. You can easily get .5moa groups with 5 shots at 100 as well. 22 is so cheap and will always have variables that 10 shot groups will always tell a better story. For example my tikka t1x with sk rifle match shot a group where 5 shots were .5moa but the whole 10 shot group was almost 3 moa at 100 meters. I always test my 22lr with 5x10 shot groups and then take the average as the rifle and ammo combo accuracy.
How's the finish on the barrel? The older blued models you could see tool marks on the barrels of some examples.
It appears to be fine to me. I have not noticed any tool marks. Generally, I think the gum is a beauty.
Being it has a “Match Chamber”, do you know what the head space dimensions are? Thanks
That’s the interesting style stock on that rifle
These groups at 50 were not impressive but dont be dishearted. I have a friend who shot 0.79moa with 10 shots at 300 meters with his 457 mtr. He sorted his ammo by weight and shot sk rifle match. So the rifle is definately capable. Of course you need luck (mostly environmental that there is actually 0 wind during the whole shot string) to be able to pull of such a good group.
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds. I worked my way up from 20.
@@farleyjj1 Show us in another video champ
The improvement
Try Norma Match. I have the same gun and have tried most of what you showed in your video. I’m shooting 2” groups at 100 yards with the Norma. Better than the expensive ammo.
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds. I worked my way up from 20.
Try using SK Pistol match special you will need to clean the crap off the bullet head and weight the ammo! Im a bench rest small bore shooter, Cheers mate
Little to no sound. Would have liked to hear this one
Do you think it would out shoot the Australian Lithgow crossover ? I'm looking some thing I can shoot off the bench and be competitive.
I am not familiar with The Australian Lithgow Crossover. Perhaps someone else is. Two of my buddies bought the CZ 457 Varmint MTR and could not get them to shoot! Tried lots of different ammo. Mine likes Geco Match when I do my part. Thanks for watching.
From most videos I've watched, most 457 owners fit a Picatinny rail and then mount their rings and scope. It looks you've fitted rings directly on the 11 dovetail, is there any issue in doing that, I want to do the same with my 457 when it arrives, but am not sure if and why a Picatinny is needed?
I don’t know why people use a rail. Not aware of any issue mounting the rings directly as I did.
@@farleyjj1 Thanks for your reply. Are you using high mounts for your 50mm scope?
@@PaulyDownUnder yes, I am.
U need a pic rail if you want to shoot at far targets and be able to dial turrets accurately. Elevation travel in scope will limit you to likely 200 yd or so. For 22lr matches you need to get to 300 yd. only possible with 20-30 Moa pic rail installed.
My 457 MTR does way better than this at 50yds with SK, SKU Match and Lapua almost the same hole or .25MOA easily, Cheers.
Thanks. Will try them again.
Nicole does it shoot any hunting ammo well? I’m struggling with mine and hollow points!
very thru even with mi older model 455
Where is the thread on the barrel?
No thread on mine. I’m putting a tuner on mine.
Know Jesus know peace. Well said my friend.
I truly love it! Maranatha....even so, Lord come quickly🙏!
Amen! Maranatha.......even so Lord Jesus, come quickly🙏!
Very nice grouping with match ammo. Could not hear video at all. Did you say the yardage? And what was yardage.
50 yards, thanks for letting me know about the audio. I’ve been having trouble with it. Thanks for watching.
Others have reported that the audio could have been louder, but they could hear it. Perhaps your device could have been turned up. (But I'm not happy with my microphone system. Working on that.)
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds. I worked my way up from 20.
@@farleyjj1all my czs are set at 40 inch lbs that is where they shoot best .
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I want her in my safe!
Yes, anxious for more range time. Thanks for watching.!
Do they make with threaded barrel of this model?
Not sure. cz-usa.com/product/cz-457-varmint-mtr/
farleyjj1 Thanks!
what height rings did you use?
High, I believe. Don’t know,the height in inches...sorry
Hey try putting a barrel turner on it!
I have tuners on two other rifles, but I plan to use this one in factory class which does not allow tuners. Thanks for watching. And thanks for the suggestion.
@@farleyjj1 Cool, are you weighting the bullets if not u should!
@@TheWheels1965 Yes, when I dial in to an ammo it likes, I weigh cartridges for Competition.
Dramatic improvement in accuracy when I use the torque wrench to tighten to 40 inch pounds. I worked my way up from 20.
lowering your trigger weight to target level on a hunting rifle is just plain stupid. Just my 2 cents.
More shooters probably use this rifle in the factory classification of Benchrest Shooting than any other. MTR stands for Match Target Rifle. So you think CZ created/designed a match chamber for a rifle to be used strictly in hunting? I’m afraid you’re bit misinformed about this rifle’s intended use. Thanks for watching.
@@farleyjj1 Ok their varmint rifle, I didn't realize you were going for gold with that scope-rifle combination. I guess I need to do my homework. But I got the subtle aggression down. Thanks for the reply about what others are doing.
Why are you shooting minimag through it wtf! You may have ruined the lands...🤦
I hadn’t considered CZ rifles before. But this thing is changing my mind. It looks nasty 🙃
I've never owned a custom-build 22 rifle, but I've owned a Kimber 82G, a Winchester 52D, several classic Anschutz 54 Match & SuperMatch, Walthers, and BSA Martinis, and I like this CZ as well if not more. Quite a factory gun -- but it needs the YoDave spring kit to lighten the trigger.
farleyjj1 definitely the YoDave spring.
Does that grip work for lefty’s?
Not well. Look at the stock from the left side behind the receiver in the video.
No… that’s why I got the 457 standard varmint in 22mag
Nice Chootin!
any trigger under 3 pounds and you cant even get a tight grip on the gun before it fires?!?!?!?!?’
Is this a question? A comment? What is your point? In any case, thanks for watching.
If you need a heavy trigger to get a tight grip on the rifle you're doing trigger control all wrong.
try eley tenex
I have a brick, but it’s not something that I can afford to use regularly. I need to find a decent, less expensive ammo.
@@farleyjj1 that's right.... I only use tenex for competition only . Eley subs r good 4 u & cz barrel loves Lapua also. I'm using eley club (sometimes Lapua) for hunting since 1996 on my CZ452 & got excellent accuracy. stey well bro ❤️
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Interesting...some ditty about Jesus...then a war ditty...then a reference to a pagan being...my goodness, can't decide what to believe?
Unintended conclusions on your part. Thanks for watching.
@@farleyjj1 Conclusion? Why no...an observation on the power of myths.
You better decide what to believe! “For is appointed unto man once to die, and after that, the judgment.“ 😊
Not impressed, if I paid that much for a box store weapon and shot those groups, like I said, not impressed. It’s a good conversation piece at best. I own a CZ 457 Varmint in 22 magnum, 20” heavy bull, paid 480.00 for it, now it impressed me. I do shoot F-class a lot, not this year due to COVID, but those groups looked like a shot gun pattern to me. Not impressed at all.
So, you’re not impressed? Lol!
Mr. Duffield, did you not see the CCI standard group? What about the one after it. Any 22lr rifle has to be fed the ammo that works best. I am not impressed with your comment.
Mark R
Mr. Duffield likely feels it’s easier to be critical than to put up videos demonstrating his own skill and highly capable rifles. I noted on his TH-cam site that his play lists feature bread and pizza. No videos, of course. LOL!
Mark R Are you saying those are good groups, they’re over an inch at 50 yards. That rifle should easily be capable of 0.3 - 0.5’s at 50 with an ammo it likes. Now that said it comes down to skill of the shooter, wind conditions, etc as well beyond just the rifles and ammo capabilities. I’m not being critical of the guy shooting, he’s having fun with it and put it up there for everyone to see. But strictly from a mechanical accuracy perspective those groups aren’t impressive for benchrest shooting.
Seth Rich Just reporting, don’t shoot the messenger. Two of my buddies sold theirs because they never did shoot well. Must’ve been made on a Monday. Mine seems to like Geco Match.