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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
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Rubric:
50% Calling
25% Veto/Gameplan (coach)
20% InGame Ability (above replacement)
5% Captain (leadership)
Recorded April 1, 2024 (not an April Fool's Joke)
0:00:00 - Intro and rubric
0:04:30 - Nafany
0:06:30 - Karrigan
0:08:26 - Hooxi
0:12:02 - Mutiris
0:13:49 - Art and Fallen
0:17:52 - Chopper
0:20:18 - Ztr
0:22:00 - AleksiB
0:24:10 - Snax
0:27:38 - Nekiz
0:28:48 - Device
0:29:38 - Sense
0:30:52 - Blitz
0:32:44 - Exit
0:34:53 - Boombl4
0:40:00 - Alex
0:41:24 - Kyxsan
0:43:43 - Vini
0:46:26 - Biguzera
0:49:22 - Dav1g
0:51:22 - Glaive
0:55:21 - Patti
0:56:52 - JT
1:02:17 - Snappi
1:06:31 - Siuhy
1:12:58 - Seized
1:13:17 - Jame
1:20:59 - Apex
1:27:28 - Majer
1:31:55 - Cadian
1:37:54 - Review and clarifications
#cs2 - เกม
![2024 IGL Tierlist [JULY UPDATE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_PTOB6IA1Gc/mqdefault.jpg)
![2024 IGL Tierlist [JULY UPDATE]](/img/tr.png)
If anyone has the strength to write timestamps, I'll copy paste into the description for everyone else's viewing pleasure. Thanks for viewing!
0:00 - Intro and rubric
4:30 - Nafany
6:30 - Karrigan
8:26 - Hooxi
12:02 - Mutiris
13:49 - Art and Fallen
17:52 - Chopper
20:18 - Ztr
22:00 - AleksiB
24:10 - Snax
27:38 - Nekiz
28:48 - Device
29:38 - Sense
30:52 - Blitz
32:44 - Exit
34:53 - Boombl4
40:00 - Alex
41:24 - Kyxsan
43:43 - Vini
46:26 - Biguzera
49:22 - DaviG
51:22 - Glaive
55:21 - Patti
56:52 - JT
1:02:17 - Snappi
1:06:31 - Siuhy
1:12:58 - Seized
1:13:17 - Jame
1:20:59 - Apex
1:27:28 - Majer
1:31:55 - Cadian
1:37:54 - Review and clarifications
0:00 - methodology
4:10 - naphony
6:31 - karrigan
8:26 - HooXi
12:11 - MUTiRiS
13:49 - arT
15:59 - FalleN
17:51 - chopper
20:18 - ztr
21:59 - Aleksib
24:11 - Snax
27:38 - NEKIZ
28:48 - device
29:38 - sense
30:52 - bLitz
32:44 - exit
34:53 - Boombl4
40:00 - alex
40:59 - kyxsan
43:43 - VINI
46:26 - biguzera
49:23 - dav1g
51:22 - gla1ve
55:22 - Patti
56:52 - JT
1:02:17 - Snappi
1:06:31 - siuhy
1:12:48 - seized
1:13:12 - Lack1 (kind of)
1:13:18- Jame
1:21:01 - apEX
1:27:28 - MAJ3R
1:31:56 - cadiaN
1:37:54 - final thoughts
thank you for the content king 🙏
I’ll do it for $5, oh shoot, already done.
More of these lists please dear Maui!
@@nosslraKThanks so much. used this
Aleksib is a tactical genius. He is best known for his signature tactic "going B, but then going A". He also has a second little known tactic of "going B, but going B". What an absolute legend. Top 3 IGL for sure.
I think it's safe to say device is the greatest igl to ever live
would be kinda funny if they suddenly start dominating (i mean last few matches they looked good enough)
maybe the stabbi duo played shit on purpuose to get rid of baitf? :D
HE DID@@bergbilch
2 hrs content just to shit on Naphony. Maui is THE guy
Should have been 2hrs shitting on Nafunny
"We're rating them on current form not past performance" *immediately calls back to mouseports 2019 to glaze karrigan after 1-15 in major*
Kassad won’t even be able to watch this video without having an aneurism 😂
Context?
I was so hyped then you talked about this on htpm, but this is way longer than i could have asked for !❤❤❤ long videos are great maui ty
This is a cut down vid for yt.. U r in for a treat if u check out the twitch VOD.. 😉
I watched parts of this live on steam but it’s nice to see it on TH-cam, much more accessible. Looking forward to the AWP tier list too!
the veto argument is so strange with hooxi they only just lost Anubis and Ancient to the eventual major winners
I feel like pundits are ignoring that A. G2 hadn't beaten Navi in cs2 yet, a veto mixup seemed justifiable
+
B. Navi slaughtered Faze on inferno. It's entirely possible that they saw something we didn't
They barely lost on their second best map. Imagine if they picked their best map instead?
@@cd2194no one seems to understand this simple concept.
I’m not going to play Kevin De Bruyne against Liverpool because I have the second best midfielder available. I’ll just leave the best CM in the league on the bench because I might beat them with my second best player.
Appreciate the content Maui
HOOXI A TIER
Hooximaxing
no way hooxi is making nikos rifle miss
Gigamaxxing
I think analysts are too harsh on S-tier teams. You can’t have 8 teams in the top 5, and yet if Faze/Vitality/G2 doesn’t win basically every tournament, they are failing.
Hooxi has problems but he is doing a decent job. B tier at least.
@@philamonhemstreet8632 Decent doesn't cut it especially for a team like G2, hence why it feels like the team is less than the sum of its parts.
watched this live on stream, just dropping that flex here for youtube exclusive enjoyers
I'm watching this live right now xD
Thanks for doing this
Can’t catch streams but love to listen to the LFN show on my breaks at work. If you stream content like this on your stream often then I’d definitely watch them on TH-cam
chopper has stepped up since then
bLitz is so underrated. For me bLitz now on top of A+, i'm not even kidding lmao. ApEX should be in bottom of A(or above the biguzera)
I knew he wouldn't snub my boy godleksib from the S tier
Really like these longer videos and breakdowns. Now add a kingT or thorin in the mix and we really cooking
the next one has launders, Trav, and Youm3
@@Mauisnake nice looking forward to it!
agreed except for chopper guy is my goat love u maui keep goin bro!
„You don’t win a major by accident…“
„iM is not that guy…“
Hooxi definitely deserves to be higher than c, his fragging has improved and he's been solid overall, not his fault that his riflers haven't been performing, he's also been getting pretty impactful entries on t-sides. Also, if veto is so important, how is aleksi in S when blade does all of it ? JL, wonderful and bit having lifegames in major series doesn't show that he is S tier as an igl
do you actually think aleksi’s in game calling is lower than S? not sure how that could even be argued. part of being the in game leader is getting the best out of your players. aleksi is doing that. hooxi is not.
@@Lad98477 I don't think he should get credit for individuals popping off, same for all IGLs. Imagine this major run without a couple JL insane solo clutches, would you call him an S tier IGL then ? Don't get me wrong, I think he's good, but to put him next to karrigan after 1 major run is undeserved imo
@@SoftPotatoable average hooxi fanboy
@@SoftPotatoable He already was a great IGL. This major just showed people who don’t have eyes.
@@SoftPotatoable Imagine the major run without a sub 0.9 rated rifler. Can't just cherry pick individuals popping off and removing that factor.
Funniest part of this stream was when that dude on HLTV made a thread trashing the rationale behind the IGL tierlist, but his objections were so specific that he had to be a stream viewer who was hatewatching or something lmao.
finally blitz getting his flowers he truly deserve
Why did cadiaN got cut during the vod? xD
As a col fan i must admit that your assessment of JT is painfully accurate... I sometimes feel as though CoLs shortcomings though arent a direct fault of his calling and more as u said, the inconsistency of Grim, Floppy, and Hallzerk. He calls an excellent game and really empowers elige in a donk-like fashion, but when the shots aren't hitting from your other riflers there's just much calling is gonna fix. BlameF would actually be a someone to consider since hes not calling anymore, though im sure their RMR status gets hazy then...
Where tabsen ?
BIG are not top 30
Washed
Biguzera in Pain with skullz before it got torn apart you could tell he was straight money. I don’t know how everyone forgot about him so quickly that him being straight money now is a surprise
TBH, When he made this tier list, Dev1ce played 0 matches as an IGL, so it made no sense to put him in this list xd, but seeing he put him into F tier without seeing how he performs as an IGL is just hilarious xd
gotta love that for how you put it about Jame
and boomыч
you say he put smile on your face?
you did same for us for this two goats
and yeah we got robbed on vp faze would love to see too
alex in the same tier as cadian is just straight up unnacceptable. nip has been pure trash in 2024 and alex has been the reason why, he has shit calls and even worse individual stats. man cant aim and cant kill. putting him in anything other than f tier is just a lie
Nip has been trash for years everyone in Nip is trash
I mean liquid has also been pure trash in 2024 outside of literally the past 2 days and they are a superteam who should be at least qualifying, let alone making playoffs to everything.
BIG BOOM
ZTR being in B is such a massive crime it’s insane. No higher than bottom C
I think Maui is glazing by putting Art under Fallen, in case you don’t remember Furia was losing way worse and they shifted back to Art being IGL and then they started winning more. On top of that Fallen brought Chelo to the team with him so now it’s a constant 4v5 for Furia.
Also it’s kind of crazy that Nafany is in F tier when he is leading BB into a really good place right now and Cloud9 was performing decently before they made it NaVi 2.0
By signing Electronic, Perfecto, and Boombl4.
So basically Fallen F tier IGL (but currently looking like an A tier AWPer), Nafany and Art are D tier.
Nafany didnt qualify to the Major, has failed at every qualifier since Sydney
@@Mauisnake Snax also didn’t qualify for the major and hasn’t qualified for any event GL wasn’t directly invited to most recently failing the ESL challenger jonkoping CQ. Yet he’s D tier and Nafany is F tier.
April's fool was 10 days ago...
noone tell him that c9 is gone just few days after he said they are good team rn
Let's go Sprout AZR🔥🔥
Where is baitF?
tom cruise f tier aged well
I feel like with their ESL pro league run so far, dev1ce deserves a re-evaluation haha
Monster Energy Tier list?
As of Chengdu Device actually looks promising, never taught i would say that but here we go..
Where is Tabsen? Padian?
A "recent form" list and you put a semi-finalist who almost beat the eventual winners as C
RIP
AleksiB's issue on G2 was having Xtqzz as coach. Look at how Vitality is under Xtqzz vs how they were under Zonic. Heck, Xtqzz created the current TSM roster that went nowhere. Xtqzz holds back every team he coaches.
Why the hell is ztr B tier 😭😭😭
Putting full tier list in the thumbnail is pretty based I gotta admit
Rubik probably saved you from getting dunked on by hltv and reddit. I am curious to see how Dev1ce responds to adversity and playoff pressure but so far he isn't really mentally affected by the change
damn, we need cleaner air for zywoo stock to go up.
W vid
Aleksib is him
No tabsen? 😢
Awper tier list next, saw some downright fucking atrocious ones on twitter recently
Candian?
WHERE IS TABSEN
MAJ3R and hooxi below jame is wild, jame just didn't look good as an IGL at the major and even his AWPing was questionable
So you are telling me if jame doesn't disconnect and then HooXi can't whiff 10 bullets on an idle foe to get the first kill to try to retake B...just then you would rate Snappi higher than HooXi!? Common man, of course Snappi is higher.
Did not see Device in your list, who is an undefeated IGL so far in 2024! So this list cant be valid and taken serious in any way and I will not watch the video!
j/k looking forward to enjoy your video later today Maui, and listening to your points :)
If grim was ready for a push when boosting Elige New Box agasint Vitality, then complexity would have beat Vitality 2-0. Making JT at least an A or A+ caller.
biguzera should be S not even kidding. His fragging is great and he does miracles with the players he has. They were 2-2 at legends stage almost got to playoffs
astralis just beat vp do we swap jame and dev1ce now?
Nah this is at chengdu (not a prestige lan or a major), and dev1ce arguably has better pieces
rip cadian
siuhy also gets the special "most zoomer haircut of any cs pro" award.
Aleksi god tier! ❤️
Calling Liquid a superteam with NAF and Yekindar is crazy. Cadian and twistz need better support.
Do rifler tier bro
How dumb is your chat tho 😂 mfs saying cadian is a worse igl than art
u kinda fucked up with aurora teams captain, they have Norwi as a captain not Lack1-
nvm
Karrigan S??? Lmao you must be tripping
I like Aleksib since Katowice 2019 but the fact that he shares a tier with Karrigan and that he is above Chooper is smoked
lack1 should have been in F for anyone wondering
Karrigan had 1 kill in the 3rdd map of the grand finals and he's the best? A tier? Absolutely. S tier? maybe, but he's definitely not the best
He’s made the finals of every cs2 tier 1 event, won 4, but yeah since he dropped 1 kill on a map he’s not s tier, y’all are just so dumb man 😂
Device rn making his way to S
Blitz chess rank is 20 in mongolia so he have high iq to be good in game leader.
ALEKSIBEAST
Hate to see cloud 9 not make the playoffs of IEM rn😂
chopper should be S
I'm here after the season is over, and apex should be lower, he has a huge amount of firepower, but still failed to win a single trophy in 2024
"you don't win a major by an accident" keep it in ur mind people
yea ur right, maybe if they played spirit or vitality it wouldve been the same right?
@@DarknessRL I mean Faze beat those teams and Lost to NAVi. We all know matchups can be complicated and some teams can win on a day. But Navi winning isn't luck. They showed up when necessary
@@Dajoeman8 I think most of the pro players wouldve been very exhausted if they played spirit and vitality. Thats the only reason it happened.
@@DarknessRL navi beated faze who won vs vitality and spirit, aren't they the best team after this logic?
@@cargea3640 I dont think you read the last reply i posted.
Karigan is not anymore even s tier, as a coach maybe, but i don care how good you are at calling, you need to frag.
boombl4 in S tier is the biggest L. B tier max.
Hooxi not atleast at the top end of B is criminal
bLitz better be at least A tier
2nd in B, so close enough, 10th overall
Torshit instead broky ? Yeah.. maybe, in another life.
Sorry but this is a pretty L vid imo
bro, aleksibot winning 1 big tournament in his life = karrigan ? please wake the fuck up
imagine making IGL tier list without S class tabsen
guten tag bot tuber
HooXi has the best player in the world right now. The calling isnt great, the individual still... Bad. You can never ever put Snappi below HooXi, just compare the rosters and hence not put that much focus on results imo.
Bro wanted to hate on naphany so he made a 2h video of all igls to justify it.
lol just needed 1 more day to rank device
I think people genuinely need stop harping on hooxi vetoing. Have watched a lot vlogs from many teams and you do see quite frequently how IGL isn’t always the one to make the veto. At this point it feels like people just genuinely can’t accept that they are experiencing cognitive dissonance, especially YNK with hooxi and RL with jks. Just let go
This might be shocking for you but those vlogs aren't everything thse pro teams do. They can actually discuss and make decisions about the veto off-camera.
How art has been at furia this long is crazy, has the worst playstyle and is a bad caller, kick asap
mutiris is not the igl, roman is
where sinnopsy
Only talking about relevant players
Dev1ce igl idk how that work but it works lol
If blitz igl in Faze easy S tier
Cadian pre-Chengdu should have been the single worst rated player in this list. Liquid are on paper better than Furia and they still got worse results.
cadian D nice troll
hooxi not in F tier is insane work
lol nice knowledge
@@anasrizwan720 hooxi fanboys like you are pathethic. you could have chose to simp anyone, and you chose him? :D
Thats a pretty bad list in my opinion, Aleksib won nothing but the major and directly S-Tier.
This is recent form, and also watch navi play. It is literally IGL diff every time.
And they have the shittiest players out of anyone at that level
no skin sponser? hypocrite smh